S05.E09: One K at a Time

[3girlsforus]

I don’t know. I am not to the point yet where I think Whitney wants to make a change but can’t for whatever reason (fear, the show, her message, etc). I just don’t see any sign that she wants to be different. Lots of people don’t lose weight when they should, me included until recently, but I didn’t even once think I didn’t need to.  I wanted to be thinner. It just took a while for me to face what I had to do. Whitney doesn’t even seem to have made the decision that she even wants to change. 

[Kid]

On 2/28/2018 at 2:07 PM, the-grey-lady said:

I hope Whitney watches this episode at some point, and she finally realizes that none of what she is enduring is fabulous. She was panting and sobbing at the idea of WALKING five miles. She actually ADMITTED she had never, in her life, walked five miles at one time. Not even when she was an elite athlete in high school? Never even during the height of her "dance career"? And she doesn't think that's rather SAD? 

And is there a reason why she has absolutely no concern for the discomfort she causes her friends and family? Buddy so clearly did NOT want to discuss the Heather situation, and she just kept plowing on, seemingly oblivious to how he actually felt. She KNEW that none of her loved ones would want to rub cream into her ass, so she lured them to her room under false pretenses, and then completely ignored the fact that Todd looked close to vomiting. How can she have no understanding whatsoever of other people's feelings? Her lack of self-awareness is astounding.

Actually, I think she is quite aware of other people’s discomfort.  She gets a perverse pleasure in watching them squirm.

The awareness she lacks, in my opinion, is of herself.  She is a braying, gluttonous, loud-mouthed, 33-year-old toddler.

[crazycatlady58]

5 hours ago, monagatuna said:

I agree with you. I'm a distance runner, and I naturally carry extra fat in my thighs (as well as having large quads from running), and inner thigh chafing happens a lot with runners (also, nipples, inner arms, lower back, anywhere there's a clothing seam, etc). So Bodyglide is one of my best friends. THAT could charitably be called chub rub, although most of us just call it chafing. While I don't doubt she gets chub rub, you typically don't get it if you're wearing long, fitted leggings like she was in the "8K." Leggings are one solution to thigh chafing, so you're right--what she's got are folds that get irritated due to friction, sweat, bacteria that gets trapped, and dead skin. I'd be surprised if she doesn't get sores in her folds a la My 600 Lb Lifers.

Well I guess  she feels that she has no maggots  so all is good . 

[OnceSane]

Personal anecdotes belong in the Small Talk thread.  Please take the conversation there and keep this thread to what happened in the episode.  Thanks.

[Elizzikra]

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I don’t know. I am not to the point yet where I think Whitney wants to make a change but can’t for whatever reason (fear, the show, her message, etc). I just don’t see any sign that she wants to be different. Lots of people don’t lose weight when they should, me included until recently, but I didn’t even once think I didn’t need to.  I wanted to be thinner. It just took a while for me to face what I had to do. Whitney doesn’t even seem to have made the decision that she even wants to change. 

I think she wants to be different but doesn't want to change.

I think she wants to be the person she thinks she is and touts herself as being - someone who is "healthy" and strong and can do whatever she wants to do, including running a 5/8K, dancing, surfing,  walking, grocery shopping without splitting her pants, etc. She has to know that she can't do these things, at a minimum without incredible physical discomfort, if she can do them at all. She manages to ignore, somehow, that she can't attend to aspects of her own hygiene. But she doesn't want to change. She doesn't want to do anything different than what she is doing. She eats what, when and how much she wants. She exercises (or not) when and how she wants. 

She wants the impossible - and what I think most people want but realize is impossible - to be fit and healthy and strong - without any constraints on her eating or exercise. If I could fit into a size four and run marathons and eat a french fries with every meal, I'd do it. Until she realizes these two of these things are mutually exclusive with the third, she will continue to deteriorate. 

[Dot]

TLC, for some inexplicable reason, included the chub rub segment as 1 of its 2 teasers on its website for this episode. I saw it once, couldn't believe what I saw & watched again. Then I awaited the comments in the forum.

I notice that none of you have mentioned Twit's usual sexual innuendo. In the TH -- which was filmed months after the episode --just after she says, "So I texted everyone: can anyone come by the room?" she smirks & wiggles her eyebrows. Becuz, of course, she knows by TH time that a MALE will be the one tasked with touching her inner thighs.

Watch it again on TLC.com & you'll see what I mean.

[Elizzikra]

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I notice that none of you have mentioned Twit's usual sexual innuendo. In the TH -- which was filmed months after the episode --just after she says, "So I texted everyone: can anyone come by the room?" she smirks & wiggles her eyebrows. Becuz, of course, she knows by TH time that a MALE will be the one tasked with touching her inner thighs.

What is TH time?

I remember the smirk and wiggle of which you speak. I thought she was being all crafty about tricking someone into rubbing the chub rub by only asking if someone could come by, and not revealing what exactly it was that she needed.  She knew that no one would voluntarily swing by her room to perform that chore. I'm sure that is why Donna left the room early.

[Maricopa]

2 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

What is TH time?

Talking heads interview

[MyBigFatFakeLife]

Todd gagging at Whitney might’ve been a little too much, but I get he must be so fed up to be his “dance partner/caretaker” (we all know “home caretaker” is Donna). He’s constantly mentioning how limited she is compared to him dancewise. I feel like Todd is the more aggressive, in your face version of Tal.

Whitney and Todd’s friendship confuses me. Are they friends or enemies? Does he love her or hate her? I wonder, again, why Whitney does this to herself, to have her “friend” gag and be repulsed by her body and chub rub, while she’s waiting for him to rub her in all fours. And I thought the 8k was the most humiliating part of the episode. Why, Whitney, why?

I like Todd but I feel he has a greyish area type of friendship with Whitney, like you can tell he’s not into the friendship but he loves the attention from the tv show. Or all of this is fake and they really love each other once the cameras are gone. He doesn’t even live in NC. Who knows . Same with Buddy, he doesn’t seem that into her friendship. Sometimes I feel like Whitney needed some “friends/cast” for her upcoming show and these are the ones that showed up. $$$$

 

ETA: The way he passes her during the 8k, that was pretty funny, and Hunter was like “Uh, where did he come from?”. I loved his “I knew I was going to be the fastest by far” attitude. Also, I’ve noticed how he’s tagged as Whitney’s dance partner instead of Whitney’s friend, like everyone else ?

Edited March 2, 2018 by MyBigFatFakeLife

[RabbiBeth]

I  am a few days behind but watched the episode tonight on DVR.  It was everything you all said and more.  The drama, the histrionics, the carrying on during that race.  I was beside myself.  All she had to do is WALK A FEW MILES.  What a drama queen!  Get over yourself, Twit.  And don't get me started on the chub rub situation.  

 

I felt sorry for Glenn.  He is trying to do good and Whitney can't see that. He looked so sad during and after the race.  Babs and the barnacles are major enablers as many of you stated already.

 

Lastly, I had to share - I ran two 5ks on the treadmill today and thought of Twit and all of you guys here!  I worked out before work and ran on the treadmill for 30 minutes, got the first 5K.  Lifted some weights, went to work.  After work I splurged on a second similar workout - ran another 5K.  Each was 30 minutes.  I considered taking it a little slower for the second workout but I literally thought of Twit and said, oh heck no, I'm keeping my pace!  I'm obviously not an elite runner - I'm a middle aged, every so slightly overweight mom.  I have no natural athletic ability.  But with persistence and consistency, I have become a daily runner (well, almost daily).  It was so maddening to see Twit have trouble merely walking a few miles.  Truly, I shudder.  Our bodies are literally made for walking and even jogging or running- it's what we humans have been doing since the beginning of our species!   It's so sad that someone who has all of the privilege, support, access and opportunity in the world has squandered her wellness and cannot WALK a few miles without having a near death experience!

[Tosia]

7 hours ago, ZumbaTiger said:

Thanks for the welcome!

I'm an Anglophile too, mostly reading British mysteries. 

And I love tea.

[Sasha888]

4 hours ago, Kid said:

Actually, I think she is quite aware of other people’s discomfort.  She gets a perverse pleasure in watching them squirm.

I agree, I think she LOVES making people uncomfortable. She likes to shock, push boundaries...whatever it takes to get attention.

I mean, does anyone REALLY believe she loves CAT BREATH? She doesn't love cat breath, she loves the shocked, disgusted look on people's faces when she SAYS she loves cat breath. Just another shock value thing to get attention. 

There's no such thing as bad attention to Twit. Attention is attention.

[TurtlePower]

8 hours ago, calpurnia99 said:

I would have NOT allowed that to be filmed! How did she allow that scene to be filmed, with her big ass up in the air? OMG NO SHAME is right!

The smell. It had to smell and Todd appeared completely repulsed. The folds, the sweat, the bacteria, the horror. 

[Mothra]

I may have this all wrong, but I have understood "no BS" to mean that it's wrong to call attention to people because they are fat with the larger goal of fighting discrimination against fat people in all areas of life.  The idea is that the stereotype of fat, lazy, dirty, smelly, stupid fat people is very damaging--that basically don't judge fat people by their looks.  And I think anyone who's been brought up right, to care about other people's feelings, would agree with all that.

Now here's where I have a problem:  Whitney openly salivated over those muscular Hawaiian men who were there to help them surf.  I've seen her do this every time an attractive man comes in view--she giggles and flirts outrageously--does everything but yell "Hey--look at these guys!"

That kind of behavior seems to me just as insensitive as yelling for people to look at fat people, or to ogle their prominent physical characteristics.  Am I completely nuts here?  I don't have a problem with enforcing civilized behavior around fat people, but I think *everyone* no matter how good- or bad-looking deserves that basic respect.  Just as fat people don't need to be told they're fat, I would imagine that strikingly beautiful people have an inkling that they look pretty good.

And I was blown away by her shaming skills--you can bet old Glen will never try to get her to exercise again.

And one more thing:  she has had trouble with her feet in other episodes.  She is a dancer and she presumably knows how to care for her feet.  Why in hell doesn't she go to a podiatrist or specialist in rehab medicine and get a prescription for shoes that will keep her feet feeling happy?    And anyone who has that kind of trouble over a distance walk ought to invest in a cane.  She would be amazed how much it helps to have something to lean on.  Unless, of course, she comes to her senses and admits she needs to lose weight if she's determined to engage in physical activity.

[princelina]

2 hours ago, MyBigFatFakeLife said:

Todd gagging at Whitney might’ve been a little too much, but I get he must be so fed up to be his “dance partner/caretaker” (we all know “home caretaker” is Donna). He’s constantly mentioning how limited she is compared to him dancewise. I feel like Todd is the more aggressive, in your face version of Tal.

Whitney and Todd’s friendship confuses me. Are they friends or enemies? Does he love her or hate her? I wonder, again, why Whitney does this to herself, to have her “friend” gag and be repulsed by her body and chub rub, while she’s waiting for him to rub her in all fours. And I thought the 8k was the most humiliating part of the episode. Why, Whitney, why?

I like Todd but I feel he has a greyish area type of friendship with Whitney, like you can tell he’s not into the friendship but he loves the attention from the tv show. Or all of this is fake and they really love each other once the cameras are gone. He doesn’t even live in NC. Who knows . Same with Buddy, he doesn’t seem that into her friendship. Sometimes I feel like Whitney needed some “friends/cast” for her upcoming show and these are the ones that showed up. $$$$

 

ETA: The way he passes her during the 8k, that was pretty funny, and Hunter was like “Uh, where did he come from?”. I loved his “I knew I was going to be the fastest by far” attitude. Also, I’ve noticed how he’s tagged as Whitney’s dance partner instead of Whitney’s friend, like everyone else ?

He was dancing with her in her original "Fat Girl Dancing" video, so that's probably how he got cast in this.  Even if they are old friends who used to like dancing together, he could just be sick of her now.  Or they had a grayish type of friendship all along - on reality tv everyone carries on about how they love, love, love all of their friends, the constant air kissing and hugging of everyone - doctors, therapists, accountants, whomever - but in real life everyone doesn't love every person they spend time with (including some of their friends :)

[Pachengala]

15 hours ago, absolutelyido said:

Also, I think describing her skin issues as 'chub rub' is another bit of denial. I think to most people, chub rubs means irritation of the skin on your inner thighs from them rubbing together when you walk. It can happen even if you are not obese. That is not Whitney's issue. Her skin is irritated because it is trapped in folds of fat, gets sweaty, and never dries out because it's never exposed to air. 

Wow, thank you for this! Like @3girlsforus, I was having trouble understanding the issue--I'm not fat and my inner thighs rub together, so I wear running tights when I work out and, if I wear a dress, I wear bike shorts underneath. Voila, problem solved! So yes, now that I see the full issue, I think calling hers "chub rub" is stretching genteelism to its limits. 

I just got back from vacation--HAWAII, OOH LA LA--so am only now watching this episode and last. She is just THE MOST UNPLEASANT PERSON EVER, MY GOD! Every week what they show of her life, her habits, and her behavior gets worse and more revealing; I have laughed it off in the past but now I am starting to think that those of you who say TLC is banking on her death may be onto something. I felt sort of sad for her friends (and her employee, I see you Donna getting into the car to escort her home); the mood after a race is typically jubilant and friendly, but Whitney just can't let anyone have a moment, can she? I think one of the things they're starting to hint at is how mean and rage-y Whitney is; you could see it when she got into the car and demanded to be taken home--I cringed for her party and what they had to know was in store for them. They're enablers, sure, and bring it on themselves through their inaction, but I still felt bad for the ration of shit they were all going to get back at the hotel and probably for the rest of the trip. It's why I can never totally hate Todd despite the C-word thing; he's taking from this situation what he can get, and he's doing it with pizzazz. He clearly hates Whitney as much as we do, but he's not letting her spoil his fun; I love him for it! 

[gigiann]

Thoughts:

I have no problem with Twit or anyone else of size.  I could care less if Twit loses weight or not.  What I care about is how infuriating her delusion is.  So I guess I am "delusion-shaming" her.  She is clearly dependent on others for her even basic needs.   We all know what those things are.  I agree with the others who say Twit gets some sick pleasure out of the stunts she pulls.  That was so disrespectful of her to put Todd in that position.  Her ass up in the air with the biggest blocking by by the editors on her ass was just downright disgusting.  She had no fucking shame in asking Todd to do that.  Hell I remember once my husband was badly constipated and needed some help.  It was suggested by the doctors office when I called to buy a suppository for him.  He was embarrassed as all hell that I had to be the one to insert it for him.  And I was his wife!  And I was a bit creeped out by it too, but as a mother of a little one, I was pretty used to doing temp readings in that way.  And his miserable pain was something I felt I HAD to take care of.  As Todd was applying the cream he was obviously disgusted by it and she had no shame in it. Never heard her once say "Oh Todd, I am sooooo sorry" and expressed her own embarrassment and appreciation for Todds efforts. It was all about HER once again without any consideration for someone else.

And ya know damn well all the sobbing, screaming crying was all for drama to "teach Dad a lesson".  The whole thing was -- I am gonna make Dad feel horrible and show him a thing or two and make him feel like shit for putting me through this.  She was being manipulative with every step she hobbled through.  

Once you can't take care of your own needs and personal hygiene then you have a problem.  And that is Twit for sure.  Twit can stay 400lbs if she wants to but PLEASE PLEASE stop the bullshit and subjecting your loved ones to take care of your needs.  Especially the hygiene ones.

God, I hate her crap and attention whorish ways.

[GoldaVining]

8 hours ago, ZumbaTiger said:

I wish Whitney's parents had tried doing that back when she actually was a toddler and maybe then she wouldn't have grown into the manipulative monster she is today!

Yes. This was the most uncomfortable episode (for me) so far watching this show since the beginning because of the way Whitney treated her father during the race. She was hell bent on punishing her father for asking her to do the 5/8 km walk. She was determined to make him regret it. In the past, Whitney and Glenn have exercised together in an effort to stave off diabetes. It would have been reasonable for Glenn to say this was all part of the on-going effort to bring down their A1Cs. Whitney complained that Hunter wasn't asked to do the race in exchange for the trip, suggesting she was being singled out for being fat. It is a previously accepted concept in their family that Glenn and Whitney both need to work on their A1C levels, so this was just a pointless tantrum to bite back at her father and potentially ruin the anniversary dinner. That said, Glenn and Babs created this monster by babying Whitney for 30+ years.

I like Whitney's friends, all of them. Whitney herself is too much, but I enjoy her friends. Todd and Tal kill me. I love them. At this point, I would like the show a lot more if Whitney were not the star and each character got an equal share of the show. This episode they did a segment on just Heather and Ashley back home with the new baby while everybody else was in Hawaii. Whitney wasn't even there for those scenes. Fine by me! I would like to see more of just Todd, just Tal, just Heather. I love Heather. She is a dear gem and so beautiful. If Buddy wasn't such a fuck-up, he could see what is waiting there for him. I still love Buddy though too -- he is my type. I like big chubby fuzzy dudes. Not killing themselves with booze and coke, but otherwise.

[Tabbygirl521]

On 2/27/2018 at 5:28 PM, Elizzikra said:

OhmyGod - Todd. YOU CAN SAY NO!!!

Couldn’t her mom or Donna help instead? Where WAS Donna?

[alabetser]

38 minutes ago, Tabbygirl521 said:

Couldn’t her mom or Donna help instead? Where WAS Donna?

With Donna's impressive race time I couldn't help but think it was partly from seeing Whitney's mass text calling for help and booking it out of there at Mach 1. Lol

[TurtlePower]

9 hours ago, princelina said:

He was dancing with her in her original "Fat Girl Dancing" video, so that's probably how he got cast in this.  Even if they are old friends who used to like dancing together, he could just be sick of her now.  Or they had a grayish type of friendship all along - on reality tv everyone carries on about how they love, love, love all of their friends, the constant air kissing and hugging of everyone - doctors, therapists, accountants, whomever - but in real life everyone doesn't love every person they spend time with (including some of their friends :)

For reals. Willing to bet she was already a handful when she was in HS and a normal weight--now, with her added weight, her own show and all her disabilities, Todd has probably had it with her. He's shown he doesn't like being touched and Whitney tried to force him to "snuggle" with her last season in NYC. Now she's asking him to lube her unreachables? F that!! Whitney treats her friends like servants. I don't blame him for his aggressive nature towards her; he doesn't even try to hide it anymore. 

[Snarkastikate]

As Whitney ages and her body inevitably starts to break down, it's going to be really tough to keep up the fabulous and no body shame mantra.  She's not fooling anyone.  While she was able to boogy down dancing while she was in her 20's, when was the last time we saw her doing it lately?  She's inevitably in for major health problems very soon.  And honestly, a 400 lb woman should not be doing a race/walk like that.....it's just stupid, dangerous and proves absolutely nothing when you have to be dragged screaming crying sobbing crawling to finish.  What childish histrionics!  Which of us didn't want to just slap her right in the face!   But to Whitney and maybe her parents that she did the race somehow in their minds validates that she's still healthy?  No siree, she is NOT.   

[preciousperfect]

Finishing the race had nothing to do with trying to show she was healthy. It was only to punish her dad for "making" her participate and simultaneously have all of the attention be on her when she finish long after everyone else in the race had and her family/friends had to stand around waiting for HER. 

[mybuddyspence]

On 2/28/2018 at 7:07 PM, Dot said:

You read this wrong: It's becuz I & several others have Dish that we didn't get to watch this episode. Dish dropped TLC from its basic pkg last week.

Yeah, I have Dish too, and their timing sucked. I am DYING to see this episode just based on all of the comments here. Did Whit seem sincerely thank those other racers who were trying to encourage her? Because based on some of the FB comments she made to her fans, I wouldn't be surprised if she gave them fake smile and made a snarky comment afterwards. 

[Brooks]

7 hours ago, alabetser said:

With Donna's impressive race time I couldn't help but think it was partly from seeing Whitney's mass text calling for help and booking it out of there at Mach 1. Lol

Doesn't Donna's race result mean she has been working out?  Maybe going for runs with Todd?

[mybuddyspence]

16 hours ago, Mothra said:

Because I care...

 

https://freedomwand.com/blogs/press/differences-between-the-freedomwand-bottom-buddy-and-self-wipe

 

Hey, what a great Christmas or birthday gift idea!!

[mybuddyspence]

On 3/1/2018 at 4:31 AM, Stripper Glitter said:

A few years ago a friend talked me into doing a 5k Color Dash. For at least a month before my husband & I walked a 5k nearly every day, including the route itself. Come Dash Day, it was warmer than I was used to. Everyone was passing me. My husband not-so-helpfully told be how we were last, even being beat by little old ladies. I was so pissed! By the time we were near the finish line I was limping and crying. I walked across the finish line holding hands with my husband & friend. But dammit I did it. 

Of course it burned me out on walking and I quit going after that, but I finished. I waa about 30 lbs heavier than I am now. It was rough. But, at least I never had to switch to flip flops, and no chub rub ointment was in sight :-p

Aw, don't give up, StripperGlitter. Maybe your husband thought he was trying to be helpful and motivate you. I can easily see my partner doing that too-sometimes the guys really need to work on adjusting their brain-to-filters.

I'm also wondering if Whitney's blisters were caused by the probability that her shoes weren't broken in. I can easily imagine her pulling them out of her closet and blowing the dust off them thinking that she'll be fine. Also, I'm sure that changing into flip flops and walking without shoes didn't help the fact that her feet were hurting so badly. 

[Irate Panda]

I think Buddy’s anger had nothing to do with truly thinking Whitney’s “wanting” to finish the race was addict behavior.  I think he realized how hard it was to listen to her bullshit while sober, and now that he’s fessed up to his problems gets irritated that she’s being rewarded for her addict behavior: EATING with trips, shows, etc.  

On a side note, how pathetic is Heather?  I’d love to know about her ex-husband if she thinks a  stumbling, bumbling, alcoholic with a coke problem and anger issues is Prince Charming.  Girl, go get some self respect and focus on you and your children.  I’m not saying she shouldn’t date, but she should probably take some time to figure out her codependency on Buddy and why she “didn’t” know he had a problem, considering people on here could see it a mile away at least a season ago.  Either the woman is lying or she’s dumber than I thought.

Anytime, I have a modicum of sympathy for Whitney it vanishes.  I get her point about Hunter didn’t have to run the 5k and I can even see how that would be frustrating, but heres the thing, that’s the whole point of bribing someone, you get them to do what you want.  Whitney could have easily said (if we are pretending Glenn and not TLC paid for this) “No, thanks, Dad, I’ll pay my own way to Hawai’i, and enjoy it on my terms.”  If we are talking about fairness Hunter could have easily sad Dad (TLC) didn’t pay for four of my friends to come to Hawai’i to cheer or rub lotion on me.   

 

Whitney will be a burden on her parents their whole lives unless they outlive her.  I honestly think while Glenn May enjoy working, he’s probably saving more money because Whitney can’t even take care of herself much less them when they get too old.  He’s also probably saving money for her because besides this show has she ever been self supporting? Disability checks aren’t going to keep her in the lifestyle she’s accustomed to with her parents.  I would say she can go the zlist  celebrity round and move from show to show, but she really doesn’t seem that ambitious. 

[Thrifty]

18 hours ago, AUJulia said:

What irritates me the most is how disrespectful and condescending and rude (and boundary-crossing) she is to her parents, all while she gets upset if they ever question her choices. 

Most likely it'll be a fat polygamist. Maybe one of the sister wives can have a spinoff fat show. (I get royalties since I suggested it.)

"Say Yes to the 600 Pound Sister Wife's Dress"

[Thrifty]

12 hours ago, Sasha888 said:

I mean, does anyone REALLY believe she loves CAT BREATH? She doesn't love cat breath, she loves the shocked, disgusted look on people's faces when she SAYS she loves cat breath. Just another shock value thing to get attention.

Sure.  A lot of people have pleasures other people find weird.  I like cat breath and like to smell my cats' mouths.  It's not exactly pleasant, but it is interesting.  I like cats because they are so pleasing to 4 of the five senses.  Also they poop in a box of sand instinctively.  You don't even have to train them.  But I digress.

[AUJulia]

47 minutes ago, Thrifty said:

"Say Yes to the 600 Pound Sister Wife's Dress"

*shudder*

[Kid]

4 hours ago, Snarkastikate said:

As Whitney ages and her body inevitably starts to break down, it's going to be really tough to keep up the fabulous and no body shame mantra.  She's not fooling anyone.  While she was able to boogy down dancing while she was in her 20's, when was the last time we saw her doing it lately?  She's inevitably in for major health problems very soon.  And honestly, a 400 lb woman should not be doing a race/walk like that.....it's just stupid, dangerous and proves absolutely nothing when you have to be dragged screaming crying sobbing crawling to finish.  What childish histrionics!  Which of us didn't want to just slap her right in the face!   But to Whitney and maybe her parents that she did the race somehow in their minds validates that she's still healthy?  No siree, she is NOT.   

Because, the laws of physics do not change for Whitney Way, Thore.

[beeziebee]

13 hours ago, Mothra said:

And I was blown away by her shaming skills--you can bet old Glen will never try to get her to exercise again.

And I think that is precisely why she carried on like she did.  She wanted to make as big a deal as she could out of it--all the drama and histrionics she could muster--to be sure that Daddy NEVER did this to her again.  All she had to say was "No, I won't be doing the 5K/8K."  All the drama was planned.  It started in the car ride to the walk (I can't say run).  

I think her tactics worked.  She shamed her parents into never saying a word about her or her weight or her health again, and at the same time crapping all over their anniversary celebration.

[Thrifty]

I sort of agree with Whitney.  It was a very bad idea of her father to make her walk a 5K or 8K or whatever distance it actually was.

[3girlsforus]

21 minutes ago, Thrifty said:

I sort of agree with Whitney.  It was a very bad idea of her father to make her walk a 5K or 8K or whatever distance it actually was.

This is true but I don’t blame Glen. He’s her dad and desperately wants to help her not die. He doesn’t have the expertise or the real understanding of how bad off she is to realize this was something she really can’t do. After all he’s in his 70s and can do it without problem. Surely his 33 year old daughter can. I do think he realizes now how bad she is. Even still, she wasn’t forced. She could have be honest with her dad and said her weight has gotten bad enough that it’s not a reasonable goal. She could have just said she didn’t want to and paid her own way to Hawaii (although I suspect Glen wouldn’t have made her). She could take some kind of responsibility. But she didn’t. She pushed ahead and punished those who tried to help. 

[Thrifty]

23 minutes ago, 3girlsforus said:

This is true but I don’t blame Glen. He’s her dad and desperately wants to help her not die. He doesn’t have the expertise or the real understanding of how bad off she is to realize this was something she really can’t do. After all he’s in his 70s and can do it without problem. Surely his 33 year old daughter can. I do think he realizes now how bad she is. Even still, she wasn’t forced. She could have be honest with her dad and said her weight has gotten bad enough that it’s not a reasonable goal. She could have just said she didn’t want to and paid her own way to Hawaii (although I suspect Glen wouldn’t have made her). She could take some kind of responsibility. But she didn’t. She pushed ahead and punished those who tried to help. 

He had good intentions, sure.  It was an honest mistake, but it was still a mistake. 

 

I agree that Whitney didn't handle it with very much maturity, but I do still give her credit for not backing out like she could have.

[AUJulia]

52 minutes ago, Thrifty said:

I sort of agree with Whitney.  It was a very bad idea of her father to make her walk a 5K or 8K or whatever distance it actually was.

She's technically an adult who could've said she was staying home if the price of going was a 5K. Or, and this is where your point dies, sorry, she could've ended at the 5K mark and gone on her merry, non-histrionic way. But of course all this assumes Glenn actually paid for the trip, which I don't believe for a minute. It was a MBFFL trip and Whitney has herself and/or TLC to blame, not Glenn. But hey, this isn't real life. 

Tangential thought: Glenn and Babs are showing their age. I recently lost  (unexpectedly) two close family members aged 62 and 74. I can't help wondering how Whitless would feel if they died suddenly and the film of the last major trip she took with her parents showed her mocking her mom's mental capacity and abusing her dad. I guess it's just more predictable damage she won't give any thought to. 

Edited March 2, 2018 by AUJulia

[AUJulia]

Also, this 5K thing probably was a big troll move by production. It deliciously put Sweatney right between a rock and a hard place: she doesn't WANT to do it, knows she CAN'T do it, but will be damned if she'll admit it's because she's too fat. Her current tactic on SM of "nothing to see here, hey look at me put my dad to shame in the gym" proves to me that she's aware that production GOT her in Hawaii. 

[ClareWalks]

Whitney could have not done the race at all. What would have been the consequence? Daddy and Mommy give her anything she wants, any time. Whitney could have REFUSED to do the race and they wouldn't have done shit about it. Whitney chose to do the race and be a drama queen about it, and I'm sure her parents feel guilty because they feel responsible for her massive size and shitty health (they've been enabling her every whim for decades), but it is a simple fact that nobody could have made Whitney do that race if she didn't want to. And she wanted to. She wanted to make a spectacle of herself, teach everyone a lesson, make people feel bad for her, and at the same time get a finisher medal that proves that "fat people can do anything they set their mind to." Whitney doesn't enjoy fitness, she PERFORMS fitness when it is convenient. That's why she does crazy stunt workouts instead of reasonable ones, she is utterly incapable of turning off the "LOOK AT ME" aspect of her personality. Proof: she videotapes her workouts, which are always in public at the gym with other people around to verify. She never posts anything about going to the gym without *receipts and photos* of it, which tells me it ain't happening unless she has an audience.

Edited March 2, 2018 by ClareWalks

[AUJulia]

8 minutes ago, ClareWalks said:

Whitney could have not done the race at all. What would have been the consequence? Daddy and Mommy give her anything she wants, any time. Whitney could have REFUSED to do the race and they wouldn't have done shit about it. Whitney chose to do the race and be a drama queen about it, and I'm sure her parents feel guilty because they feel responsible for her massive size and shitty health (they've been enabling her every whim for decades), but it is a simple fact that nobody could have made Whitney do that race if she didn't want to. And she wanted to. She wanted to make a spectacle of herself, teach everyone a lesson, make people feel bad for her, and at the same time get a finisher medal that proves that "fat people can do anything they set their mind to." Whitney doesn't enjoy fitness, she PERFORMS fitness when it is convenient. That's why she does crazy stunt workouts instead of reasonable ones, she is utterly incapable of turning off the "LOOK AT ME" aspect of her personality. Proof: she videotapes her workouts, which are always in public at the gym with other people around to verify. She never posts anything about going to the gym without *receipts and photos* of it, which tells me it ain't happening unless she has an audience.

 

^^^^^^^^ This. But also: what if production told her she had to do it IF SHE WAS ABLE?

Edited March 2, 2018 by AUJulia

[Thrifty]

You guys are missing the point and getting lost on this fixation of assigning blame.  You don't ask someone to undertake a physical action they aren't capable of.  It's stupid.  I'm not going to walk up to my skinny 20 year old niece and ask her to run the Boston Marathon in exchange for a car.  Yes she could refuse, or say she doesn't think she can do it, but it's a mistake for me to ask her in the first place.

[AUJulia]

2 minutes ago, Thrifty said:

You guys are missing the point and getting lost on this fixation of assigning blame.  You don't ask someone to undertake a physical action they aren't capable of.  It's stupid.  I'm not going to walk up to my skinny 20 year old niece and ask her to run the Boston Marathon in exchange for a car.  Yes she could refuse, or say she doesn't think she can do it, but it's a mistake for me to ask her in the first place.

No it's not. You're being patronizing to suggest that Whitney has no capacity to make a decision for herself. Is she immature? Oh yes. Did she get hoist by her own petard? Yes, because she's unwilling to admit the emperor has no clothes. I think it was brilliant of whoever thought of it. 

[MyBigFatFakeLife]

I think it’s naive of us to believe Glenn or Babs do or wish anything at this point. It’s all scripted. What I don’t understand is why Whitney puts herself in that position. I bet the producers thought  a trip to Hawaii wouldn’t be exciting enough so they had to add some type of conflict. There it is. What puzzles me is why Whitney accepts these storylines that put her in the “unhealthy fat person in denial” position over and over again. She can see it, she’s not stupid. I guess she just likes this, people talking about her and her show. And for that she must have the drama at her obesity’s expense. 

Edited March 2, 2018 by MyBigFatFakeLife

[Kid]

4 hours ago, Thrifty said:

You guys are missing the point and getting lost on this fixation of assigning blame.  You don't ask someone to undertake a physical action they aren't capable of.  It's stupid.  I'm not going to walk up to my skinny 20 year old niece and ask her to run the Boston Marathon in exchange for a car.  Yes she could refuse, or say she doesn't think she can do it, but it's a mistake for me to ask her in the first place.

The mistake here Is that a 73-year-old father, concerned about the welfare of his daughter, has to BRIBE her to do something he believes will make her life better. She did not have to take the bribe, as posters above had pointed out so eloquently before me.

Whether he’s right or wrong, he should not have to bribe this horrid toddler.

4 hours ago, MyBigFatFakeLife said:

I think it’s naive of us to believe Glenn or Babs do or wish anything at this point. It’s all scripted. What I don’t understand is why Whitney puts herself in that position. I bet the producers thought  a trip to Hawaii wouldn’t be exciting enough so they had to add some type of conflict. There it is. What puzzles me is why Whitney accepts these storylines that put her in the “unhealthy fat person in denial” position over and over again. She can see it, she’s not stupid. I guess she just likes this, people talking about her and her show. And for that she must have the drama at her obesity’s expense. 

 

I did not see this before I did the post above.   If this is all scripted, WHY would you let yourself be protrayed in this negative, unattractive light???  Even if it is all scripted, it says something about the real person. She will do anything for money, she will do anything for attention, she will do anything to be “famous.”

That still makes her horrid. I quit watching as of three episodes ago because I can’t take it anymore. I read the forum because it’s entertaining, I keep up on what’s going on, and I get a kick out of you people.  

Edited March 2, 2018 by Kid

[Emma C]

16 hours ago, Sasha888 said:

I mean, does anyone REALLY believe she loves CAT BREATH? She doesn't love cat breath, she loves the shocked, disgusted look on people's faces when she SAYS she loves cat breath.

I don't like cats at all, but PUPPY breath? I will smell that all day!

15 hours ago, Mothra said:

I would imagine that strikingly beautiful people have an inkling that they look pretty good.
 

Yes, we are aware.

Edited March 2, 2018 by Emma C

[Brooks]

6 minutes ago, Kid said:

The mistake here Is that a 73-year-old father, concerned about the welfare of his daughter, has to BRIBE her to do something he believes will make her life better. She did not have to take the bride, as posters above had pointed out so eloquently before me.

Whether he’s right or wrong, he should not have bribe this horrid toddler.

If the episode was scripted by TLC, then it was TLC that bribed Whitney, or maybe threatened her to do it.

[AUJulia]

Just now, Brooks said:

If the episode was scripted by TLC, then it was TLC that bribed Whitney, or maybe threatened her to do it.

Exactly what I think. The price for getting out of the 5K was admitting that she's essentially disabled, which they doubted she'd do. #greatTV

[ClareWalks]

18 minutes ago, Thrifty said:

You guys are missing the point and getting lost on this fixation of assigning blame.  You don't ask someone to undertake a physical action they aren't capable of.  It's stupid.  I'm not going to walk up to my skinny 20 year old niece and ask her to run the Boston Marathon in exchange for a car.  Yes she could refuse, or say she doesn't think she can do it, but it's a mistake for me to ask her in the first place.

But Whitney has done a 5K before. In fact, SHE made GLENN do the last 5K they did. And Glenn didn't just "ask her to do" this impossible task, he took her to the gym and tried to get her to train for it. She probably had at least a month of advance notice that this race was coming up, which was plenty of time to at least be able to build up to walking a couple miles at a time, but she flat-out refused to try (those two pitiful workouts, one a swimming workout, wouldn't cut it). Not only that, but this "plantar fasciitis" excuse was extremely convenient and you would think if it was a real problem that she would have said "Daddy, my feet can't handle that distance" at the time he suggested the race. 

I don't know, I don't think it's inherently wrong to ask someone to do a physical task, especially if they have time to train for it and have done it before. After Glenn learned it was really an 8K race he told Whitney she could stop at the 5K mark. Whitney is a grownup and is responsible for her decisions.

[Thrifty]

15 minutes ago, AUJulia said:

No it's not. You're being patronizing to suggest that Whitney has no capacity to make a decision for herself. Is she immature? Oh yes. Did she get hoist by her own petard? Yes, because she's unwilling to admit the emperor has no clothes. I think it was brilliant of whoever thought of it. 

I didn't suggest that.  I was saying that it was a mistake to ask her to do this and it was a mistake for her to do it too.

 

This is getting too frustrating to continue so I'm just going to drop the subject.

[Ketzel]

Whitney, oddly given the circumstances, accuses her father of lying to her and refuses to do the walk,  lectures her parents on not bribing her,  blames them for treating her differently than they treat Hunter, and then confides to the camera that it "kills" her to disappoint her father, so she'll do the walk.  Seriously? The primary goal her father has had for her through all the seasons of this crappy show was to lose weight. And she has disappointed him in every way she could while condescendingly explaining that his desire to have a daughter who is not morbidly obese is actually a form of shaming and emotionally abusing her.

I don't get why it was wrong of Glenn to ask Whitney to do the walk. She has shoved the "I'm healthy, I'm capable of doing anything a skinny person can do" mantra down his throat so many times, I expect he was cowed into believing it.  Plus the two of them had done a 5K together a couple of years ago, so why not one more time? It wasn't a mistake on his part to ask her to do the walk. It was a mistake to believe her flagrant misrepresentation of her physical ability.

(And if it was really TLC who was demanding she do the walk, same analysis applies. She says she's fit and healthy. Let's have her do a little gentle exercise on a beautiful island. Heh.)

Edited March 2, 2018 by Ketzel