S34.E05: Dirty Deed

[Tara Ariano]

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One castaway searches for an immunity idol they desperately need to stay in the game, while another player throws their game off balance when they lose their cool.

[MyBad]

If you go to Fiji on Google Maps and find the sandy island they used for the peanut butter Reward Challenge, the image clearly shows the challenge course being setup or dismantled. 

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[Lamb18]

J.T., what a liar! No one's going to roll over and play dead to let him win.  Go, Sandra, go!! Rats, J.T. found an idol. (Amazing Race commercial - there was someone who really sounded like Hayley from the dating season.)

A moment of silence for Malcolm before the Reward challenge.  Didn't they just use this set last episode? Is this Olympic gymnastics trials or Survivor? Now in The Amazing Race Small Talk thread there was extensive discussion of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. I hope there's guava jelly there in tribute to Netfoot. J.T. proves incompetence on the beam - flash to Michaela's smouldering stare: "It should be me! I can take home the gold for my tribe!" It looks like Aubry stepped off early to me. Maybe they can step off once they're past the wooden platform.  I'm beginning to get an inkling of why Debby blows up later... She's going to take home nothing more than a lead nickel for her tribe.

Mmm . . . PBJ, cookies and milk... a reward kindergardners would fight over... Now why is Debbie pissed? She screwed up? Brad's so dictatorial - she said she has good balance and he tells her to go ahead and do it.  Sounds dictatorial to me!! Looks like grape jelly on that peanut butter to me.  Yellow snake . . . symbolic foreshadowing of a shadow alliance between Sarah and Troyzan?? No - it's about Troyzan lying about his idol.

Brad about Debbie: "Is she acting?"  Ha ha! What is Debbie so mad about? Oh because she's at the bottom because Brad (in her mind) put her at the bottom of the totem pole. Is Debbie delusional?? Haley dicked around and Debbie zipped across the balance beam? If I'd missed up the challenge I'd apologize and keep my mouth shut. But maybe she's going on the offensive to make the others defensive and to forestall criticism of her performance. Debbie's 8-pack looks like a rib cage to me. How can anyone keep a straight face during this?? But she used the word "wanker"!  I think she's pranking the tribe.

Sandra, how funny, eating up the sugar! Varner's loving it.  Now why is Michaela being close-captioned? I can understand her just fine. She is funny, too. Now where is this magic board?  Gosh, Debbie, gymnastics for 10 years? She's not pranking, she's just delusional. But she sure is happy when they win! Balance beams again!

[LadyChatts]

This was one of the best and most weirdest TC ever.  Sweet justice!  What a difference from last week.  In tears over my beloved man bun getting booted by the dumbest twist in Survivor history, to doing a little dance at the dumbest Survivor in history making the dumbest move in Survivor history.  

Next time you come back JT, bring your chaperone Fishbach with you.  He's the only person that can make you look good in this game.

Edited March 30, 2017 by LadyChatts

[jsm1125]

That was the most satisfying boot in quite some time! Someone should tell JT that complaining about someone isn't the same as babysitting! I do not understand his genuine hatred for Michaela.

I am in awe that Sandra has made it through four tribal councils without one vote against her!

Edited March 30, 2017 by jsm1125

[vb68]

I was ready for someone, anyone, to scream full volume at Debbie to STFU! 

JT is such an arrogant idiot.

[mojoween]

We saw Debbie not make the balance beam, right?  And she said she wanted to do it, she wasn't ordered to?

Or am I as crazy as she appears to be?

Mana winning immunity was very disappointing.  I only want bad things to happen to that tribe.

JT, shut the fuck up.  It's not "ignorant" to want a pile of sugar in a little bit of coffee, ass.

I used to root for him and while I don't hate him, they were both annoying.

Michaela drinking "coffee" at TC was hysterical.

Sandra, you are so juvenile.  And it's not even a little bit endearing.  And stop referring to yourself as the Queen for fuck's sake.

[Lamb18]

That squid or stingray means someone is underwater? Sandra is so funny - that look at the camera! I like Michaela much better than J.T. I guess J.T. is the tribe member underwater.  I wonder if that balance beam will be used for every challenge for the rest of the season and for the following two seasons. See now, Debbie needs to take humility lessons from J.T., at least fake humility lessons. Aubry is so over it. She's saying to herself: "Please let me go to Ponderosa and hang out with Malcolm!" Sarcasm: this tribal is really showing me why everyone on J. T.'s first season thought he deserved to win more than anyone else!" Now for the sad viola music.

Ha ha! And he's out with an idol in his pocket!!  But I'm really seeing now why people like Sandra so much.

This was a fun episode to watch. Only negative: the challenges are getting boring - can't we see something different?

[cleo]

The idols are ridiculous. They should have a new rule if you use one, you can't use any others. 

[PaperTree]

Boom!  

The Queen reigns another cycle.

Great con by Sandra, Varner and Mik.  JT goes home with an idol.  LMAO!

eta: Aubrey was classy after the vote, I like her flying low.

Edited March 30, 2017 by PaperTree

[Lamb18]

1 minute ago, mojoween said:

Or am I as crazy as she appears to be?

You are not crazy. Or, if you are, I am too.

[LadyChatts]

Glad Michaela finally got to show off her challenge poweress.  She is all sorts of awesome.  Wish she brought the empty sugar bowl with her and used her fingers to lick out the remnants.  

Also glad that Hali totally showed Debbie up in that challenge.  Especially since they had a lead.  I guess the show loves Brad enough that they are willing to play back a clip to show Debbie totally contradicting herself.  And....who took 10 minutes to get across the balance beam, Deb?  Hali didn't seem to have much trouble, aside from that first run.  What a sore loser.  I do feel sorry that Hali hadn't won anything at that point.  If anyone has any reason to throw a tantrum, it's her.  Debbie also realizes that the IC wasn't just about the balance beam, right?  She's a freaking lunatic.  She's not even good TV.  She can go next.  I hate all of NuMana, except Hali.

Hello Sarah!  Welcome to the game.  Totally forgot you were there.

We need to see more Varner.  Aubry doesn't seem like she's in a good spot.  

Idols have really ruined this game for me.

[susannot]

Dammit!  I was bored with this season until tonight.  Can ANYONE STOP SANDRA?  As Aubry said, Damn, you guys are good.  I am in love with the threesome of Sandra, Michaela, and Varner.  Whoa, JT, you moron.  Voted out AGAIN with an idol in your pocket.

 

Also add that I despise Debbie and still cannot remember Sarah at all.  Sierra was impressive tonight.

[wallflower75]

Good Lord…Debbie, Debbie, Debbie.  How short your memory is.  Gotta love the Survivor editors for pointing out right after she accused Culpepper of running a dictatorship that she insisted on doing that particular part of the challenge.   Now, my mom is not someone who casually drops F-bombs, so imagine my shock when, in response to Debbie saying that people needed to shut the F up, Mom said, “Maybe you should shut the F up for a change.”

I said this elsewhere, but I still can’t believe the stupidity of the Nuku tribe for leaving J.T. alone by himself.  They suspected he was hunting for an idol, so they went off and left him alone again??  On the other hand…given that J.T. was too cocky to play it when he knew he could be on the chopping block, it didn’t matter in the end.  He didn't even bring it with him??????  Idiot, idiot, idiot.

[vb68]

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But I'm really seeing now why people like Sandra so much.

That stunt with the sugar really was classic Sandra.  The same person who burned Russell's hat and dumped the fish back in her first season.  Those stunts always work for her for some reason. 

Edited March 30, 2017 by vb68

[ElleryAnne]

I <3 Michaela.  

And WHO does JT think he is, complaining about anyone else's ratio of sugar to coffee, anyway?  Glad he's gone.  Nice dig by Michaela at the end, telling him to let Malcolm know it was JT who got him eliminated.  

It has gone from funny watching Debbie to a bit uncomfortable, like laughing at someone who may actually have mental issues.  

[Rachel RSL]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  *ahem* Sorry.  Wait...HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! 

Like we needed more proof that JT is a moron. Seeing that sexist dumbass (Honey bun? Really?) get booted with an idol was just glorious. He didn't even bring it to TC. Good grief!

So happy that Queen Sandra lives to see another day! She moved that target off herself and firmly on to Michaela so easily, it was hilarious.

Edited March 30, 2017 by Rachel RSL

[Etta Place]

That was a masterclass in manipulation, taught by Sandra.

[Pepper the Cat]

Is Debbie delusional?? Or just nuts?

poor J.T. What a blindside,

[truthaboutluv]

I totally saw that blindside coming but boy was it sweet. After that incredible fuck up last tribal, JT's dumb ass needed to go. Boy did Jeff and Sandra play him well to the point he left with an idol in his pocket (or did he even bring it with him). The moment Sandra and Jeff were being so open about likely voting for Michaela and siding with JT, I knew they were playing him to make sure if he had an idol, he'd feel so confident, he wouldn't play it. And my guess is they told Michaela the plan and she played along perfectly, acting like she even accepted her fate.

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Is Debbie delusional?? Or just nuts?

Um, she's both? I cannot believe Debbie insisted she got through the balance beam quicker than Hali. And her constant bitching while the challenge was going on was ridiculous. I'm amazed none of the people in her tribe told her to shut the hell up. And I see she still has her ten thousand careers.  Did she mention the gymnast career in her first season? I don't remember that one. 

Edited March 30, 2017 by truthaboutluv

[Michichick]

Debbie continues to be delusional about her skills. So tired of her and her stupidity.

J.T.'s tribe did an awesome job making him feel comfortable and conning him into thinking he was staying.

Varner's obvious delight at assorted shenanigans is a pleasure to watch. I crack up watching him crack up.

[Straycat80]

I wanted the team Debbie is on to lose so bad! I couldn't stand her on her season and I can't stand her crazy ass this one. Can't wait to see her get the boot!

I knew JT was gone when he didn't play that idol. I used to like Sandra and Michaela but I don't like how mean they've become. I know this is a cut throat game but I think they would be mad if they had been voted off and it was rubbed in with snarky remarks. Did JT. Deserve to be voted off? Yes. But they could have saved the hate, it made them look like petty mean girls. 

[annewithaneee]

I yelled at my TV (you know, like a crazy person) "oh, go the FUCK home" when JT called Michaela 'honey bunny' in one of the sugar spats. I just love it when one of Survivor's casually sexist dudes (and are there always a lot of those to go around) gets a satisfying boot.

I've been in a real mood all day today, so it was oddly cathartic to see so many hangry, frustrated people on display. Michaela's not long for this game, but she is my spirit animal and my new fave after that coffee-sipping stunt and expert hair-toss at TC. 

[Dust Bunny]

Wow. JT should not have returned. Any esteem I ever had for him is gone. 

A swap? Exile Island? A returning player? In one episode? Really, show? I'm so sick of the novelties. It all becomes meaningless.

I want Michaela to take it to the house. 

[FormerMod-a1]

I am so glad JT went over Michaela.  I love Micheala.   I still don't know why no one is considering Sandra at tribals.

[LadyChatts]

9 minutes ago, truthaboutluv said:

I totally saw that blindside coming but boy was it sweet. After that incredible fuck up last tribal, JT's dumb ass needed to go. Boy did Jeff and Sandra play him well to the point he left with an idol in his pocket (or did he even bring it with him). The moment Sandra and Jeff were being so open about likely voting for Michaela and siding with JT, I knew they were playing him to make sure if he had an idol, he'd feel so confident, he wouldn't play it. And my guess is they told Michaela the plan and she played along perfectly, acting like she even accepted her fate.

I actually thought it was the worst acting job, but then I remember that JT hadn't seen Michaela's original season, and knew she likely wouldn't be sitting quietly if she thought she was going home.  In addition, she must have learned something about going along with being a fake boot because she handled herself very well.  They seemed to be making it so obvious that i was beginning to think JT was going to write someone else's name down, play his idol, and blindside his whole tribe.

[rustyspigot]

At least Debbie wasn't involved in the sugar fight she would have claimed to own a sugar factory.

[vb68]

3 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

I used to like Sandra and Michaela but I don't like how mean they've become. I know this is a cut throat game but I think they would be mad if they had been voted off and it was rubbed in with snarky remarks. Did JT. Deserve to be voted off? Yes. But they could have saved the hate, it made them look like petty mean girls. 

JT was hardly a shrinking violet, though.  I think he was giving as good as he got.  His impression of Michaela at Tribal was especially unnecessary, IMO.

[mishap]

I can enjoy the quirky and the weird, but Debbie has past her expiration date.  She's full out nuts. 

Jt did not even bring his idol. 

I thought Sandra and Michaela over sold it a bit ---  tried a little to hard to make JT feel confident he was safe.  I  thought JT might see that, and get suspicious.  But the fool didn't even bring the idol with him.  Tsk tsk.  Deserved to go for that reason, if nothing else. 

So, if someone finds that idol, is is still valid?  No one knew he had it, so they won't know to look, but  you could stumble on it, couldn't you? Or do they have staff remove the idol, if something like that happens? 

[Ms Blue Jay]

13 minutes ago, Etta Place said:

That was a masterclass in manipulation, taught by Sandra.

Exactly.  She accounted for the idol this time.  Even if JT had brought it he wouldn't have played it, because Sandra played him like a fiddle.  Aubry sounded so stupid that I thought she was in on it.  You moron?  You're DONE with Michaela AT CAMP?  What the fuck does that even mean?  It bothers you that she's not a coffee drinker?  I admit that I really liked Aubry during her season and wish she had won.  This is like a whole new brand of editors who aren't drinking her Kool-Aid, or else I don't know what.  

I love the Survivor editors, showing all the lies Debbie was telling.  The Debbie psychosis was hilarious.  I admit it.  It was totally nuts.

If Tony comes back, I will be so happy.  Haha, this is the best show on TV.  

Michaela with the drinking at Tribal.  How did Jeff not laugh.  Queen of Memes.  That was for the AGES.

I love Ozzy, I love Tai, I love this show.  This episode was one big exercise in letting the fools think what they want and coddling them.  Red tribe with Debbie, and Sandra's tribe with JT.  LOL.  

Does anyone think that they edit the challenges to make them seem so much closer than they are?  I don't know why Ozzy and I aren't married yet

Edited March 30, 2017 by Ms Blue Jay

[LanceM]

Debbie is certifiably insane and I love the editors did a flashback of her saying how "good" she was at balancing.  Did I miss the part where Hali was the princess of that tribe? lol  

JT is a dumbass. I mean how dumb and cocky can you be to think you didn't need to play that idol.

[jsm1125]

3 minutes ago, rustyspigot said:

At least Debbie wasn't involved in the sugar fight she would have claimed to own a sugar factory.

Or have invented sugar.

[enlightenedbum]

1) This is my first experience with Debbie, so: yikes.  Gaslighting or too crazy to be allowed on the show?  I'm confused.

2) Andrea casually smokes a couple more challenges.  She's a badass.  That team is absolutely stacked, by the way.  Ozzy and Andrea are general athletic badasses top five for their gender in the show's history, Troy is solid in challenges especially for his age, Zeke's damn good at puzzles, Cirie's good for any brawn challenge because all the other women are tiny or Sandra who is not athletic anyway, and Sarah's no slouch.

3) Uncomfortable with JT's treatment of Michaela.  Likes to infantilize her, which is troubling, especially from a white (southern) dude.

4) HAHAHA.  Sandra being a manipulative stealing stuff jerk: kind of funny when it's aimed to destroy a guy who's acting like an asshole.  Michaela pulling out a mug at tribal council to celebrate JT's demise?  One of the funniest fucking things I've ever seen on this show.  The only way it could have been better would be if she had done a spit take on the third JT vote.

[Lantern7]

When JT found the idol, I went on Facebook and speculated that he would send it to Russell. That might actually happen. What a dope. He couldn't get his head out of his ass to tell that he'd get votes? See, this is why Stephen burned himself out trying to play the game . . . because he didn't want to known as the guy who didn't get a single vote against that tool.

I"m Team Debbie. She's a little delusional, she has a short memory,and she takes things too hard. On the other hand? Brad. Also, I like the idea of somebody gettin get bitched out during a challenge.

And Sandra remains queen, though it might have been better if she dug a hole and dumped the sugar. And I loved the face she made to the camera. Now the big question is whether she'll pack it in, especially since JT and Tony can't match her record.

[lyric]

Wow, JT...you've got a real mean streak there, pal.  Why all the vitriol toward Michaela? Eh, glad he's gone either way.   Debbie's off her nut - seriously uncomfortable watching her spin out.  

I miss Malcolm.

[Lovely]

Still trying to figure out how JT won his season. If this season isn't solid proof(along with HvV) that Stephen Fishbach should have won over JT then I don't know what will do it. He is an absolutely terrible player and it was so satisfying to see him go tonight...with an idol in his pocket. his disdain for Michaela seemed a bit over the top.

He has no one to blame but himself. He killed his game the minute he gave Brad that info. I hope this means we'll never see him again.

[escatefromny]

Maybe it is just me, but the editing seems off somehow.  Last week things seemed so rushed - which in retrospect made sense because of the epic tribal counsel - but tonight seemed wonky too.  The JT/Michaela stuff seemed to come from nowhere and the random Sarah stuff seemed misplaced.  The cast all seem either over it or a little too jaded and maybe they just aren't giving the editors much to work with ... just seems sloppy vs. the tight editing and narrative I've come to expect.

[Eolivet]

I just kept saying "Stay away from seashells, Michaela!"

Wow, Sandra. #YASKWEEN, as the kids say.

I wondered why they were showing the strategize part of the challenge (which they never show), but it was to set up Debbie's meltdown. I hope it sends her home, but I fear it may have booked her goat ticket to the final 3. Then again, it's pre-merge, but still. The fact she actually said that to Hali, about her being up Brad's rear end (or him up her rear end, I can't remember) was so oddly...specific and graphic and at that point, I think she crossed a line from harmless ranting to borderline harassment.

[ShadowSixx]

Michaela, so damn funny at TC, sipping that water and whipped her hair when JT was voted out. She's such a highlight.

JT suffers from dumbass-itis. Didn't bring his idol, is he fucking for real? He had to know that there was some target on his back. This also explains why Sandra has got to go, these guys don't realize the player she is. She was speaking like she was voting for Michaela but voted JT. Sandra is not a GOAT, this is a person you need to get rid of.

Debbie needed to STFU. She looked like Lady Tremaine, jealous of Cinderella Hali. It was just over the top, someone really should have found some Ritalin for her ass. How can she blame Hali for the balance beam when Debbie herself said she was in gymnastics and her 8 pack yet was completely worthless during the reward challenge?? She was mad at herself and just taking it out on Hali.

[susannot]

1 minute ago, mishap said:

I can enjoy the quirky and the weird, but Debbie has past her expiration date.  She's full out nuts. 

Jt did not even bring his idol. 

I thought Sandra and Michaela over sold it a bit ---  tried a little to hard to make JT feel confident he was safe.  I  thought JT might see that, and get suspicious.  But the fool didn't even bring the idol with him.  Tsk tsk.  Deserved to go for that reason, if nothing else. 

I thought they played him perfectly--he was so sure that everyone agreed with his somewhat racist views of Michaela (she's lazy in camp; she mooches food) that he was blinded to her good points.

1 minute ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Exactly.  She accounted for the idol this time.  Even if JT had brought it he wouldn't have played it, because Sandra played him like a fiddle.  Aubry sounded so stupid that I thought she was in on it.  You moron?  You're DONE with Michaela AT CAMP?  What the fuck does that even mean?  It bothers you that she's not a coffee drinker?

Sandra played him like a fiddle.  I love it.  He didn't stand a chance.  She read him as an overbearing sexist who wold underrate all women and who thought he could not lose.

[vb68]

5 minutes ago, ShadowSixx said:

How can she blame Hali for the balance beam when Debbie herself said she was in gymnastics and her 8 pack yet was completely worthless during the reward challenge?? She was mad at herself and just taking it out on Hali.

I thought Debbie was trying to bait Hali into a fight to get the heat off herself, but Hali had no interest in playing Debbie's game.  I was pretty impressed that Hali just kept her head down and didn't really respond to her.

Edited March 30, 2017 by vb68

[Lamb18]

I'm still puzzling over Debbie. Crazy or crazily clever? Totally paranoid bonkers or doing a preemptive strike to get everyone uncomfortable and tentative, trying to avoid her minefield of delusional craziness?

[MKL122788]

So, real talk, does anyone think Sandra's primary goal was to make sure there cannot be another two time winner?

[susannot]

Or playing the deliberate goat strategy that we have speculated about for years?

[ShadowSixx]

Debbie's energy sure as hell wasn't needed during IC. She was acting like an ass and when Hali dropped a bag she scoffs like "Miss 8 Pack Gymnastics" would have done better. Imagine if they had loss, she would have blamed Hali again.

[LadyChatts]

10 minutes ago, Lamb18 said:

I'm still puzzling over Debbie. Crazy or crazily clever? Totally paranoid bonkers or doing a preemptive strike to get everyone uncomfortable and tentative, trying to avoid her minefield of delusional craziness?

I don't know what it is, but I just want her gone.

The NuMana 4 completely sucked walking into the RC with Debbie's stupid "all here" and their cocky little smiles.  

Edited March 30, 2017 by LadyChatts

[susannot]

1 minute ago, MKL122788 said:

So, real talk, does anyone think Sandra's primary goal was to make sure there cannot be another two time winner?

Definitely.  And, I would really love to see Sandra on the jury.

[Vyk]

2 minutes ago, LadyChatts said:

The NuMana 4 completely sucked walking into the RC with Debbie's stupid "all here" and their cocky little smiles.  

I didn't consider that cocky at all.  I'm no Debbie fan, but I took that as being happy that their tribe remained intact for at least a little longer, and that a real threat was eliminated.

[sally-can-wait]

I’m not the biggest Sandra fan but that was an absolute joy watching her school JT and Aubry like that.

...Oh and Debbie is cray cray.

[sadiegirl1999]

I got so excited that TPTB were showing us strategy about who plays during challenges.

I was so disappointed that it was to show Debbie's delusion.