ElectricBoogaloo November 8, 2017 Share November 8, 2017 Quote Kevin goes back to his high school to accept an award. Jack and Rebecca get excited about their kids' futures. Promo: Link to comment
mtlchick November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 Somehow I missed that the final 3 episodes of the year would have stand alone episodes for The Big 3. Kevin is a full blown mess. And was a cocky bastard in high school who thought "nothing can go wrong! Not- AH MY KNEE!" Now he's an addict, took advantage of a doctor (I know she's a plastic surgeon, but she should have noticed how strung out he was, or didn't want to) and at the end, lost the one last thing that belonged to his dad. Only to made worse the next morning by finding out Kate loses the baby. The one moment that stood out in all that doom and gloom was "Ll Cool K." Teenage Randall was an adorable nerd. At the end of the hour I'm like "dammit show, can you give one of the three a break?!" Complete aside: my sister watched Bad Moms 2 and said Justin was a hoot in it. 17 Link to comment
Guest November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 I think this was my first time tearing up at an episode since halfway through last season, but tonight did it. Kevin on the football field. Kevin being such a jerk but not trying to be. That final scene of Kevin outside Charlotte’s house was gut wrenching. And then the news about Kate? Gut punch after gut punch. Jack’s speech was overdone. But I need Kevin to somehow get that necklace back. Link to comment
Popular Post AmandaPanda November 15, 2017 Popular Post Share November 15, 2017 When that teenage girl came over to Kevin, I was so paranoid he was going to sleep with her. Thank god he slept with the doctor instead. And all of Kevin's breakdowns tonight were the most actor-y actor scenes I've ever seen. They all just felt so fake to me. 37 Link to comment
Popular Post Katy M November 15, 2017 Popular Post Share November 15, 2017 That woman was a doctor. Kevin practically told her he was on drugs. At the very least she knew he was drunk and depressed. And she thinks a hook up is a good idea? Whatever. At least Kevin showed a modicum of good sense by not going off with the high school student. He was so close to telling Randall, and now he's not going to. Not Kate's fault, of course. Or Randall's. 47 Link to comment
katycat74 November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 God damn, this show is determined to kill me, isn't it? 17 Link to comment
Spartan Girl November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 I knew it. I knew when Kate and Toby kept calling that they lost the baby. ???????? Damn, this was definitely Justin's Emmy episode. As much as Kevin pissed me off, he broke my heart in that football field scene. I was SO SCARED he was going to hook up with the high school girl. The last thing we needed on this show after recent current events was for a character to go down for statutory rape. But banging the doc/former classmate just to steal her prescription pads? That was low. Even if he didn't go through with cashing them in. 22 Link to comment
bettername2come November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 (edited) So fucking predictable and dramatic and yet, when Randall said Kate lost the baby, I gasped. God, did he blow her off when she tried to tell him? That's just awful. I hope he gets that necklace back and gets his life together. Nice Big 3 moment as they left the hospital in flashback. Oh, this is gonna be where Kate and Kevin find out they were triplets, isn't it? I don't think they know. Edited November 15, 2017 by bettername2come 8 Link to comment
Katy M November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Spartan Girl said: I knew it. I knew when Kate and Toby kept calling that they lost the baby. ???????? Damn, this was definitely Justin's Emmy episode. As much as Kevin pissed me off, he broke my heart in that football field scene. I was SO SCARED he was going to hook up with the high school girl. The last thing we needed on this show after recent current events was for a character to go down for statutory rape. But banging the doc/former classmate just to steal her prescription pads? That was low. Even if he didn't go through with cashing them in. Age of consent is 16 in PA. She looked to be at least that. Link to comment
debraran November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 That paper script wouldn't be legal at least in my state, especially for fentanyl, but this is TV. When our script writer broke, everyone had trouble with paper scripts. That was sad, but is everyone blind, is Kevin really invisible. The doctor doesn't see it, his family, his girlfriend, people at the school. Strange. I see it in people I'm not close too. I didn't see the miscarriage coming so soon. Was it to set up something else? Why glee for one episode and then it's gone? Was it to take the attention from Kevin? Seems like the lights will be a fire starter or why show the fuse box? I liked all the emotion but I can't fathom Kevin in so much pain and physical breakdown and not have anyone reach out. 13 Link to comment
Popular Post Spartan Girl November 15, 2017 Popular Post Share November 15, 2017 Just now, Katy M said: Age of consent is 16 in PA. She looked to be at least that. It's still gross, IMO. 64 Link to comment
Katy M November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 Just now, bettername2come said: So fucking predictable and dramatic and yet, when Randall said Kate lost the baby, I gasped. God, did he blow her off when she tried to tell him? That's just awful. I hope he gets that necklace back and gets his life together. Nice Big 3 moment as they left the hospital in flashback. He kept ignoring her calls, but he didn't know that she had a miscarriage, so no he wasn't blowing her off while she was trying to tell him. I don't think he'd much help now anyway. Just now, Spartan Girl said: It's still gross, IMO. Hey, don't tell me. I think age of consent should be 18 in every state. 6 Link to comment
notcreative enough November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 Kate you have horrible timing. Now we still have druggie Kevin. Sorry about the baby but I wasn't really invested because she was only pregnant for like 2 episodes. They really do want us to hate Kevin. Talk about rock bottom. Hopefully he does get help. Or sobers up for Kate. Glad Milo got to interact with one of the adult cast members again. 13 Link to comment
Katy M November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, notcreative enough said: Kate you have horrible timing. Now we still have druggie Kevin. Sorry about the baby but I wasn't really invested because she was only pregnant for like 2 episodes. They really do want us to hate Kevin. Talk about rock bottom. Hopefully he does get help. Or sobers up for Kate. Glad Milo got to interact with one of the adult cast members again. I can't hate Kevin for getting addicted to drugs. It's not like he did it on purpose. I did kind of hate teen Kevin, though. 13 Link to comment
BuckeyeLou November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 So do we assume the house fire starts because the house is old and the wiring is bad & the fuse box keeps "blowing"? Quote 12 Link to comment
Dreamboat Annie November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 Okay. That was blatant manipulation. Blatant I tell you. And I tell myself that but it doesn't stop the tears. That Charlotte. Geez, that's some crackerjack doctor right there, huh? I'm going to go to a happy place now, the beginning of the episode where Kevin took a bite of a burger, and it looked like an In-N-Out burger. I would really, really like an In-N-Out burger right now. Too bad I don't live anywhere near somewhere that has In-N-Out. 8 Link to comment
Popular Post SnoGirl November 15, 2017 Popular Post Share November 15, 2017 Kevin looked just awful the entire episode. That football field scene just killed me. Who doesnt have a moment like thay where you look back on and are desparate to change it. Ugh, my heart broke for Kevin. I havent always liked him but the writing for him this season is definitely pulling at my heartstrings. The necklace. I really hope he gets it back. I really hope the Doctor sends it to Kate. Speaking of Kate, talk about the worst timing ever. Kevin is reaching out to Randall. RANDALL. I thought for sure he was going to go to Kate. Please show, dont have Kevin bury this too. Have him speak up for himself. I dont know how his family is looking at his face and not seeing how awful and sweaty he looks. 31 Link to comment
Duke2801 November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, AmandaPanda said: And all of Kevin's breakdowns tonight were the most actor-y actor scenes I've ever seen. They all just felt so fake to me. Ooof yes, that scene with just him on the football field had me cringing. Too melodramatic and soap-y. Idk ...I like Kevin well enough when he's with Kate or Randall- heck even Sophie. But I did not enjoy an entire episode focused on The Addiction. Watching him very clearly spiral downward while none of his family members, friends (assuming he has them- they've never really said), or coworkers notice anything anything is wrong just rings false to me. I know that some people can hide their addictions very well for years (hey look at Nurse Jackie!) but he doesn't seem to be one of them. Edited November 15, 2017 by Duke2801 13 Link to comment
Katy M November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 Just now, Duke2801 said: Ooof yes, that scene with just him on the football field had me cringing. Too melodramatic and soap-y. Idk ...I like Kevin well enough when he's with Kate or Randall- heck even Sophie. But I did not enjoy an entire episode focused on The Addiction. Watching him very clearly spiral downward while none of his family members, friends (assuming he has them- they've never really said), or coworkers notice anything anything is wrong just rings false to me. I know that some people can hide their addictions very well for years (hey look at Nurse Jackie!) but he doesn't seem to be one of them. Come on. I think Martina noticed something was wrong. But, seriously, being bi-coastal I just don't think he's spending enough time with any one person. I think if he hadn't broken up with Sophie, she would have noticed. She seemed close to noticing something. Kate thought something was off, but she was excited/nervous about her pregnancy. 10 Link to comment
tribeca November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 Teens can be annoying. Kevin at the football scout meeting was acting like a jerk. When they went to randals math thing I thought Kevin was joking about his fans in the stands. I don’t think he slept with the doctor to get her prescription pad. He just found it and acted like an addict. Charlotte was living out her teenage fantasy and said so. She wasn’t going to notice anything. Surely the people at the high school at least noticed his drinking. Thought that was why young girl who looked like Sophie asked him to party. I thought it was interesting that Kevin went to Randall for help. I wish he had actually gotten help. I don’t enjoy addict Kevin. 14 Link to comment
Popular Post PepSinger November 15, 2017 Popular Post Share November 15, 2017 Although Charlotte had a right to be pissed about how she was treated, I cannot imagine just shutting the window on a guy who lost the one thing his dad gave him before he died. What Kevin did was shitty, but let's put things in perspective here. 79 Link to comment
Popular Post Lady Calypso November 15, 2017 Popular Post Share November 15, 2017 Wow, I haven't cried like this since sometime last season. I teared up at Memphis, but I think it was much earlier when I actually shed tears. This was truly an amazing episode. Justin Hartley absolutely killed it. He really showed the ugly side to addiction, and he really showed his weaknesses and how he sees himself. That last scene with him on Charlotte's lawn? Goddamn, that was Emmy worthy. It shows that Sterling isn't the only one deserving of an Emmy. That was seriously awesome acting from Justin. Props to the makeup department for making Kevin look absolutely terrible. How people couldn't see his spiral, I have no idea. He looked and was acting all wrong. He was rude and downright cruel, all because his mind was focused on his next fix. He's not holding it together, it's clear he's avoided taking Kate's calls to save her the pain of seeing him like this, but he's so alone. He's almost hit rock bottom here, and the sad part is that the moment he realizes he needs to tell someone, Kate loses the baby so that gets in the way. I know that they might be saving Kevin's true rock bottom moment (possibly attempted suicide/accidental overdose) for the finale, but damn if that doesn't suck. We're not supposed to like Kevin when he's like this, and I appreciate that they're allowing for this ugly, ugly side to be shown of a main character. Unfortunately, this is the side we see most often from Kevin, while Kate and Randall get more shining moments. However, the scene with him on the football field, narrating his life was...wow. I felt that Kevin, in that moment, was his own worst critic. I don't think anyone hates Kevin more than Kevin does. As for the flashbacks, he was pretty shitty to the college coach, and Jack was trying to do something really nice for Kevin. It was nice to see Kevin finally apologize at the end. I think all he's wanted was his dad's attention, love, and approval. He was a brat, but a realistic teenager, with how he treated his dad. He was angry at Jack being an alcoholic, but he also admired him too much. It does suck that Jack chose Randall over Kevin with the college tour, but I don't think it was an important game (maybe I'm wrong) so Jack not being there is fine. He can't be at every game. I did like how Kevin saw a glimpse of Jack's AA recovery. I think it helped open the door to understand his dad. This is THE best episode since Memphis. Personally, since I wasn't a huge fan of William, this is my favourite episode of the series over Memphis, but I also love the centric episode about Kevin. It's about damn time. I think what I like about this addiction storyline is that they're not just wrapping it up in six episodes, nor are they tip toeing around the realism with it. Most often, shows are afraid to really go for it, or they rush it. This show has really taken its time and although it's frustrating because we want to see the end to it, I love how they're handling it, and I have no doubt it won't be all season for Kevin to get help. I totally get that this could be a polarizing episode, whether or not you like Kevin. Since I'm a huge fan of Kevin, a fan of how they've handled the story, and realize that Kevin's supposed to be unlikable and trying to get his life together, I'm fine with how they're dealing with this. 69 Link to comment
BuckeyeLou November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 So we find out more pieces of the puzzle of the Pearsons: we find out Kevin was born 1st and the 1st to reach childhood milestones like walking. We find out how & when Kevin got his father's necklace. We find out Randall got Ivy League scholarship offers. In an episode filled with 'doom&gloom" there were some nice family moments, like when the family was playing football together out on the lawn, and when the Family left the hospital together & Randall gave Kevin a fist bump. I liked how the lady Doctor said that Kevin & Kate were inseparable in High School. 7 Link to comment
Popular Post Conotocarious November 15, 2017 Popular Post Share November 15, 2017 I thought Justin Hartley was wonderful this episode. His desperation on the lawn at the end really got me. 61 Link to comment
stonehaven November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 This definitely is the Kevin episode..and it felt like a pity party except that football field speech was a cry for help.....I wonder if he was almost going to have a "God Grant Me" moment on that field. I was wondering about the Script pad and how legal that is. It is amazing that everyone really only sees what they want to see. 2 Link to comment
Popular Post methodwriter85 November 15, 2017 Popular Post Share November 15, 2017 Nothing makes me feel like I'm watching a teenager walk down a hall in his 1997 high school than hearing a song from 1979! You know, I get that this show loves it Baby Boomer nostalgia music picks, but I wish they'd branch out when it comes to the Gen Y nostalgia. 29 Link to comment
mmecorday November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 I am not a Kevin fan, so I found this one slow-going, especially when he felt the need to recap all the shitty things that have happened to him and all the crap he's done to mess up his life. We know, Kev. We've been watching the show for over a year now. Yes, the broken knee permanently derailed his dreams of grid iron glory, I get that. But he had so many other opportunities after that, and he seriously acted sometimes like he didn't understand that not everyone gets to do what he does for a living. Number One certainly has a way of treating the people in his life like Number Two. I was also scared that he had Roy Moored the young high school student, but I guess he realized the plastic surgeon's prescription pad was more of a score. This show is playing with my mind. I'm beginning to think at one time I watched a show called "The Manny." 11 Link to comment
chocolatine November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 How has nobody yet noticed what a mess Kevin is? The doctor, the coach, Randall? It's so incongruous that his family nickname is #1 but he's being treated like a middle child in every way. In his football field monologue Kevin said he "got up" just in time to bury his father, so is that a hint as to the timeline of Jack's death? Like three or four months, is that how long it takes to lose the cast and walk again after an injury like Kevin's? He was still wearing the cast the night the house burned down, so maybe that's a hint that Jack didn't die that night. I knew Kate would lose the baby. She was only ten weeks along in the last episode. That's still the first trimester, ie. highest risk of miscarriage. 16 Link to comment
Lady Calypso November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, stonehaven said: This definitely is the Kevin episode..and it felt like a pity party except that football field speech was a cry for help.....I wonder if he was almost going to have a "God Grant Me" moment on that field. He may not have had it on the field, but he did have it on Charlotte's lawn, which I thought was actually really well done. 15 Link to comment
Katy M November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, stonehaven said: I was wondering about the Script pad and how legal that is. What do you mean? 3 Link to comment
Conotocarious November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 Yup. I miscarried at 10 weeks. I was really shocked at the reveal that Kate lost the baby even though I kind of thought that would happen. Maybe I was shocked to be right or that they did it so soon. 5 Link to comment
debraran November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 Just now, Lady Calypso said: He may not have had it on the field, but he did have it on Charlotte's lawn, which I thought was actually really well done. Yeah, she was really cold and angry but she had to know as creepy as he was, it was a one night thing. And she was blind to his sweating and behavior as a doctor? Not believable. I wonder if Jack dies later, since Kevin has to lose the cast and get back on his feet? If the fire happened before, he might have had to go there for something or started to drink again because of the stress. 5 Link to comment
Popular Post mtlchick November 15, 2017 Popular Post Share November 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, methodwriter85 said: You know, I get that this show loves it Baby Boomer nostalgia music picks, but I wish they'd branch out when it comes to the Gen Y nostalgia. You don't know how bad how I want a scene set in 1999 with "Candy" playing in the background. 41 Link to comment
Popular Post PepSinger November 15, 2017 Popular Post Share November 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said: This is THE best episode since Memphis. Personally, since I wasn't a huge fan of William, this is my favourite episode of the series over Memphis, but I also love the centric episode about Kevin. It's about damn time. I agree. This is my favorite episode since Memphis. I have always liked Kevin, and seeing him breakdown on Charlotte's lawn BROKE. ME. He seemed like such a child in that moment. I don't think I have ever seen him that vulnerable. It was uncomfortable to watch. I've always thought Justin Hartley was a much better actor than the writing gives him credit for. 32 Link to comment
Katy M November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 Just now, mtlchick said: You don't know how bad how I want a scene set in 1999 with "Candy" playing in the background. Mandy hates that song so she probably wouldn't let them use it. 6 Link to comment
Popular Post tennisgurl November 15, 2017 Popular Post Share November 15, 2017 Damn, even Kevin's drug addled meltdowns get upstaged by his siblings stuff. Not that its Kate's fault or anything, it just sucks that its all happening at once. Kevin certainly has a point about how no one can really see him. The guy looks like an extra on The Walking Dead, and no one seems to notice, or care. No one is going to realize whats going on until he ODs in the finale or something. How did that doctor NOT see that Kevin was drunk and strung out when she slept with him? Even if she is a plastic surgeon, she should be able to tell! At least Kevin didn't go party with high schoolers. Now THAT is a real low point. I think the tears started when Kevin was getting to the stage, and saw his coach as Jack. Oh good lord. 36 Link to comment
debraran November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Katy M said: What do you mean? We pretty much only have them for creams and things like that, not narcotics. We have special script paper from a computer you can't forge or do it electronically. 7 Link to comment
Artsda November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 (edited) I loved this episode. Finding out Kevin's back story and seeing him go back to high school so messed up. Justin was great. Edited November 15, 2017 by Artsda 5 Link to comment
methodwriter85 November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 Just now, mtlchick said: You don't know how bad how I want a scene set in 1999 with "Candy" playing in the background. Oh, I'm DYING for that. It would never happen, but I would love that. However, more realistically, I could see a Jack/Kate scene that uses "Have A Little Faith in Me." I always liked Mandy's cover of that, and that is a song I can see playing on this show. 6 Link to comment
HeyThere83 November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 I actually cringed and laughed at the lawn breakdown scene. I don't think Justin does a good job at all with that type of thing. 16 Link to comment
Lady Calypso November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 Just now, debraran said: Yeah, she was really cold and angry but she had to know as creepy as he was, it was a one night thing. And she was blind to his sweating and behavior as a doctor? Not believable. I wonder if Jack dies later, since Kevin has to lose the cast and get back on his feet? If the fire happened before, he might have had to go there for something or started to drink again because of the stress. It seems like she might have wrote off Kevin looking sick because of her dream to be with him. It sucks, but I can see that being the case. People can often be blind in favour of their own feelings. I think she wanted to believe that he would want to be with her. Which is awful on her end if she was partially using him to fulfill her own fantasies (I got that sense when she talked about everyone loving him in high school), but he also ended up unintentionally using her for drugs. We don't know exactly when the fire happens. It could have happened just before Kevin was set to take his cast off. So, if that's the case, then him not having a cast on for the funeral would make sense. 8 Link to comment
SnoGirl November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said: Props to the makeup department for making Kevin look absolutely terrible. How people couldn't see his spiral, I have no idea. He looked and acting all wrong. He was rude and downright cruel, all because his mind was focused on his next fix. He's not holding it together, it's clear he's avoided taking Kate's calls to save her the pain of seeing him like this, but he's so alone. He's almost hit rock bottom here, and the sad part is that the moment he realizes he needs to tell someone, Kate loses the baby so that gets in the way. I know that they might be saving Kevin's true rock bottom moment (possibly attempted suicide/accidental overdose) for the finale, but damn if that doesn't suck. We're not supposed to like Kevin when he's like this, and I appreciate that they're allowing for this ugly, ugly side to be shown of a main character. Unfortunately, this is the side we see most often from Kevin, while Kate and Randall get more shining moments. However, the scene with him on the football field, narrating his life was...wow. I felt that Kevin, in that moment, was his own worst critic. I don't think anyone hates Kevin more than Kevin does. As for the flashbacks, he was pretty shitty to the college coach, and Jack was trying to do something really nice for Kevin. It was nice to see Kevin finally apologize at the end. I think all he's wanted was his dad's attention, love, and approval. He was a brat, but a realistic teenager, with how he treated his dad. He was angry at Jack being an alcoholic, but he also admired him too much. It does suck that Jack chose Randall over Kevin with the college tour, but I don't think it was an important game (maybe I'm wrong) so Jack not being there is fine. He can't be at every game. I did like how Kevin saw a glimpse of Jack's AA recovery. I think it helped open the door to understand his dad. This is THE best episode since Memphis. Personally, since I wasn't a huge fan of William, this is my favourite episode of the series over Memphis, but I also love the centric episode about Kevin. It's about damn time. I think what I like about this addiction storyline is that they're not just wrapping it up in six episodes, nor are they tip toeing around the realism with it. Most often, shows are afraid to really go for it, or they rush it. This show has really taken its time and although it's frustrating because we want to see the end to it, I love how they're handling it, and I have no doubt it won't be all season for Kevin to get help. I totally get that this could be a polarizing episode, whether or not you like Kevin. Since I'm a huge fan of Kevin, a fan of how they've handled the story, and realize that Kevin's supposed to be unlikable and trying to get his life together, I'm fine with how they're dealing with this. All of this. I really hope they dont go the overdose route, but if they do, man I really hope they don’t attach it to Randall. Because I can totally see them having Randall find him and let me tell you from experience, that messes you up. And Randall already has such issues with anxiety. Its going to take down both Pearson Brothers. They’re all going to relive those moments where Kevin has already tried to reach out for help. Especially Randall. Oh man, this show cant resist a storyline like this, Kevin is going to OD. As the oldest sibling in my family, I totally get the self-loathing Kevin is going through. Its hard being the oldest and adding in a drug addiction, I couldnt even imagine. Edited November 15, 2017 by SnoGirl 7 Link to comment
stonehaven November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 Oh yeah, forgot to mention, I normally despise the song "Lonesome Loser" by Little River Band....but loved they played it in the context of Kevin walking through the school..even if the musical reference was about ten years out of date. 21 Link to comment
pixiestix November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 Yes, Kevin was a brat as a teen. But watching him spiral down into his addiction as an adult hit me. I can see how he might come across as an ass, but actually, I found it pretty realistic as someone who has struggled with addiction. So sad when you just want help, but don't know how to reach out...and no one seems to notice you're suffering. I was on the verge of tears the entire episode, but held it together. Then the ending just pushed me right over the edge. I was actually not expecting that. I'm sure it will play beautifully into the story somehow, of course. 19 Link to comment
shouldbedancing November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 It's getting pathetically hilarious how nobody cares/can tell that Kevin is spiraling. Maybe he will end up dead but it better not interrupt Randall's ep! I loved the twist with the plastic surgeon. I thought for sure she was going to be like Kevin, you're drinking so much... and be that outside perspective... seeing the real him when the people closest to him can't. But she turned out to only be hitting on him. Ha! 10 Link to comment
Popular Post tennisgurl November 15, 2017 Popular Post Share November 15, 2017 Yeah, Kevin was definitely bratty as a teen, probably due to a weird combination of cockiness and low self esteem, but I still felt for him when he broke his leg, and later when he was breaking down on the doctors lawn. He has always been stuck in a cycle of making bad choices due to his self worth issues, and now it seems like this is the culmination of a life of screw ups. He has always put so much of his self worth on his athletic ability or his looks, that he has never grown to like himself as a person. I can tell this will be a polarizing episode, based around how much you like Kevin. I do like Kevin, and I think this was a great episode for him. I am pretty much totally convinced now that this arc will end with Kevin ODing at a family function or something, with Randall or Kate finding him. Maybe before the Winter or season finale I also laughed really hard when, as jack was yelling at Kevin, he was like "get out of my sight!" then when Kevin started to leave, he was like "get back here!". It seems like a very parental moment. 28 Link to comment
Amethyst November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said: He may not have had it on the field, but he did have it on Charlotte's lawn, which I thought was actually really well done. So did I. Seeing Kevin begging for help like that was wrenching, and hit a little too close to home. People around can tell he's distracted, but no one sees just how much he's falling apart. Thought the final scene would parallel last season when Randall had the breakdown and Kevin found him. Also confused that Kevin has been around several medical professionals and none of them have a clue about his addiction. Or anything, for that matter. The show kept saying that this would be when Kevin hit rock bottom, so I'm pretty sure they knew what they were doing when it came to "wanna party?" bit. Definitely seemed like Kevin would hook up with the teenage girl instead of Charlotte. And while she's under no obligation, I hope Charlotte sends the necklace back, assuming she has it. At least Kevin realizes that he's been incredibly fortunate in his life. Blessed with athletic talent. Got the girl of his dreams. When football fell through, he got cast in a hit TV show, then a major film. Got a second chance with the dream girl. And so on. Maybe that's why he's so reluctant to ask for help? He already knows he's been given a lot. Or was it seeing his father at a weak moment? Kid Kevin looked like he was going to cry when he saw Jack doing the Serenity prayer. He was so disgusted by Jack so he might not want to end up like him. Again, must give credit to the casting agents, because the younger versions even sound like the older ones. I thought Justin had dubbed his lines over Logan (younger Kevin) at one time. That "These Days" cover was terrible, imo. Should have just used Nico's version. Great episode for Kevin. 13 Link to comment
LadyNebula November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 It a good thing Kevin didn't fill the fake RX. Blatant forgery, and not just because it said 2 refills (again, narcotics get no refills). That plus his sweaty ass? You're screaming "I'm a junkie!" 9 Link to comment
DoItToIt November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 ARGHHH!! No Randall, you don't know everything! So close, Kevin was so close, to his 1st of 12 steps: admittance. Now, without a shadow of doubt, Kevin will go back fading to big brother role, tending to other siblings' needs above his own. As an oldest of many kids and grandkids, this really hits home. 11 Link to comment
methodwriter85 November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, stonehaven said: Oh yeah, forgot to mention, I normally despise the song "Lonesome Loser" by Little River Band....but loved they played it in the context of Kevin walking through the school..even if the musical reference was about ten years out of date. Try nearly 20 years. I love 70's music, but man I really wish this show would explore some of the great stuff that came out of the 90's. "Popular" by Nada Surf would have been a great song for that moment. Or "My Hero" by the Foo Fighters. I'm going to borrow a quote from The Breakfast Club: "But we think you're crazy to make us write an essay telling you who we think we are. What do you care? You see us as you want to see us - in the simplest terms, in the most convenient definitions." Basically, Kevin is seen by his high school and hometown as the Hometown Hero Golden Boy who made good. Nothing, and I mean nothing, was going to make them not see him that way. 19 Link to comment
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