S07.E16: Big Buddha Brawl

[zoeysmom]

Moving on to Rinna and the cocaine allegations. . . nice way to defame eight people, I was wondering if perhaps production didn't call Dorit and the others away so, Dorit and PK could dispense with the dead wood (the six guests) so  Rinna, PK, Dorit and Elliot could finish the conversation.  Certainly no one in their right mind (be it induced or otherwise) would believe in front of a camera crew the entire party would get up and go do cocaine in the bathroom.

I do think newbies have a difficult time with fourth wall issues even when it would bail them out of a situation.  I am hoping in the next few days one of the party guests will comment.

[Yolo]

Regarding panty gate: I think maybe the other ladies thought it was funny whereas Dorit was being the asshole she's been to Ericka("aka her English humor")

I believe Ericka had been holding all her frustration in regarding Dorit and that's what the end result was. She had it coming, I would've done the same thing. But I would've stopped Dorit in her tracks the first time, I don't play that. IMO!

Team Erika STILL!

Edited March 22, 2017 by Yolo

[KungFuBunny]

This is a test:

http://tttv.podbean.com/

Ronnie Karam's latest BH audiobook.

Just hit play on Shang-Ho Surprise.

I didn't get to to see the whole episode yet (I'm losing my mind a la.....(Insert one of the following: Erika, Dorit, Rinna)

Edited March 22, 2017 by KungFuBunny

[ElDosEquis]

3 minutes ago, Jamie Satyr said:

I only have one office story, but since it goes back 35 years, no one back then thought anything of it! I was on vacation, but stopped by office for my check! I was dressed in tennis gear and back in the 70's & 80's shorts were SHORTS! First the Adm. Asst asked the room "why is Jamie wearing stocking?" The big boss, a woman with huge glasses ran over and actually touched my legs and told the other woman "girl, these are his legs!" I was rather smooth and quite tanned I guess! Nothing came of it, but today I could have filed suit! lol! ;-)

I worked for an operating room and we would supply scrubs to the vendors to sit on the procedures.

The vendors would come and pick up the key, get a set of scrubs and go change in the locker room.

One day I was sitting with my back to the door when one of the reps comes in after her procedure. I turn around because she asked me a question and begins to peel off the scrub bottoms.

I think to myself, WTF is she DOING?

When she got them to knee level I caught a glimpse of the skin on her rear end and went blank, I made some kind of animal noise and turned back to my computer and she started to laugh like a maniac.

 

She walked over to the desk and I could feel the embarrassment working it's way up my neck to my head - I wasn't going to look at her! She kept telling me that it was OK for me to look at her and kept inching forward, trying to catch my eye.

Turns out she grabbed a set of XL scrubs and threw them on OVER her clothes -She was wearing a TAN pair of pants underneath that looked like her skin. We laughed so hard, one of the bitches from down the hall reported us for making noise!

[msblossom]

That was just strange. Erica is one strange bird . Eileen bringing up Erica's son did not warrant such a twisted reaction. I think Erika started to see red when Eileen said Dorit didn't have malicious intent and she crossed over into the twilight zone. I'm not a big fan of Eileen but I actually felt bad for her.

[bichonblitz]

 Rinna 100% lost me this ep when Dorit and Erika were fighting on the boat and Rinna jumps up, gets in Dorit's face and gives her the finger!  What grown ass woman does something like that? Way to make yourself look like a juvenile moron, Rinna. 

Erika demanding Dorit apologize to her husband. You have embarrassed your husband a million times over just by being on this shit show, honey.  And how much crying do you do for your son when you're flying all over the world to perform your tacky second rate shows and video's. Stop with the dramatics, you already got the part on Y & R, no need to keep auditioning. 

[Jamie Satyr]

5 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

 Rinna 100% lost me this ep when Dorit and Erika were fighting on the boat and Rinna jumps up, gets in Dorit's face and gives her the finger!  What grown ass woman does something like that? Way to make yourself look like a juvenile moron, Rinna. 

Erika demanding Dorit apologize to her husband. You have embarrassed your husband a million times over just by being on this shit show, honey.  And how much crying do you do for your son when you're flying all over the world to perform your tacky second rate shows and video's. Stop with the dramatics, you already got the part on Y & R, no need to keep auditioning. 

Amen ad hallelujah to that! ;-)

[bosawks]

39 minutes ago, ElDosEquis said:

It was cold, so there really was nothing to see that day....

---------

My mom was the QUEEN of one liners.

Not jokes, just tips to put things into perspective.

Two that come to mind for this episode?

"Things only get dirty/obscene when people make them dirty/obscene."

"Two needles will never prick each other."

And yet two pricks will needle each other.....

[Wings]

Rinna and her cocaine question may have been a product of her being an actor and desire to give them a good show.  I keep going back to an interview she gave, in her first season.  She liked Brandy because she was easy "to play off of."   There have been other comments eluding to this being a TV show, implying fiction, when asked about her behavior.  "It is a TV show guys!" was one response.  If it is job security she seeks, she has it!  

ETA. She has even said she wants to give them a good show!

Edited March 22, 2017 by wings707

[ElDosEquis]

9 minutes ago, bosawks said:

And yet two pricks will needle each other.....

LOLOLOL, Good One!

[Juliegirlj]

I assume Erika's son is in his mid twenties. And he is in law enforcement. I have sons around the same age, and although they love that I am a free spirit, I think they would be mortified if I tried to pass myself off as an "entertainer" of the EJ sort. Any mother of a cop would and should worry about them, but what did Erika go through every night during her son's childhood ??!! 

I hope Erika and Rinna get boiled at the reunion. Nothing embarrasses Rinna though. 

Erika pushing the idea that she is so fabulous makes me happy to know that underneath it all is a bitter, haughty, insecure as F woman. 

[ivygirl]

58 minutes ago, QuiteContraryMoni said:

LMAO!! You didn't hold the Spanish Inquisition (which, incidentally, nobody ever expects) over it?! See how easy it is to not be a drama queen?! Keep it moving folks, nothing to see here.

Well, not NOTHING to see, LOL

...

Rinna and her need to bring ancient, random, and nastily phrased things up at dinner tables. Ridiculous. 

And Erika with the overreaction. You all have said it all (that's what I get for missing the first showing, LOL!). But she really needs to take a step back and look at her behavior if she sincerely wonders why she--who outright SAYS she has a hard time trusting people and hates crying in public--comes off as cold to some people. If you keep most people at arms' length... you will come across as cold, especially to someone as "out there" as Dorit.

[The Mighty Peanut]

I think the Erika thing can be summed up pretty simply: she was drunk and everything seemed epically important at that moment. 

I am not a fan of Rinna, but damn if I didn't laugh when she said Dorit was a downer "like this" and took a pill out of the bag. 

[walnutqueen]

As I watched with a delighted mixture of awe and horror, I kept thinking of alternate episode titles:

"The Ice Queen Melteth(DOWN)"

"(HUGE)Loose Lips Sink Ships"

"What Ever Happened to Erika Jayne?"

"Buddha Wept"

 

Everyone "brought it" last night except Our Lady of Perpetual Hugs and Intensity, Eden, who just stares unblinkingly and always looks like she's sucking on a lemon wedge.

Edited March 22, 2017 by walnutqueen

[kokapetl]

"I don't actually believe that she could be this diluted (deluded)" - Dorit

[Wings]

Erika admitted she overreacted on WWHL and that is good enough for me.  I have warmed to her this season and chalked up her emotion to jet lag coupled with Dorit chewing on her face like a sewer rat.  Sometimes it is difficult to stay in control.  Rinna never does!  

[racked]

18 minutes ago, wings707 said:

Rinna and her cocaine question may have been a product of her being an actor and desire to give them a good show.  I keep going back to an interview she gave, in her first season.  She liked Brandy because she was easy "to play off of."   There have been other comments eluding to this being a TV show, implying fiction, when asked about her behavior.  "It is a TV show guys!" was one response.  If it is job security she seeks, she has it!  

ETA. She has even said she wants to give them a good show!

I wonder if this is true though, regarding job security. She seems very willing to be the villain, but villains don't last forever on these shows. I mean look at Brandi.

She figured out pretty quickly last season that she can't truly go up against LVP, but I don't think her attempts this year have been much smarter. I do think she can be entertaining at times, but damn she was a lot last night. 

[ElDosEquis]

11 minutes ago, walnutqueen said:

As I watched with a delighted mixture of awe and horror, I kept thinking of alternate episode titles:

"The Ice Queen Melteth(DOWN)"

"(HUGE)Loose Lips Sink Ships"

"What Ever Happened to Erika Jayne?"

"Buddha Wept"

 

Everyone "brought it" last night except Our Lady of Perpetual Hugs, Eden, who just stares unblinkingly and always looks like she's sucking on a lemon wedge.

A Pack of Lips, now?

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Pussy?

Gone Girls?

Saving Erica's Privates?

Xanax-Du?

[ElDosEquis]

50 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

 Rinna 100% lost me this ep when Dorit and Erika were fighting on the boat and Rinna jumps up, gets in Dorit's face and gives her the finger!  What grown ass woman does something like that? Way to make yourself look like a juvenile moron, Rinna. 

Erika demanding Dorit apologize to her husband. You have embarrassed your husband a million times over just by being on this shit show, honey.  And how much crying do you do for your son when you're flying all over the world to perform your tacky second rate shows and video's. Stop with the dramatics, you already got the part on Y & R, no need to keep auditioning. 

EJ is trying out for the female lead of the remake of the James bond flick, Goldfinger.

What do you think she could bring to the Pussy Galore character?

[ElDosEquis]

LOL....

 

Inspect Her "Gadget"?

Beverly Hills Snob?

Down and Out in Beverly Hills?

The Devil wears Chanel?

50 shades of Who Are YOU Wearing?

[thesupremediva1]

I'm amazed that, after receiving an apology months ago, Erica managed to attack Dorit,  get others to go in on her, and then SHE ends up crying? Puh-leez.

She really should have made it clear to Dorit that she was pissed. Not said it was done. It wasn't. Erica is the one who blew it out of proportion, months after it was a closed matter.

Dorit tried for months to befriend Erica - that's why she's frustrated. She has been given clearance to now give up, and she should take it. Fuck if I'd have my husband call and apologize to Tom. Erica get GTFO with that nonsense.

I have the utmost respect for those in uniform, and I stand shoulder to shoulder with Erica in her need for shutting down any rhetoric that demonizes police officers or minimizes the risk they face on a daily basis. But her reaction towards Eileen was beyond unhinged. Eileen spoke in hyperbole - poorly chosen, yes, but she apologized and owned it immediately. Erica, you can't have it both ways. You can't want to keep your walls up and say nothing and then lash out at people like that when they touch a nerve. They don't know they've touched it. Ask them calmly and politely to shut it down and move on. You can't curse someone out and go on and on over it and then gleefully accept more hugs of support. I actually side with Dorit here - Erica's self-importance has  gone to her head. The reaction to Eileen sealed it for me - this isn't about Dorit or PK or Pantygate. This is about Erica and the whacked ways she processes or does not process her emotion.

And I've been Team Rinna from Day 1, ever since she played Taylor McBride on Melrose. I will side with her any day of the week in the Kim situation. BUT, yo girl, we're done now. You went after Dorit's husband after basically trying to maul Kim for doing the same. Hypocrisy of the highest order. Glad Kyle and LVP called her out on it. I honestly believe she just runs her mouth to cause controversy and keep the gig. No one is that obtuse.

After this ep I'm... empathizing with Dorit? WOW. What a doozie of an ep. Erica and her glam squad can leave any time. I shouldn't have expected more from anyone who positioned themselves as LemonLyme's lap dog. 

Edited March 22, 2017 by thesupremediva1

[bosawks]

House of Wax?

[Natalie68]

Ok that was a shit show.  I am going to have to do another viewing because this was off the chain.  Random thoughts:

Kyle: I would not have liked that ride with the see through floor either.  But unlike you all I would have dressed appropriately for the excursion.

Dorit:  I have not really liked her but there are times where I think she's ok.  She handled the dinner pile on very well.  There were several moments where I thought had it been me I would have gotten up and left after telling them (Lisa R and Erika) to fuck off.  I do think she was belaboring pantygate too much trying to make a bigger deal out of it.  I think it has less to do with Erika than getting a storyline.  BUT at some point you have to take someone at their word that things are fine (ERIKA!).  I thought it was lame she was dissing the glam squad when she had her own.  PK is icky.  I also think she was trying to stir something with the bag of pills because she brought it up too many times.  But I don't see an evilness to her.  Just naive and hungry.  

Eileen is pretty boring for the most part.  Nice of her to go with LVP to her Yulin deal.  She needs to cut Rinna off and quit defending her blindly.  I think she was horrified at the coke accusation.  I really felt awful for her when Erika ripped her a new one. Which leads me to...

Erika:  I think I understand WHY pantygate was an issue for her.  It seems like she has some pretty hefty rules with her husband and she is afraid of getting into trouble.  I thought her treatment of Dorit was pretty bad and it seemed like Dorit was sincere that she was sorry once she saw it from Erika's point of view.  I also think the other ladies were giving her mixed messages about the situation (laughing about it when they should have told Dorit how mad Erika was).  Then we have Eileen make a poor choice of words and her FRIEND Erika treats her horribly.  I get being mad but jezus christ!  Maybe don't go for blood (I know that interaction would make me change how I act with said 'friend').  Then no matter what Dorit OR Eileen say in their respective apologies it just is not enough.  Erika is THE MOST ungracious person when it comes to apologies given to her.  I am thinking Erika is wound tighter than a drum.  I was starting to like you Erika, now I am not so sure.  You went for the throat of your ONE true fan on the show.  Friends don't do that to each other.  You can fight and define boundaries but she was unnecessarily cruel.  Wonder if that (cruelness) is something she picked up from her mom when she talks about her mom being hard on her?  

Lisa Rinna:  Man she is a prime shit stirrer.  Dorit and Erika were talking and this human suction cup would not shut the fuck up!  Her jumping in and taking over them was perplexing and maddening.  It had nothing to do with her.  She seems like she just can't abide by not being part of the situation.   Bragging how she got in Dorits face?  That just shows she has zero self control.  I gave her the benefit of the doubt after Amsterdam, started giving her the side eye last year, now I think she is shit.  I can't stand Kim Richards so perhaps that is why I didn't hold her more accountable in Amsterdam.  Last year the whole deal was about a conversation OFF THE SHOW so while I took LVP/Kyles side more, it was a toss up in my mind how it went.  Now I am more on LVP's side since we have seen Lisa R work.  How no one tossed her over the junk boat is beyond me.  Then the coke accusation and the do you trust your husband question.  Very inappropriate.  I am very anxiously awaiting her getting her ass handed to her at the reunion.  She was so smug and condescending.  When LR brought up the do you trust your husband question and Kyle kinda lost it I was watching Kyles face while she was speaking about Amsterdam and the husband questions going badly it made me think Kim was actually onto something.  I am thinking infidelity has visited the Rinna/Hamlin home and Kyles look was a veiled threat about are you sure you want to go down that path?

Again, this is going to take a second viewing but this was epic.  It told me Lisa Rinna is worse than I previously thought and Erika is cruel.  Eileen wants to be a good friend and ends up looking like fool (both Lisa R and Erika have abused her kindness).  LVP trying to stand up for Dorit without being her guard dog was nice.  Kyle was just happy she was on the outside but her expressions were gold.  Eden being silent was a gift from baby jesus.

[zoeysmom]

Viewers ask Andy that Rinna not return:  http://www.refinery29.com/2017/03/146493/real-housewives-of-beverly-hills-lisa-rinna-fan-reactions

[ElDosEquis]

The Lost Weekend.

The Fuck-It List?

Snakes on a Plane?

Dude, I Lost my Mind?

Game of Crones?

[SFoster21]

Erica is an absolute hoot.  Especially her mini-drag race moments with her queens.  "I am serving you..." [All props to RuPaul, but his show dialogue is endlessly repetitive and dull (and every Housewife repeats the same endless dull slang -- dull in 1970 in "Paris Is Burning")] -- Samurai Barbie is not an aesthetic, it's a drag queen look.

Glam squad aside, her visit home illuminated Erica's ideal look:  Daisy Mae goes to Manhattan.  The Daisy Mae is always there.

[Natalie68]

13 hours ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

Fuck you Erika. I understand the worry for your son, but your reaction was way OTT. You made me feel sympathy for Eileen and I'm not sure how to handle that. BTW...you looked like hot buttered ass at that dinner.

Really fuck you, Rinna. This episode cemented your place as my most hated Howife ever. You disgust me more than Tamra, Gretchen, Madame Dubrow, Kenya, Jillzy, Aviva, and Brandi combined. I hope your ass is nailed to the wall at the reunion. Also, whipping out the baggie during your TH wasn't cute or funny. It was fucking juvenile.

I really liked that red wire wrapped around Dorit's ponytail.

Um, I am gonna have to steal this.  I will give appropriate attribution when doing so.

[Addison de Pitt]

Erika Jayne, Girardi or whatever her true name is simply nuts—or a master manipulator. Or, hell, something as common as a phony, as ugly and self-centered on the inside as she may be good looking on the outside. Reminding us again that "beautiful people" are not necessarily so and that a book's cover may be and often is misleading. This woman—who knows what arrangement she has with her rich husband—is a hyper-pampered jerk; one we may argue has not known real hardship for most of her adult life, at least not since she struck gold with daddy warlocks Girardi. Yet she indulges in grotesque displays of wealth, taking her "glam squad" everywhere she goes, something that until recently not even actual royalty did. A totally unpleasant personality. Did I leave anything out?

But of all the bullshit we have seen on these franchises—and there's plenty to go around, as these twits are experts at squandering life on petty egotistical quarrels—few episodes match Erika's implosion on her supposedly great grievance over "pantygate." And her hysterical, self-righteous and bullying outburst and menacing look over someone bringing up a matter of simple proportionality, or, rather DISPROPORTIONALITY. Eileen pointed out the obvious, that the whole fight was over something picayune and forgettable, not something involving an insult or a threat to a child, etc. This appeal to common sense, a solid correction, made Erika J go ballistic. 

This is ironic because Eileen, a master at keeping petty grievances alive (we saw that with her constant harping over some grievance she held over something forgettable with LVP) had actually struck what we might call a reasonable position in this case: that the whole pantygate bullshit is that; and that whatever Dorit may be, snobbishness aside, she isn't guilty of anything except a fleeting "minor infraction", if that, par for the course in the lives of superficial people like these. As we might have expected, in Erika's curt of sycophants heads roll for far lesser infractions. and Eileen soon got cut to ribbons by a fulminating Erika, who, frankly, seemed ready to explode, not a welcome event in her proximity given that she is a big, brawny baby. But it gets better. What do you think happens next?  Eileen, pussy that she is, caved in. She should have held her ground, as she was right in what she said, but she caved in, and that is a shame. Bullies like Erika need to be confronted and put in their places. Always. This should always be applied to people as well as countries. 

As for cops risking their lives every day or night, or fighting for "us" whatever that means in the minds of pampered people like this (in their case I guess it makes sense), it's an exaggeration. Cops are usually at far lower risk than firemen, for example. Or miners. Or fishermen. I could name many other professions with similar higher risk potential. 

In any case, someone should pass this useful set of data to the RHBV crew, maybe one of them will have the guts to confront the Erika dragon with the truth (not that that would help, but what the hell, no harm in trying). The data appears on the balance.com (https://www.thebalance.com/how-dangerous-is-a-law-enforcement-career-974538):

The Census of Fatal Occupational Injuries is a great source of information, but like all statistics, it's the interpretation of the data that matters. The census produces a "fatality rate," detailing the number of individuals fatally injured per 100,000 workers. It also provides a raw number of fatal on-the-job injuries. Making the top 10 most dangerous jobs for 2010, the most recent year for which data is available, are:

1 Fishers and related fishing workers, at a rate of 116 deaths per 100,000

2 Logging workers, at a rate of 91 deaths per 100,000

3 Aircraft pilots and flight engineers, at a rate of 71 deaths per 100,000

4 Farmers and ranchers, at a rate of 41 deaths per 100,000

5 Mining machine operators, at a rate of 38 deaths per 100,000

6 Roofers, at a rate of 32 deaths per 100,000

7 Refuse and recyclable material collectors, at a rate of 29 deaths per 100,000

8 Drivers/sales workers and truck drivers, at a rate of 21 deaths per 100,000

9 Industrial machinery repair and installation, at a rate of 20 per 100,000

10 Police and sheriff's patrol officers, at a rate of 19 per 100,000

A cursory glance at the rate of fatal injuries looks pretty staggering at first blush, especially for the top-rated professions of fishers, loggers and flight crews. The problem with basing a presupposition entirely on such a rate is that the data is per capita, meaning that in smaller industries the numbers can become easily skewed.

As for Lisa Rinna, she defines low-class character. A disgusting person. Is someone paying her under the table to instigate these clashes? Hmm. Maybe the producers are playing us all for suckers. 

In any case, FWIW, my good opinion of LVP is maintained. She may be rich and out of touch with ordinary humans' realities, but she has a head on her shoulders and a solid, real, animal-loving and compassionate personality, and common sense to support her claims to full humanity.  She is beautiful on the outside and quite possibly on the inside. Something we cannot say for the rest of this bunch. 
 

Edited March 22, 2017 by Addison de Pitt

[CarolineN]

This is just too much fun. I am from Norway and we have no TV show like this. Have not seen the episode yet, but what I read here makes me cheer even more with Dorit. She gets undeserved much crap. She is perhaps not from England, but so what? She seems at least genuine. Should liked to spend a day with both Kyle and Dorit.

 

Do not like Erika and the monotone of her voice. Why is she so important? Last I checked she had bad songs and attitude .. She is annoying, fake and downright naughty..

 

LisaR, is she worth mentioning here at all?

 

Sorry for my bad English, but as mentioned I am from Norway?

 

Gladly send me a message if there is anything

Edited March 22, 2017 by CarolineN

[ElDosEquis]

2 hours ago, QuiteContraryMoni said:

HAHA!! Yeah, she was super memorable in 'Family'. GOD I loved Family!! And of course Eight is Enough with good ol Dick. OK sorry all. I'm sobering up from being drunk on nostalgia.

IF Dick was THAT good?

Why did they stop at only eight?

[zoeysmom]

Comparison between Kim on Poker Night and Erika in Hong Kong:  http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-7/blogs/having-deja-vu-theres-a-reason-this-hong-kong  Major difference is Kim was dealing with the impending death of her best friend and father of her first child and her mentally ill son who was having a lot of problems.  Erika just doesn't listen.

Edited March 22, 2017 by zoeysmom

[CarolineN]

1 minute ago, QuiteContraryMoni said:

Your English is better than ours most of the time LOL :-)

Haha thanks:)

[Juliegirlj]

Erika reminded me of Drew Barrymore in Firestarter !! I think wearing her hair in all those tight ponytails is depriving blood from her brain!! 

[ciaoformeow]

9 hours ago, WireWrap said:

But no one used those words or anything close to them to describe Erika at any point.

As far as her being worried about Tom's reaction, she was lying, big time lying IMO. She didn't bother to tell him about pantygate when it happened or what happened in HC either. According to her on WWHL tonight, he only found out about it watching the show, she never told him squat.

 

 

Erika used those words, specifically (whore, slut). Which means it's something she fears others or her husband may think about her already. That was my whole point about planting the seed. 

Edited March 22, 2017 by lilsadone

[thesupremediva1]

14 hours ago, dosodog said:

Haven't seen Scary Island yet.  I'm thinking tonight is comparable

Sadly, no. Nothing will ever beat Scary Island. Erica, unhinged as she seemed for those few moments, had nothing on that cuckoo Kelly Killoren Bensimone back in the day.

I don't think anyone at the table, alarmed as they might have been at Erica's display, feared for their safety. Almost all the women (mostly a pregnant Bethanny), were terrified of and for Kelly by the end of Scary Island. Production escorted her home - a fact Kelly denies to this day. 

Erica was the picture of calm when you compare her to Kelly's Scary Island meltdown. She was literally jabbering nonsense by the end - "Al Sharpton", "satchels of gold" - I could go on. At least Erica could a pick a specific narrative to freak out over.

[bosawks]

And no gummi bears, you need gummi bears..

[byrd]

Lisa Rhinna is redirecting the focus away from her now. She needs to shut up and stay out of Erika and Dorit's business. Lisa R. is just happy she not in the line of fire anymore.

[Watermelon]

10 minutes ago, lilsadone said:

Erika used those words, specifically (whore, slut). Which means it's something she fears others or her husband may think about her already. That was my whole point about planting the seed. 

But that doesn't actually fall in line with playing at being Erika Jayne. Because...that one totes would fall in line with stereotypes "whore and slut".

 

What I mean is, anyone who would call her names would be doing it off the strength of her alter ego. They don't need to know she sometimes goes sans panties to come to that conclusion.

[HunterHunted]

6 minutes ago, thesupremediva1 said:

Sadly, no. Nothing will ever beat Scary Island. Erica, unhinged as she seemed for those few moments, had nothing on that cuckoo Kelly Killoren Bensimone back in the day.

I don't think anyone at the table, alarmed as they might have been at Erica's display, feared for their safety. Almost all the women (mostly a pregnant Bethanny), were terrified of and for Kelly by the end of Scary Island. Production escorted her home - a fact Kelly denies to this day. 

Erica was the picture of calm when you compare her to Kelly's Scary Island meltdown. She was literally jabbering nonsense by the end - "Al Sharpton", "satchels of gold" - I could go on. At least Erica could a pick a specific narrative to freak out over.

Scary Island was unbelievable. The moment that Sonja realizes that Kelly was emotionally unstable and convinces the other women to stop arguing with Kelly was unreal. You can see them getting it one by one. And even as they start expressing it, Kelly is still arguing with them until the women go mostly silent and Kelly starts thanking them. I fully believe that Kelly had absolutely no clue that the other women thought she needed mental health care even though they all said as much to her face.

[zoeysmom]

27 minutes ago, lilsadone said:

Erika used those words, specifically (whore, slut). Which means it's something she fears others or her husband may think about her already. That was my whole point about planting the seed. 

Way back on Game Night when Rinna was going after Dorit, Dorit asked, "which words do you want to put in mouth."  The danger of assuming and inferring and deviating from another's actual words is always bad form.  Rinna is doing it again now claiming Dorit called her an addict.  She just didn't.  No one called or implied Erika G. was a whore or slut.  It is just bad form to twist and exaggerate a story or someone else's comments into something unrecognizable.  The Erikas and Rinna are the first to scream Telephone Game or as it is known internationally Chinese Whisper and yet they are the ones that are most guilty of twist and distorting what has been said by Dorit.

I have a hard time with the Erikas-when Erika is dressed up as Baby Jayne and does her zero fucks is she Erika G or Erika J?  If Dorit can't trust the words out of the Erikas' mouths how is she suppose to fend her way through this mess?  I still maintain if someone showed up at my home twice and ate my food and drank my drinks and hung around for an iconic performer I would be led to believe they were trying to form a friendship with me.  This nonsense of the Erikas that a friendship is earned is just so ludicrous.  What a friendship isn't is faked for personal gain.

Erikas don't listen-Erika on the junk boat ask Dorit a question and when Dorit started to answer, all of a sudden Erika tols her to let me finish and told her she talked too much.  Don't ask a question and then tell someone they can't answer.  Same with idiot Rinna screaming about Dorit being defensive-you were asking her to defend her position.  I vacillate between indigestion and hoping for Rinna to get a terminal yeast infection (I am sure she would do the ad for the cream for a few dollars) when she starts talking about Dorit and having feelings for others.  Just shut up-let the woman finish. 

Edited March 22, 2017 by zoeysmom

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3 hours ago, QuiteContraryMoni said:

I wonder if Tom DOES care.

I've seen him be a condescending prick to her, and she just took it. Don't bite the hand that feeds you, hunty. I consider Erika to be a loose cannon with more mommy issues than hair extensions, but you don't have a lifestyle like Tom has without having an ego the size of Mars (where, incidentally, Rinna can go back to. Anytime now.), and I wonder if she sort of knows her place with him. If she wants to keep dressing in expensive, UGLY shit and have a crew of yes-queen sycophants following her around, she'd better stay in her lane type of deal? And that deal does NOT include showing her junk unless she's getting paid to do so? Perhaps her vitriolic blow-out is the result of pent up tension. If pantygate happened to me, my husband would laugh it off. Because there's no reason for him to suspect me, it clearly would be an accident, and I'd be embarrassed but laugh it off.

Unless there were prior reasons for Tom to be this upset about this issue........ahem

 

exactly this. What I was trying to express in my earlier comments. 

Also I get the feels that the two MIGHT have a Kelsey Grammer situation happening, except an agreed upon arrangement. Like they are splitting and he gave her this opportunity to be on RHOBH to get her name out there so she can support herself since they have an ironclad prenup (I assume, with him being a lawyer). But the agreement was a clean split, but don't you f'in embarrass me on TV and I'll agree to help you out a bit with money if you need it. 

 

Of course I'm just throwing stuff out there to see if any of it sticks :D :D 

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1 hour ago, wings707 said:

Erika admitted she overreacted on WWHL and that is good enough for me.  I have warmed to her this season and chalked up her emotion to jet lag coupled with Dorit chewing on her face like a sewer rat.  Sometimes it is difficult to stay in control.  Rinna never does!  

how could she not admit it?? it makes no sense otherwise.

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12 minutes ago, Watermelon said:

But that doesn't actually fall in line with playing at being Erika Jayne. Because...that one totes would fall in line with stereotypes "whore and slut".

 

What I mean is, anyone who would call her names would be doing it off the strength of her alter ego. They don't need to know she sometimes goes sans panties to come to that conclusion.

 

nobody called her names. She said it about herself. Meaning, SHE has a fear people assume this of her. 

It's her own issue, probably something she battles with. Insecure. 

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1 minute ago, lilsadone said:

nobody called her names. She said it about herself. Meaning, SHE has a fear people assume this of her. 

It's her own issue, probably something she battles with. Insecure. 

But she blamed Dorit for it and said that is what Dorit said or at least implied about her.

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Just now, biakbiak said:

But she blamed Dorit for it and said that is what Dorit said or at least implied about her.

It is easier for Erika and Rinna to put words in Dorit's mouth to further their agendas, which essentially they are victims of gossip.  They are the ones creating the gossip.

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I was more or less on Ericka's side (though if you have no intention of accepting an apology when it's offered, then stop bringing up whatever it is that offended you and demanding an apology for it) right up until she went off on Eileen. That was fucking MENTAL. You'd have to work pretty goddamned hard to misunderstand both the content and the intent of Eileen's comment to get it as wrong as Ericka did. I don't care if your son's full-time job is running into 2 dozen burning buildings every day to rescue scores of children holding baskets of kittens while being shot at by terrorists, that still has fuck-all to do with someone saying to you, "It's not like she murdered your child." Ericka needs to go back to her Little Spartan Boy routine. It looks a whole lot better on her than Scary-Island-crazy.

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15 minutes ago, lilsadone said:

nobody called her names. She said it about herself. Meaning, SHE has a fear people assume this of her. 

It's her own issue, probably something she battles with. Insecure. 

I get that. What I don't get is how she reconciles Jayne with her fear that people will think she's a whore.  

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7 hours ago, Snappy said:

Eileen has always defended Rinna whenever the others get on Rinna for her behavior yet, unless I missed it, Rinna let Eileen flap in the wind as Erika went after her. If I am correct, I'd think this would show Eileen just how one sided that friendship is. Time to get rid of the garbage.

Good point. imo Eileen is a little naive about some of the agendas - except she's totally onto LVP, and kudos to her for that.

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4 minutes ago, nexxie said:

Good point. imo Eileen is a little naive about some of the agendas - except she's totally onto LVP, and kudos to her for that.

she's not onto her, she's fast becoming friends with her through the dog thing.  and there's nothing to be onto imo anyway. but ok i get it some people think so.

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9 minutes ago, nexxie said:

 

I don't think EJ alone is the reason she's worried about people assuming she's a whore/slut. I think she fears this for a combination of reasons

• married an old dude. PEople assume gold digger and everyone knows that gold diggers aren't typically faithful
• blonde, pretty and fit
• husband never around, travels alone. Bored housewives get frisky 
• now add in the career of being a sexual creature and having to always make sure people understand that that is a CHARACTER and she is not like that in her day-to-day (imagine men assuming she's a free sexual spirit when they meet her through her Erika Jayne personality and assume they can "hit that") 

 

It's probably all that. Something nobody actually said to her, but something she assumes people think when they first meet her, based on all the above. 

 

Sorry, quoted the wrong response above. Meant to reply to this one 

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I get that. What I don't get is how she reconciles Jayne with her fear that people will think she's a whore.  

Edited March 22, 2017 by lilsadone