S06.E00: Joseph's Wedding

[AnnaBaptist]

I have perfect vision due to LASIK, but I must say the new dark background on this website makes the content more difficult to read. 

You guys are a blessing, precious, super neat to be able to sit through an entire episode and report back to the rest of us. You have a special calling to witness this tripe.

[lookeyloo]

57 minutes ago, AnnaBaptist said:

I have perfect vision due to LASIK, but I must say the new dark background on this website makes the content more difficult to read. 

You guys are a blessing, precious, super neat to be able to sit through an entire episode and report back to the rest of us. You have a special calling to witness this tripe.

You can change that. I use the sunshine symbol and XL on the bottom of the page. Scroll down and change yours too. 

[Westiepeach]

11 hours ago, lexington11 said:

I feel for her too, because that scene in the bridal shop was heartbreaking. I've never seen a kid her age (9-10ish?) react with those tears to seeing her older sister get married. It's clear that Joy has been more of a mother figure to Jenny than her real mother has.

That's the only reason I remove mine for a photo, because I look absolutely horrible with the flash reflecting off them.

Crap, WE have been more of a mother figure to Jenni than her biological mother ever has.

[ChiCricket]

23 hours ago, Twopper said:

I totally missed this episode, but having read all about it, I almost feel as though I have seen it except I have no idea what a butterfly kiss is.

It probably means something different now than what I knew. It's a fluttering of your eyelashes on another person's cheek. My mom used to give us butterfly kisses when my sisters and  I were little girls, and she came home from a long factory shift and we were already in bed. 

[Jynnan tonnix]

36 minutes ago, ChiCricket said:

It probably means something different now than what I knew. It's a fluttering of your eyelashes on another person's cheek. My mom used to give us butterfly kisses when my sisters and  I were little girls, and she came home from a long factory shift and we were already in bed. 

I haven't seen the episode, but got the impression that they were referring to the song 

[Natalie68]

On 11/6/2017 at 2:33 AM, Mitzi.B said:

You forgot:

- precious

- surreal

WHAT IS IT WITH THIS WORD!?  Sorry I screamed.  They all say it constantly.  Its as though they get engaged and are now allowed to use it but they have to use it X amount of times per episode.  Maybe they are just being nice and setting up our drinking games for us?

On 11/6/2017 at 7:16 AM, Triple P said:

I am so happy to read this! I only need glasses for distance too. I hate wearing them when I eat because it makes the food seem too close to me. I know that sounds weird and my family gently teases me about that. I don't know if you feel that way too, but it is nice to know that I am not the only person who takes their glasses off to eat.

I have glasses for distance (tv and driving, especially at night) and wear readers when I need up close stuff.  I HAVE to take them off for eating.  I started needing readers (a fairly low number, 1.5) about 5 years ago.  I am 49.  

[Sew Sumi]

What's funny with me is for a couple of years I needed glasses for distance, but once I became more age-related far-sighted, my eyes resolved the near-sightedness and began to lean the other way, allowing me to ditch the distance glasses. Now, I can read my phone without glasses, but it's a little blurry. My 1.5 readers do the trick. My eyesight has remained stable at about 20/25 for the last five years or so. 

[xwordfanatik]

37 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

What's funny with me is for a couple of years I needed glasses for distance, but once I became more age-related far-sighted, my eyes resolved the near-sightedness and began to lean the other way, allowing me to ditch the distance glasses. Now, I can read my phone without glasses, but it's a little blurry. My 1.5 readers do the trick. My eyesight has remained stable at about 20/25 for the last five years or so. 

I've also become less nearsighted with age.  I still wear bifocals, but they are way less strong prescription-wise, and more lightweight.

I like the way I look in glasses better than without.  I've never worn contacts; I'm very squeamish about the idea of putting things on my eyeballs.

I wonder if Kendra is pregnant yet?  Hopefully, she won't swell up like poor Joy.  She also seems shortish and not naturally skinny.

[Churchhoney]

10 hours ago, Westiepeach said:

Crap, WE have been more of a mother figure to Jenni than her biological mother ever has.

And Jenny's lost two mothers in short order. First Jill. Now Joy. And now she has none left except the actual mother. Whose eight remaining school-age children plus the number nine guardian child certainly all realize is useless at best. .... Despite the smoke they blow online on her birthday and mother's day. 

Edited November 8, 2017 by Churchhoney

[awaken]

14 hours ago, AnnaBaptist said:

 

You guys are a blessing, precious, super neat to be able to sit through an entire episode and report back to the rest of us. You have a special calling to witness this tripe.

Well, god has laid it on our hearts to do so. I just can't wait to see what he has in store for us snarkers next!

[lexington11]

13 hours ago, Westiepeach said:

Crap, WE have been more of a mother figure to Jenni than her biological mother ever has.

Isn't that the truth...she, Hannie, and Jordyn are done for once Jana finally manages to leave, because the boys will be expected to do absolutely nothing in the house, and her egg donor (because I absolutely refuse to refer to Michelle as a true mom) is too busy spoiling Miracle to focus on her remaining daughters.

[queenanne]

I think the creep factor of Butterfly Kisses derives from the fact that the father expects himself to be the first, if not only, thing his daughter thinks of perpetually, every morning she wakes up or every night she goes to bed...

[bigskygirl]

On ‎10‎/‎24‎/‎2017 at 3:53 PM, Kbo said:

I thought Mullet looked better than normal.  At least her boobs didn't look like they could poke someone's eye out.  But the shoes...HOW in the name of all that's holy can she think those black clunkers go with a floor-length dress?  It seemed odd that Kendra had to go greet her instead of vice versa.  Actually, that's normal for Mullet but weird for anyone else.

Poor Cinderjana having to fix the bride's dress.  Didn't Miss Renee tweet something about adding that layer of her mother's dress at the last minute?  Can't believe she ironed it on.  Unless you're on Project Runway and you've got 10 minutes left, there's no excuse for that.  I really disliked the bottom half of Kendra's dress.  Reminded me of a bunch of tulle napkins stapled onto the skirt.  The top half would have been infinitely more flattering with a modest scoop neck. 

The boys room looked disgusting.  Thank goodness we don't have smell-o-vision because you know that room is ripe.  Speaking of boys, I didn't recognize Justin until they put his name on the screen.  His hair wasn't very Duggar-ish.  Future rebel, perhaps?

It felt like they were trying to avoid showing Anna.  Even when she was fixing the veil they cut her out of the shot.  Wonder if it's because she's so obviously pregnant and they don't want to remind anyone that she went back to Josh?  Good call TLC, no one wants to be reminded that she's had sex with that pasty, revolting waste of humanity.

Those bouquets were a floppy, flaccid, floral fail.  The leaves flapping in the wind were so distracting when the girls were coming down the aisle.

Please, please, PLEASE tell me that they're not going to spend next season on Joe and Kendra's wedding prep.  I can't even see that being interesting enough to snark on.  Was a little surprised they didn't announce Joy's pregnancy during the commercial.  She'll have had the kid before we find out she's pregnant in show time.  Based on the way she looks, we don't have too long to wait.

I had a Princess Bride flashback. 

I choke on the bite of food I took while reading the first two lines. I think God sent me a message because I do not have cable to watch this crap. I must be blessed!

[flyingdi]

On ‎11‎/‎7‎/‎2017 at 10:30 PM, lexington11 said:

Isn't that the truth...she, Hannie, and Jordyn are done for once Jana finally manages to leave, because the boys will be expected to do absolutely nothing in the house, and her egg donor (because I absolutely refuse to refer to Michelle as a true mom) is too busy spoiling Miracle to focus on her remaining daughters.

I don't know.  I think I feel sorry the most for Josie.  I think she did have Mom's attention longer than anybody, but I think that's faded now.  I think her brothers and sisters aren't that fond of her.  I think poor  little Josie is going to end up the most lost of the Lost Girls.

[mynextmistake]

12 hours ago, flyingdi said:

I don't know.  I think I feel sorry the most for Josie.  I think she did have Mom's attention longer than anybody, but I think that's faded now.  I think her brothers and sisters aren't that fond of her.  I think poor  little Josie is going to end up the most lost of the Lost Girls.

We also know that a huge percentage of micropremies have developmental delays or chronic medical problems that persist into adolescence or adulthood. Josie has a seizure disorder and frankly, she doesn’t present either cognitively or physically as a normally-developing 7-year-old.   We have seen the negative effects that Jim Bob and Michelle‘s parenting has had even on their normally-developing children. Letting Josie run wild like some kind of feral creature rather than provide the nurturing and support services she needs in order to function as a normal adult is unconscionable, because the effects will be far worse for her.

[Bridget]

8 minutes ago, mynextmistake said:

We also know that a huge percentage of micropremies have developmental delays or chronic medical problems that persist into adolescence or adulthood. Josie has a seizure disorder and frankly, she doesn’t present either cognitively or physically as a normally-developing 7-year-old.   We have seen the negative effects that Jim Bob and Michelle‘s parenting has had even on their normally-developing children. Letting Josie run wild like some kind of feral creature rather than provide the nurturing and support services she needs in order to function as a normal adult is unconscionable, because the effects will be far worse for her.

You're spot on and I couldn't agree with you more!

Is she 7 already? Wow! From watching her on "Counting On" as well as her behavior and physical appearance/development (or lack thereof), I'd have guessed she was maybe 5 at the oldest. 

What makes this even more upsetting is that she will need so much more help than Michelle and Jim Bob Jana can give her. Even though Josie is home schooled, she is still eligible for services by way of their local school district that any public school student receives, like speech therapy and occupational therapy, which I suspect she is long overdue for.  

You can't "pray away" the medical issues and other cognitive/behavior deficits that she has. She will have some serious benchmarks and milestones to overcome in addition to trying to catch up on all of her missed benchmarks and milestones. That's a lot of work that only a trained professional can do, with support and reinforcement from the parents. I only hope (and pray) that the egg & sperm donor get her the same degree of medical/professional help that Josie initially received when she was born. 

[lookeyloo]

Re Josie. Even if they acknowledge to themselves and not the world in general that there are issues maybe they think with such a big family one of the siblings will take her in once JB and M are not able. Maybe they will be a "3 fer" that rotates among the grown kids. Or Jana and JD will live in the TTH and take care of the three of them. 

[floridamom]

The Duggars MIGHT agree with some intervention with Josie IF the therapist is their kid of 'christian', attends a similar church and doesn't really work for the public school system. That is how they approach all their out of the house needs....which really means, that Josie will never receive the proper and appropriate help she needs, whatever it may be.

[Abstract]

I think Josie will be 8 next month. 

Edited November 10, 2017 by Abstract

[Absolom]

Josie had some kind of therapy when she was younger.  Michelle briefly mentioned it in passing in perhaps an interview.  They chose not to show it on TV or the therapist did not want to be filmed.  To get therapy through the school district the child is evaluated and must be sufficiently below standards to qualify.  

[Bridget]

1 hour ago, Absolom said:

Josie had some kind of therapy when she was younger.  Michelle briefly mentioned it in passing in perhaps an interview.  They chose not to show it on TV or the therapist did not want to be filmed.  To get therapy through the school district the child is evaluated and must be sufficiently below standards to qualify.  

With all due respect, is this something that you are familiar with? 

I'm a teacher, certified K-12 in two subjects & have both my GenEd and SpEd credentials.

At least in California, Josie doesn't have to be sufficiently below standards to be eligible for speech language services. The earlier any speech deficit is corrected, no matter the issue (trouble with "r", difficulty speaking in complete sentences of word order placement to show comprehension & cognitive abilities), parents or guardians should make sure that their student has access and attends sessions as advised by the specialists at the school district. 

Unfortunately in CA,  private schools (where the Duggars would likely seek advice) do not recognize IEPs nor are they legally required to adhere to them. Most private schools do not employ any teachers with SpEd credentials because students who do require services typically have parents that are very aware of the needs and make sure their student gets the support they are legally allowed to have.

[Absolom]

The Duggars are in AR not CA and the resources in AR are limited.  I do have friends who have been through the process in AR and are continuing to have difficulties.  Since Josie attends only Duggar Academy, the CA in-school process isn't the model they would be following.   What they would face is similar to what you seem to recognize a bit in your last paragraph.  I so often see people think the Duggars have only to request therapy and it will fall in their laps when at least what I've been told by parents in AR is not what happens.   

Also for whatever it's worth, I had a seven year old who couldn't pronounce several sounds correctly and that child was denied speech therapy at school because the problem was "not severe enough."  Fortunately, we were able to enroll the child in an alternate program.  

Edited November 10, 2017 by Absolom

[Bridget]

41 minutes ago, Absolom said:

The Duggars are in AR not CA and the resources in AR are limited.  I do have friends who have been through the process in AR and are continuing to have difficulties.  Since Josie attends only Duggar Academy, the CA in-school process isn't the model they would be following.   What they would face is similar to what you seem to recognize a bit in your last paragraph.  I so often see people think the Duggars have only to request therapy and it will fall in their laps when at least what I've been told by parents in AR is not what happens.   

Also for whatever it's worth, I had a seven year old who couldn't pronounce several sounds correctly and that child was denied speech therapy at school because the problem was "not severe enough."  Fortunately, we were able to enroll the child in an alternate program.  

While I do know not every state is equal, please know that it hurts my heart to know that your district failed you. I'm really glad you fought for your seven year old and didn't just take the district's word for it. You knew, as their parent, what your student needed and the importance of time. I really wish more parents were like you and were aware of what their rights/options are to getting their student the resources they need.

in CA, when it comes to the law, there's not a lot we can say to parents/guardians when we suspect a student is eligible for services (I can spot ADHD a mile away, but cannot share concerns with parents/guardians!) because teachers, not the school or district, then become the responsible party for everything from the doctors' fees to medication to therapy if the parent wants to pursue that option.

As you well know, but for those who do not, it's a multi-step process to get to the point of having a student actually be evaluated (tested) for eligibility for services (having an IEP, getting resource support/help at school). Parents have to initiate the request in writing, then the school has X days to reply, then it's another X days for parents to consent, then the specialists/testing folks have to clear their calendars. Next thing you know, four months have gone by before anyone knows who's on first. I do think it's something that more parents should pursue as it makes the life of a student so much easier when they have the support/services they need to succeed. The bad news is that there isn't enough money is any district's budget to employ a full time Speech & Language Pathologist (or other trained professionals that students desperately need), which makes the "line to see the SLP" even longer. It is so sad.

That said, we know the Duggars most likely won't make a move to get Josie the help she needs. The Duggar Academy will probably have some fabulous curriculum for dealing with speech issues and/or other potential impediments to the development of students who have deficits. I'm so curious to wonder what Josie will be like even five years from now.

[Absolom]

22 minutes ago, Bridget said:

While I do know not every state is equal, please know that it hurts my heart to know that your district failed you. I'm really glad you fought for your seven year old and didn't just take the district's word for it. You knew, as their parent, what your student needed and the importance of time. I really wish more parents were like you and were aware of what their rights/options are to getting their student the resources they need.

Thank you!  We decided after the fact that they had done us a favor.  As you said there can be quite a wait for services even if approved and we ended up at a university clinic where the service was excellent and there was no waiting list.  Our child also has synesthesia which was a bit of a zebra and resulted in our not having to pay anything since it fell under a research grant.   While the therapy was provided by a couple of graduate students they were interested, well trained, and well supervised.

[mynextmistake]

4 hours ago, Absolom said:

Josie had some kind of therapy when she was younger.  Michelle briefly mentioned it in passing in perhaps an interview.  They chose not to show it on TV or the therapist did not want to be filmed.  To get therapy through the school district the child is evaluated and must be sufficiently below standards to qualify.  

Sure, but Josie might easily be below standards enough to qualify for services. My daughter is 2 and has gross-motor and speech delays. She functions at a level well above that which Josie functioned at when she was two, IIRC, but she easily qualified for services through our state-run early intervention program. The services aren’t great, but they’re something.  I don’t think it so much that people think Jim Bob and Michelle could just walk into the school district and get services for Josie. I think it’s more that people are frustrated that they don’t even seem to be pursuing those services. Maybe they’re doing it off screen; if so, that’s great. 

[floridamom]

All I have to do is look back in Duggar history and see what it was that Jana was doing at almost 8 years old....that's all I need.

Josie is NO WHERE near anything Jana was saddled with. Is Josie cooking on the stove standing on a stool to stir a bit hot pot for dinner? Certainly not.

[lexington11]

18 hours ago, Bridget said:

You're spot on and I couldn't agree with you more!

Is she 7 already? Wow! From watching her on "Counting On" as well as her behavior and physical appearance/development (or lack thereof), I'd have guessed she was maybe 5 at the oldest. 

What makes this even more upsetting is that she will need so much more help than Michelle and Jim Bob Jana can give her. Even though Josie is home schooled, she is still eligible for services by way of their local school district that any public school student receives, like speech therapy and occupational therapy, which I suspect she is long overdue for.  

You can't "pray away" the medical issues and other cognitive/behavior deficits that she has. She will have some serious benchmarks and milestones to overcome in addition to trying to catch up on all of her missed benchmarks and milestones. That's a lot of work that only a trained professional can do, with support and reinforcement from the parents. I only hope (and pray) that the egg & sperm donor get her the same degree of medical/professional help that Josie initially received when she was born. 

No joke. I think Callie Bates is around her age, or a little older, and that girl is very articulate in all her TH segments. And same thing with Mackynzie...she's a month or two older than Josie, and every time she was featured on the TH, she spoke a lot better than Josie. So there's definitely delays there that are not being addressed by MOY Michelle, and I doubt Jana was educated enough to be able to pick up on the signs of delay that Josie shows.

[luvmylabs]

On 11/6/2017 at 8:38 PM, Twopper said:

Okay, so butterfly kisses are with your eyelashes and there is a country song about it. Who knew?  Well, obviously a lot of people.  And they played it when ???? in the middle of the wedding service?  not for daughter-father dance?  I guess it is okay for the dance, although I am more of a "Sunrise, sunset" type of gal.   I guess it is just as well I missed this as I really just cannot stand the Duggar parents at all. 

Well, my daughter had Butterfly Kisses played for her father/daughter dance.  I hadn't heard of it before that!  My dad and I danced to "Daddy's Little Girl".  I guess all of these are kind of sappy, but I still tear up at that part of the wedding.  My cousin had a foot amputated and was in a wheelchair.  His daughter sat on his lap and they twirled around the room.  It was sweet.  Special relationship usually between fathers and daughters.

[AnnaBaptist]

On 11/7/2017 at 8:29 AM, lookeyloo said:

You can change that. I use the sunshine symbol and XL on the bottom of the page. Scroll down and change yours too. 

Thank you so much! Very helpful.

[asuwur]

On 11/10/2017 at 7:57 AM, floridamom said:

The Duggars MIGHT agree with some intervention with Josie IF the therapist is their kid of 'christian', attends a similar church and doesn't really work for the public school system. That is how they approach all their out of the house needs....which really means, that Josie will never receive the proper and appropriate help she needs, whatever it may be.

AND doesn't have a license...that is absolutely non-negotiable. No one with a license or certification can be involved in the care of Duggar offspring, if at all possible except in the event of birth plans gone awry.

[LeslieYep]

On 11/6/2017 at 10:01 PM, lexington11 said:

I feel for her too, because that scene in the bridal shop was heartbreaking. I've never seen a kid her age (9-10ish?) react with those tears to seeing her older sister get married. It's clear that Joy has been more of a mother figure to Jenny than her real mother has.

That's the only reason I remove mine for a photo, because I look absolutely horrible with the flash reflecting off them.

I agree, like it's great to have the buddy system and to have Joy as a support for Jenny, but there is definitely a role that Michelle should have in Jenny's life. I also feel bad for Joy because it shouldn't be her responsibility to be the mother figure to Jenny. 

[Bridget]

7 minutes ago, LeslieYep said:

I agree, like it's great to have the buddy system and to have Joy as a support for Jenny, but there is definitely a role that Michelle should have in Jenny's life. I also feel bad for Joy because it shouldn't be her responsibility to be the mother figure to Jenny. 

Now that all of the "older girls" are married and away, except for Jana-Who-Deserves-A-Break-From-Raising-Her-Siblings, Michelle really SHOULD step up and be a mother to the "younger girls." That said, how bittersweet would it be if they rejected her to a degree? Along the lines of "...you weren't here for us when Jill, Jessa, Jinger and Joy were here, so why are you here now?"

I'm not hoping/wishing that the younger ones are feel resentment toward their mother, but I don't know of any other adjectives or emotions to correctly label what they might possibly feel as they now enter their teenage years without their "mom-buddies" (Jana through Joy). It's something I wondered about for a long time when this family first appeared on television, after being made aware of the "buddy system" and knowing that the older girls would eventually marry & move out. Joy getting married so young did shock me, but if anything, it was probably a blessing in disguise as it might have "forced Michelle's hand" in that now she has no choice but to step up and be a mother to her girls... and pray Jana doesn't meet anyone and leaves them high and dry!

In all seriousness, I feel awful for Jana. Her scenes on TV feel so awkward, as if she'd rather be anywhere than in that house and around those people.

[floridamom]

It baffles me to this day as to how it was that Michelle had never thought of the future regarding her older daughters marrying and what affect it would have on the younger children. She had to know, but didn't really care, about the bond that would naturally form between the younger ones and their buddies. Those older daughters weren't just some 'buddy' who put their shoes on for them, but they provided all of the emotional and corporal needs of those younger siblings....naturally, a motherly attachment would form. It wasn't normal at all, IMO, for Jenny to have gotten so upset when Jill, then Joy married. Michelle, truly is a selfish idiot. No, I take that back, she is a smart calculating woman...someone who knew how to look out just for herself in life and it worked. Sadly, at the expense of her children. MOTY? I don't think so.

[Bridget]

1 hour ago, floridamom said:

It baffles me to this day as to how it was that Michelle had never thought of the future regarding her older daughters marrying and what affect it would have on the younger children. She had to know, but didn't really care, about the bond that would naturally form between the younger ones and their buddies. Those older daughters weren't just some 'buddy' who put their shoes on for them, but they provided all of the emotional and corporal needs of those younger siblings....naturally, a motherly attachment would form. It wasn't normal at all, IMO, for Jenny to have gotten so upset when Jill, then Joy married. Michelle, truly is a selfish idiot. No, I take that back, she is a smart calculating woman...someone who knew how to look out just for herself in life and it worked. Sadly, at the expense of her children. MOTY? I don't think so.

Sooooooo True!!!!!

 

Makes me wonder how screwed up the boys will be since the only normal one we have seen, Joseph, is now gone and married. John David seems SO off to me - can't put my finger on it, but he is so odd and definitely not someone the younger boys should look to as a mentor.

Maybe I am biased because JD lost out BIG time in the looks department! I know that is not what makes a good leader, but the older set of male twins are so good looking. I hope we see more of them instead of boring JD.

Josiah needs some Accutane or something because he used to be pretty handsome, but his skin has not appeared to clear up much in the last few years.

Edited November 14, 2017 by Bridget
typos

[floridamom]

RE: Josiah's skin not clearing up:  He needs a real 'good date" ...that will fix him up right away, like Jinger's complexion , it cleared up nicely, most likely due to 'good sandwich making' and birth control.

[Sew Sumi]

Be careful. We have no proof Jinger is on birth control. Jeremy could be wrapping it up. Bottom line is that we don't know, and frankly it's none of our business beyond cheering her non-pregnant state.

[floridamom]

OK, I don't know definitively what measures, IF ANY, the Duggalos are taking to avoid being parents at this time...so I will have to say, making sandwiches with Jeremy, has done her complexion some good.

[mynextmistake]

On 11/14/2017 at 0:18 PM, floridamom said:

OK, I don't know definitively what measures, IF ANY, the Duggalos are taking to avoid being parents at this time...so I will have to say, making sandwiches with Jeremy, has done her complexion some good.

Having sex does nothing for your skin. I think Jinger is probably eating a healthier diet and taking better care of her skin now that she’s allowed to buy real skin-care products instead of having to use the communal tub of whatever off-brand “cleanser” they had at the TTH.

[Bridget]

On 11/18/2017 at 10:03 PM, mynextmistake said:

Having sex does nothing for your skin.

I think Jinger is probably eating a healthier diet and taking better care of her skin now that she’s allowed to buy real skin-care products instead of having to use the communal tub of whatever off-brand “cleanser” they had at the TTH.

Jinger also probably able to launder her sheets/pillowcases/linens more regularly, or at least keep the germ count down since she's not sharing a room with 5 other people.

I'm not an 24/7 hand sanitizing freak or a "don't touch me because I don't want your germs" person at all (I kiss my dog on the mouth. That's right. And I admit it!), but she's probably also living in an overall cleaner home now with only one other person, instead of living at house that could possibly double for sleep-a-way camp! From the clear plastic pitchers of water to the cups they use to the "dining room seating" to the industrial dishwasher/stove/oven, it looks exactly like the dining area of a sleep-a-way camp!

Buying good skin care products are definitely part of it too - I agree 100%

I have no idea what TTH is short for.

Can anyone help me out please? Many thanks in advance!

[ChiCricket]

29 minutes ago, Bridget said:

I have no idea what TTH is short for.

Can anyone help me out please? Many thanks in advance!

Tinker Toy House (put together with a kit) :)

[Bridget]

1 hour ago, ChiCricket said:

Tinker Toy House (put together with a kit) :)

You're the best! (As is everyone else here!) Thank you thank you!

[Westiepeach]

15 hours ago, ChiCricket said:

Tinker Toy House (put together with a kit) :)

Isn't it also short for Tater Tot House? In honor of The Tater Tot Casserole? I think it can go either way.

[kokapetl]

Also TontiTown House

[Quof]

Quote

Having sex does nothing for your skin.

But birth control pills do.

[xwordfanatik]

1 hour ago, Quof said:

But birth control pills do.

You are right!  When I took the pill for a few years in the 70's, my skin looked great.  When I went off of them, I had breakouts for a while.

[funky-rat]

On ‎11‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 10:44 AM, luvmylabs said:

Well, my daughter had Butterfly Kisses played for her father/daughter dance.  I hadn't heard of it before that!  My dad and I danced to "Daddy's Little Girl".  I guess all of these are kind of sappy, but I still tear up at that part of the wedding.  My cousin had a foot amputated and was in a wheelchair.  His daughter sat on his lap and they twirled around the room.  It was sweet.  Special relationship usually between fathers and daughters.

I flat-out refused to have Daddy's Little Girl, because I wasn't.  My dad and I didn't get along well until I was in college.  Then his attitude changed with regards to me.  I'm not sure what the issue was, and it's not worth going back and re-hashing.  The DJ picked "You're The Biggest Part Of Me" after I vetoed "Daddy's Little Girl", and I was happy with that.

"Butterfly Kisses" was always to maudlin for my taste.

[Catlyn]

On 10/24/2017 at 2:54 PM, Petrichor said:

Butterfly Kisses" is a the grossest song ever written by the hand of man. It puts the "die" in "fundie."

Well, at least you know it's never going to be 'The Men in My Little Girl's Life.'   I don't know how many will remember that song.

[Barb23]

My sister's friends had "Yesterday" (Beatles)as their first dance years ago. Not quite a wedding song. And yes, the marriage ended in divorce.

[KariLois]

I don’t care how handsome Pastor Caldwell is.  He is virulently anti LGBT

[KariLois]

I am watching this mess right now and am so creeped out by the daddy’s little girl shit.  It is deeply unsettling.

Edited February 4, 2018 by KariLois