S09.E01: Talk of the Town

[OnceSane]

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It's fall in New York City and Luann addresses her unfolding wedding plans in the Season 9 premiere. Also: Dorinda complains about Sonja's bad mouthing; Bethenny works to sell an apartment; and Luann faces Ramona about her continuous meddling.

[WaltersHair]

I only watched part of last year because Bethenny (wicked witch of the East) couldn't keep herself from criticizing everyone and everything. 15 minutes in and she's managed to insult her realtor, ex husband and a couple of housewives. Sonja looks like a dog. Shut up.

Carol looks weirdly puffy in her first scene, a little like Mama Elsa from the Miami franchise. Dorinda looks good.

Ramona, Mama Cass called and wants the vest she was buried in back. Ramona is projecting. Her husband was a cheating MoFo and she thinks Luann's future husband will be too. Just leave it, crazy eyes.

[KenyaJ]

Carole was me during the election. I feel your pain, girl!

Loved the real estate porn during this episode. It was a welcome respite from listening to all these women still obsessing over Tom. Luann is the only one who should still be fixated on him right now. Everyone else just needs to let it go already!

[Petunia13]

Sonja: I once dated Prince Albert.

Narrator: She had a one stand with a man who had a penis piercing. 

[Straycat80]

If the rest of the season is as boring as this first episode then this season will be a complete snoozefest! 

Ramona. How embarrassing, she was practically humping the interior decorator and she is still digging up shit on Tom. Give it a rest! Lu is a 50-something year old woman, if she's making a mistake then so be it! 

Carole looked like she had some work done. Everyone else looked good. But boring. 

[chick binewski]

Screw Carole and everything she stands for if she refuses to recognize the real enemy of the USA, Jason Hoppy.

Sonja's sex show rehearsal made me feel good about my life choices. And I don't know how many procedures Ramona had done because she's gone full blown Picasso where you can't stay focused on one point for any amount of time. 

[WireWrap]

2 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

If the rest of the season is as boring as this first episode then this season will be a complete snoozefest! 

Ramona. How embarrassing, she was practically humping the interior decorator and she is still digging up shit on Tom. Give it a rest! Lu is a 50-something year old woman, if she's making a mistake then so be it! 

Carole looked like she had some work done. Everyone else looked good. But boring. 

How about all the work Ramona has had done? It looks like she had a full face lift, eye work, cheek implants and her lips plumped! Then, who ever is doing her makeup for her THs must really hate her, she looks horrible! LOL

[Bronzedog]

You know how when you break up with someone you've been with for a long time, and, as time goes on your memories get better and you're sure if you're given just one more chance it will be the most incredible thing ever?  And then you get that chance and the reality is that that person is the biggest assholian buffoon on the face of the earth?  That's how I feel about these women and this show.  They all seem so much more interesting when they're not around. 

Edited April 6, 2017 by Bronzedog

[For Cereals]

Ramona = nose job, or just sick this episode?  They all sounded hoarse...Luann just sounded like her normal 2-pack-a-day self.  Otherwise pretty slow start...

Oh and Carole stop calling yourself a girl.  That ship sailed 30 years ago.

Edited April 6, 2017 by Denim Dreams

[WireWrap]

3 minutes ago, chick binewski said:

Screw Carole and everything she stands for if she refuses to recognize the real enemy of the USA, Jason Hoppy.

Sonja's sex show rehearsal made me feel good about my life choices. And I don't know how many procedures Ramona had done because she's gone full blown Picasso where you can't stay focused on one point for any amount of time. 

I did not need to see her put her bedroom "toys" in the dishwasher along side dishes, glasses and her silverware! YUCK! Ewwwwwwwwe!

[Chit Chat]

This will be a long season if all we hear from Carole is her endless commentary on the news/election.  I will not watch this season if she continues to drone on about it.  The number one rule when you're with friends is not to talk about politics or religion - well, you can in some instances, but in this case, it doesn't look like any of the ladies wants a play-by-play of the campaign. 

Note to a Mod:  Can you set some ground rules for this season since the election will play a seemingly prominent role?  I've seen other forums get taken over by politics, and I'd hate to see that happen here.  I come here to snark on the ladies, not on the president or other presidential candidates.  Thanks! 

[BloggerAloud]

These women can't really seem to make up their mind about Luann/Tom because they keep swinging from they are trying to protect her because he's cheating on her BUT in the same breath they also like to throw how they are probably in an open relationship and they are just like each other. It all depends on whatever point they are trying to make, usually the cheating thing is to Luann's face and the "they are an open relationship" when they are out of ear shot. Either way, nobody has been able to sufficiently formulate to me why they care so much other than for storyline reasons and the general distaste they have for Luann. 

[Otherkate]

I hope Ramona's face settles at some point during the season. Yowza.

I may never get over seeing that jar in Tom's apartment that was labeled "Tom's Cookies"

Loved Beth's red pants in the first scene.

[annewithaneee]

Anyone else notice the way they 'displayed' Luann's texts with Tom onscreen? I don't think they've done that before, on any installment of the franchise. It was a little odd and maybe too slick but it cracked me up. However, I hope Luann isn't done texting via dictations to Siri. I wanted her to bellow "I love you too SMILEY FACE" in the middle of the park.

Not sure how ready I am for an election story line, but it's our reality so it should be in our reality shows too. I guess I'm glad that of all the cities, New York is getting the first crack at this. Carole's perspective is legit, and if nothing else it'll solidify for me who I'm still rooting for, and who voted for Trump.

[Jamie Satyr]

9 minutes ago, annewithaneee said:

Anyone else notice the way they 'displayed' Luann's texts with Tom onscreen? I don't think they've done that before, on any installment of the franchise. It was a little odd and maybe too slick but it cracked me up. However, I hope Luann isn't done texting via dictations to Siri. I wanted her to bellow "I love you too SMILEY FACE" in the middle of the park.

Not sure how ready I am for an election story line, but it's our reality so it should be in our reality shows too. I guess I'm glad that of all the cities, New York is getting the first crack at this. Carole's perspective is legit, and if nothing else it'll solidify for me who I'm still rooting for, and who voted for Trump.

Watching it now; hard to believe a woman of her age and worldliness is almost giddy about this pending wedding to a sleazebag! The Countless must be desperate; BIG TIME! ;-)

[Chit Chat]

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Carole's perspective is legit,

It may be legit, but given Bethany's reaction, she'd like for Carole to give it a rest too!  Apparently she drove her friends crazy with her 24/7 commentary, or so it seems.   However, the upcoming meltdown after the election might be worth the price of a ticket. ;)   Seriously,  I hope the show can veer away from that and LuAnn's marriage storyline.  That's gotten old too, IMO.

[Polliwollidoodle]

I had to come here and see the comments on Ramona's face. I cannot figure out what she did have done to it or better yet maybe what she didnt do but man oh man she looks different. The Picasso reference and all the other comments above were wonderful.

And I always find Carole very irritating to look at . If you look quickly and don't focus, she is attractive. If you actually look at her, man she is a bizaare looking one.

[Jamie Satyr]

18 minutes ago, mayvenne said:

I had to come here and see the comments on Ramona's face. I cannot figure out what she did have done to it or better yet maybe what she didn't do but man oh man she looks different. The Picasso reference and all the other comments above were wonderful.

And I always find Carole very irritating to look at . If you look quickly and don't focus, she is attractive. If you actually look at her, man she is a bizarre looking one.

Jealous much? She's still kickin' it with Adam! How many thought he would still be around after all this time? I saw him last year on "Chopped!" ;-)

Edited April 6, 2017 by Jamie Satyr
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[chick binewski]

8 minutes ago, BloggerAloud said:

These women can't really seem to make up their mind about Luann/Tom because they keep swinging from they are trying to protect her because he's cheating on her BUT in the same breath they also like to throw how they are probably in an open relationship and they are just like each other. It all depends on whatever point they are trying to make, usually the cheating thing is to Luann's face and the "they are an open relationship" when they are out of ear shot. Either way, nobody has been able to sufficiently formulate to me why they care so much other than for storyline reasons and the general distaste they have for Luann. 

I think much of it is due to Luann's general obnoxiousness and Bethenny spearheading the Luann is a Ho campaign last year. Overall I understand exactly why Luann has infuriated Bethenny for so many years; first the countess routine lecturing on manners & how to get a man, then moving on to pontificating on true love and the jealousy of all women who are not her. But I think what is making ALL of them nuts is Luann's complete lack of authenticity. Her actions, her speech, her delivery - she doesn't look at all natural and I don't see anything that resembles a genuine person happy with their circumstances.

[Thumper]

Beth would only go to the wedding if it was a paid appearance or they'd use her products???

I thought Lu said she only invited one HW?  (Forgot which one.)

Sonja's denim pantsuit -- lol.

[hoodooznoodooz]

LuAnn and Tom's texts: absolutely riveting.

I couldn't tell if those were Sonja's dog toys or sex toys, so thanks, wirewrap.

[njbchlover]

Both Ramona and Carole spent their time off getting some serious face work done, and unfortunately for both of them, the work didn't enhance their looks, imo.

Glad we're off to a slow start - I'm still recovering from the RHOBH finale and Eden's meltdown, so, some relative peace is welcome!!  

ChitChat - totally agree with you.  I understand that the election was/is polarizing, but I would hate to see the forum become a battleground based on personal politics, rather than posters' opinions about which housewife did what to whom and who is a bitch or not.  

Loved seeing everyone's apartments, and I love what Ramona has done thus far with hers.  She really needs to upgrade her kitchen and bathrooms though. That golden-ish color tile in her kitchen looked really, really dated and the bathroom needs a major overhaul.  OTOH - how low has Ramona gone - trying to get her contractor to play matchmaker for her?  

And, Sonja - really - you dated Prince Albert?  Was that while you were partying with John John and Madonna while entertaining P.Diddy on your yacht??   ;-)

[BodhiGurl]

Did Bethenny's dog Cookie pass away? ?  Overall I liked the episode, loved the house porn... nice to watch an episode where it's not about arguments nearly the entire hour... personally I like the slice of life scenes... lordt knows the drama is coming... loved that Carole is trying out the two kitt-ens ?

Edited April 6, 2017 by BodhiGurl
Just remembered Bethenny's dog's name

[Maire]

Ramona's face is unsettling. Maybe should have timed it better for the season. 

Bethenney is worse than ever. Not sure I can make it all season with her witch act.

The rest looks so boring.

[annewithaneee]

6 minutes ago, Thumper said:

Beth would only go to the wedding if it was a paid appearance or they'd use her products???

That was a joke, I think. I mean, she probably did say that to Luann, but purposefully being a shithead. That's at least how I took it, and thought it was kinda funny. 

[WireWrap]

3 minutes ago, BodhiGurl said:

Did Bethenny's dog pass away? ?  Overall I liked the episode, loved the house porn... nice to watch an episode where it's not about arguments nearly the entire hour... personally I like the slice of life scenes... lordt knows the drama is coming... loved that Carole is trying out the two kitt-ens ?

No, Cookie is alive and wellish (she is very old) and Bethenny added 2 new pups to her home.

[HunterHunted]

3 hours ago, Jamie Satyr said:

Jealous much? She's still kickin' it with Adam! How many thought he would still be around after all this time? I saw him last year on "Chopped;" he didn't win! ;-)

No, he won. It was by many measures the most boring Chopped I've ever seen.

I was both irritated that Carole let the couch upholstery get torn apart, but then relieved when I realized the swatches on the back were to reupholster the couch. I love the Scalamandre. It's gorgeous, but crazy stupid for a house with pets and ridiculously expensive. It's at least $30,000 to recover the couch with the silk tiger Scalamandre fabric.

Edited April 6, 2017 by HunterHunted
Because the fabric is tiger striped not leopard spotted.

[KenyaJ]

8 minutes ago, Thumper said:

I thought Lu said she only invited one HW?  (Forgot which one.)

Dorinda. That's why I was surprised to hear Sonja say she was invited, but couldn't go. I find it hard to believe Luann would invite her, of all people.

[WireWrap]

1 minute ago, annewithaneee said:

That was a joke, I think. I mean, she probably did say that to Luann, but purposefully being a shithead. That's at least how I took it, and thought it was kinda funny. 

She did say that to Luann last season and she was 1/2 serious when she said it.

[zoeysmom]

1 minute ago, annewithaneee said:

That was a joke, I think. I mean, she probably did say that to Luann, but purposefully being a shithead. That's at least how I took it, and thought it was kinda funny. 

Bad joke as there were no takers for Bethenny's offers and she was never in danger of being invited.  Why don't these women just admit Luann is being real and had no desire to invite them as they have not one bit of interest in Luann's happiness.

[Jamie Satyr]

1 minute ago, HunterHunted said:

No, he won. It was by many measures the most boring Chopped I've ever seen.

I was both irritated that Carole let the couch upholstery get torn apart, but then relieved when I realized the swatches on the back were to reupholster the couch. I love the Scalamandre. It's gorgeous, but crazy stupid for a house with pets and ridiculously expensive. It's at least $30,000 to recover the couch with the silk leopard Scalamandre fabric.

I wonder why I didn't remember him winning? You sure he didn't appear twice? He cut his hair some; no more man-bun! ;-)

[BodhiGurl]

4 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

No, Cookie is alive and wellish (she is very old) and Bethenny added 2 new pups to her home.

Thanks! I thought it was odd if Cookie had passed that she didn't mention it... 

8 minutes ago, annewithaneee said:

That was a joke, I think. I mean, she probably did say that to Luann, but purposefully being a shithead. That's at least how I took it, and thought it was kinda funny. 

That's how I took it too... she was being a smartarse... 

[GloriaMundy]

Ramona's plastic surgery is beyond awful.  She looked so pretty before.  She's in full-on catwoman territory now.  She did not need that at all, and I hope it settles down or something.  It is very distracting.

[thefog]

1 hour ago, chick binewski said:

Overall I understand exactly why Luann has infuriated Bethenny for so many years; first the countess routine lecturing on manners & how to get a man, then moving on to pontificating on true love and the jealousy of all women who are not her.

It goes back to when LuAnn was at the height of her Countess - call me Mrs. de lesseps snobbery - who looked down at pre-Skinny Girl Bethenny.  At the time, Bethenny was living in a tiny apartment, working her sample trays at the market, who did not run with NY society.

In the infamous fall out with Jill, LuAnn automatically took Jill's side - and cast off Bethenny.

Edited April 6, 2017 by escape

[Duke2801]

12 minutes ago, BodhiGurl said:

Did Bethenny's dog Cookie pass away? ?  Overall I liked the episode, loved the house porn... nice to watch an episode where it's not about arguments nearly the entire hour... personally I like the slice of life scenes... lordt knows the drama is coming... loved that Carole is trying out the two kitt-ens ?

Did you see the episode? Cookie was there throughout most of the "Bethenny gets an offer on her apt" scene. 

Her new puppies are cute. That's the best thing I have to say about her. I was rolling my eyes all over again at her recorded "breakdown flashback scene" after seeing her old apt for the first time. Having an emotional reaction is fine; telling somebody to record you while having it is not.

Glad I'm not the only one who thought Ramona looked bizarre. At least she seems to have ditched the awful extensions. I felt bad for Mario 2.0.  She was so obnoxious! 

Lu looked good. 

[annewithaneee]

11 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

 

15 minutes ago, BodhiGurl said:

Did Bethenny's dog pass away? ?  Overall I liked the episode, loved the house porn... nice to watch an episode where it's not about arguments nearly the entire hour... personally I like the slice of life scenes... lordt knows the drama is coming... loved that Carole is trying out the two kitt-ens ?

No, Cookie is alive and wellish (she is very old) and Bethenny added 2 new pups to her home.

 

Cookie seemed fine, and the new pups are super adorable, but that decision struck me as odd. If my dog were sixteen, I would personally avoid any significant extra stress like moving (when it could be avoided of course) and adding new animals to the family, especially puppies. That assimilation process can be long and difficult, and they'll have energy that Cookie just doesn't have anymore. I get that little kids love having puppies, but if I were in Bethenny's shoes I wouldn't put Cookie through that in her waning, frailest years.

[Michichick]

46 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

How about all the work Ramona has had done? It looks like she had a full face lift, eye work, cheek implants and her lips plumped! Then, who ever is doing her makeup for her THs must really hate her, she looks horrible! LOL

Omg, her eyes are extra crazy now after getting a way-too-tight facelift. She looks dreadful.

I think Luann has a pretty good surgeon, she looks good to me.

[njbchlover]

13 minutes ago, KenyaJ said:

Dorinda. That's why I was surprised to hear Sonja say she was invited, but couldn't go. I find it hard to believe Luann would invite her, of all people.

I think that Sonja would say that whether she was invited or not.  She knew well in advance what the wedding date was (as we all did), so she had ample opportunity to make plans to be in Phuket, or wherever the hell she said she would be.  A lot of people do that, when they know they won't be invited to a "major" event in their social circles - make plans to be out of town during the event, so they can save face.

[Jamie Satyr]

1 minute ago, escape said:

It goes back to when LuAnn was at the height of her Countess - call me Mrs. de lesseps snobbery - who looked down at pre-Skinny Girl Bethenny.  At the time, Bethenny was the single gal, looking for love, working on her career, who did not run with NY society.

In the infamous fall out with Jill, LuAnn automatically took Jill's side - and cast off Bethenny.

Bethenny just raced past the Countless and she couldn't stand it! I wonder why she periodically tries to salvage things? I keep thinking it's so she can stay close to hear dirt and stir the $#!t about Bethenny and the other girls! Luann's just not a nice person; selfish, jealous, class conscious, FOS, and can't deal with any woman who threatens her domination of a room it seems! ;-)

[BodhiGurl]

2 minutes ago, Duke2801 said:

Did you see the episode? Cookie was there throughout most of the "Bethenny gets an offer on her apt" scene. 

Her new puppies are cute. That's the best thing I have to say about her. I was rolling my eyes all over again at her recorded "breakdown flashback scene" after seeing her old apt for the first time. Having an emotional reaction is fine; telling somebody to record you while having it is not.

Glad I'm not the only one who thought Ramona looked bizarre. At least she seems to have ditched the awful extensions. I felt bad for Mario 2.0.  She was so obnoxious! 

Lu looked good. 

Yes I did watch the episode, clearly I looked away when Cookie was shown, otherwise I wouldn't have asked. She wasn't shown with the puppies.

[izabella]

Ramona really needs to find a story line that isn't about Tom.  It comes across as jealousy since there's no point to it.  And her desperation to find a man is embarrassing.  

[njbchlover]

16 minutes ago, Jamie Satyr said:

I wonder why I didn't remember him winning? You sure he didn't appear twice? He cut his hair some; no more man-bun! ;-)

Adam may have cut his hair, but it still looks like it needs some serious shampooing action.  Plus, is it possible that a man could have a worse vocal fry than a Kardashian?  His talking was like nails on a chalkboard to me!!   

[mbaywife123]

7 minutes ago, GloriaMundy said:

Ramona's plastic surgery is beyond awful.  She looked so pretty before.  She's in full-on catwoman territory now.  She did not need that at all, and I hope it settles down or something.  It is very distracting.

I call it the Fancy Feast (tm) face.

[njbchlover]

58 minutes ago, GloriaMundy said:

Ramona's plastic surgery is beyond awful.  She looked so pretty before.  She's in full-on catwoman territory now.  She did not need that at all, and I hope it settles down or something.  It is very distracting.

She is definitely starting to venture into the Jocelyn Wildenstein territory.  I was shocked at her look.  Watching past seasons these last few weeks, she was so much prettier back then.

Edited April 6, 2017 by njbchlover

[mbaywife123]

I was shocked when they were showing the ages of everyone's dogs and Lu's dog is 10!

I remember when they showed him as a pup coming into the household when she was still married to the Count,time really passes quickly!

[Sweet-tea]

1 hour ago, chick binewski said:

Screw Carole and everything she stands for if she refuses to recognize the real enemy of the USA, Jason Hoppy.

Sonja's sex show rehearsal made me feel good about my life choices. And I don't know how many procedures Ramona had done because she's gone full blown Picasso where you can't stay focused on one point for any amount of time. 

I agree about Ramona. I thought she looked bad, especially in her THs. She has that angry Botox brow. In her scene with Dorinda, I really noticed the difference between the two. Dorina looked good and natural while Ramona verged on freakish. Her nose also looked weird to me and different. I noticed it and don't remember noticing it in the past. 

Edited April 6, 2017 by Sweet-tea
Added part about Ramona's nose

[ninjago]

Not another season with these hard-ridden broads acting brand new to the idea that some marriages aren't right out of the fairy tale handbook.

[parisprincess]

So nice to have delusional Sonja back! She not only has an international following, but she also dated Prince Albert? Hmm. Also, I can't believe the clothes she offered Beth for Dress for Success. I wonder if they got thrown in the nearest dumpster; they were either out of fashion or inappropriate. I can just see someone going for a job interview in those black shorts - lol.

Good lord, it was painful to look at Ramona's face. I couldn't figure out exactly what she had done, but couldn't stop staring at it. Sadly, she probably paid a fortune to look like that.

i wish Beth and Ramona would shut the hell up about Luanne and concentrate on their own lives. Also, since the news these days is all Trump all day,  I don't care to hear anything about politics on this show too. These women bring all the crazy I can handle!

[breezy424]

Well, I'm over in the corner of every scene playing with the dogs or the kittens.  All of them were so cute.

Note:  Adam was on Chopped last night and he won the episode.

Let Luanne be and stopped pretending that you somehow care.  It's all about storyline and 'getting' Lu. 

Sonja looked ridiculous when rehearsing the play.  She also looked ridiculous when showing her 'donations' with Beth.  

Ro looked just as ridiculous with the contractor, her new 'face', and her constant need to show she's dating.

Of course we have to continue to hear about Beth's divorce from hell. 

I get Carole's involvement with the election.  I don't mind hearing about it.  This 'is' what is going on now and what 'was' going on then. 

I didn't mind Doris this episode.  She seemed very reasonable.

[mbaywife123]

I finally figured out why Bethenney bothers me so much.

I still remember her in the first season when she was doing Bethenney Bakes (tm) and was in the grocery store trying to give away samples and got no takers. She was funny and self deprecating and was likable as a woman trying to make something of herself with a ton of hustle.

With all of her Skinny Girl (tm) success she turned into a total bitch. Had she just come out and said in an actual "Wow I did it "  sincere way and not started being all FU to everyone and tearing down other women in her rise to being a millionaire I think other women would have been there to prop her up and offer sincere congratulations.