Season 5 Discussion

[Jeanne222]

I don't believe I've heard Evelyn sing.  Is she any good?  Maybe I missed that!

When they showed older scenes with Nicol I noticed she looked puffy.  So maybe she is trying.  I think she needs some help.  She needs somebody to help her with diet and exercise.  She is a beautiful young woman.

I think her issues with food and diet are deep rooted.

Wouldn't it be nice if the show helped her on that journey to health!

[Sprockets]

8 hours ago, millennium said:

Question: did Nicole suck down the drink in front of May before she started on her own?   Or did poor, disgusted May just pick it up and knock it back herself?

We will never know.  The good news is it is nearly certain those drinks were nonalcoholic, being served in a public place in a Muslim country.  

[Drogo]

The show has not mentioned or hinted at anyone's criminal history other than Andrei. 

No social media in episode threads.  This isn't a new rule. 

[jackjill89]

Evelyn's insistence on her dream wedding and the tuxes showed how incredibly immature she is. She wants a wedding, not a marriage. She wants a picture perfect experience, but she is absolutely not cut out for a long-term relationship with this man. I really hope David runs before the 90 days. He will be miserable with this girl. 

Again, Elizabeth's video on her phone made her look like a completely different person. It is really bizarre how different she looks. Obviously she doesn't know her fiancé. None of them do. I would like to know some REAL experiences of sane people who marry someone from another country. Someone they've known for more than 1 minute.

[Sprockets]

13 minutes ago, jackjill89 said:

Evelyn's insistence on her dream wedding and the tuxes showed how incredibly immature she is.

I bet she has a girly vision of her wedding night, too.  Ha ha ha.  

[Bryce Lynch]

4 minutes ago, jackjill89 said:

Evelyn's insistence on her dream wedding and the tuxes showed how incredibly immature she is. She wants a wedding, not a marriage. She wants a picture perfect experience, but she is absolutely not cut out for a long-term relationship with this man. I really hope David runs before the 90 days. He will be miserable with this girl. 

Again, Elizabeth's video on her phone made her look like a completely different person. It is really bizarre how different she looks. Obviously she doesn't know her fiancé. None of them do. I would like to know some REAL experiences of sane people who marry someone from another country. Someone they've known for more than 1 minute.

I don't think a woman wanting a dream wedding and a strong marriage are in any way mutually exclusive.  Most women I have known had certain expectations for their weddings, and $500 for tuxedos is at the low end of the wedding extravagence scale.

Tuxedos are traditional for weddings in the Northeast USA.  I don't see why traditions of American brides should be seen as frivolous while those of foreign brides must be honored.  The tuxedos are a lot less expensive than all the gold and buffaloes Annie insisted on.

[Drogo]

7 hours ago, Bryce Lynch said:

I don't see why traditions of American brides should be seen as frivolous while those of foreign brides must be honored. The tuxedos are a lot less expensive than all the gold and buffaloes Annie insisted on.

Both are ripe for criticism.  I personally have a hard time equating the buffalo with the tuxedo because one helps support a family for years while the other gives the wearer a rash and needs to be returned the next day.  Also, these are demands on wedding guests as opposed to a demand on the groom.  

[Sprockets]

1 hour ago, Drogo said:

  I personally have a hard time equating the buffalo with the tuxedo

You'd think differently if you wore a size 44 long.  

 

[ChristmasJones]

When this show started, it was driving me crazy because Evelyn reminded me of someone I had seen before, but for the life of me I could  not remember who. Then someone upthread mentioned Jessica Pare - YES that is it!!!!

I think its their smile/teeth that are so similar

Jessica Pare:

[spankydoll]

59 minutes ago, ChristmasJones said:

When this show started, it was driving me crazy because Evelyn reminded me of someone I had seen before, but for the life of me I could  not remember who. Then someone upthread mentioned Jessica Pare - YES that is it!!!!

I think its their smile/teeth that are so similar

Jessica Pare:

Jessica is stunning! So incrdible in Mad Men. Evelyn looks more like Anne Hathaway in some rom com that starts out with a girl getting the worst haircut ever by a rival but still manages to find love with the owner of a chain of hat stores. 

[Meowwww]

On 10/30/2017 at 4:58 PM, Lemons said:

I don't agree. Her mother is a grown women.  Her mother is obviously hard working and successful. She is entitled to a happy life. She is entitled to make her own decisions regarding her life. People with children get married all the time. Blended families happen every day.  The fact that he's Hispanic and younger seems to be the problem and that's too bad.  

 Olivia seems to be intentionally rude, maybe for the cameras. 

Olivia will be out on her own soon, away to college or a job. Her little sister, more importantly, is thrilled with the company. 

Mine was five. Luckily I didn't care about judgy people.  She's a calm kid who loved that thing and it didn't bother me. 

Totally agree.  Single parents deserve a relationship.  I think these days everyone is so kid-centric that people tend to fall on the “poor kid” thing. 

I am old at 46.  My European parents were unhappily married and stayed so, but had they split, in NO WAY would they even ask my opinion on a relationship. 

Reminds me of the shows on HGTV where the kids must approve of the house the parents pick.  It’s just not how my generation was raised. 

[PamelaMaeSnap]

5 hours ago, Drogo said:

I personally have a hard time equating the buffalo with the tuxedo because one helps support a family for years while the other gives the wearer a rash and needs to be returned the next day.

Drogo, will you please accept this slightly wilted rose and ring from Neil Lane that is on 60-day layaway ... sorry, wrong show ...

I have to admit that I am slightly surprised that Speshul Snowflake is so incredibly blatant in her desire for "the wedding of her dreams" (i.e., one day out of what should for all intents and purposes be the next 50 years minimum) over even PRETENDING to actually give AF about what he wants until she has him under lock and key (to the chastity belt) ...

In fact, I'm surprised she's even signed up for "90 DAY FIANCE/E" since I'd have thought she'd want to be the special bride-to-be for WAY more than just 90 days where she can wave around her magic wand and plan the big day and have everyone cater to her whims and also clone herself so she can be the wedding singer at her own wedding, etc. ... She's be so much better suited to something like "Bridezillas" or "Say Yes To The Dress" or any of the TLC etc. bridal shows.

Edited November 4, 2017 by PamelaMaeSnap

[Drogo]

Replying in Small Talk. 

[jackjill89]

6 hours ago, Bryce Lynch said:

I don't think a woman wanting a dream wedding and a strong marriage are in any way mutually exclusive.  Most women I have known had certain expectations for their weddings, and $500 for tuxedos is at the low end of the wedding extravagence scale.

Tuxedos are traditional for weddings in the Northeast USA.  I don't see why traditions of American brides should be seen as frivolous while those of foreign brides must be honored.  The tuxedos are a lot less expensive than all the gold and buffaloes Annie insisted on.

Yes, but I bet they didn't sit there demanding and telling their fiance it was going to be her way or the highway. That is immature. Successful couples discuss things, they don't dictate things. She screams Bridezilla. She doesn't seem to care about anyone's wants or needs but her own. 

Tuxes are tradition, I get that, but she should be a lot more understanding of David's friends who are already spending thousands of dollars to be at the wedding. 

[Arwen Evenstar]

33 minutes ago, jackjill89 said:

Tuxes are tradition, I get that, but she should be a lot more understanding of David's friends who are already spending thousands of dollars to be at the wedding. 

 But, here’s a fun fact, this is Murica.

Where did that little snippet get her “fun fact” from?  Sounds like something she was told when not behaving as a kid.  

Even if Evelyn ends up getting her way, a fun fact for her is that she should consider David’s feelings.

[jackjill89]

1 hour ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

 But, here’s a fun fact, this is Murica.

Where did that little snippet get her “fun fact” from?  Sounds like something she was told when not behaving as a kid.  

Even if Evelyn ends up getting her way, a fun fact for her is that she should consider David’s feelings.

I don't know, but I was very happy when he used it right back at her. 

She's just insufferable. 

[Jeanne222]

Evelyn and David could 'go Dugger' and just wear shirts and bow ties!  Lol

[guilfoyleatpp]

12 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

I don't believe I've heard Evelyn sing.  Is she any good?  Maybe I missed that!

She has a unique voice, although I suspect that it's affected and not her natural singing voice.

[Lemons]

6 hours ago, Meowwww said:

Totally agree.  Single parents deserve a relationship.  I think these days everyone is so kid-centric that people tend to fall on the “poor kid” thing. 

I am old at 46.  My European parents were unhappily married and stayed so, but had they split, in NO WAY would they even ask my opinion on a relationship. 

Reminds me of the shows on HGTV where the kids must approve of the house the parents pick.  It’s just not how my generation was raised. 

You're not old, you're only a couple of years older than Molly and she is certainly not ready for retirement!   Not long from now her children will have their own lives, their own loved ones.  Why should she be alone?  

[Arwen Evenstar]

1 hour ago, Jeanne222 said:

Evelyn and David could 'go Dugger' and just wear shirts and bow ties!  Lol

And, I’m sure Evelyn had a ratty pair of brown sandals and a pilly pile of rags she picks up off the floor.

[bethster2000]

On 11/4/2017 at 7:10 AM, Sprockets said:

The good news is it is nearly certain those drinks were nonalcoholic, being served in a public place in a Muslim country.  

The reddish-pink ones?  They looked refreshing and yummy!  This show has truly solidified my need to go to Morocco as soon as I can swing it financially.

[spankydoll]

23 hours ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

She has a unique voice, although I suspect that it's affected and not her natural singing voice.

I would describe her voice as mediocre karaoke Tori Amos. She's not awful.  

[Mercolleen]

Fun fact: Just because someone is from Thailand doesn't mean that they'll give you a Thai massage out by the pool. 

[Desert Rat]

About Elizabeth, my 17 year old son said, "Wow, that girl looks soooo much better without a crap ton of make up.  Why all that lipstick?"   

[deedee2]

15 minutes ago, Mercolleen said:

Fun fact: Just because someone is from Thailand doesn't mean that they'll give you a Thai massage out by the pool. 

That was really creepy. I kept looking at that guy's wife for a reaction, but she was totally poker-faced. Gaaah!

Azan comes off so gentle and soft-spoken, but I keep getting a menacing feeling about his and Nicole's interactions.

Edited November 6, 2017 by deedee2

[CofCinci]

I thought it was inappropriate for Luis to aggressively tell the little girl that he is her new dad.

[Desert Rat]

1 minute ago, CofCinci said:

I thought it was inappropriate for Luis to aggressively tell the little girl that he is her new dad.

It was beyond inappropriate. It's psychological abuse. The child said repeatedly she already has a dad. Luis needs to leave the child alone. 

[For Cereals]

I kept waiting for the uncomfortable laughter and the "ha ha just kidding" after the massage request...and it didn't come.  I'm surprised the wife didn't haul off and slap him after that.  That was beyond inappropriate.

[LisaWl7TR]

6 minutes ago, deedee2 said:

That was really creepy. I kept looking at that guy's wife for a reaction, but she was totally poker-faced. Gaaah!

Azan comes off so gentle and soft-spoken, but I keep getting a menacing feeling about his and Nicole's interactions.

So did Mo in the beginning.

[CofCinci]

1 minute ago, Desert Rat said:

It was beyond inappropriate. It's psychological abuse. The child said repeatedly she already has a dad. Luis needs to leave the child alone. 

Furthermore, he had a satisfied grin when the little girl ran off upset.  Is he trying to get her to avoid him?

[TigerLily20]

4 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

I thought it was inappropriate for Luis to aggressively tell the little girl that he is her new dad.

I felt so also.....plus he's watching this child after only knowing her for a week since the Mom works all the time.....just weird.....uggg

 

and don't get me started on creepy guy asking for a massage.........nooooo....just no

[CofCinci]

1 minute ago, For Cereals said:

I kept waiting for the uncomfortable laughter and the "ha ha just kidding" after the massage request...and it didn't come.  I'm surprised the wife didn't haul off and slap him after that.  That was beyond inappropriate.

Given the wife's non-reaction, I figured this was a faked scene that was plotted out by both couples off camera.

[Turquoise]

Boy, Evelyn is a spoiled little bitch, isn't she? Anything is suggested that SHE doesn't want, and it's lip out and stare at her lap..."Stop talking about it, I'm getting angry."

Run, David run! Having a New Hampshire virgin is not worth it. Go back to Spain and enjoy your life.

[annewithaneee]

That welcome party for David was a lot for me to take in.

My main thought? It was hilariously rude of the editors to cue the whimsical circus music at the arrival of Aunt Ginger. We get it, she has chins on chins on chins, but still, rude. 

Also, tip for David: if you actually want Mikayla to form a good impression of you, try expressing any emotion, preferably remorse or concern (but even a "yeeesh this is awkward" grimace) when she's driven to tears in front of you, partially by you. Poor, poor Mikayla. She deserves much better.

Also also, I liked Evelyn's mom's makeup tonight. It took years off her, and made me wonder if it was unflattering or no makeup in previous scenes that made me give her the side-eye. She didn't look nearly as much like a cradlerobber standing next to fundie Dave Grohl tonight.

[LisaWl7TR]

2 minutes ago, For Cereals said:

I kept waiting for the uncomfortable laughter and the "ha ha just kidding" after the massage request...and it didn't come.  I'm surprised the wife didn't haul off and slap him after that.  That was beyond inappropriate.

She may cook Thai dinner but no dessert!

[annewithaneee]

Oh my god, the back of Nicole's cardigan!! Somebody didn't tell her the paint on a wall was still mostly wet. Kudos to all the people who didn't give her a head's up about that.

[poeticlicensed]

Wow Andrei is such an asshole. 

Speaking of assholes, David was such a jerk toward mykayla. I was lol over his suggestion that they move to virginia and her instant pout at the suggestion. 

Azan's family seemed so nice. Nicole doesn't deserve it. Nicole asking Azan if they could share a room was beyond inappropriate. Nicole was eating Mac and cheese BTW. I mean seriously, you are in a country with fabulous food and you eat Mac and cheese. Sheesh.

Edited November 6, 2017 by poeticlicensed

[deedee2]

1 minute ago, CofCinci said:

Given the wife's non-reaction, I figured this was a faked scene that was plotted out by both couples off camera.

That's what I thought, too. Manufactured awkward moment to add tension. I mean, honestly ... it's not natural for the wife to sit there unfazed after her husband just asked his best friend's fiance for a rub-down. Come on now.

[poeticlicensed]

3 minutes ago, deedee2 said:

That's what I thought, too. Manufactured awkward moment to add tension. I mean, honestly ... it's not natural for the wife to sit there unfazed after her husband just asked his best friend's fiance for a rub-down. Come on now.

Plus it plays into every Thai stereotype. Yes all Thai women are massage experts. 

[Desert Rat]

Azan, taking a child a few outings does NOT make you a daddy.  

[CSunshine76]

What on earth was with David Poor's friend asking for cooking and massages by the pool?  What are he and David planning here - are they planning on pimping Annie out or something?  That was all kinds of awkward.  The wife just sits there.  And they are all going to live together? What? Something is very suspect with this situation. 

 

Nicole and Azan...I will NEVER understand.  Azan, a green card is not worth dealing with that child.  Nicole needs therapy STAT.  And she is so disrespectful of his culture...begging him to ask his Aunt to let them room together.  But then tells him he's can't live with her because her Dad says so.  Respect goes both ways ya dummy.

Edited November 6, 2017 by CSunshine76
eta - another thought

[spankydoll]

Buy her a Porsche.  Hahahaha

Azan needs to send Nicolle home. She is a terrible person. A sociopath. 

 

Fun fact. I am flying to California on Jet Blue Mint class. I am sitting next to a twenty something and we are both drinking sparkling rose and watching 90 DF. Lol. What a country we live in! 

Edited November 6, 2017 by spankydoll

[Mercolleen]

AIKA'S EYEBROWS.

That is all.

[CofCinci]

Aika comes off the plane with Louis Vuitton purse and Louboutin heels (knockoffs?) --- and asks for the Porsche..... Yeah, she's going to love sharing a house with loser Josh.

(Also, I'm 75% convinced that Josh is actually Chris Lilley and I'm watching a sneak peek of his next HBO series.)

Edited November 6, 2017 by CofCinci

[Adeejay]

Azan told Nicole time and time again that in Morocco, it is against the law for two single people to cohabitate and yet, she continued to insist that they break the law.  I felt second hand embarrassment for Azan having to ask his aunt if they could share a room. 

I believe Elizabeth is in for a world of hurt with Andrei.  I believe there is something he isn’t telling her.

 David’s friend had a lot of nerve asking Annie to give him Thai massages.  What a jerk!

I don’t understand how these unemployed Americans with nary a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of, are qualifying for fiancé visas. 

[annewithaneee]

6 minutes ago, Mercolleen said:

AIKA'S EYEBROWS.

That is all.

They ALMOST distracted me from her contacts. Almost. But those contacts were also a lot. And her wonky lashes in the interview; I feel like staring at her face is going to be Anfisa-levels of engrossing.

[spankydoll]

Evelyn is the worst. The worst. That dumb trick is going to pay international postage for her stupid RSVP cards. Is Claremont stuck in the 90's???

[Frozendiva]

Evelyn think Eventbrite! 

[deedee2]

6 minutes ago, CSunshine76 said:

What on earth was with David Poor's friend asking for cooking and massages by the pool?  What are he and David planning here - are they planning on pimping Annie out or something?  That was all kinds of awkward.  The wife just sits there.  And they are all going to live together? What? Something is very suspect with this situation. 

 

David and Annie are actually pretty normal and boring on their own. Living with the best friends will provide loads of conflict, no doubt.

I love how it started with, "our house is your house. What's ours is yours until you can get back on your feet", and quickly moved to, "well, maybe you can contribute by cooking Thai food and giving me massages by the pool", and then went to, "we don't want you to get too dependent on us and get too comfortable, because the goal is to move you out!" ?

[mamadrama]

23 minutes ago, Turquoise said:

 

Run, David run! Having a New Hampshire virgin is not worth it. Go back to Spain and enjoy your life.

There are Kentucky virgins who would happily host his family and friends. Maybe it's a mountain/southern thing.