Donald John Trump: 2016 President-Elect

[sistermagpie]

30 minutes ago, backformore said:

Something like the Eric Trump foundation exists for what reason?  to have people donate it to the foundation instead of directly to the charity?  Why? If I wanted to donate to St Jude's, wouldn't I just do that? 

Trumpcast did an episode explaining this. Basically, many rich people have these foundations. When they have money they want to donate to charity they instead donate it to their personal foundation. That way they can immediately get the tax deduction. Usually it's okay because they actually do donate all the money to charity. They just get the deduction before they've decided where everything is going to go. The Clinton Foundation is an actual charity that does things itself.

With the Trumps, though, they use it more like a slush fund/fake charity. They I guess started out putting money into it and getting the deduction. Then they might or might not have donated the actual money to charity. Then they started getting other people to donate to it and they I guess used it to get PR (if the foundation donated money to cancer research, for instance, Trump would get credit for the donation even though it wasn't his money, and the cancer foundation might use his hotels because of it--Trump also makes a habit of seating himself prominently at charity things so he gets credit for donating even if he hasn't). Then they also would use money other people gave them for the foundation for personal things or charity donations that didn't meet the standards (the portrait Melania bought was at a charity auction, but since they kept the portrait and hung it in their own hotel, it's not charity).

[Padma]

28 minutes ago, random chance said:

I can't find any confirmation of this, maybe someone else knows -- once he's using the POTUS Twitter he won't be able to delete tweets?

He can't. They're a legal record per Presidential Records Act.  Also I'm sure they will need to be featured prominently in his presidential library, along with videos of the weekly "Bring America Together Again" tours. (Just made that up, but you know they're coming.)

Does anyone know how much the victory laps are costing taxpayers?

Also, re: Trump charities.  Not only do they use charity money for their own family products (Eric Trump wine, etc.) but also for properties.  Eric Trump often schedules his charity fundraisers at Mar-a-lago so that his father can get the large amount of property rental/catering money for the event.

[rcc]

15 minutes ago, sistermagpie said:

Trumpcast did an episode explaining this. Basically, many rich people have these foundations. When they have money they want to donate to charity they instead donate it to their personal foundation. That way they can immediately get the tax deduction. Usually it's okay because they actually do donate all the money to charity. They just get the deduction before they've decided where everything is going to go. The Clinton Foundation is an actual charity that does things itself.

With the Trumps, though, they use it more like a slush fund/fake charity. They I guess started out putting money into it and getting the deduction. Then they might or might not have donated the actual money to charity. Then they started getting other people to donate to it and they I guess used it to get PR (if the foundation donated money to cancer research, for instance, Trump would get credit for the donation even though it wasn't his money, and the cancer foundation might use his hotels because of it--Trump also makes a habit of seating himself prominently at charity things so he gets credit for donating even if he hasn't). Then they also would use money other people gave them for the foundation for personal things or charity donations that didn't meet the standards (the portrait Melania bought was at a charity auction, but since they kept the portrait and hung it in their own hotel, it's not charity).

Self-serving bastards. The Trump way of life. 4 years of this bullshit!

[SoSueMe]

6 minutes ago, Padma said:

He can't. They're a legal record per Presidential Records Act.  Also I'm sure they will need to be featured prominently in his presidential library, along with videos of the weekly "Bring America Together Again" tours. (Just made that up, but you know they're coming.)

Does anyone know how much the victory laps are costing taxpayers?

Also, re: Trump charities.  Not only do they use charity money for their own family products (Eric Trump wine, etc.) but also for properties.  Eric Trump often schedules his charity fundraisers at Mar-a-lago so that his father can get the large amount of property rental/catering money for the event.

I have no doubt that those tours will happen. At this point there is no way that Trump can go cold turkey without the adoring crowds close up and personal. His neediness is pathetic. I suspect Pence will be doing most of the heavy lifting (God help us) while Donald does everything possible to keep the ego stroking coming. Pathetic.

I truly despair.

[backformore]

12 minutes ago, sistermagpie said:

Then they also would use money other people gave them for the foundation for personal things or charity donations that didn't meet the standards (the portrait Melania bought was at a charity auction, but since they kept the portrait and hung it in their own hotel, it's not charity).

so, if I paid an artist $5,000 to paint a portrait of myself, then donated the portrait to charity to auction off, I just "donated" 5k.  then when I buy the same portrait at the auction for 5K, I just donated another 5K to the charity.  I can deduct both amounts on taxes, even though the bottom line is that I paid 10K and have a portrait.  But if I  get other people to donate that 5K, then I used their money and ended up spending 5k for a portrait and can call it "charity". IF the artist can be persuaded to "donate" the portrait, even better. 

Similarly, if I donate 50K to a charity, then have the charity hold a gala in my hotel, and charge them 50K, I can write off the "donation"  even though I essentially moved money from my left pocket to my right.

Multiply that by a thousand different phony-ass deals, and you have an idea of how Trump does stuff.

[Lunata]

32 minutes ago, random chance said:

I can't find any confirmation of this, maybe someone else knows -- once he's using the POTUS Twitter he won't be able to delete tweets?

Once he tweets it becomes part of history and will be retained as public record, FOR-EV-ERRRRR. The National Archives and Records Administration will conserve his administrations' posts. He will be given a new 'handle' like POTUS44. His Facebook, Instagram and Twitter will all be archived.

[callmebetty]

26 minutes ago, Lunata said:

Once he tweets it becomes part of history and will be retained as public record, FOR-EV-ERRRRR. The National Archives and Records Administration will conserve his administrations' posts. He will be given a new 'handle' like POTUS44. His Facebook, Instagram and Twitter will all be archived.

I wonder in the future how are alien overlords will look back at this time?

Edited December 17, 2016 by callmebetty

[NewDigs]

53 minutes ago, Padma said:

He can't. They're a legal record per Presidential Records Act.  Also I'm sure they will need to be featured prominently in his presidential library, along with videos of the weekly "Bring America Together Again" tours. (Just made that up, but you know they're coming.)

Having to ponder a Trump Library (gack!) this is pretty much what I'm picturing.

[parisprincess]

Can someone explain to me why we taxpayers are paying for Trump's self aggrandizing tours? He's not the President yet, even though he seems to think he is and the press is covering him as if he were. I can understand having to pay for security, but to pick up the tab for the other costs seems like bullshit to me.

[Padma]

4 minutes ago, parisprincess said:

Can someone explain to me why we taxpayers are paying for Trump's self aggrandizing tours? He's not the President yet, even though he seems to think he is and the press is covering him as if he were. I can understand having to pay for security, but to pick up the tab for the other costs seems like bullshit to me.

I haven't been able to find any numbers for how much these are costing.

Again, I'm a broken record, but where is the outrage?  ONE nationally broadcast (with highlights replayed ad nauseum) in your face "Suck it, Hillary-supporters! I won!" rally should have been sufficiently satisfying bad sportsmanship. How many has he had (including all the lying at Carrier)? 4? 5? He did another today.

How much are these things costing us?  I KNOW we have to pay for at least part of the $450,000 it costs every time his 757 takes him there, because he billed for SS.  Maybe now we have to pay for him, too. Or the whole thing.

And I read he won't probably stay in Blair House in DC before the inauguration, but instead will stay--with entourage, SS etc. undoubtedly all at OUR expense--in the violating-the-law-already Trump International hotel.

Will Melania even show up for the inauguration? I find her snub of DC and the role of FLOTUS very offensive and disrespectful.  Ditto of course to her husband.

But HOW MUCH are these awful people costing US during the transition?  It's at least tens of millions.

He should be CRITICIZED DAILY for the wasteful cost of these tours.

But our Dem leaders, as usual, are WIMPS!

This is from Nov 23. Haven't found anything more recent. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/11/23/elizabeth-warren-wants-to-know-how-donald-trump-is-using-taxpayer-funds-for-his-transition/?utm_term=.bd73b640d770

[izabella]

17 hours ago, Lunata said:

At his rally tonight in Orlando, Trump told his crowd, "you people were vicious, violent, screaming, 'Where's the wall?' 'We want the wall!' Screaming, 'Prison!' 'Prison!' 'Lock her up!' I mean, you were going crazy. You were nasty and mean and vicious. And you wanted to win, right?" "It's much different," he said. "Now you're laid back, you're cool, you're mellow, right? You're basking in the glory of victory."

He just told his worshipers that they were vicious, violent, mean and nasty and they all reacted with cheers and applause.

He should have also mentioned how easily they are led, like lemmings, Comrades.

[Lunata]

Yes! It's happening, Donald Trump's FINAL "thank you" (aka "I miss the attention") tours is soon to be history.

The dummies are still chanting "build that wall! build that wall!".  Duh, get over it, there's never going to be a wall.  Donald said "do not worry, we are going to build the wall.

"We're also going to rebuild our badly depleted military, We have the greatest people on earth, our military is depleted. But we will be smart with how we spend our money. We're not going to spend $4.2 billion dollars on Air Force One, is that okay?" (crowd roars, yay!!)  We all like beautiful aircraft but Boeing is going to have to do a much less expensive job than that."  Donald Trump has NO IDEA what goes into those two presidential planes. There's over 160,000 workers involve in the building and technology of those planes.

Boeing may suggest a cheaper model that would be more affordable (and they promise it will fly). Okay, so it won't withstand nuclear heat or be able to fly faster than a supersonic jet fighter, but it will save a few bucks. It's not so pretty but it might fit right into Donald's 'Presidential Air Force One budget. All it needs is a good washing and maybe a wax, it will do just fine.

[stillshimpy]

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Nah, I don't want them dead...just their political careers and their business. 

I want Trump alive and a failure. Come on 2016, you've taken so much already. Take Trumps political career and we'll call it quits. --- end of thing I'm quoting because apparently this is a thing again -- end 

Beginning of response:  I'm with you on this.   It could not be clearer that I have a fury in my soul that threatens to cause me to burst into flame when it comes to the Malicious Pile of Hair but even I can't wish actual death on the damnable creature that he is.  It's bad enough that I've actually sat down and had to confront, "Holy crow, do I actually hope this guy will shuffle off the mortal coil, join the choir invisible, move on to his next incarnation as an actual pile of crap, rather than a metaphorical one?" because you know, it really hasn't ever been an issue in my life, wishing harm to others.

Truthfully, I don't want him, his family, or anyone else for that matter, harmed.  Therein lies the conundrum though because he's out to harm a lot of people, the environment, and pretty much anything he feels like.  He'd drop kick a puppy while grabbing a nun by the privates, and robbing an orphan's piggy bank if he thought it would benefit him at all.   He contains no actual good.  But if that jackass was on fire, I'd still put him out because of my humanity, not his.  

But oh how I want there to be a spectacular flameout in his very, very, very near future.  A flameout that will carry him (and his pet hairshirt wearing sidekick, that woman-hater Pence) far away from anything resembling power.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited December 17, 2016 by stillshimpy

[PatsyandEddie]

[Lunata]

Vladimir Putin is (among other things) a ruthless dictator, a cold blooded assassin, has committed genocide, is corrupt, throws critics in prison and never seen again, and wants to rule the world. Despite all of that, no matter how evil, scary and ruthless he is, I am STILL inclined to like him better than Donald Trump.

I try to remember that 'revenge is a dish best served cold' and I have to believe that ultimately the Trump dynasty will end and it will end badly. We might have to wait a while for it to happen but in the meantime, I can allow myself the pleasure of imagining things that would be possible now. Like Ivanka walking in dog poo or getting her period unexpectedly and stain the back of a $700 white dress she's wearing. Maybe watching as Donald's pants split in the ass when he sits at the inauguration dinner and it's photographed by thousands of people at the dinner.  Donald Jr. having a big white piece of food stuck to his lip as he gives an interview. I'd really like to watch as Eric Trump has his Eddie Munster hairstyle messed up by a cyclone wind or a pouring rain.  It's the little things in life that matter the most, ya know?

[stormy]

I'm waiting for the CNN breaking news:  plane flying over trump tower with banner "Free Melania"

[random chance]

1 hour ago, Lunata said:

Okay, so it won't withstand nuclear heat or be able to fly faster than a supersonic jet fighter, but it will save a few bucks.

 

You know what ... I'm just fine with that.

[SoSueMe]

3 hours ago, callmebetty said:

I wonder in the future how are alien overlords will look back at this time?

Well, taking a pessimistic view, I would venture a guess that they will laugh their asses (or alien equivalent) off at how a mental age of twelve sociopath could destroy global civilization.

[PatsyandEddie]

Lunata!

 

*****flatline****

[Duke Silver]

 

[PatsyandEddie]

Doesn't numbnuts mean @POTUS gets it done? Quietly? Through proper channels, like lodging a formal complaint rather than an idiotic twant?

[Rapunzel]

On ‎12‎/‎16‎/‎2016 at 10:30 AM, backformore said:

After the Kurt Eichenwald/Tucker Carlson interview, Kurt got a lot of hate on Twitter - ugly insulting comments.   One Trump supporter who had been messing with him posted a flashing light gif that is specifically designed to give someone a seizure.   They did that knowing that Kurt has epilepsy, and it did trigger a seizure.  He is trying to find the identity of the person, and intends to pursue legal action.   He tweeted that he was taking a break from twitter - and that was followed by more hate, ugliness, and insults, AND re-posting the flashing gif. 

People are assholes.

Twitter should ban people that do things like this. I know they could just create a new ID and come back, but honestly, they should implement some controls here as this is completely unacceptable and life threatening. I have a very close friend with Epilepsy and have seen them have grand mal seizures first hand. It is scary, and for a while afterwards the person is very disoriented, does not know where they are, can't speak properly, etc. Once they come back to a more stable state, they often need to sleep for hours to help their body and mind recover. At least, this is how it presented itself with my friend.

Any person that does something like this should be completely and totally ashamed of themselves. Anyone who knows them, regardless of their politics, should block this person and no longer associate with them. This is exploiting a condition that can be debilitating and can potentially cause significant harm to another human being. My husband and I have another friend who actually died whilst having an epileptic seizure - that is how severe these things can be. Depending on Eichenwald's condition and the type of seizures he has, he could potentially have a claim for attempted manslaughter. At a minimum, he should not hesitate to go after them civilly and have the book thrown at them knowing that it is something that could have caused him permanent brain damage and possibly even his life. As an attorney, I would love to take on a case like this and I know many others who would as well - completely pro bono.

Edited December 18, 2016 by Rapunzel

[Shannon L.]

My apologies if this was posted and I missed it (you guys move fast!), but I just hear this on the radio today and.....well, I don't know exactly what my feelings were (but, they were negative): 

‘It’s So Sad,’ Donald Trump Says of Syria, Promising ‘Safe Zones’

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“When I look at what’s going on in Syria, it’s so sad,” he told a crowd here. “It’s so sad, and we’re going to help people.” Mr. Trump said he would ask the Persian Gulf nations to put up money for the project, adding, “We’ll build and help build safe zones in Syria, so people will have a chance.”

I have no words.........

[Rapunzel]

6 minutes ago, Shannon L. said:

My apologies if this was posted and I missed it (you guys move fast!), but I just hear this on the radio today and.....well, I don't know exactly what my feelings were (but, they were negative): 

‘It’s So Sad,’ Donald Trump Says of Syria, Promising ‘Safe Zones’

I have no words.........

I can think of at least 4 words - He's a fucking moron.

Like these so called "safe zones" won't be targeted to be bombed? The other side is just supposed to respect the fact they are called "safe zones?" Look at how many civilians have been killed already in bombings and what not - labeling something as a "safe zone" is unlikely to deter much of anything - it could even potentially have the opposite effect and make those areas a bigger target.

Edited December 18, 2016 by Rapunzel

[Padma]

16 minutes ago, Rapunzel said:

I can think of at least 4 words - He's a fucking moron.

Like these so called "safe zones" won't be targeted to be bombed? The other side is just supposed to respect the fact they are called "safe zones?" Look at how many civilians have been killed already in bombings and what not - labeling something as a "safe zone" is unlikely to deter much of anything - it could even potentially have the opposite effect and make those areas a bigger target.

Those 4 words work. :(  They say he's "a poor man's idea of a rich man" and he's also a "stupid person's idea of a smart man".  I guess he wasn't paying attention on Thursday (because, really, he doesn't actually CARE), when the civilians were supposed to be allowed "safe" passage on buses out of Aleppo but when they arrived to board, they were fired on from the ground and the air.

On a related note, here are 3 Professors of Psychiatry who wrote the WH expressing their concerns for the president-elect's mental health and recommending a full professional evaluation:  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-greene/is-donald-trump-mentally_b_13693174.html

Edited December 18, 2016 by Padma

[Duke Silver]

[Pixel]

If I were Evan McMullin, I would embrace "Evan McMuffin", because that's the cutest damn nickname ever.

[GaT]

30 minutes ago, Shannon L. said:

My apologies if this was posted and I missed it (you guys move fast!), but I just hear this on the radio today and.....well, I don't know exactly what my feelings were (but, they were negative): 

‘It’s So Sad,’ Donald Trump Says of Syria, Promising ‘Safe Zones’

I have no words.........

"Mr. Trump said he would ask the Persian Gulf nations to put up money for the project,"

Right after he gets Mexico to pay for the wall.

[Silver Raven]

Kurt Eichenwald is a former Newsweek and current Vanity Fair reporter who has been actively anti-Trump.  His Twitter account has been extremely active, sending out pages and pages of reporting on Trump's illegal activities and conflicts of interest.  Eichenwald is well known to have epilepsy.  Some evil piece of shit sent him a tweet with the caption "You deserve a seizure", and sent him a link to a strobe light, hoping to trigger a seizure.  Eichenwald has had to withdraw from Twitter in self defense.

http://newcenturytimes.com/2016/12/17/trump-troll-forces-vanity-fair-editor-off-twitter-by-harming-him-and-its-horrific-tweets/

[numbnut]

40 minutes ago, Padma said:

a "stupid person's idea of a smart man". 

ROFL! You guys are cracking me up. And I seriously need to laugh to get through this era.

[HunterHunted]

BackForMore, Rapunzel, Silver Raven I hope some prosecutor decides to prosecute the tweeter for at least assault. If it ends up being a Republican district attorney, I hope they're smart enough to realize that you have to stop this shit before it goes too far because this is the kind of thing that teens get into and then you have a horrible national news story with parents sobbing on GMA. 

Also Twitter needs to ban this kind of thing and permanently ban people who pull this stuff. It's also possible that it might be prosecutable in a federal court because it involved interstate communications.

[callmebetty]

1 hour ago, Shannon L. said:

My apologies if this was posted and I missed it (you guys move fast!), but I just hear this on the radio today and.....well, I don't know exactly what my feelings were (but, they were negative): 

‘It’s So Sad,’ Donald Trump Says of Syria, Promising ‘Safe Zones’

I have no words.........

His idea of safe zones is probably fucking Trump hotels and the Persian Gulf nations fronting the money for it.

[KerleyQ]

6 hours ago, backformore said:

Yes, and I recall people who donated to charities  to help their friends compete on Celeb Apprentice, complaining that though money was raised to be given to a specific charity, the check had to be written to the Trump Foundation, and there was a discrepancy about who could then get the tax deduction for the donation. 

Something like the Eric Trump foundation exists for what reason?  to have people donate it to the foundation instead of directly to the charity?  Why? If I wanted to donate to St Jude's, wouldn't I just do that? 

Exactly.  It's a slush fund.  They use it so they can also take a tax deduction on your donation.  And, of course, not all of your donation gets passed on to the charity, because you know these fucking grifters are chopping off a generous "operating expense" portion of your donation before passing any money on (whenever they decide to be generous enough to pass it on to actual charities).  Compare it to the Clinton Foundation, where they are actually using the money to start projects and directly fund their initiatives, and it's mind boggling that the media let Trump get away with questioning the integrity of the Clinton Foundation when his family foundations are basically clearing houses that allow them to take credit for taking in money, holding onto it for a while (and likely, earning interest on it for themselves, knowing them), and then passing a portion of it on to a charity when it can make them look good.  And, even then, they're sometimes self-dealing.  It's just absurd.  

6 hours ago, sistermagpie said:

Trumpcast did an episode explaining this. Basically, many rich people have these foundations. When they have money they want to donate to charity they instead donate it to their personal foundation. That way they can immediately get the tax deduction. Usually it's okay because they actually do donate all the money to charity. They just get the deduction before they've decided where everything is going to go. The Clinton Foundation is an actual charity that does things itself.

With the Trumps, though, they use it more like a slush fund/fake charity. They I guess started out putting money into it and getting the deduction. Then they might or might not have donated the actual money to charity. Then they started getting other people to donate to it and they I guess used it to get PR (if the foundation donated money to cancer research, for instance, Trump would get credit for the donation even though it wasn't his money, and the cancer foundation might use his hotels because of it--Trump also makes a habit of seating himself prominently at charity things so he gets credit for donating even if he hasn't). Then they also would use money other people gave them for the foundation for personal things or charity donations that didn't meet the standards (the portrait Melania bought was at a charity auction, but since they kept the portrait and hung it in their own hotel, it's not charity).

That last one is the biggest deal in all of the Trump Foundation mess - using the money to buy himself stuff.  He uses money other people have donated to charity to buy himself stuff at charitable auctions.  He makes it look like he's bidding at these auctions, so he can get the headline of "Donald Trump donated this many dollars at a charitable auction last night to benefit X Charity."  But, you dig deeper, and the money never came from his pockets, and he walked away with a tangible item of value for himself.  It's disgusting to me that his supporters have zero problem with a man essentially stealing charitable contributions to enrich himself.  

5 hours ago, Padma said:

Does anyone know how much the victory laps are costing taxpayers?

That's what I want to know.  And shame on the media for not covering that aspect of it (or the "Dear Leader" aspect of this shit, instead acting like this is just normal conduct for a Pres-Elect).  And for the Republican voters, who pissed their pants in indignation every single time the Obama family took a taxpayer funded vacation (as every single POTUS has done, since it's part of the gig), to be totally fine with this assmonkey wasting taxpayers' money on his vanity stroking rallies, well, that just makes them look really fucking stupid.  I mean, we need our Presidents to take vacations.  It's an insanely stressful job (just look at the difference in first and last day in office pictures for all of them), you have to give them vacations to try to unwind a little bit, even if the POTUS never is truly off the clock.  And we have to pay a lot of money for it because they need the SS to travel with them, and they need wherever they stay to be secured as the SS deems necessary.  These rallies, though, for a man who hasn't even taken the oath of office yet?  There is no rational need for them.  

5 hours ago, SoSueMe said:

I have no doubt that those tours will happen. At this point there is no way that Trump can go cold turkey without the adoring crowds close up and personal. His neediness is pathetic. I suspect Pence will be doing most of the heavy lifting (God help us) while Donald does everything possible to keep the ego stroking coming. Pathetic.

I truly despair.

They absolutely will.  He's addicted to them.  I've seen a rumor that the idea originated when he told Kellyanne he was feeling down, and when she asked him what would make him feel better, he said "having another campaign rally."  Who knows if that's true, but I have zero problem believing that scenario.  

And, yes, God help us if Pence is running the show.  He'll just be a human rubber stamp for Paul and Mitch.  There will be absolutely no checks and balances in our government at all.  

1 hour ago, Rapunzel said:

Twitter should ban people that do things like this. I know they could just create a new ID and come back, but honestly, they should implement some controls here as this is completely unacceptable and life threatening. I have a very close friend with Epilepsy and have seen them have grand mal seizures first hand. It is scary, and for a while afterwards the person is very disoriented, does not know where they are, can't speak properly, etc. Once they come back to a more stable state, they often need to and sleep for hours to help their body and mind recover. At least, this is how it presented itself with my friend.

Any person that does something like this should be completely and totally ashamed of themselves. Anyone who knows them, regardless of their politics, should block this person and no longer associate with them. This is exploiting a condition that can be debilitating and can potentially cause significant harm to another human being. My husband and I have another friend who actually died whilst having an epileptic seizure - that is how severe these things can be. Depending on Eichenwald's condition and the type of seizures he has, he could potentially have a claim for attempted manslaughter. At a minimum, he should not hesitate to go after them civilly and have the book thrown at them knowing that it is something that could have caused him permanent brain damage and possibly even his life. As an attorney, I would love to take on a case like this and I know many others who would as well - completely pro bono.

Yes, this was just beyond the pale.  Trump supporters keep patting themselves on the back telling themselves that it's those damn liberals who are so angry and violent, but this shit is what they do.  Hell, even their Dear Leader told them this week that they're violent (and he loves them for it).  I would have zero problem telling anyone, no matter how close they are to me, that doing this was a deal breaker for me, and we were no longer going to speak with or see each other.  There's something seriously wrong with someone who would take it this far.  It's like that story a few weeks ago, about the 18 year old girl who killed herself in front of her family after being bullied.  When someone set up a memorial page for her on Facebook, after a couple days, people started posting the most vile messages on there, like "you should have done this sooner!" and drawings of a stick figure shooting herself, things like that.  I would never be able to feel anything positive towards someone who had acted like that.  They literally bullied that poor girl to death, and then they boasted about it on a memorial page for her family to see.  There's no way I could ever see past that.  

59 minutes ago, Shannon L. said:

My apologies if this was posted and I missed it (you guys move fast!), but I just hear this on the radio today and.....well, I don't know exactly what my feelings were (but, they were negative): 

‘It’s So Sad,’ Donald Trump Says of Syria, Promising ‘Safe Zones’

I have no words.........

He just has no clue about how anything works.  This is why you don't vote someone with no relevant experience into the highest office in our country.  Every single idea that has come directly from him has been some pie in the sky thing that has no basis in reality or any practical way to implement it or see the result he's promising.  

38 minutes ago, Padma said:

Those 4 words work. :(  They say he's "a poor man's idea of a rich man" and he's also a "stupid person's idea of a smart man".  I guess he wasn't paying attention on Thursday (because, really, he doesn't actually CARE), when the civilians were supposed to be allowed "safe" passage on buses out of Aleppo but when they arrived to board, they were fired on from the ground and the air.

On a related note, here are 3 Professors of Psychiatry who wrote the WH expressing their concerns for the president-elect's mental health and recommending a full professional evaluation:  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-greene/is-donald-trump-mentally_b_13693174.html

God, this!  I had one of his followers arguing with me the other day, telling me that I need to take some business courses, because I'm stupid enough to think that corporations are supposed to pay taxes.  "Only people are supposed to pay taxes!"  Yes, I'm just sitting here with an accounting degree, what could I know about taxes and businesses?  But this guy swore up and down that I was just another stupid liberal with no clue how business works.  And he's inspired them to be his kind of "smart" where you just confidently state what you believe to be true, with no back up, and anyone who disagrees is just stupid. 

34 minutes ago, Duke Silver said:

I seriously heart this man.  I know I have policy disagreements with him, but, damn, do I love this man.  I hope he keeps it up. 

[Duke Silver]

Ladies and gentlemen, the President-Elect of the United States:

[navelgazer]

1 hour ago, GaT said:

My apologies if this was posted and I missed it (you guys move fast!),

Donald Trump: A True Narcissistic Sociopath (Full)

http://trumpthemovie.com/blog/real-clear-politics-suppressed-documentary-from-1991-targets-gop-frontrunner-watch-trump-whats-the-deal-free

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Twenty-seven years ago, when Donald Trump was riding high, some filmmakers started to make a documentary film about him.  Twenty-five years ago, when Trump was on the ropes, they finished “Trump: What’s the Deal?”  No one saw it.

Donald Trump went after the very rich —- much richer than Trump —- mogul who had financed the film. He threatened to sue. Made personal attacks. The mogul decided he didn’t need the trouble. Not that anything the mogul decided really mattered —- no broadcaster would touch the film.  Score one for Trump.

Twenty-five years later, score one for the filmmakers —- ‘Trump: What’s the Deal?” is on the web.

What will you see? Trump working with the mob in Atlantic City, intimidating tenants, hiring illegal immigrant labor, verbally assaulting his family and underlings, trying to move a Florida airport because jets flew directly over his home... the list goes on and on.  

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-kornbluth/25-years-ago-a-documentar_b_9727252.html

[more at link]

 

The most interesting part to me was where they talk about how Twitler always was either going up to the line (of breaking the law) or frequently crossing it.  

Edited December 18, 2016 by navelgazer

[KerleyQ]

24 minutes ago, Duke Silver said:

Ladies and gentlemen, the President-Elect of the United States:

OK, see, Twitler, shit like this is why I prefer to call you our Presidon't-Elect.  Jesus.  

[kassa]

7 hours ago, Lunata said:

Putin/trump hug

The only thing wrong with that picture is there's no way Trump is ever the big spoon in this equation.

Edited December 18, 2016 by kassa

[tenativelyyours]

The Sphincter-In-Chief is right about the two proposed updated Air Force Ones. 
They are more costly than they should be.  Due to the needed technology and advances in protective measures.

Instead I want to say that I will be more than happy to pony up not just two Air Force Ones that this Walking Taint deserves. But, count 'em, FOUR!.  That's right folks.  Four.  I will personally underwrite the entire financial cost of the four Air Force Ones that will meet the requirements that the next President deserves.

 

[mythoughtis]

They should charge that Twitter user with assault/battery. He/she did every bit as much damage as physically hitting Kurt. My son has seizures. In addition to what others have said, a person who has a seizure cannot drive for at least 6 months( varies by state)and has to have a doctor certify the seizures are prevented with medication before they CAN drive again. This is very disruptive to their work and personal life. Not everyone lives in a city large enough to have convenient 24 hour public transportation, or understanding employers.

In other news.trump tweeted that the Chinese should keep our stolen drone. Does he understand they can take it apart, learn our technology and use it against us? 

Edited December 18, 2016 by mythoughtis

[izabella]

5 minutes ago, mythoughtis said:

In other news.trump tweeted that the Chinese should keep our stolen drone. Does he understand they can take it apart, learn our technology and use it against us? 

No, no he does not.  And he doesn't care that he does not understand.

[navelgazer]

A Scot Drumpf's age who is cut and fit and who looks angry at Drumpf and ready to do business.  

 

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The flags were raised near the [Drumpf] International Golf Links in Aberdeenshire by residents, who did it ‘a sign of solidarity with the people of Mexico.’   [Michael Forbes]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3653717/Mexican-flags-pop-Scotland-near-Donald-Trump-s-golf-course.html

 

[kokapetl]

On 17/12/2016 at 3:33 AM, Duke Silver said:

^^ A lot of them will, but they'll still blame "libtard cucks" for all their problems.  For a party/group of people who claim to believe in "pulling yourself up by the bootstraps" they sure like to blame others for their lot in life.  The hypocrisy is glaring to anyone who isn';t willfully blind.

This new "cuck" insult makes me laugh. The people who use it are basically telling everyone what one of their biggest fears is.  

[Duke Silver]

^^^ They're all a bunch of pathetic bedwetters w/ obvious fears of sexual inadequacy.  I've had IRL encounters w/ some of them.  IME, they talk tough when all grouped together &/or when they think they have someone cowed.  I have made it clear every occasion I'm no "soft libtard"; I make it clear I believe in my 2nd Amendment right to bear arms.  I'm also not a small guy, so physical intimidation doesn't work either.

[stormy]

I wish Twitter would ban him.  Hell, he didn't invite him to his big important tech meeting last week.

Payback, Twitter.  Please.

[NewDigs]

I kind of like that he's able to show his ass to all so regularly.

I wish he could not correct nor delete.

[Lunata]

After China took the underwater drone, Donald tweeted "this is unpresidented!" Then he corrected his spelling "this is unprecedented!"  Then China says they'll give it back. He responds to China, "We should tell China that we don't want the drone they stole back.- let them keep it!"

Yesterday, he said, "This is the last time I'll be speaking at a rally for, maybe a while. Ya know. They're saying 'as President, he shouldn't be doing rallies', I think we should, right? We've done everything else the opposite."

I wouldn't be surprised if he still needed them so badly after being sworn in as President that he continues to have these rallies in order to keep refilling the black hole that's his soul.  But he'll probably start charging admission, and dumbasses will pay admission too. He'll be traveling the country with his stupid red cap doing rallies while Ivanka, Beavis and Butthead take control of running the the United States business.

Edited December 18, 2016 by Lunata

[Duke Silver]

[random chance]

5 hours ago, Kokapetl said:

This new "cuck" insult makes me laugh. The people who use it are basically telling everyone what one of their biggest fears is.  

I had to look it up on Urban Dictionary.  You might as well insult people in Klingon.

18 minutes ago, NewDigs said:

I kind of like that he's able to show his ass to all so regularly.

So do I.

[Duke Silver]

9 minutes ago, Lunata said:

After China took the underwater drone, Donald tweeted "this is unpresidented!" Then he corrected his spelling "this is unprecedented!"  Then China says they'll give it back. He responds to China, "We should tell China that we don't want the drone they stole back.- let them keep it!"

Yesterday, he said, "This is the last time I'll be speaking at a rally for, maybe a while. Ya know. They're saying 'as President, he shouldn't be doing rallies', I think we should, right? We've done everything else the opposite."

I wouldn't be surprised if he needed the  so badly after being sworn in as President that he continues to have these rallies in order to keep refilling the black hole that's his soul.  But he'll probably start charging admission, and dumbasses will pay admission too. He'll be traveling the country with his stupid red cap doing rallies while Ivanka, Beavis and Butthead take control of running the the United States business.

Also, his meatball spokesman, Jason (??) Miller tweeted last night (I posted it here somewhere) that Trump had "done it again" or something, implying Trump had negotiated the return of the drone.  Yeah....suuuure.  Then Trump tweets that China can keep it.  What a fucking clown car.  The "best people" huh, Donald?

Edited December 18, 2016 by Duke Silver

[Lunata]

7 hours ago, navelgazer said:

A Scot Drumpf's age who is cut and fit and who looks angry at Drumpf and ready to do business.  

 

That man is Michael Forbes in Aberdeen, Scotland.

He is a farmer, part-time salmon fisherman and quarry worker from near Balmedie in Aberdeenshire, Scotland who became known after his refusal to sell his land to billionaire Donald Trump who is planning to build an extensive luxury golf course complex in the area. Forbes's farm, which is said by Trump to be in a state of disrepair, has the words "NO GOLF COURSE" painted on a shed.

He attracted media attention in the United States for standing up to Trump. Forbes has insisted that he will "never sell" his land to Trump despite being offered a payment £450,000 in addition to a salary of £50,000 per year for an unspecified job. The plans to build the golf complex were rejected in late November 2007 by Aberdeenshire Council but were later called in by the Scottish Government, who gave approval in November 2008.[6] He has been compared to the beachcomber character in the film Local Hero.

In August 2011, contractors hired by Trump fenced off a piece of land belonging to Forbes despite Forbes having the title deeds.

The Trump Organization at one point threatened to try to use a compulsory purchase order to forcibly remove him and his family from their land. Trump claimed that Forbes' property was a slum that would spoil the view from his new hotel. Forbes retorted that Trump can "take his money and shove it up his arse." The Tripping Up Trump Campaign have banded together to challenge the Trump organization on this issue. Hundreds of people bought small interests in Forbes' property and became co-owners, with the intention of making it hard to transfer title.