S07.E16: Big Buddha Brawl

[MaggieG]

Tonight's episode truly solidified for me how vile Rinna truly is.  

[njbchlover]

31 minutes ago, Chicklet said:

Forget Scary Island, this is Scary Restaurant.

Yup...I was saying to myself - holy shit - it's Scary Island and Kelly Bensimon all over again.

[notnowimbusy]

7 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Erika thought nothing of being buck naked in front of a camera crew and her Glam Squad while getting hosed down.  So now she is worried?

She's on camera getting spray tanned, saying "get it way up my vagina", but Tom would be upset she CHOSE not to wear panties, and exposed herself would cause him pain?  Seriously? 

She didn't lose it - she just went, as Mikey says, "next level".   Erica Girardi would have calmly said to Eileen, "I don't appreciate (her favorite word) your analogy" and let it go.  Nope she was in full ERika Jayne mode.

[noveltylibrary65]

4 minutes ago, Easyspreestep said:

Erica had no intention of flashing anyone, and said that she was ashamed that it happened.  Erica also said she would have forgotten about it if Dorit had not gone around to the women and then gave her underwear in front of everyone.  Dorit did all those things to humiliate Erica, so she can miss me with her "that was not my intention" crap.  If she had no intention of hurting Erica she would have apologized when Ellyn and Kyle both told her she hurt Erica's feelings.  Dorit could have gone to Erica and said, I'm hearing that I was incentive and that was not my intention.  I know you may not think so but others have told me that it was hurtful. I mean Dorit walked around telling the story to everyone, while absolving PK of everything.  Really so this grown man could not control himself?  Is that so (in my fake accent) well her accent is fake to so oh well

Ok, you don't think about sitting down in a mini dress with no underwear and not worry at all about flashing?

2 minutes ago, MaggieG said:

Tonight's episode truly solidified for me how vile Rinna truly is.  

AMEN!!!

[BlackMamba]

6 minutes ago, rustyspigot said:

And Eileen questioned someone's acceptance of an apology? WHAT?

 

Coming from the queen of not accepting an apology unless your groveling to her feet

[njbchlover]

23 minutes ago, farmgal4 said:

OMG.  I need a Xanax.

Yup...in a smoothie!  

[Straycat80]

FYI everyone, Erika is going to be on WWHL tonight. Can't wait to hear what she says about her melt downs tonight. 

[ElDosEquis]

5 minutes ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

On a bit of a humorous note, did anyone else expect LVP and Kyle to pull out popcorn at some point either on the Junk or at dinner? Just me?

The gondola ride and cow encounter were amusing as well.

I think LVp has some kind of neuro problem... she didn't carry on about how sexy the cow was.

[noveltylibrary65]

39 minutes ago, kdl88 said:

Whatever you think of any of these women, Dorit's defense of PK (while they were on the boat) was vile. 

what defense? that a guy wouldn't check out a naked woman?  I think any guy would!

[WireWrap]

16 minutes ago, scenicbyway said:

Before things went really crazy.  It did seem like Erika was genuinely afraid of Tom finding out this storyline.  I'm sure she's on the show with the condition she won't embarrass him.  I would guess with her alter ego rumors have dogged them before.  She's always so grateful in scenes with him and she's probably feeling like she's let him down.

That ship sailed long ago. She has appeared nude on camera, she wore the "cu-ty" necklace and bragged how it is her favorite word, she has lied, she plays runteldat but doesn't tell the whole story or the truth and she pats him on the head like he is a dog.

14 minutes ago, tinaw said:

Its plaguing Erika because Dorit keeps bringing it up. Erika was tired of it being talked about. I don't blame her for being upset. 

The issue really could have been done if one of these women just said  "Hey e!! Your who-ha is showing"

The only ones that keep bringing up pantygate are Eileen, Rinna and Erika, not Dorit.

[dosodog]

20 minutes ago, ElDosEquis said:

Wait until the gift bags get passed around?

Will the gift bag contain a pair of panties, a bag full of various pills, a walk on part on Young and the Restless, Vidal Sassoon haircare, a rhinestone dog collar and a gently mouthed baked potato?

Hold up!  Scratch the dog collar and insert cute, little home.

Edited March 22, 2017 by dosodog
wasn't thinking big enough

[KenyaJ]

10 minutes ago, Wouldofshouldof said:

Well it's clear Dorit is just concerned about Erika because she's diluted, LOL.

LOL. It reminded me of Kenya telling Phaedra not to deify her on Sunday's RHOA.

[DeeplyShallow]

20 minutes ago, scenicbyway said:

Before things went really crazy.  It did seem like Erika was genuinely afraid of Tom finding out this storyline.  I'm sure she's on the show with the condition she won't embarrass him.  I would guess with her alter ego rumors have dogged them before.  She's always so grateful in scenes with him and she's probably feeling like she's let him down.

This fascinated me. I think there's fear, honestly.

[noveltylibrary65]

29 minutes ago, KikiBda said:

 Lisa R is awful...good lord.  The coke question ? Dorit should have been like 'No, I certainly would have invited you if I was, I know you are into drugs' ?

i know i so wished she had said why don't you stick your nose in your glad bag of drugs? but she's too classy oh well.

[Chicklet]

Erika went to a party on camera in a short dress without panties. Now you tell me that wasn't strategically planned with the hope she would work it therefore making herself the center of some scene. Puleeze Then add in all that crap about her kid and the mini-mental breakdown at the restaurant? She's playing this to the hilt. I'm not buying what crazy lady is selling. Nor what the other crazy lady is selling.

[Rosiejuliemom]

4 minutes ago, ElDosEquis said:

I think LVp has some kind of neuro problem... she didn't carry on about how sexy the cow was.

She did call him a handsome boy and express desire to take him home, though. I'm sure the sexy would come in time.

[lunastartron]

10 minutes ago, Easyspreestep said:

Erica had no intention of flashing anyone, and said that she was ashamed that it happened.  Erica also said she would have forgotten about it if Dorit had not gone around to the women and then gave her underwear in front of everyone.  Dorit did all those things to humiliate Erica, so she can miss me with her "that was not my intention" crap.  If she had no intention of hurting Erica she would have apologized when Ellyn and Kyle both told her she hurt Erica's feelings.  Dorit could have gone to Erica and said, I'm hearing that I was incentive and that was not my intention.  I know you may not think so but others have told me that it was hurtful. I mean Dorit walked around telling the story to everyone, while absolving PK of everything.  Really so this grown man could not control himself?  Is that so (in my fake Dorit accent) well her accent is fake to so oh well

She also said multiple times that the matter was resolved and that she had no problem with Dorit.

As for the question of being a "grown man," that metric applies to women just as much. A 45-year-old woman walks out of the house sans panties and has no responsibility in the fact that someone saw her puss after she decides to sit down with her legs uncrossed? 

[charming]

I didn't understand Erika's insistence that she's not cold and guarded. Hasn't she spent the last few episodes blaming her rotten personality on her Mother who was too tough on her? Weren't we all supposed to break out our violins and wear our C*nty necklaces in support of her struggle?

[racked]

6 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

That ship sailed long ago. She has appeared nude on camera, she wore the "cu-ty" necklace and bragged how it is her favorite word, she has lied, she plays runteldat but doesn't tell the whole story or the truth and she pats him on the head like he is a dog.

The only ones that keep bringing up pantygate are Eileen, Rinna and Erika, not Dorit.

For real, Tom should be embarrassed because Erika is embarrassing. Not because she's sexual but because she's a damn loon. 

Erika really wants to have it both ways, to be risqué and throw her crotch in your face and then act all scandalized that anyone associates Erika Girardi with Erika Jayne. Grow up, that's not how life works. And either way, it was Erika Girardi flashing the world and unable to take a dumb joke about it. No one thinks she was trying to fuck PK, we have seen him, Dorit knows nobody wants her man. 

Edited March 22, 2017 by racked

[noveltylibrary65]

29 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

Kyle is terrified of heights! I think Dorit is as well and I don't remember Lisa screaming, just teasing and laughing.

If Kyle is terrified of heights then they must be deadly to me...you could never have gotten me on that thing!!

[mbaywife123]

Good grief Rinna and that smug look on her face every time she tossed some random shit out there made me want to reach thru the tv and smack the smirk off her face!

Eileen should have just kept her mouth shut and she would have not been caught in the whole Erika meltdown.

Dorit and Eden these women don't like you or want to get to know you, move along and remove yourselves from this show.

And once again , the Rinna hate is growing strong in me.

[WireWrap]

11 minutes ago, Easyspreestep said:

Erica had no intention of flashing anyone, and said that she was ashamed that it happened.  Erica also said she would have forgotten about it if Dorit had not gone around to the women and then gave her underwear in front of everyone.  Dorit did all those things to humiliate Erica, so she can miss me with her "that was not my intention" crap.  If she had no intention of hurting Erica she would have apologized when Ellyn and Kyle both told her she hurt Erica's feelings.  Dorit could have gone to Erica and said, I'm hearing that I was incentive and that was not my intention.  I know you may not think so but others have told me that it was hurtful. I mean Dorit walked around telling the story to everyone, while absolving PK of everything.  Really so this grown man could not control himself?  Is that so (in my fake Dorit accent) well her accent is fake to so oh well

Dorit has not brought it up since Erika told her she was fine and they high fived each other the same night Dorit gave Erika the panties. Only Eileen and Rinna keep bringing it up on camera, so according to Erika's mindset, they both owe Tom a huge apology. Also, why should Dorit take Eileen's/Rinna's word over Erika's, that makes no sense at all. Why didn't they counsel Erika to be honest with Dorit if they felt Erika was still upset, after all, they are much closer to Erika than Dorit.

[Megan]

Dorit so much does want Erika's attention. She wants Erika to think she's a cool kid badly.

[kdl88]

5 minutes ago, noveltylibrary65 said:

what defense? that a guy wouldn't check out a naked woman?  I think any guy would!

I have higher standards for men. My boyfriend absolutely would not have looked. Nor would most of the men I know. It was accidental on Erika's part and no one had the right to look. 

[charming]

8 minutes ago, noveltylibrary65 said:

what defense? that a guy wouldn't check out a naked woman?  I think any guy would!

Right? Except Eileen doesn't think St. Vinnie would look. He's not the type. But when did the affair start?

[chewycandy]

If I were Dorit I would have demanded Erica apologize for flashing my husband.  She intentionally wore a short dress with no panties.  She should be humiliated and contrite.   She played the victim well.

She should apologize because a greasy leering man couldn't drag his eyes away from her crotch?

Rinna got to the root of the problem. Dorit was crazy over the fact that her husband stared. Constantly excusing PK by saying he did it because he's a "man with a heart beat" and it couldn't be helped. That's just gross. Erika stood up for herself in all the ways she could have but her anger and frustration bubbled over and got all over Eileen. Poor Eileen.

 

[njbchlover]

25 minutes ago, scenicbyway said:

Before things went really crazy.  It did seem like Erika was genuinely afraid of Tom finding out this storyline.  I'm sure she's on the show with the condition she won't embarrass him.  I would guess with her alter ego rumors have dogged them before.  She's always so grateful in scenes with him and she's probably feeling like she's let him down.

Sorry - I'm not buying that.  Tom, in a filmed lunch with Erika was raving about her latest video, and is obviously, fully on board with her alter-ego/music career. 

And, if Erika was so upset over Tom finding out that she goes out of the house without panties and someone's husband may have seen her private parts, why didn't Erika tell him about it way back when it was an issue (say, after Dorit gave her the underwear)?  

Erika completely unraveled during this trip - I don't know if it was jet lag, or something else, but it was more than the "ice queen melting" as LVP said - this was more like the ice queen was completed roasted on a hot fire.  Something is wrong there, very wrong.

[ElDosEquis]

4 minutes ago, noveltylibrary65 said:

what defense? that a guy wouldn't check out a naked woman?  I think any guy would!

Yes, I think anyone would.

--------

My mom had a little saying that makes me laugh to this day.

When we were caught in a dilemma that was of our OWN doing, she'd say "Who sent you?"

In other words? Who is the person who told you to act like a knucklehead and got you into the jam you are in?

I wonder who told EJ NOT to wear underwear that day?

[ihartcoffee]

Erika went BSC real quick like there.  Yikes. She looked pretty crying in the early scene,  not so pretty a cry later........

Rinna just can't shut up!  Good Lord

The heads of Kyle and LisaV swinging back and forth as insults were slung was hilarious! Kyle was just missing a bucket of popcorn.  

[BlackMamba]

I mean there is something Erika isn't telling us why she is so afraid of pantygate getting back to Tom.
Does Tom give one the vibe that he could be ashamed of his wife or offended some troll like PK took a peak?
I mean PK is a perv and shouldn't be looking but this whole thing about Tom has me all interested in his opinion .
*sips hard*

[AttackTurtle]

Dorit held her own and I was impressed.   It was pretty ridiculous when Eileen and Rinna shut LVP down for trying to defend Dorit.  

Dorit isn't jealous of Erica, but I think Erica is a tad jealous of Dorit.  I don't doubt for a second that Erica is worried about Tom's reaction to pantygate; whereas I doubt P.K. would waste a minute being bothered by it had it been Dorit.  Dorit's husband gave her a heartfelt toast on her birthday.  Erica's husband gave her a painting by HIS favorite artist.  

I don't dislike Erica, but she's got a lot more going on in her life than we're seeing for her to have reacted as she did that night.  

Lisa Rinna is a piece of shit.  And Eileen can take s seat next to her.  Eileen's blog is already up & guess what she doesn't mention?  Zero reference to Rinna's coke allegation against Dorit.  She spends a fair amount of time bashing Dorit, but zero reference to her BFF's nasty allegation against Dorit.  

Kyle and LVP were great.

[ElDosEquis]

3 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

Sorry - I'm not buying that.  Tom, in a filmed lunch with Erika was raving about her latest video, and is obviously, fully on board with her alter-ego/music career. 

And, if Erika was so upset over Tom finding out that she goes out of the house without panties and someone's husband may have seen her private parts, why didn't Erika tell him about it way back when it was an issue (say, after Dorit gave her the underwear)?  

Erika completely unraveled during this trip - I don't know if it was jet lag, or something else, but it was more than the "ice queen melting" as LVP said - this was more like the ice queen was completed roasted on a hot fire.  Something is wrong there, very wrong.

Daenerys Targaryen would have passed the 'fire test' with flying colors.

[notnowimbusy]

Had my husband been sitting across from Erika during Pantygate, and had he looked over and seen her puss, I know he would have, on the way home, told me "Hey somebody should tell Erika to wear panties.  She was flashing everyone all night".    When Dorit told Eileen & Rinna they encouraged her to buy the panties, Eileen said she wanted to be there when she gave them to her to see her reaction, and didn't Eileen even mimic Erika by sitting low and spreading her legs?   Honestly I think Dorit thought it would be a "cute" way to let Erika know - and it just fell flat.  But it does seem that Eileen & Rinna were the ones to keep it going.   But according to Erika HOW DARE anyone, let alone the lowly Dorit, show a flaw in the perfect Mrs. Girardi/Erika Jayne. 

[Jel]

1 minute ago, BlackMamba said:

I mean there is something Erika isn't telling us why she is so afraid of pantygate getting back to Tom.
Does Tom give one the vibe that he could be ashamed of his wife or offended some troll like PK took a peak?
I mean PK is a perv and shouldn't be looking but this whole thing about Tom has me all interested in his opinion .
*sips hard*

I thought so too. I mean if she was so upset by that, I'd expect the first person she'd tell would be her life partner/husband. There is something very WTF about that relationship.

[mbaywife123]

One thing I like to do when this show is on is imagine working in a corporate office setting with each of these characters and the daily scenarios that would play out and who plays which role i.e.: CEO, CFO, Payroll, janitorial,mailroom,wives,mistresses,lunchroom drama ect.

[noveltylibrary65]

20 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

FYI everyone, Erika is going to be on WWHL tonight. Can't wait to hear what she says about her melt downs tonight. 

unfortunately i'm thinking she'll have her mask back on and be cool as a cucumber shrugging it off.  I laughed during her fit and someone asked if she wanted to take a walk and she snaps I'm fine!

[100PercentPain]

Re: Erika vs. PK, I don't think either is without a little responsibility in the whole debacle. She's old enough to know that wearing a super short dress with nothing under it leaves her vulnerable to someone catching a peek, AND PK should have had the decency to avert his eyes after he noticed. I don't think noticing in and of itself makes him a creep, but continuing to leer up her skirt absolutely does. 

 

Erika is fucking nuts, though, and the fact that she/Tom/both feel that Dorit and PK owe TOM an apology speaks volumes. I agree that PK owes Erika one, but Tom??? 

 

Said it once tonight but nownthat that I've seen the whole episode I'll say it again - fuck Lisa Rinna with the rustiest of shovels. I've heard that the other women let her have it at the reunion. I hope that's true. 

Edited March 22, 2017 by 100PercentPain

[lunastartron]

10 minutes ago, kdl88 said:

I have higher standards for men. My boyfriend absolutely would not have looked. Nor would most of the men I know. It was accidental on Erika's part and no one had the right to look. 

Erika had all the agency in the world regarding the matter. Her grown-ass self decided not to wear underwear and to assume the risk that she would, inadvertently or intentionally, introduce the visual of her labia into someone's sight line.

If a man goes freeballing in running or deck shorts and his penis becomes visible, he has participated in making that visibility possible. 

[ihartcoffee]

18 minutes ago, Chicklet said:

Erika went to a party on camera in a short dress without panties. Now you tell me that wasn't strategically planned with the hope she would work it therefore making herself the center of some scene. Puleeze Then add in all that crap about her kid and the mini-mental breakdown at the restaurant? She's playing this to the hilt. I'm not buying what crazy lady is selling. Nor what the other crazy lady is selling.

I agree she is losing it.  She claims the lack of undies was due to it being a tight white dress. She says it's not possible to keep any kind of undies from showing. I know it is hard for me to pull off white and not have them show.  I had to give her some slack for that.  But still,  going on TV?  With cameras?  I'd take the panty lines. 

[Rosiejuliemom]

51 minutes ago, escapetoreality said:

Well at least we have a crazy Kevin production to look forward to.

After this episode, I'll gladly take some chi-chi-chi-chi, darling.

[noveltylibrary65]

18 minutes ago, kdl88 said:

I have higher standards for men. My boyfriend absolutely would not have looked. Nor would most of the men I know. It was accidental on Erika's part and no one had the right to look. 

I don't mean stare and drool and I mean look if she's sitting right in front of the person.  which she was.

20 minutes ago, kdl88 said:

I have higher standards for men. My boyfriend absolutely would not have looked. Nor would most of the men I know. It was accidental on Erika's part and no one had the right to look. 

btw it wasn't accidental it was inevitable!

[farmgal4]

30 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

Yup...in a smoothie!  

I'll just take mine straight, and make it a double.

[BlackMamba]

Ok, I stand corrected, Lisa R asked if anyone does coke in Dorit's bathroom.

Seems like production has been feeding Lipsa her information to share with everyone.

Her expression and how she asked was telling.  Plus Dorit's response wasn't quick enough to deny.

Edited March 22, 2017 by BlackMamba

[noveltylibrary65]

20 minutes ago, charming said:

Right? Except Eileen doesn't think St. Vinnie would look. He's not the type. But when did the affair start?

haa i know I laughed at that.  is she seriously that naive?

[Thumper]

4 minutes ago, ihartcoffee said:

I agree she is losing it.  She claims the lack of undies was due to it being a tight white dress. She says it's not possible to keep any kind of undies from showing. I know it is hard for me to pull off white and not have them show.  I had to give her some slack for that.  But still,  going on TV?  With cameras?  I'd take the panty lines. 

Or wear something else.

[mbaywife123]

3 minutes ago, lunastartron said:

Erika had all the agency in the world regarding the matter. Her grown-ass self decided not to wear underwear and to assume the risk that she would, inadvertently or intentionally, introduce the visual of her labia into someone's sight line.

If a man goes freeballing in running or deck shorts and his penis becomes visible, he has participated in making that visibility possible. 

This just reminded me of something really funny/awkward that happened years ago when my ex's  coworker came back from jogging after lunch and was free balling in his running shorts and opened up his legs wide  ( not on purpose but by lack of realization) for me  and others present to have a full view (4 men and me in the room), I looked right at him and told him that mama bird was sitting on the edge of the nest and the eggs were falling out of the other side. He had a great sense of humor (which I already knew)' laughed it off, thanked me for the warning and moved on from the incident and laughed about it long after.

[ElDosEquis]

1 minute ago, Thumper said:

Or wear something else.

Her look book for that evening said "white dress, no undies"?

 

Some people just can't adapt on the fly.

[noveltylibrary65]

21 minutes ago, AttackTurtle said:

Lisa Rinna is a piece of shit.  And Eileen can take s seat next to her.  Eileen's blog is already up & guess what she doesn't mention?  Zero reference to Rinna's coke allegation against Dorit.  She spends a fair amount of time bashing Dorit, but zero reference to her BFF's nasty allegation against Dorit.  

Gosh what a shocker.  Eileen is so annoying.  And boring.

[njbchlover]

21 minutes ago, charming said:

Right? Except Eileen doesn't think St. Vinnie would look. He's not the type. But when did the affair start?

Yeah - Vinnie wouldn't look?  I snorted my iced tea when she said that - of course he would!!!  

Wasn't he the same one who was peeking out his garage windows when Brandi was fighting with Kyle in their driveway?  

Not that it's the same thing, but I think that she's giving him more credit than is due.

[chewycandy]

9 minutes ago, lunastartron said:

Erika had all the agency in the world regarding the matter. Her grown-ass self decided not to wear underwear and to assume the risk that she would, inadvertently or intentionally, introduce the visual of her labia into someone's sight line.

So flip the script...if PK had worn shorts and flashed Erika would she have snickered about it with every cast mate? Brought Dorit some undies in a box and said it's because everyone had seen her husband's balls? I don't see her acting in such a juvenile way.

And Dorit would most likely defend her husband if he did that and say it was unintentional, right? So why can't she believe that a woman did it unintentionally? Why immediately shame her?