S08.E13: Crying Shame

[noveltylibrary]

22 hours ago, nexxie said:

Nice to see Eileen - I’d hang with her!

Once again I'm in the minority lol I couldn't stand her and was glad to see her go.  

21 hours ago, ghoulina said:

Erika was MEAN tonight. And I normally like Erika. I don't even have so much of an issue with her immediate reaction at dinner. I don't like to be called a liar either. That was basically what Teddi said, even if not intended. I do believe Erika didn't remember. She was just trying to play pacemaker that night and probably said a lot of things. But, no, it was her THs that really put me off. Calling Teddi a crybaby? Not nice. 

I don't think Erika was mean (for once!).  I didn't blame her this time.  And I normally can't stand her! 

I called Teddi a crybaby right before she did.

[ShawnaLanne]

21 hours ago, enchantingmonkey said:

Aren't Erika's closest friends a bunch of paid sycophants?  And she's giving Dorit advice on how she should manage her friendships?  Good grief.  

Oh, Teddi.  When Erika barked across the table at her like a rabid dog, I think I felt the room spinning around me, too.  I loved that the Show reminded us of Erika chewing on Eileen last season.  But Eileen was able to help Erika with her "career" so I believe it when Erika says she won't ever apologize to Teddi.  

Has anyone gone head-to-head with Erika and walked away the victor?  I think Dorit tried last season but it seems like Erika kept her title.  

Kyle's backyard was so charming in a way that I almost didn't believe she was in Los Angeles.  

Teddi needs to stop stirring the pot,  to bring that up 3 months later is bullshit. And I like Teddi. I want Dorit gone,  she's obnoxious and sad at the same time. Erica is no fun in a girlfriend group because every woman she meets is either competition or below her notice. Beyond anything else,  why have her on for that reason alone?

[ShawnaLanne]

20 hours ago, GreenlinetoHarlem said:

 

I think it goes back to the beach house. IMO Teddie was really insensitive saying repeatedly how "weird" it was that Erika didn't stay overnight when she was so sick with cramps and the ladies were up drinking and twerking all night. Erika felt embarrassed and she's a grudge holder who hates to be embarrassed. 

That was insensitive of Teddie who I think is not a very thoughtful person. She's very sensitive when it comes to her own feelings, not so much with other people's. Her sense of righteousness blinds her. And she's a drip and a dud. I just can't stand her! The more I see, the less I want to see. This week she stirs up this old shit with Rinna for no reason and runs crying away from the fallout. What fun. She just does not belong on this show.

Nope.  She hated her in Vegas too. I think it's jealousy over her "relative" youth,  hot(ish) husband,  dad who cares and is a musical legend and just who Erica is, she'll attack any other woman she thinks she can. 

[MatildaMoody]

I find it hilarious that the woman with an alter-ego is incensed by the use of the word "pretend" to the point where even when there was an apology for the word and it's implications, it still wasn't enough. I mean, everything that Erika has done since her first appearance on the show has been about her pretending to be Erika Jayne. 

[AttackTurtle]

2 hours ago, Higgins said:

Not to mention her step mother was a very real super model.

And her father has been in a fairly long relationship with a legit movie star (although it’s been some time since she’s been in the spotlight...Meg Ryan is one of my all time favorites).

I can’t remember who posted on this issue, but I’m certainly not cheering on Erika’s father for leaving her behind, but that does not mean that I can’t be disgusted that Erika left her own child behind.  I simply can’t fathom the idea of leaving a young child behind.  

 

The flack that some of these ladies give Teddi for being an accountability coach is offensive.  And while it’s not something I could spend my money on, seeing how much Teddi transformed her own body makes me a believer that she might be pretty good at it.

Edited March 15, 2018 by AttackTurtle

[sol y luna]

9 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

She Has NEVER said she did it on her own are we watching the same show? she talks about how much Tom has helped her ALL THE TIME and without him she wouldn't be where she is

Typical response from a gold-digging, trailer trash bitch.

8 hours ago, gundysgirl said:

Good for a father for bailing on his toddler? Yikes! 

Smart man. He probably knew what a gold digging b she became.

[gingerella]

I loved Eileen, and I like Teddi. Not love, but definitely she's the only one I dont have any negative feelings about. Both Eileen and Teddi are, as others have said before upthread, normal people. The other women on this show? Not so normal.

LVP: Self involved narcisist, but somewhat bearable due to her demeanor most epis.

Lisa R: I mean, she lies on the regular, but if she stays out of the shit stirring pot, she's okay. For all her gloating about keeping her girls real and unspoiled, they are the worst children on the show, with the possible exception of Portia.

Camille: What is there left to say about her? She acted like a righteous queen bitch when she was married to Kelsey, now that she's knocked down a few pegs she's okay, but give her more fame and I'm sure the old Cam will show up again.

Vyle Kyle: A nearly 50 year old Mean Girl who has as many issues as her alkie sister, just not as obvious. That stupid hair twirling bullshit she does when she dances, or that moronic split she insists on doing practically every season, combined with her jealousy of LVP's other friendships, and the delight she shows when others are in the hot seat, all make for a very foul human being. She is an utter bitch.

Dorit: Mentally deranged narcisist who thinks she is above others because she married a foul looking sugar daddy. To her, money equals being better than others. Truth is, she appears to be a shit person, a shit mother who only flits around her kids when the cameras are around, and the sort of wife who bleeds a man's wallet dry if given her own cards. She is neither a business woman, nor is she a "designer", we saw that charade when we met the actual designer yesterday, ha!

Erika: A very sad, damaged woman who clearly is in dire need of deep psychotherapy but instead of working on her issues, she uses her husband's money to buy herself the illusion of having a career, which is nothing more than a rich wife hobby, complete with sycophantic hangers on, all funded by her husband, for reasons unbeknownst to me. No amount of sexual favors can mask her ugly fucking personality and crass lack of manners. ETA: Tom probably puts up with her crazy ass because she's like a cartoon porn wife, but what is really there? She cant talk about important, intellectual things with him. She appears to have no hobbies other than buying expensive brand label shit, and has the worst fashion taste of anyone I've ever seen on a RH franchise, and yet, she continues to think her shit dont stink.

Edited March 15, 2018 by gingerella

[sol y luna]

6 hours ago, jaync said:

Crybaby Doll Hooker.

Poor Erica - she looks awful - LOVE it!!!

[Normades]

I wonder if ErICKa is befriending Dorit because she knows that LVP wants to stay on friendly terms with her for the sake of her relationship with PK. 

[UsernameFatigue]

1 hour ago, Higgins said:

Not to mention her step mother was a very real super model.

Are you referring to Christie Brinkley? She and John Mellencamp were never married, they dated for about a year. I think he is back with his previous girlfriend before Brinkley, Meg Ryan.  A pretty successful actress in her own right. 

When Erika first came on the show I didn't mind her - she was reserved but just seemed to be taking her time to open up. Last year she seemed happier, which I put down to her son living with her. This year she is an out and out bitch. I also think she dislikes Teddi because Teddi has what she always wanted - a loving and supportive father. Plus an age appropriate husband who appears to be a true partner as a hubby and father to their kids. I also think Erika is insecure because Teddi's father has been an hugely successful singer for decades, and shines a spotlight on just what a joke Erika Jane is. Have we even seen her perform this year?

I almost choked when Erika said that everyone should be more independent. Erika is the least independent HW on this show, as she is totally dependent on Tom for her lifestyle, and for her vanity project, Erika Jane. I have given Erika passes in previous years, but not this year. She is an insecure bully, and I have little time for her. 

Speaking of no time, Dorito continues to take no responsibility for her actions. I think this has happened on pretty much every episode this season. I totally understand why Teddi did what she did both with Rinna and Dorito. However she should know by now that there is no such thing as a private conversation with Dorito, as making anything and everything public is Dorito's attempt to stay on the show. 

[howiveaddict]

Any one catch Dorit asking her son, " How was karate yesterday?"  Had she not seen him since before he went to karate class the day before or was that so he could show off for the camera.  Every time she sees her kids, on the show, she acts like a grandma who hasn't seen her grandkids in  a month or year.  Not like someone involved in their daily care.

 

Just read Teddi's blog. She is my new idol. Agree with everything she said.  Also, I am a lot like her in that I cry easy and just want to get away from people when I do. Someone comforting me just makes me cry more.  Even so, I am glad that LVP went and comforted her in the car.   

Edited March 15, 2018 by howiveaddict

[dosodog]

1 hour ago, AttackTurtle said:

And her father has been in a fairly long relationship with a legit movie star (although it’s been some time since she’s been in the spotlight...Meg Ryan is one of my all time favorites).

I can’t remember who posted on this issue, but I’m certainly not cheering on Erika’s father for leaving her behind, but that does not mean that I can’t be disgusted that Erika left her own child behind.  I simply can’t fathom the idea of leaving a young child behind.  

 

The flack that some of these ladies give Teddi for being an accountability coach is offensive.  And while it’s not something I could spend my money on, seeing how much Teddi transformed her own body makes me a believer that she might be pretty good at it.

 

I'm not sure where you where going with "flack", but it makes me ponder 2 scenerio right off the bat.

1.  The flack is teasing about a job that isn't mainstream at the moment.  I have a better understanding of what she does from the clip on another episode, but I still don't fully understand everything she does.  And personally, for the moment, I find Accountability Coach kind of side eyeish.  I see the positive, I see con artist potential (not from Teddi--she's almost too enthusiastic).

2.  The flack is because no one in this group hired Teddi to be their Accountability Coach. And she lives her job.  Which is great for her, to constantly be accountable, but not everyone wants to always be accountable.  I know, I know.  But sometimes I want a Mexican coke in a glass bottle, even though it'  too much sugar and I don't want a lecture from the Teddi's of the world. We are always accountable for what we do and say.  However, we're not always going to agree on what another person thinks we ought to be accountable for.

Which is not to say Teddi hasn't been correct, but she kind of demands everyone to be like her and view things like her.  She has high standards for herself and wants everyone to have those same standards.

She's almost Eileen.  Once she starts giving Rinner a pass for behavior she jumps on other people about, she's totally Eileen. 

Howiveaddict!  Thanks for the memory jog!  Jagger and his karate moves were too cute to be menacing!  I adore him from afar.

Next week....I'm not ready for a pet death. I don't want to see this.  Ken is totally going to make me sob. 

Edited March 15, 2018 by dosodog
Hi Yah! That's my sound effect when I do a karate move

[Juniebaby]

1 hour ago, howiveaddict said:

I am a lot like her in that I cry easy and just want to get away from people when I do. Someone comforting me just makes me cry more.  Even so, I am glad that LVP went and comforted her in the car.   

OMG I could have written this, I am exactly the same way and just because I cry easy doesn’t mean I’m not going to let you have it with both barrels.  Erika calling Teddy a cry baby, really, didn’t Erika just cry because her likeness is in a stupid Kim K video game.  No self awareness.

[RHJunkie]

42 minutes ago, dosodog said:

I'm not sure where you where going with "flack", but it makes me ponder 2 scenerio right off the bat.

1.  The flack is teasing about a job that isn't mainstream at the moment.  I have a better understanding of what she does from the clip on another episode, but I still don't fully understand everything she does.  And personally, for the moment, I find Accountability Coach kind of side eyeish.  I see the positive, I see con artist potential (not from Teddi--she's almost too enthusiastic).

2.  The flack is because no one in this group hired Teddi to be their Accountability Coach. And she lives her job.  Which is great for her, to constantly be accountable, but not everyone wants to always be accountable.  I know, I know.  But sometimes I want a Mexican coke in a glass bottle, even though it'  too much sugar and I don't want a lecture from the Teddi's of the world. We are always accountable for what we do and say.  However, we're not always going to agree on what another person thinks we ought to be accountable for.

Which is not to say Teddi hasn't been correct, but she kind of demands everyone to be like her and view things like her.  She has high standards for herself and wants everyone to have those same standards.

She's almost Eileen.  Once she starts giving Rinner a pass for behavior she jumps on other people about, she's totally Eileen. 

Howiveaddict!  Thanks for the memory jog!  Jagger and his karate moves were too cute to be menacing!  I adore him from afar.

Next week....I'm not ready for a pet death. I don't want to see this.  Ken is totally going to make me sob. 

What Teddi does isn't a new concept but referring to the position as an Accountability Coach is something I've never heard before. I suspect that Teddi only coaches specific to healthy lifestyle which is what many personal fitness coaches do (more often with virtual coaches) and the level of interaction can vary. Some coaches lay out meal plans and workout schedules and outline when and how to report results but the client is completely accountable for following the plan. Others do similar to Teddi where they request pictures of each meal to keep clients accountable for their eating habits or sometimes they request daily food logs that track everything that you put in your mouth each day.  On the other spectrum is a life coach who provides more personal insights to help motivate clients and keep them accountable to their words, actions and goals - but from all that Teddi has described, I don't think she does this. 

I also think it doesn't help Teddi's case that she's inserting her 'accountability' as a third party yet not directing accountability to the appropriate party. If her client had a bad week with her eating and put on some ounces instead of lose weight, does she speak to her client or does she call up her husband to discuss the matter? She likely wouldn't call the husband because he can't be accountable for his wife's goals the same way only the person who said something can be accountable for what was said so why has she never reached out to that person first? She should have addressed Dorit's dinner comments with Dorit and maybe suggest her speaking to LVP, she shouldn't have addressed it with Kyle. She should have addressed the comments about Rinna to Dorit (at the time it was said) and suggest that Dorit take ownership of what she said and talk to Rinna and let her know so that the two can genuinely start off with a clean slate. Teddi's pattern is now seemingly falling into the category of gossiping rather than making people accountable for what they're saying. Again, I don't think she's trying to be mean-spirited but I do think that the RH environment lends to a lot of talking about the one person who isn't at the dinner table with you. 

[Thumper]

Thanks for that recap and summation, @ParadoxLost!

I'll confess I lost track of all the arguments too.

I would like to see more of Kyle's house.  I liked what I saw.

[AttackTurtle]

When I reference “flack”. I think that some of the ladies are condescending and assholes in general about her job.   I’m looking at Dorit & Erika in particular here.   These are woman that pay for all sorts of services from psychics, “glam squads”, medical quacks (Yolanda) so I just question why they have to turn their noses up at Teddi’s line of work.  I looked into Teddie’s services and it appears you pay an upfront fee of $500 and then $250 a month,  you check in with her about your nutrition and fitness.  She claims most people stay on it for a couple of months.   To be honest I paid a lot more for a personal trainer and probably would’ve benefitted more from Teddi’s services.

 

and yes I get that the ladies feel that the “accountability” factor is influencing Teddi’s shit stirring...it probably is.  What’s Erika and Dorit’s excuse for their own shit stirring?

Edited March 15, 2018 by AttackTurtle

[Chellichik]

2 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

Are you referring to Christie Brinkley? She and John Mellencamp were never married, they dated for about a year. I think he is back with his previous girlfriend before Brinkley, Meg Ryan.  A pretty successful actress in her own right. 

 

Probably referring to Elaine Irwin who was married to John Mellencamp for 19 years.

[itsadryheat]

Would love to read an Erika blog, Erika.

[UsernameFatigue]

1 hour ago, Chellichik said:

Probably referring to Elaine Irwin who was married to John Mellencamp for 19 years.

Thanks - I knew he had a few ex wives but can't say I had ever heard of any of them. 

[Higgins]

8 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

IAre you referring to Christie Brinkley? She and John Mellencamp were never married, they dated for about a year. I think he is back with his previous girlfriend before Brinkley, Meg Ryan.  A pretty successful actress in her own right. 

When Erika first came on the show I didn't mind her - she was reserved but just seemed to be taking her time to open up. Last year she seemed happier, which I put down to her son living with her. This year she is an out and out bitch. I also think she dislikes Teddi because Teddi has what she always wanted - a loving and supportive father. Plus an age appropriate husband who appears to be a true partner as a hubby and father to their kids. I also think Erika is insecure because Teddi's father has been an hugely successful singer for decades, and shines a spotlight on just what a joke Erika Jane is. Have we even seen her perform this year?

I almost choked when Erika said that everyone should be more independent. Erika is the least independent HW on this show, as she is totally dependent on Tom for her lifestyle, and for her vanity project, Erika Jane. I have given Erika passes in previous years, but not this year. She is an insecure bully, and I have little time for her. 

Speaking of no time, Dorito continues to take no responsibility for her actions. I think this has happened on pretty much every episode this season. I totally understand why Teddi did what she did both with Rinna and Dorito. However she should know by now that there is no such thing as a private conversation with Dorito, as making anything and everything public is Dorito's attempt to stay on the show. 

No but he did date her as well. I speaking about Elaine Irwin.

Edited March 15, 2018 by Higgins

[zoeysmom]

5 hours ago, dosodog said:

I'm not sure where you where going with "flack", but it makes me ponder 2 scenerio right off the bat.

1.  The flack is teasing about a job that isn't mainstream at the moment.  I have a better understanding of what she does from the clip on another episode, but I still don't fully understand everything she does.  And personally, for the moment, I find Accountability Coach kind of side eyeish.  I see the positive, I see con artist potential (not from Teddi--she's almost too enthusiastic).

2.  The flack is because no one in this group hired Teddi to be their Accountability Coach. And she lives her job.  Which is great for her, to constantly be accountable, but not everyone wants to always be accountable.  I know, I know.  But sometimes I want a Mexican coke in a glass bottle, even though it'  too much sugar and I don't want a lecture from the Teddi's of the world. We are always accountable for what we do and say.  However, we're not always going to agree on what another person thinks we ought to be accountable for.

Which is not to say Teddi hasn't been correct, but she kind of demands everyone to be like her and view things like her.  She has high standards for herself and wants everyone to have those same standards.

She's almost Eileen.  Once she starts giving Rinner a pass for behavior she jumps on other people about, she's totally Eileen. 

Howiveaddict!  Thanks for the memory jog!  Jagger and his karate moves were too cute to be menacing!  I adore him from afar.

Next week....I'm not ready for a pet death. I don't want to see this.  Ken is totally going to make me sob. 

Accountability coach is someone who helps another attain their goals and stay on track.  Teddi has some made up idea of what the original concept is.  https://www.trishblackwell.com/accountability-coaching/  Teddi seems to be pretty heavy on the monitoring portion and light on the encouragement.   From what production has shown us it is more like Teddi believes she is always right and superior.  To me, it often comes off as Teddi is so defensive she fails to listen to someone and then pulls her self proclaimed superiority and rides roughshod over the speaker.  

My observation about the Rinna spill is Teddi was around Rinna and Dorit after Las Vegas and as an accountability coach should have seen there was no ill will between them.  Progress is important to an accountability coach.  After Las Vegas, Rinna complained about Dorit to Erika when they were in Japan.  That may have been why Erika challenged Teddi initially.  Erika knew both parties still had their moments of catty comments.  Of course Teddi didn't decide to spill until Rinna said she was hanging out with Dorit.

Teddi who believes she apologized to Erika, after calling out her veracity, gave a typical RH apology.  "I didn't realize that comment would have upset you to that point.  I apologize for that."   To which Erika replied, "you basically called me a liar," Teddi interjects, "no," Erika continues, "yeah," Teddi interrupts again with, "no", Erika continues with, "like all of a sudden I am changing my story for convenience."  Erika, " I told you I don't remember period."  As I said a typical RH non apology where somehow Miss Accountability admits to only being clueless as to why Erika would be upset over being called a liar, by a different name.  I think the Accountability Coach needs an Awareness Coach.  

If Teddi were truly aware should would sense there is a huge issue between LVP and Rinna.  Maybe her divine wisdom could heal their wounds.

[kitten59]

Just now, Higgins said:

No but he did date her as well. I speaking about Elaine Irwin.

Her mother is someone named Vicki Granucci. Elaine Irwin was a legit top model (never really understood why), but she's not really old enough to have a child Teddi's Age.

[Higgins]

Elaine Irwin is not her mother but, her step mother.

[imjagain]

18 hours ago, itsadryheat said:

I've had an (ex) friend exactly like this. Never know when Satan will come out of her mouth. And unless you are a Satan as well, (Satan's don't hang around other Satan's because they are so thin skinned) there is no need to go to battle because it is a waste of your energy and they will vile you to the ground. Best way to handle a Satan in your life is to block their number. 

This! 

Not today Devil! .....**walk away.**

 

I was reading Erika’s twitter and I keep seeing people ask why Erika is trying so hard with Dorit?  I'm wondering the same. 

Edited March 15, 2018 by imjagain

[Snappy]

Team "Anyone BUT Dorit."

[imjagain]

7 hours ago, itsadryheat said:

Would love to read an Erika blog, Erika.

 

No one writes a blog. I hate that. I'm always interested how they feel about what they say and do months later. 

Actually Teddi does. So thank you Teddi.

[BluBrd47]

I am completely team Teddi this episode but I do agree with the comments saying that her constantly bringing her career into social events does come off as a little out of line. I’m in school to be an RN but that doesn’t mean I chide and lecture people who smoke a cigarette at social events. All the ladies do it and it gets annoying- Erika and her “costumes,” Kyle constantly talking about her store and her show, Dorit and her fashionista ways, Mauricio making sure to wear “The Agency” T’s on camera. The Lisa’s do seem to know where to draw the line between business and pleasure- I don’t see them going on much about QVC or their restaurants at social functions.

[Happy Camper]

On her twitter, Erika is offering up a signed copy of her book. Looks like no one is interested, in fact alot of people are saying that they were going to buy her book until they saw the most recent show which changed their minds.

Wow. Bad timing, Erika.  You just massacred your own book.

Looks like the book release has turned into a not very pretty mess.

Mr. Girardi is likely not pleased.

I'm not a Teddi fan but she must be reading Erika's twitter page and eating up popcorn seeing everyone hate on Erika and come to Teddi's defense.

Edited March 15, 2018 by Happy Camper

[blueiris]

10 hours ago, gingerella said:

I loved Eileen, and I like Teddi. Not love, but definitely she's the only one I dont have any negative feelings about. Both Eileen and Teddi are, as others have said before upthread, normal people. The other women on this show? Not so normal.

LVP: Self involved narcisist, but somewhat bearable due to her demeanor most epis.

Lisa R: I mean, she lies on the regular, but if she stays out of the shit stirring pot, she's okay. For all her gloating about keeping her girls real and unspoiled, they are the worst children on the show, with the possible exception of Portia.

Camille: What is there left to say about her? She acted like a righteous queen bitch when she was married to Kelsey, now that she's knocked down a few pegs she's okay, but give her more fame and I'm sure the old Cam will show up again.

Vyle Kyle: A nearly 50 year old Mean Girl who has as many issues as her alkie sister, just not as obvious. That stupid hair twirling bullshit she does when she dances, or that moronic split she insists on doing practically every season, combined with her jealousy of LVP's other friendships, and the delight she shows when others are in the hot seat, all make for a very foul human being. She is an utter bitch.

Dorit: Mentally deranged narcisist who thinks she is above others because she married a foul looking sugar daddy. To her, money equals being better than others. Truth is, she appears to be a shit person, a shit mother who only flits around her kids when the cameras are around, and the sort of wife who bleeds a man's wallet dry if given her own cards. She is neither a business woman, nor is she a "designer", we saw that charade when we met the actual designer yesterday, ha!

Erika: A very sad, damaged woman who clearly is in dire need of deep psychotherapy but instead of working on her issues, she uses her husband's money to buy herself the illusion of having a career, which is nothing more than a rich wife hobby, complete with sycophantic hangers on, all funded by her husband, for reasons unbeknownst to me. No amount of sexual favors can mask her ugly fucking personality and crass lack of manners. ETA: Tom probably puts up with her crazy ass because she's like a cartoon porn wife, but what is really there? She cant talk about important, intellectual things with him. She appears to have no hobbies other than buying expensive brand label shit, and has the worst fashion taste of anyone I've ever seen on a RH franchise, and yet, she continues to think her shit dont stink.

You have these witches down perfectly!  The worst for me are Gerbil chewing Kyle and Erika when she's a raving freaking bitch! She goes from neutral to Satan spewing demon in 2 seconds! 

Maybe she's discovered marrying an old wallet only gets you so far in the happiness dept. The only worse thing about this show is to see Kim! She is beyond horrible and despicable.     

[Josette]

18 hours ago, islandgal140 said:

The only thing I didn't love was the black and white checkerboard tiles at the entrance but I hate that just in general and in every circumstance. I find that aesthetic too jarring and focus pulling. Don't get me wrong I love a patterned floor but something about that black and white is just tired and pedestrian. YMMV!

I think that floor was put in after a renovation (not by Kyle and Mauricio).   Unless I'm mistaken, it used to be a wooden floor as seen in this picture.

[Sharonana]

Man Erika is getting roasted on Twitter. Doesn't bode well for book sales. Yikes!!!

Edited March 15, 2018 by Sharonana
Should have inserted who I was talking about

[janie2002]

10 hours ago, dosodog said:

I'm not sure where you where going with "flack", but it makes me ponder 2 scenerio right off the bat.

1.  The flack is teasing about a job that isn't mainstream at the moment.  I have a better understanding of what she does from the clip on another episode, but I still don't fully understand everything she does.  And personally, for the moment, I find Accountability Coach kind of side eyeish.  I see the positive, I see con artist potential (not from Teddi--she's almost too enthusiastic).

2.  The flack is because no one in this group hired Teddi to be their Accountability Coach. And she lives her job.  Which is great for her, to constantly be accountable, but not everyone wants to always be accountable.  I know, I know.  But sometimes I want a Mexican coke in a glass bottle, even though it'  too much sugar and I don't want a lecture from the Teddi's of the world. We are always accountable for what we do and say.  However, we're not always going to agree on what another person thinks we ought to be accountable for.

Which is not to say Teddi hasn't been correct, but she kind of demands everyone to be like her and view things like her.  She has high standards for herself and wants everyone to have those same standards.

She's almost Eileen.  Once she starts giving Rinner a pass for behavior she jumps on other people about, she's totally Eileen. 

Howiveaddict!  Thanks for the memory jog!  Jagger and his karate moves were too cute to be menacing!  I adore him from afar.

Next week....I'm not ready for a pet death. I don't want to see this.  Ken is totally going to make me sob. 

I don't see accountability coach anymore ridiculous than swimwear fashion designer or gay club performer. They are all semi vanity project/hobbies. Yet they all want to be taken seriously because they are not just "trophy wives", if they have a "project" they can feel like they didn't just luck out in the lifestyle they  have.

[Jel]

There's really nothing anyone has done this season to warrant a roasting. 

[sol y luna]

1 hour ago, Sharonana said:

Man Erika is getting roasted on Twitter. Doesn't bode well for book sales. Yikes!!!

GOOD!!!!!! LOVE IT!!!!

[prettybird]

Erika has got to be freaking out that this episode exploded in her face the same week her book came out. Like others have said, she being dragged across the coals on Twitter. Although some people are surprised with her behavior this episode, I’ve noticed (and mentioned it here) Erika does not seem happy this season. It seems every episode, she is pissy and sullen. I wonder if there isn’t something going on that we are not privy to. Rumor has it that she lives in a bungalow in Hollywood and hasn’t lived with Tom for a while. 

[janie2002]

22 minutes ago, prettybird said:

Erika has got to be freaking out that this episode exploded in her face the same week her book came out. Like others have said, she being dragged across the coals on Twitter. Although some people are surprised with her behavior this episode, I’ve noticed (and mentioned it here) Erika does not seem happy this season. It seems every episode, she is pissy and sullen. I wonder if there isn’t something going on that we are not privy to. Rumor has it that she lives in a bungalow in Hollywood and hasn’t lived with Tom for a while. 

I felt she has looked unhappy all along unless its about giving her attention. She seems like a sad person under all the layers of designers goods and makeup.  Does she ever just wear some jeans and a tshirt that wasn't hundreds of dollars.  She is going to be so effing lost if Tom dies and doesn't leave her enough for her lifestyle.  

[nexxie]

11 hours ago, Juniebaby said:

OMG I could have written this, I am exactly the same way and just because I cry easy doesn’t mean I’m not going to let you have it with both barrels.  Erika calling Teddy a cry baby, really, didn’t Erika just cry because her likeness is in a stupid Kim K video game.  No self awareness.

It’s okay to cry when it’s all about Erika finally getting everything she’s wanted - but it’s so babyish to cry when a bunch of bitches try to rip you to shreds. There’s a big difference! ;)

Edited March 15, 2018 by nexxie

[officediva]

On 3/13/2018 at 10:19 PM, HunterHunted said:

Yes, I wonder if she's told this to Tom, his accountant, or Mikey.

I also wonder if Tom has ever experienced one of her rages. I'm thinking perhaps not.

[janie2002]

1 hour ago, prettybird said:

Erika has got to be freaking out that this episode exploded in her face the same week her book came out. Like others have said, she being dragged across the coals on Twitter. Although some people are surprised with her behavior this episode, I’ve noticed (and mentioned it here) Erika does not seem happy this season. It seems every episode, she is pissy and sullen. I wonder if there isn’t something going on that we are not privy to. Rumor has it that she lives in a bungalow in Hollywood and hasn’t lived with Tom for a while. 

Her glam team is probably making overtime catering to her needs right now. telling her NO girl , you were in the right this is all Teddies fault!! 

If her book sales tank because of this episode I totally expect her to come to the reunion with guns a blazing for teddi. She doesn't have the self awareness to realize this was hr over reaction and instead will blame it all on Teddi, and her queens will agree with her.

[nexxie]

Erika might be surprised that showing her ass doesn’t always pay.

[CatMomma]

I really don't care if Teddi implied Erika was lying.  IMO, Erika was lying, but even if she really couldn't recall saying what she said, so the fuck what?

Erika has been making snide comments toward Teddi from the jump.  She has never shown any sign that she is interested in getting to know her, let alone like her. Teddi has taken Erika's passive aggressive bullshit in stride.  Apparently, she finally had enough. The moment she retaliated, Erika eviscerated her.

Erika didn't like being called out, so in order to redirect the conversation, she turned it into an attack on Teddi. Hey, it worked. Nobody questioned Erika after that. So, slow fucking clap for Erika. She's "real", yo.

Edited March 15, 2018 by CatMomma

[Cupcake04]

34 minutes ago, CatMomma said:

I really don't care if Teddi implied Erika was lying.  IMO, Erika was lying, but even if she really couldn't recall saying what she said, so the fuck what?

Erika has been making snide comments toward Teddi from the jump.  She has never shown any sign that she is interested in getting to know her, let alone like her. Teddi has taken Erika's passive aggressive bullshit in stride.  Apparently, she finally had enough. The moment she retaliated, Erika eviscerated her.

Erika didn't like being called out, so in order to redirect the conversation, she turned it into an attack on Teddi. Hey, it worked. Nobody questioned Erika after that. So, slow fucking clap for Erika. She's "real", yo.

THIS.  ALL of it.  Amen.  Erika is worse than all of the worst HW put together.  Phony, fake, nasty.  She hasn't had a genuine moment with any of the HW on any of the seasons.  I doubt she even has a genuine bone in her body.  She has not shown anyone Erika, we have only seen Erika Jayne, who is an awful person.  She was even awful on DWTS.  The only reason why she smoothed things over with Eileen after Hong Kong is because she was getting her a part on Y&R.  That was last season, but how many times has she brought it up this season...even asking for another appearance.  That is ALL that matters to Erika, and if you are a means to an end for her, then she is your "friend."  And her going demonic on Teddi about calling her a "liar" (which you ARE, btw) is a case of "me thinks you doth protesteth too much."  She said it, and she knows she said it.  Her "maybe I did, maybe I didn't" was nothing but BS and she knows Teddi knows that which is why she flipped out.  If it were me, I would've laughed in her face so Teddi really is a much better person than me.

[zoeysmom]

This is Erika doing devastated at viewer response to her shutting Teddi down and Twitter backlash:  http://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/cast/erika-girardi

Meanwhile People gives Erika an exclusive and published parts of her book excerpts. 

http://people.com/tv/rhobh-erika-girardi-painful-past-wealthy-coma/

Was anyone all that interested to buy her book to begin with?   Maybe I am just frugal but most of the juicy stuff is usually picked up and summarized by the tabloid media.   

[lunastartron]

On rewatch, I noticed that Teddi was very specific with respect to correcting any language that she thought mischaracterized her own statements ("I didn't say you were bashing; I said that would hurt my feelings") but was much looser vis-a-vis quoting others ("you said it would have hurt your feelings, too" is at least as disparate from "I would have been pissed" as  "bashing" is from "would have hurt my feelings"). 

As for Erika's ostensible longstanding  antipathy toward Teddi, I recall her rolling her eyes in Vegas one time at Teddi and saying "or not" kind of snidely. After that, I'm not sure why Teddi would expect any desire from Erika to get to know her after she shrugged "yeah, I thought it was weird" to a guest in her home. 

[MatildaMoody]

21 minutes ago, lunastartron said:

After that, I'm not sure why Teddi would expect any desire from Erika to get to know her after she shrugged "yeah, I thought it was weird" to a guest in her home.

I guess I don't understand how Teddi saying she thought Erika's departure with no notice was weird is some huge slight or insult. It's a statement of her opinion. She thought it was weird that Erika didn't say anything about leaving until she was having her assistant buzzed through the gate to pick her up. Big deal. That's not an insult. That's just Teddi wondering why Erika didn't say anything about leaving. And it is weird that Erika never said anything about changing her mind until she was on her way out the door. It's not like Teddi didn't suggest the hotel to all of her guests if that would make them more comfortable. It's not a condemnation. It's not even asking for an explanation. It's just stating how she felt about the departure. 

[CatMomma]

38 minutes ago, lunastartron said:

On rewatch, I noticed that Teddi was very specific with respect to correcting any language that she thought mischaracterized her own statements ("I didn't say you were bashing; I said that would hurt my feelings") but was much looser vis-a-vis quoting others ("you said it would have hurt your feelings, too" is at least as disparate from "I would have been pissed" as  "bashing" is from "would have hurt my feelings"). 

As for Erika's ostensible longstanding  antipathy toward Teddi, I recall her rolling her eyes in Vegas one time at Teddi and saying "or not" kind of snidely. After that, I'm not sure why Teddi would expect any desire from Erika to get to know her after she shrugged "yeah, I thought it was weird" to a guest in her home. 

Can't remember the exact words, so going to summarize.

Teddi: Talking about her father after being asked about her father. The nerve.

Erika: I never knew my father. On and on about how her father ignored her.

Teddi and Kyle: It was weird. Kyle actually said more than Teddi.

Erika: Teddi, did you call it weird, even though you admitted it before? Kyle, you're good.

Teddi and LVP: We have grown close.

Erika: Over horses (rolls eyes).

That was just...wtf? 

Tell ya what. Point out when Erika seemed warm or even accepting of Teddi. I can think of one time, but then she denied actually being supportive when called on it.

Edited March 15, 2018 by CatMomma

[janie2002]

15 minutes ago, CatMomma said:

Can't remember the exact words, so going to summarize.

Teddi: Talking about her father after being asked about her father. The nerve.

Erika: I never knew my father. On and on about how her father ignored her.

Teddi and Kyle: It was weird. Kyle actually said more than Teddi.

Erika: Teddi, did you call it weird, even though you admitted it before? Kyle, you're good.

Teddi and LVP: We have grown close.

Erika: Over horses (rolls eyes).

That was just...wtf? 

Tell ya what. Point out when Erika seemed warm or even accepting of Teddi. I can think of one time, but then she denied actually being supportive when called on it.

Over horses? eyeroll that is so stupid animals, psh it's not like bonding over patting the puss. Patting your puss is how real relationships are made, duh.

[MatildaMoody]

I'm still waiting for Erika to follow through on her threat of crucifying Dorit for not laughing off the ball gag gift. 

[TV Diva Queen]

re Kyle's homes.  I remember her buying the house she just moved out of.  She said something like "its always been my favorite house in Beverly Hills, so when it came on the market I just had to get it".  I do not however remember her first house.  

This house that she lives in now I remember seeing something on Facebook, that it isn't in BH, granted, I get that its still an $8M home, but leaving BH for like the Valley, is that even done?  (pearls are clutched)   I remember reading and not caring but I think her current home was Smokey Robinson's house....it was some famous Motown singers house.  I don't care enough to google it....hope that's OK.  

[Jel]

1 hour ago, MatildaMoody said:

I guess I don't understand how Teddi saying she thought Erika's departure with no notice was weird is some huge slight or insult. It's a statement of her opinion. She thought it was weird that Erika didn't say anything about leaving until she was having her assistant buzzed through the gate to pick her up. Big deal. That's not an insult. That's just Teddi wondering why Erika didn't say anything about leaving. And it is weird that Erika never said anything about changing her mind until she was on her way out the door. It's not like Teddi didn't suggest the hotel to all of her guests if that would make them more comfortable. It's not a condemnation. It's not even asking for an explanation. It's just stating how she felt about the departure. 

Even if you think it's weird, though, couldn't you have found a better way to say that? The truth is good, but I am all for sugar coating it a little bit so it's not embarrassing. Teddi says in her blog this week that she wasn't raised to be confrontational (using Erika's anger at essentially being called a liar as an example). But I think saying, "yeah, I thought it was weird", while not said in anger, is confrontational.  Maybe Erika was raised to not tell people their behavior is weird. 

I'd have been uncomfortable if I were in Erika's shoes. Teddi's absolutely entitled to think it was weird, but was she entitled to say so, right then, in front of the group? At the very least, even if she was entitled to, she should not be surprised that Erika would have an opinion about it, and may not appreciate her bluntness. I'd like to remind Teddi of one of her philosophies right here: if you don't want to get called out for saying stupid shit, don't say stupid shit.  For me, saying a guest's behavior (in front of a bunch of other people, when she was not feeling well, and clearly looked uncomfortable) would be the perfect situation to apply that advice.