LIVE CHAT: Election Night 2016 (11/8/2016)

[charming]

I keep checking hoping to see some good news. This is completely terrifying.

[HumblePi]

2 minutes ago, theredhead77 said:

You guys, CA, OR and WA are still voting. Those three give H. Clinton 74 more. It's not first to 270.

Exactly, don't panic!  Trump will go up to the 170 electoral votes quick and easy and then up to a surprising 210 electoral votes, that's his ceiling right now
210 electoral votes, HIS CEILING!

[Silly Angel]

1 minute ago, WendyCR72 said:

Fuck, fuck, fuck. Has Florida been completely counted?

Not entirely

[WhitneyWhit]

I would feel so much better if she were to win VA.

[Apprentice79]

I have to wonder what role Putin is playing in all of this fuckery...

[ChromaKelly]

Just now, HumblePi said:

Exactly, don't panic!  Trump will go up to the 170 electoral votes quick and easy and then up to a surprising 210 electoral votes, that's his ceiling right now
210 electoral votes, HIS CEILING!

I hope!

[millennium]

How can you possibly sleep?  I don't think I'll ever sleep again.

[Revlonred]

I can't live here if this happens. No

[pennben]

Yes, but CA, OR and WA are expected to go Hillary, that's not the question.  The problem is that Trump is breaking records in rural areas in swing states and it's not entirely clear that Hillary has enough votes in Democratic areas (although she's outperforming Obama in many) to hold off the surge.  This is not good.  Not good at all.

[Bastet]

They're talking about the future of the Repubican party on PBS right now, and saying that Trump doing better than projected is going to give that (hate-filled) wing of the party more power.  Lovely thought.

Here is what pissed me off all along about my friends who were skipping through fields of daisies content in the knowledge the polls projected easy victory for Hillary.  That was NEVER going to happen.  Significant swaths of this country are absolutely unhinged in their irrational hatred for her, and just as many have an "eh, I just don't like her" attitude towards her.  So the second group was going to look at those polls and stay home (or cast a protest vote), figuring that they could avoid a Trump presidency without having to hold their noses and vote for her because the rest of us would take care of it.

[millennium]

2 minutes ago, HumblePi said:

Exactly, don't panic!  Trump will go up to the 170 electoral votes quick and easy and then up to a surprising 210 electoral votes, that's his ceiling right now
210 electoral votes, HIS CEILING!

What do you mean?  

[Keepitmoving]

1 minute ago, WhitneyWhit said:

I would feel so much better if she were to win VA.

Yeah, I would feel better if these blue states weren't so close. 

[PatsyandEddie]

If I don't go to bed, I'll lose my shit or vomit or both. 

[HumblePi]

1 minute ago, Silly Angel said:

Not entirely

Florida doesn't matter, he needed a lot more than Florida, but Florida was a 'must' win for him.

[debbie311]

5 minutes ago, Keepitmoving said:

Word.

How to live in a country that would elect this jerk as president.  I am devastated.

[Apprentice79]

I refuse to watch CNN and see the Trump Surrogates gloat over how well he is doing...What the hell is going on here? This is a nightmare.

Edited November 9, 2016 by Apprentice79

[madmaverick]

This should never have been a contest.  I can't accept that it's this close.  I'm sorry, Americans, but I don't think it speaks well of half your fellow countrymen if so many are willing to vote for someone like Trump as President. 

[starri]

My husband is threatening to make me completely unplug.  I don't know if I can do this.  But we'll get through whatever happens.  We always do.

[WendyCR72]

Trump is horrifying. But I think what is even worse is what he represents. All the hateful xenophobes, racists, and sexist bastards will be endorsed, proving that that behavior is acceptable. And it's not, damn it.

[KerleyQ]

2 minutes ago, Silly Angel said:

Not entirely

FL is always the last one fully counted.  The FL GOP has made it so fucking difficult to vote in the Dem areas of the state that they have people in line for HOURS after the polls close.  I was hoping that we wouldn't even need FL, so it wouldn't be necessary to go through the FL roller coaster again.  

[Spacecow]

As a biracial woman I feel fucking terrible about the prospects of a Trump presidency, and what that would mean for my family and every POC in this country. Hell, every woman in this country.

[theredhead77]

The differnece in some of these races is what Gary Johnson and/or Jill Stein have. I'm trying to reassure myself that these voters never either have not voted or voted for Trump but fuck them anyway.

[Revlonred]

I am physically sick.  

[Kromm]

It looks like the following has to happen:

Clinton has to hold MI... or... 

If she loses MI then she has to win one of the following combos:

NH + NC + VA  
NH + FL
FL+NC
FL + VA
FL + NV
NV + NC + VA

[JunebugWA]

This is scary - looking at the map and it is so RED!! 

[Shannon L.]

Seriously, I was anxious and scared for a few weeks, but in the back of my head I thought I was just being silly.  This is crazy.

[starri]

She's ahead in VA again.  Barely.  But ahead.

[KerleyQ]

Hillary has NM.  VA tightening.  She can still lock it up.  

[callmebetty]

Enjoy your fucking protest votes 

[lyric]

7 minutes ago, abstractstuff said:

That smugness will get ya every time. Very interesting night indeed. 

Smugness?  Speaking only for myself, I had CONFIDENCE that the majority of our country wasn't bigoted, misogynistic, hateful bullies. It appears I could've been very, very wrong.

[Guest]

A friend reminded me that in 2008 and 2012 it was this close as well. I am going with what she said since a.) she's a doctor and way smarter than me; and b.) I am pretty drunk right now and prone to freaking out. 

[HumblePi]

4 minutes ago, millennium said:

What do you mean?  

Solid Republican states are 160 for him, winning both NC and FL makes it 210 for him, rounded numbers of course. So that would be 250 for Clinton - 210 for Trump, the other 120 electoral votes are contested, not secured for any, that's the projection. If he wins Michigan, Ohio, Georgia, Nevada and Arizona, or steals California and Pennsylvania, that's when you should start to worry

Edited November 9, 2016 by HumblePi

[Hanahope]

I just can't believe half this country is really voting for this guy, omg.

[NextIteration]

it's over, i'm heartbroken - and terrified.

[Kromm]

Just now, theredhead77 said:

The differnece in some of these races is what Gary Johnson and/or Jill Stein have. I'm trying to reassure myself that these voters never either have not voted or voted for Trump but fuck them anyway.

NC, FL and VA all that's true.

We could get Hitler 2.0 because of the damn 3rd party.

[aradia22]

Keepin' It 1600 is talking about Supreme Court appointments. Side note since there aren't too many developments... I would love to have an another awesome pro-choice lady judge on the Supreme Court because I was recently freaked out to learn that RBG is one of the older (and yet appointed later than some of her younger counterparts) judges currently serving.

[millennium]

I got a case of the shakes.

[candall]

1 minute ago, Giant Misfit said:

WHAT IS GOING ON??!!!?!?!?!? 

FUCK IF I KNOW.

The cat just brought in a mouse, dropped it at my feet, the mouse ran UNDER THE DOG, who's asleep and doesn't seem to have noticed.  The cat left, I don't really want to move my feet and wake up the dog and between the EC count and the rodent situation, I am now experiencing TOTAL SENSORY OVERLOAD.

[Revlonred]

This is disgusting.  DISGUSTING

[Kromm]

5 minutes ago, KerleyQ said:

Hillary has NM.  VA tightening.  She can still lock it up.  

MN is not enough.

VA stops being enough if she loses MI.

In fact it's not even CLOSE to enough. If she wins VA, loses MI, Trump still wins on either NV or NH. With their dinky little 6 and 4 electoral votes.

EDIT - Wisconsin is also FAR from firm. Same disaster if she loses that (even if MI got reversed). 

UGH as I typed that the numbers for WI changed.

It's done. Florida isn't even enough now.

Edited November 9, 2016 by Kromm

[Apprentice79]

Just now, Hanahope said:

I just can't believe half this country is really voting for this guy, omg.

Now we know what happened in Germany.. He was elected by the people..

[katha]

Look, I'm not saying don't panic. Anything can happen, obviously. But this is also a case of rural areas being counted earlier than densely populated city areas, and so far only expected states have been called for both candidates.

[irisheyes]

I'm going to be ill.  I'm terrified that I'll wake up tomorrow and Donald Trump will be President. 

[Bastet]

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Enjoy your fucking protest votes

Right?  Look, I am way over to the left.  I do not agree with Hillary on some key things, and I thus have some significant concerns about how her presidency would play out.  But come the fuck on!  I damn near skipped to and from my polling place to vote for her.  There was no question.  No nose-holding.  She is an EXPONENTIALLY better option than anyone on the ballot.

[millennium]

1 minute ago, HumblePi said:

Solid Republican states are 160 for him, winning both NC and FL makes it 210 for him, rounded numbers of course. So that would be 250 for Clinton - 210 for Trump, the other 120 electoral votes are contested, not secured for any, that's the projection

Except he's leading in swing states ....

[Pixel]

2 minutes ago, lyric said:

Smugness?  Speaking only for myself, I had CONFIDENCE that the majority of our country wasn't bigoted, misogynistic, hateful bullies. It appears I could've been very, very wrong.

This. Absolutely. 

[starri]

She's inching up in VA.

[KerleyQ]

Now they're saying she's likely got VA.  

[JunebugWA]

Hate is winning. 

[Silly Angel]

I swear I thought, in my innocence or ignorance, that those third-party Impossibles would take votes from Trump.