Season 2 Discussion

[GracieK]

43 minutes ago, Swim mom said:

I remember reading an article about how banking is difficult for legitimate pot employees because, if I remember correctly,  something about banks must follow federal regulations. Plus, do you think the cash would attract drug sniffing dogs?

No way am I googling it. I googled drug tests and hair follicles while watching Southern Charm, and my facebook feed filled with drug rehab program ads.

My husband and I lived in Colorado for 4 years and during legalization.  The issue with banking and marijuana based businesses is that there are additional and stricter guidelines for banks who do business with dispensaries as it's still illegal at the federal level.  Because of this most banks, as policy, refuse to do business with marijuana based businesses.. basically it isn't worth the hassle and the risk to them.  As a result, pot shops are all cash based businesses.. which makes them often targets for burglary and theft.  

As far as Jorge is concerned.. I'm still not clear on what his supposed job is.  He can't own a dispensary because he'd likely have a lot more money than it seems.  I read that he may cultivate and sell to dispensaries.. but I would think he'd own a grow house if that was the case.  Most dispensaries, at least in Colorado, grew their own.  And I'm pretty sure the grow houses were pretty highly regulated.  I don't know.. he seems shady.  He probably just works as some hourly employee at a grow house.  Although I also thought he had a felony record?  Usually getting a job in the marijuana industry is very difficult and those with felonies would not pass the guidelines.  

[Arwen Evenstar]

1 hour ago, Lilacly said:

The idea of a wife being present and making things safer/less sleazy is always weird to me. Women can be pimps and at the end of the day she cares about money just like him and will do what it takes and takes the shots that will sell regardless if it's porn or not and pay no mind to the model or if the husband does anything to them. It's similar to those women that allow their husbands to have multiple mistresses and treat them however they want as long as it's behind closed doors. Not that I'm implying this guy is at all like my examples but I just think neither of them care about anything other than their artistic vision, demand and money.

I can't disagree with any point you made.  There's just as many women who give that false sense of security, so the predatory behavior can take place.  This guy may not be willing to risk his professional reputation with such behavior, but there are many slimy photographers out there who wouldn't think twice about it. 

Though the main focus of my photography hobby work is fine art photography, the only portrait work I've done is of family and friends. The portrait class and drawing classes at my art school sometimes use nude models, but it's done with complete respect. I've never shot a nude or scantily clad photo of anyone.  Wouldn't bother me in an art school setting, but I'd certainly never ask someone to doff their duds, like the way that photographer ask Pao to take off her top or flash some side boob. That was so squicky. 

[Eme]

Chantel's Spanish is horrible.  She knows just enough to be a menace -- she enunciates incorrectly and misunderstands others when they speak to her en Espanol.  Pedro's sister said "Punto!" at the end of her comment - signaling "I am having the last word!"  That is very typical and while it may sound like another derogatory word, given the context, Chantel interpreted it quickly, and wrongly.  Chantel just does not have a sufficient command of the Spanish language to go flinging around comments.  She interprets everything in the worst possible way.  

Most telling in that exchange coming up next week is the speed in which Chanel "goes there" with the inlaws - spewing vitriol and burning bridges as fast as her legs can carry her.  If she has any intention of staying with Pedro, she MUST take Spanish classes asap!  Pedro must also take English classes asap.  There is no shortcut for them to communicate effectively.  She chose him, she has to understand him.  Chantel and Pedro are both immature and, clearly, did not have any financial discussions - but there is no time like the present!

Why wouldn't FamilyPedro ask for things and expect them?  He's been sending money and promised them a nice tv.  They were excited about it at the airport --surely he told them he was taking it with him on the airplane....."Where is it?"  Seemed a bit greedy at the airport, but we are not privy to all of the conversations/expectations that went on between FamilyPedro and Pedro.  

As a Latina, married to a Latino....my advice to Chantel is to Woman Up.  Pedro is a Latino and she needs to figure out all the cultural expectations Pedro didn't bother to explain before they got married.  Agree with the poster who said that their main problem is allowing their families to butt in.  Chantel complaining to FamilyChantel about Pedro's perceived shortcomings is bad form.  Surely she wants FamilyChantel to LIKE him?  After all she did drag them all to DR....Any rude awakening on Chantel's part should be shared with her BFF, not FamilyChantel who hate him already.  

If Chantel plans to stay married, she needs to learn Spanish and learn about DR culture NOW.  

Edited August 4, 2017 by Eme

[brillia79]

Maybe Pedro needs to "man up" and explain his culture to his wife, while understanding that he will have to compromise where finances are concerned. He needs to learn about  Black culture in the south. His mother already knew to insult Chantel's family by serving them chicken feet that they would never eat themselves.  He shouldn't have complained to his mother about the prenup. It's a two way street. Not just capitulation from Chantel. If she's no princess, he's no prince.

And his sister should not have the last word in his marriage if he is presenting himself as a grown man. River is an obnoxious asshole. But he doesn't have his hand out for cash and tangible goods from Pedro while disrespecting him. That's better than Nicole.

Or he can get that divorce and try to go it alone. He has a green card 

Edited August 4, 2017 by brillia79

[John M]

I don't understand why this pre-nup stuff is such a big deal, I mean I know a lot of people are offended by it because their ~love is going to last forever~ but when things started getting really serious with my partner, like I knew marriage was most likely in the road map I had three requirements, 1. We would always keep our finances separate. 2. There will be no kids, non-negotiable  and 3. There will be a pre-nup and we would walk out with exactly we walked in with including any personal windfalls, gifts or debts as if we were not married if it ended up that way. I just said this is how it is going to be and if you are not OK with that I need to know now because I can't let this go any further because those are complete non-negotiable deal breakers and I'm not going to go further down the line and be hurt more than I would be hurt now ending things.

A huge number of marriages end in divorce, sad but true, even if you are completely ~in love~ and if you can't deal with that before you sign the marriage certificate you probably shouldn't get married.

[Meowwww]

6 hours ago, Swim mom said:

I remember reading an article about how banking is difficult for legitimate pot employees because, if I remember correctly,  something about banks must follow federal regulations. Plus, do you think the cash would attract drug sniffing dogs?

No way am I googling it. I googled drug tests and hair follicles while watching Southern Charm, and my facebook feed filled with drug rehab program ads.

I work for a huge national bank. We can NOT open accounts for medical marijuana companies. Period. 

Not sure what bank could do it....none that I know. 

[sleepyjean]

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Notice how Jorge pays for everything in cash? And I noticed the only card he had was a prepaid debit card. Given the nature of his business I doubt he is able to put much if any income in a real bank account

If he has no banking history and his income is undocumented, I wonder what happens when they divorce? How will she get alimony? How will they calculate a settlement? Particularly if at that time they still don't own anything? She thinks she'll walk away with everything. But they don't even own a car, let alone a house or anything she can require him to sell and split the proceeds. She can claim he gave her a monthly allowance of a certain amount, but where's the proof? I admit I don't know much about these topics, but seems like Anfisa could be up a creek. And maybe Jorge knows it. And likes it that way.

 

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As far as Jorge is concerned.. I'm still not clear on what his supposed job is.  He can't own a dispensary because he'd likely have a lot more money than it seems.  I read that he may cultivate and sell to dispensaries.. but I would think he'd own a grow house if that was the case.

Wasn't he the guy who invented some kind of baggie to put the pot in? We've seen some clues. We saw him picking up some giant containers of chemicals in a store. We saw him driving around on their wedding day with a bunch of PVC pipe in the car. Looked like grow lights or watering pipes to me. We saw him on the freeway fighting with Anfisa because she woudn't stop calling him while he was trying to "do a deal." We heard the story about being robbed because he had so much cash in his place. I'm not up on the marijuana industry, but it seems like he's some sort of grower/seller. If he does have a house where he's growing the stuff, he's not going to invite the camera crew over for a tour. He's got at least that much sense.

[Drogo]

The "What Now?" web series has its own thread.  Kirlyam/Ala, Matt/Alla, etc. are not on Happily Ever After.  Posts have been moved.

[Adeejay]

12 hours ago, Eme said:

If Chantel plans to stay married, she needs to learn Spanish and learn about DR culture NOW.  

It should be a two way street.  Pedro should also learn about American customs; starting with putting your wife before your mother and sister.  If Chantel knows what is good for her, she will send him packing after the temporary green card expires in two years.  Let a Dominican woman deal with his family.  Guarantee you he won't be sending "home" $500 every month.  

[funky-rat]

16 hours ago, GracieK said:

My husband and I lived in Colorado for 4 years and during legalization.  The issue with banking and marijuana based businesses is that there are additional and stricter guidelines for banks who do business with dispensaries as it's still illegal at the federal level.  Because of this most banks, as policy, refuse to do business with marijuana based businesses.. basically it isn't worth the hassle and the risk to them.  As a result, pot shops are all cash based businesses.. which makes them often targets for burglary and theft.  

As far as Jorge is concerned.. I'm still not clear on what his supposed job is.  He can't own a dispensary because he'd likely have a lot more money than it seems.  I read that he may cultivate and sell to dispensaries.. but I would think he'd own a grow house if that was the case.  Most dispensaries, at least in Colorado, grew their own.  And I'm pretty sure the grow houses were pretty highly regulated.  I don't know.. he seems shady.  He probably just works as some hourly employee at a grow house.  Although I also thought he had a felony record?  Usually getting a job in the marijuana industry is very difficult and those with felonies would not pass the guidelines.  

I thought it was some sort of storage bag that he supposedly invented.  But like the person upthread mentioned, he has shown some signs of having a grow-op as well.

[realitymaven]

On 2017-08-01 at 10:20 AM, Toaster Strudel said:

I  wanted to jump at my TV and strangle Pop Trunk Tom. Danielle has been living  in a heightened state of romantic delusion for 3 or 4 years already.   She goes to that asshole's house (I am sure at TLC's behest)  and she's finally making sense and talking about reality. What does that jerk do? He freakin' gaslights her. Yes, Mo was taking thousands of dollars from women (often using the same pity story) and yes he was traveling to bang more attractive women, and none of that is Photoshop. Tom has the audacity to tell her the rat came for the right reasons? When she asked him whose side he was on, his eyes shifted, he hesitated, and claimed to be neutral. Neutral my ass. When she finally admitted that she she only had 'action' once, probably something he did as a technical shield against annulment straight from the loverat's play book, Tom responds like Danielle is some kind of nympho wanting it every day. Danielle should have thrown a USB key at him. I hated, as usual, Mo's smug attitude and seething anger at everything and everyone. He's really lazy and a professional victim. If Danielle is revenge minded,  maybe Mo can think about the consequences next time he lies to a marginally mentally competent person to get a green card, make her pay for everything, mooch off her and other women for 2 years, and refusing job offers before running off to Florida. Mo & Tom are both disgusting jerkwads.

Just had to see this again! Well said!

[gunderda]

On 7/31/2017 at 10:31 AM, Lola43 said:

Not really seeing what the big deal is about the small apartment. It's not like they have any kids. How much room do you need? Maybe they do a lot of entertaining??

It's not a small apartment... it's a studio. Which means you have one large area for your kitchen, living/dining/bedroom stuff and a bathroom.  As a couple I think it would be very hard to live in that environment, there is no other area to go if you need space to get away from your spouse. No where to work if you need a quiet place (like a bedroom or office).  Not sure there's even room for a couch so you're probably lounging on your bed all day every day.  

I find it hard to believe that they can't afford at least a one bedroom. 

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, gunderda said:

It's not a small apartment... it's a studio. Which means you have one large area for your kitchen, living/dining/bedroom stuff and a bathroom.  As a couple I think it would be very hard to live in that environment, there is no other area to go if you need space to get away from your spouse. No where to work if you need a quiet place (like a bedroom or office).  Not sure there's even room for a couch so you're probably lounging on your bed all day every day.  

I find it hard to believe that they can't afford at least a one bedroom. 

They specifically said that he paid for the 3 bedroom in the DR for 5 or 6 months. If they had put that money into upgrading their own living conditions, they probably could have had a one bedroom.

The studio is likely being paid for from the money they've gotten from the show. That money is likely gone, or very nearly gone, because of the ring on Chantel's credit card issue. Mom and Dad Thomas may be concerned that they are going to be supporting this couple.

Edited August 4, 2017 by Swim mom
Second paragraph.

[zenme]

Ok...I just don't understand how they didn't consider finances and  apartment arrangements before they got married. They didn't think about this? If they're too short sighted to think about this prior to getting married, then I think they're lacking the maturity to make the decision to marry in the first place.

Edited August 4, 2017 by zenme

[gunderda]

I am very curious to know how much Pedro's mom apartment rent cost is american dollars. 

It also seems to me that pedro doesn't understand that when you're married it's no longer your and my money, it's OUR money. He kept telling Chantel that his family was his problem and let him worry about it. uhh no, not really!

[John M]

On 8/1/2017 at 0:20 PM, Toaster Strudel said:

I  wanted to jump at my TV and strangle Pop Trunk Tom. Danielle has been living  in a heightened state of romantic delusion for 3 or 4 years already.   She goes to that asshole's house (I am sure at TLC's behest)  and she's finally making sense and talking about reality. What does that jerk do? He freakin' gaslights her. Yes, Mo was taking thousands of dollars from women (often using the same pity story) and yes he was traveling to bang more attractive women, and none of that is Photoshop. Tom has the audacity to tell her the rat came for the right reasons? When she asked him whose side he was on, his eyes shifted, he hesitated, and claimed to be neutral. Neutral my ass. When she finally admitted that she she only had 'action' once, probably something he did as a technical shield against annulment straight from the loverat's play book, Tom responds like Danielle is some kind of nympho wanting it every day. Danielle should have thrown a USB key at him. I hated, as usual, Mo's smug attitude and seething anger at everything and everyone. He's really lazy and a professional victim. If Danielle is revenge minded,  maybe Mo can think about the consequences next time he lies to a marginally mentally competent person to get a green card, make her pay for everything, mooch off her and other women for 2 years, and refusing job offers before running off to Florida. Mo & Tom are both disgusting jerkwads.

I get that they are both awful people and the idea of having sex with Danielle is disgusting but I also take issue with the idea that them having sex once in 3 months automatically means he is cheating and assumes men are all giant sluts physically incapable of not fucking anyone for 3 months. There are sexless marriages, most are horribly dysfunctional but not all of them are. Sex for me is an incredibly important part of a relationship, something that I could not go without but that is not everyone and to just assume because a couple hasn't had sex in three months means that that the man is certainly cheating is offensive to men.

Yeah, Mo is probably cheating, yes he was taking advantage of her, he probably wants sex more often than once every three months and probably finds the idea of having sex with Danielle disgusting, fine, I'm on board, I hate both of them. But acting like not being fucked in 3 months is giant irrefutable smoking gun of infidelity is bullshit. 

Edited August 4, 2017 by John M

[John M]

13 minutes ago, gunderda said:

It also seems to me that pedro doesn't understand that when you're married it's no longer your and my money, it's OUR money. He kept telling Chantel that his family was his problem and let him worry about it. uhh no, not really!

Nope, completely disagree, marriage or really any relationship is about working together towards goal. It's an arrangement and that arrangement can and should be different for each couple. I think it is great that some couples decide that completely sharing their finances is the healthiest situation for both of them, it's also a way for a lot of relationships to end in disaster that don't have to.

I'm not married but I am in a very serious long term relationship, we will most likely get married at some point in the future. Like any couple in a committed relationship we have a cost sharing arrangement, shared expenses are just that, shared expenses, things of equal value to both of us that we both consume. I drink coffee, he doesn't, he drinks (IMO hideously overpriced)  Monster energy drinks, we both drink bourbon. We take turns buying the bourbon, I buy my own coffee, he buys his own Monsters, what he spends on the Monsters is entirely his own business as long as I don't see an empty bottle of bourbon when it is his turn and a fridge full of Monsters and he says he couldn't afford the bourbon. If we get married that arrangement is not going to change, he earned that money and it is his right to spend it however he wants without question as long as he holds up his end of our financial arrangement.

I assume they have a lease on the apartment, they both agreed and signed it, as long as he is paying his portion of the rent the rest of the money he earned is his to spend as he chooses. When the lease is up they can renegotiate the deal, until then it his his money to spend as he chooses and he is not obligated to put the money into a nicer apartment just because she wants one and thinks she deserve it just because. Relationships are give and take, they are negotiations and as long as each side is holding up to their commitment everything else is fair game. 

[gunderda]

16 minutes ago, John M said:

Nope, completely disagree, marriage or really any relationship is about working together towards goal. It's an arrangement and that arrangement can and should be different for each couple. I think it is great that some couples decide that completely sharing their finances is the healthiest situation for both of them, it's also a way for a lot of relationships to end in disaster that don't have to.

I do agree - i agree that couples should have their own spending money. I don't totally agree on joint accounts. (i'm single but all of my friends are married). But in the case of Chantal and Pedro - I think they need to lean a little more on the side of "it's our money" vs "i'm the one working so i can do what I want with a large sum of money" especially since Chantal is probably not working?

[magemaud]

53 minutes ago, John M said:

Yeah, Mo is probably cheating, yes he was taking advantage of her, he probably wants sex more often than once every three months and probably finds the idea of having sex with Danielle disgusting, fine, I'm on board, I hate both of them. But acting like not being fucked in 3 months is giant irrefutable smoking gun of infidelity is bullshit. 

I agree, and I couldn't stand it when Danielle was harping on "He only slept with ME once so Mohammed MUST be gettin' sex somewhere..." like it was oxygen and he would die without it. 

[Kid]

On 8/3/2017 at 11:56 AM, GracieK said:

It's kind of funny to me that if we expect others coming here to understand or adapt to our culture it's American hubris.  If we go somewhere else and expect others to adapt to our culture, it's American hubris.  In neither of these scenarios is the other expected to adapt or understand ours.  

Amen!!!! 

[John M]

22 minutes ago, gunderda said:

I do agree - i agree that couples should have their own spending money. I don't totally agree on joint accounts. (i'm single but all of my friends are married). But in the case of Chantal and Pedro - I think they need to lean a little more on the side of "it's our money" vs "i'm the one working so i can do what I want with a large sum of money" especially since Chantal is probably not working?

They can have whatever arrangement they want, maybe she has no income and they are completely relying on his income to pay the bills. Fine, that is reasonable if she is in school. If they were a responsible adult couple they would have a budget, they would agree on what they spend on groceries, they would agree on what the appropriate apartment for them to sign a lease on is, they can negotiate all of this but as long as he is holding his end of the deal up which might be paying for everything that is the deal and the rest of the money is his to spend as he pleases because he earned it. Once the lease is up maybe they decide they are more financially stable and decide to spend more on an apartment, that is fine but as long as the rent check is clearing for this lease there is nothing to fight about right now.

The problem of course is they don't have a mature relationship, they obviously did not negotiate a financial arrangement that they were both OK with, Chantal wants the money because she thinks it is hers to do with as she pleases just because they are married. And that might be fine for some couples but it clearly is not for Pedro. So they need a new financial arrangement, that may include a nicer apartment but Chantal gets to spend his money as she pleases is clearly not a tenable arrangement for Pedro and if they can't come up with something that works for both of them they might as well end things now, something at the core of their relationship is just going to get much worse over time.

Edited August 4, 2017 by John M

[Guest]

I noticed that one person mentioned Southern Black culture. I live in the South, with many black friends, and none of them would live in a studio while money was going elsewhere, unless it was to support a mission somewhere.  But, we're older, so maybe it's normal for younger black girls.

[DangerousMinds]

Not sure how living in a small apartment or studio varies if one is white or black.

[Kath94]

Didn't Chantel rent that apartment specifically to have someplace for she & Pedro to live?  Wasn't she living with per parents prior to that?  Maybe she saw it as just a "starter" apartment until he began earning money & fully anticipated that they'd get a bigger place.  It seems to me that there was no mention of anyone's dissatisfaction with it until she saw what Pedro was financing for his mother & sister.  Then it became a "NO FAIR" argument.

[Mrs. Hanson]

On 8/3/2017 at 10:46 AM, Pepper Mostly said:

my husband and I also have separate bank accounts. Works for us.

My fiance are keeping separate checking accounts after we marry in October, no need to change.  Works for us.  Pedro and Chantel need to find what works for THEM and more importantly, they need to sit down with a neutral trained professional and and have a heart to heart about the things they should have hashed out before getting married:  how much to send home, how are we going to share or split our income, how much are our parents going to be involved?  More importantly:  How are we gonna handle conflict?  This one is huge.  No, Chantel, you can't send your brother or parents in, and no Pedro, you can't call you mommy or send your sister in to fight for you.  

These two need to separate for a while, like Pedro in DR and Chantel in ATL and no talking for a while.  I think they should just cut their losses now and divorce as they are so immature, especially Chantel.  She shoulders most of the blame, really.  Pedro getting all huffed up:  "Respect my mother!!!  Respect my mother!"  Nice thought but do YOU yell at them:  "Resepct my wife!!!"?

[CofCinci]

14 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

Not sure how living in a small apartment or studio varies if one is white or black.

I think being pissed that your spouse is sending money to his family to upgrade their lives WHILE you eat your dinner on the bed because you have no room for a table transcends color.  It is a universal anger felt by all.  His $2k computer takes up one of the few flat surfaces in the studio apartment!  She has to do her class work on the bed, eat on the bed, entertain on the bed, film interviews for this series on the bed -- meanwhile, Pedro's mom is getting the upgrade?  Most likely Pedro is not being honest about how much money he actually sends the family.

[Former Nun]

Dear BRAVO,

Please let us know how Chandel is doing in school, what level of nursing degree she is working toward, AND when she will be finished and able to take state boards.

[Mrs. Hanson]

One more thing I want to add about money, couples and fighting:  I hear it all the time from people who say keeping separate accounts:  "You write a check to your fiance for your half the mortgage?  You pay cable and he pays water and electricity?"  "That seems unromantic, like roommates!"  Well......as someone who has been divorced, I can tell you firsthand fighting about money is no fun when you are in love and actually like each other, try fighting about it when you are getting divorced.  Nothing groundbreaking, I know, but someone should clue Chantel and Pedro about this.  

My fiance may have a few disagreements, but they are minor, but we have never argued about money, ever.  We know what each other makes and he knows about my student loans (yay me) but we don't argue over finances.  

[Real Eyes]

On 8/4/2017 at 10:30 AM, John M said:

I get that they are both awful people and the idea of having sex with Danielle is disgusting but I also take issue with the idea that them having sex once in 3 months automatically means he is cheating and assumes men are all giant sluts physically incapable of not fucking anyone for 3 months. There are sexless marriages, most are horribly dysfunctional but not all of them are. Sex for me is an incredibly important part of a relationship, something that I could not go without but that is not everyone and to just assume because a couple hasn't had sex in three months means that that the man is certainly cheating is offensive to men.

Yeah, Mo is probably cheating, yes he was taking advantage of her, he probably wants sex more often than once every three months and probably finds the idea of having sex with Danielle disgusting, fine, I'm on board, I hate both of them. But acting like not being fucked in 3 months is giant irrefutable smoking gun of infidelity is bullshit. 

I didn't view that statement by Danielle as a sign he is unfaithful but rather, that he never wanted to be married to her.  That's fine too.  But then don't actually marry her.

[S86226]

On 7/31/2017 at 10:30 AM, brillia79 said:

Neither did the bitch who called her a puta, so there's that.

I know we're heavily invested in railing against the "ugly Americans" stereotype, but let's call a spade a spade. Pedro's family is no prize. If they're mad about a prenup, fuck them double. Everyone should have one. People with less income have more to lose in terms of standard of living in the event of a divorce.

Thank you! 100% AGREE! 

[Toaster Strudel]

On 8/4/2017 at 0:30 PM, John M said:

But acting like not being fucked in 3 months is giant irrefutable smoking gun of infidelity is bullshit. 

Of course - it's no secret that her logical powers are lacking.  Bulging Eyes Tom didn't even make that argument. He went straight to implying she is a sex maniac.

I'm not sure if it's "talking about your sex life" if you're talking about involuntary celibacy LOL.

[sleepyjean]

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I have no expectation that Chantal is actually studying to become a Registered Nurse.  If nothing else, there might be some mention of studying at some point, and she wouldn't be making prolonged trips to the DR.  And she doesn't seem to display a lick of common sense or book smarts, which should be prerequisites for admission to nursing school.  

In the first episode last season, she said she is in community college pursing a bachelor's degree in nursing. Look! Studying!

I'm glad she's getting an education and pursuing a career, but I am SO curious to know what she was doing between ages 18 and 25.

 

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As far as Jorge is concerned.. I'm still not clear on what his supposed job is.  He can't own a dispensary because he'd likely have a lot more money than it seems.  I read that he may cultivate and sell to dispensaries.. but I would think he'd own a grow house if that was the case.  Most dispensaries, at least in Colorado, grew their own.  And I'm pretty sure the grow houses were pretty highly regulated.  I don't know.. he seems shady.  He probably just works as some hourly employee at a grow house.

From episode 1 last year:

Jorge: "My name's Jorge. I'm 26 years old and I'm from Los Angeles, California. I'm an entrepreneur in the medical marijuana industry, growing and providing medicine to patients...Growing marijuana always been sort of like an art form to me. I also provide packaging of medical herb. I've designed a bag to block out UV rays and keep it more potent for a longer time. It allows me to have a six-figure income without having a 9-to-5. But when marijuana becomes legal for recreational purposes, my business could potentially grow into the millions."

 

So...why does he have so much debt?

 

Edited August 6, 2017 by sleepyjean

[Quof]

Do Community Colleges in the US grant Bachelor's degrees? I thought it was only Associate's degrees. 

[sleepyjean]

I did some cursory googling and found that yep, that's a thing that CCs do now. You have to get the AA degree first, and then do another two years for the full BS degree.

Apparently she's doing well. Although this could be a screenshot of anything. It's funny to see her crowing about how smart she is.

 

[pdlinda1]

On 8/5/2017 at 4:41 AM, CofCinci said:

I think being pissed that your spouse is sending money to his family to upgrade their lives WHILE you eat your dinner on the bed because you have no room for a table transcends color.  It is a universal anger felt by all.  His $2k computer takes up one of the few flat surfaces in the studio apartment!  She has to do her class work on the bed, eat on the bed, entertain on the bed, film interviews for this series on the bed -- meanwhile, Pedro's mom is getting the upgrade?  Most likely Pedro is not being honest about how much money he actually sends the family.

From what I understand Pedro is working 2 jobs.  With his language ability and lack of a degree, my assumption is that he's making at or near minimum wage.  Even with the 2 jobs, after taxes and other deductions how much does he actually come home with each week?  It can't be much.  Then you have the basic bills, transportation, insurance, including medical insurance and I'm not understanding where he's getting $$ for expensive TV's to send home to DR, cash to DR, grooming items and other items he's sending there and the expensive "toys" he's buying for himself.  I don't think he qualifies for credit cards from what we learned when he went to the jeweler and was denied a credit purchase.  With his basic expenses with Chantal (assuming she's not working),  and the  financial support he's giving his family, the math just doesn't seem to work.  Maybe the show pays them a decent sum for filming although I think I read the participants get paid very little.

[Former Nun]

3 hours ago, Quof said:

Do Community Colleges in the US grant Bachelor's degrees? I thought it was only Associate's degrees. 

They grant only AA, but some community colleges do grant a full RN (Registered Nurse) degree within the two years.   

3 hours ago, sleepyjean said:

So...why does he have so much debt?

Anfisa?   Partially....

On 8/4/2017 at 10:29 AM, magemaud said:

I agree, and I couldn't stand it when Danielle was harping on "He only slept with ME once so Mohammed MUST be gettin' sex somewhere..." like it was oxygen and he would die without it. 

We don't know how much Mohammed's understanding of his religion ties into any of this.  It's possible that he's gay and cannot bear to accept that fact.  If he slept with Danielle only once, we know that he does have some common sense.

[Guest]

Why do we think she's at a community college?

Sorry, reread the earlier post.

Edited August 6, 2017 by Swim mom

[Guest]

I found 8 community colleges within 40 miles of Atlanta. None of them offers a bachelor's in anything. She can get an RN, but not a BSN. Of course, she could be driving farther than 40 miles, but her story is beginning to stink.

[JocelynCavanaugh]

Florida CCs have been at the forefront of offering Bachelor's degrees in certain critical professions like health and education. There are several CCs in Texas that have now been cleared to offer Bachelor's degrees in Nursing and Education, too; some also have local agreements with state universities to offer the last two years of the BA/BS locally. This is all very new but it's technically plausible that she could be working on a Bachelor's degree at a CC.

For some reason I was thinking Chantel was in Florida for school but I could be misremembering that part. 

[Ellie Godfrey]

Anfisa got "buttocks".

[Dashing Off]

I honestly can't stand Anfisa. She's so selfish. 

[sainte-chapelle]

2 hours ago, Former Nun said:

They grant only AA, but some community colleges do grant a full RN (Registered Nurse) degree within the two years.   

Anfisa?   Partially....

We don't know how much Mohammed's understanding of his religion ties into any of this.  It's possible that he's gay and cannot bear to accept that fact.  If he slept with Danielle only once, we know that he does have some common sense.

Nope, Jorge likes to blame Anfisa for his debts but he was well on his way before he met her, despite what sister and mommy say about their golden boy with a felony charge Jorge.

[Ellie Godfrey]

Just now, Dashing Off said:

I honestly can't stand Anfisa. She's so selfish. 

I can't stand any of them.

[VioletNevermind]

And here's Mohamed's little bitch friend Tom to grab another TLC paycheck tattle on Danielle.  Ugh.  She was so, so dumb to confide in him.  She probably shouldn't even be in charge of her own affairs, much less handling a complicated divorce.

[Dashing Off]

Just now, Godfrey said:

I can't stand any of them.

Same here, but Anfisa just pisses me off more than the others. 

[Awfarmington]

Ugh, Walmart Tom is such a phony. It was obvious last week that he wasn't neutral. But this week, he just confirmed his love affair with Mo. The jokes on him though, because Mo is only using Tom as an ally with his Danielle problems. 

[Ellie Godfrey]

Just now, SuzyLee said:

And here's Mohamed's little bitch friend Tom to grab another TLC paycheck tattle on Danielle.  Ugh.  She was so, so dumb to confide in him.  She probably shouldn't even be in charge of her own affairs, much less handling a complicated divorce.

I think you're right. Danielle is seriously immature, delusional, and unstable. 

[Awfarmington]

3 minutes ago, SuzyLee said:

And here's Mohamed's little bitch friend Tom to grab another TLC paycheck tattle on Danielle.  Ugh.  She was so, so dumb to confide in him.  She probably shouldn't even be in charge of her own affairs, much less handling a complicated divorce.

Agreed! She needs to cut off all contact with Mo's boyfriend. Although she's as bad as Mo so I guess I don't really care that she's being turned against by that creep. 

[bethster2000]

On 8/4/2017 at 10:43 AM, Swim mom said:

 

I noticed that one person mentioned Southern Black culture. I live in the South, with many black friends, and none of them would live in a studio while money was going elsewhere, unless it was to support a mission somewhere.  But, we're older, so maybe it's normal for younger black girls.

 

Didn't you hear?  Chantel's culture doesn't matter, but Pedro's does.  Sleep in that one-room and write the check, Chantel, because Pedro's Mama needs a flat-screen TV!  

ETA: Chantel reached out to The Gruesome Twosome and even spoke in their own language, and was laughed at and treated with total disrespect.  Hmmmm...I wonder if that's another aspect of Pedro's "culture" that she should just have to tolerate.  Personally, I would have smacked both of those bitches upside their skanky heads, called off the wedding, and enjoyed the rest of the holiday with the family who love me, care about me, and respect me.  Let those two nasty babies have their bottle.

Edited August 7, 2017 by bethster2000
Had more to say :-)

[Kid]

No, Danielle, YOU hurt your kids.