Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[gonecrackers]

This chick needs a hobby.

Where do they lock the kids up while they're playing nudie games? 🤮

Edited August 21, 2019 by gonecrackers

[QuinnInND]

30 minutes ago, gonecrackers said:

This chick needs a hobby.

Where do they lock the kids up while they're playing nudie games? 🤮

Hopefully they're in bed asleep. 

I need a drink after reading that. I'm pretty sure I lost a couple million brain cells. The whole thing is barf making.  Nobody is having sex that much with no birth control and not getting pregnant, unless they're having fertility problems. 

The thought of having sex with Dillweed makes me gag.   

[Trillium]

3 minutes ago, QuinnInND said:

Hopefully they're in bed asleep. 

I need a drink after reading that. I'm pretty sure I lost a couple million brain cells. The whole thing is barf making.  Nobody is having sex that much with no birth control and not getting pregnant, unless they're having fertility problems. 

The thought of having sex with Dillweed makes me gag.   

Because he always has to be vague, but it sounds like they are practicing some form of family planning. 

[Barb23]

Sorry Derick, I don't want or need a visit to a counselor as my birthday or Christmas gift.

He  didn't mention Boob & Mechelle being married for 35 years when he was talking about how long his parents & grandparents were married.  Not sure of his reasoning why they weren't included or if it was just an oversight but I think their 35 year marriage should have also been recognized. 

I have a friend who considers Chuck E. Cheese a form of birth control.  Any couple pondering having a child should spend a weekend afternoon there. 

[xtwheeler]

1 minute ago, Trillium said:

Because he always has to be vague, but it sounds like they are practicing some form of family planning. 

Came here to post this too! I nearly fell out of my chair. I know we've done this before, but is their god so puny that he can't figure out how to get around a condom, IUD, or "rhythm method/natural family planning"? I would think if their all-powerful god wanted them to have a blessing, nothing could stop it. So, either they're actively rejecting god's blessings, or their god is thwarted by a few millimeters of latex or two idiots looking at the calendar. I'm not impressed. 

[QuinnInND]

5 minutes ago, Trillium said:

Because he always has to be vague, but it sounds like they are practicing some form of family planning. 

Maybe Derelict is like the Greyhound bus. Always pulls out on time. 

[galaxychaser]

6 minutes ago, QuinnInND said:

Maybe Derelict is like the Greyhound bus. Always pulls out on time. 

You win the internet!!!

[gonecrackers]

22 minutes ago, QuinnInND said:

Hopefully they're in bed asleep. 

And hopefully no one gets a belly ache while mommy & daddy are 'busy' - if the poor kid wasn't already throwing up he will be then.

[EmeraldGirl]

Wow, that’s a lot to digest (says Derick before dinner!).

Jill will jump on the plumber any chance she gets. 

They both will apparently look at porn all day and sext with other people (that plumber again).

The kids are a total afterthought — they’re way too busy talking to and about each other every minute of the day they’re not in bed being freaky.

I hate when people don’t put children first. Relationships sometimes come and go, but your children are always your children — and they need you more than a horny, gagging skeleton.

[Ohiopirate02]

31 minutes ago, xtwheeler said:

Came here to post this too! I nearly fell out of my chair. I know we've done this before, but is their god so puny that he can't figure out how to get around a condom, IUD, or "rhythm method/natural family planning"? I would think if their all-powerful god wanted them to have a blessing, nothing could stop it. So, either they're actively rejecting god's blessings, or their god is thwarted by a few millimeters of latex or two idiots looking at the calendar. I'm not impressed. 

There are a lot of Christians who are fine with most forms of birth control, and Cathy is obviously one.  Different forms of birth control work in different ways, and they are fine with the forms where the egg never comes into contact with sperm like condoms or most forms of hormonal birth control.  Devices like IUDs that prevent implantation are verboten because they believe live begins when the sperm meets the egg.  They are also against the morning after pill because it can prevent implantation depending on where in her cycle the woman is.  

[Sew Sumi]

59 minutes ago, QuinnInND said:

Hopefully they're in bed asleep. 

I need a drink after reading that. I'm pretty sure I lost a couple million brain cells. The whole thing is barf making.  Nobody is having sex that much with no birth control and not getting pregnant, unless they're having fertility problems. 

The thought of having sex with Dillweed makes me gag.   

Never mind, didn't see the screenshot above. 😳

Edited August 21, 2019 by Sew Sumi

[Lunera]

Soooo, Derdick saw how much web traffic Jill's post got so he made a man version with pretty much the exact same stuff.

It's all freaking ridiculous but not allowing each other to be in the same room as someone of the opposite sex is the most insecure thing I've ever heard. So, what if his woman professor wants to have a one on one talk with him? Is he going to request a chaperone or ask that she leave the door open to prove they didn't get it on in her office? 

Jilly sounds like the type of woman who flashes her wedding ring at any guy that approaches her. They need to chill, it's not like they resemble Brad and Angelina. 

Their relationship is just sad. I believe they are on birth control, which makes them huge liars because they said they would leave the number of children up to god.

[Ohiopirate02]

2 minutes ago, Lunera said:

Soooo, Derdick saw how much web traffic Jill's post got so he made a man version with pretty much the exact same stuff.

It's all freaking ridiculous but not allowing each other to be in the same room as someone of the opposite sex is the most insecure thing I've ever heard. So, what if his woman professor wants to have a one on one talk with him? Is he going to request a chaperone or ask that she leave the door open to prove they didn't get it on in her office? 

Jilly sounds like the type of woman who flashes her wedding ring at any guy that approaches her. They need to chill, it's not like they resemble Brad and Angelina. 

Their relationship is just sad. I believe they are on birth control, which makes them huge liars because they said they would leave the number of children up to god.

Not going to lie, professors making sure someone else is aware of a one-on-one meeting with a student is sound policy.  Some conversations do need to happen without a chaperone, but the professor keeping the door cracked, or alerting a secretary that they are alone with a student don't seem that far-fetched to me.

[lucy711]

4 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

Not going to lie, professors making sure someone else is aware of a one-on-one meeting with a student is sound policy.  Some conversations do need to happen without a chaperone, but the professor keeping the door cracked, or alerting a secretary that they are alone with a student don't seem that far-fetched to me.

Yeah, it's actually a good practice.  It's sad, but it can take one allegation for your career to be ruined.  I used to be a high school teacher, and we were told years ago to never meet with a student alone unless the door to the classroom was wide open.  This was regardless of the sex of the student and the teacher. 

I don't think there is an epidemic of false sexual abuse allegations against teachers, but they can happen so teachers take a lot of precautions because you don't want that gossip around town- even if it can be disproven.

[Absolom]

28 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

There are a lot of Christians who are fine with most forms of birth control, and Cathy is obviously one.  Different forms of birth control work in different ways, and they are fine with the forms where the egg never comes into contact with sperm like condoms or most forms of hormonal birth control.  Devices like IUDs that prevent implantation are verboten because they believe live begins when the sperm meets the egg.  They are also against the morning after pill because it can prevent implantation depending on where in her cycle the woman is.  

There are Southern Baptists (what Derick is) who are fine with all of the above forms of BC just for the record.  Being Christian doesn't mean a person is against any form of birth control.  Being fundie or fundie AND quiverful is another matter entirely.

[xtwheeler]

33 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

There are a lot of Christians who are fine with most forms of birth control, and Cathy is obviously one.  Different forms of birth control work in different ways, and they are fine with the forms where the egg never comes into contact with sperm like condoms or most forms of hormonal birth control.  Devices like IUDs that prevent implantation are verboten because they believe live begins when the sperm meets the egg.  They are also against the morning after pill because it can prevent implantation depending on where in her cycle the woman is.  

I'm well aware of that. But we know that JB & Michelle are not that brand of Christian. Their "testimony" about their faith is that they used the pill, and believe their miscarriage after Josh was a punishment for that. (The pill prevents ovulation, so the egg fertilization is not a factor.) When you say "we will have as many children as God decides to give us" it is hypocritical, in my opinion, to attempt to thwart God's "blessings" by actively working against "God's plan" using birth control or NFP.

So no, the Duggars are not "fine" with any method that prevents egg & sperm meeting. The Dillards' embrace of birth control is counter to the Duggar's stated beliefs. But, since Derek is the "headship" Jill lives by his rules. (And as we've noted, he doesn't seem to be very happy in his role as parent.) 

From their website: "Then, Michelle went back on the pill, but she conceived and had a miscarriage. At that point they talked with a Christian medical doctor and read the fine print in the contraceptives package. They found that while taking the pill you can get pregnant and then miscarry. They were grieved! They were Christians! They were pro-life! They realized that their selfish actions had taken the life of their child."*

*if you get pregnant while on the pill, it does not cause miscarriage. Even if you accept their objection to birth control that prevents implantation of a fertilized egg, "FDA-approved contraceptive methods are not abortifacients. Every FDA-approved contraceptive acts before
implantation, does not interfere with a pregnancy, and is not effective after a fertilized egg has implanted successfully in the uterus.i
• No credible research supports the false statement that birth control causes miscarriages." That's from the official ACOG statement. 

So, bringing this all the way around, the Duggars do not believe in any method of birth control whatsoever. The Dillards' embrace of birth control is a deviation from that belief, but I guess they think that's cool since Derek is the boss. 

ETA: OHIOPIRATE02 said:

"Not going to lie, professors making sure someone else is aware of a one-on-one meeting with a student is sound policy.  Some conversations do need to happen without a chaperone, but the professor keeping the door cracked, or alerting a secretary that they are alone with a student don't seem that far-fetched to me."

It is absolutely the best practice, and often but not always also practiced at law firms. The thing is, if Derek does this "never meet another woman alone" thing, it essentially makes practicing law impossible. Plenty of times you need to meet with a client/lawyer/etc. privately and confidentially. No client is going to pay for 2 lawyers to sit there so one can babysit the other. If he has a female client, having a male friend or relative of hers sit in as chaperone is impossible because it destroys attorney-client privilege, not to mention is evidence of an inability to make sound decisions and think critically. No firm or client would put up with that. 

Edited August 21, 2019 by xtwheeler
More blabbing

[Absolom]

I was talking about Derick and SBC members quite obviously NOT about Jim Bob and Michelle as I was making a difference between SBC and fundie/quiverful.  

ETA:  Oops sorry person wasn't responding to me.

Edited August 21, 2019 by Absolom

[Ohiopirate02]

20 minutes ago, xtwheeler said:

I'm well aware of that. But we know that JB & Michelle are not that brand of Christian. Their "testimony" about their faith is that they used the pill, and believe their miscarriage after Josh was a punishment for that. (The pill prevents ovulation, so the egg fertilization is not a factor.) When you say "we will have as many children as God decides to give us" it is hypocritical, in my opinion, to attempt to thwart God's "blessings" by actively working against "God's plan" using birth control or NFP.

So no, the Duggars are not "fine" with any method that prevents egg & sperm meeting. The Dillards' embrace of birth control is counter to the Duggar's stated beliefs. But, since Derek is the "headship" Jill lives by his rules. (And as we've noted, he doesn't seem to be very happy in his role as parent.) 

From their website: "Then, Michelle went back on the pill, but she conceived and had a miscarriage. At that point they talked with a Christian medical doctor and read the fine print in the contraceptives package. They found that while taking the pill you can get pregnant and then miscarry. They were grieved! They were Christians! They were pro-life! They realized that their selfish actions had taken the life of their child."*

*if you get pregnant while on the pill, it does not cause miscarriage. Even if you accept their objection to birth control that prevents implantation of a fertilized egg, "FDA-approved contraceptive methods are not abortifacients. Every FDA-approved contraceptive acts before
implantation, does not interfere with a pregnancy, and is not effective after a fertilized egg has implanted successfully in the uterus.i
• No credible research supports the false statement that birth control causes miscarriages." That's from the official ACOG statement. 

So, bringing this all the way around, the Duggars do not believe in any method of birth control whatsoever. The Dillards' embrace of birth control is a deviation from that belief, but I guess they think that's cool since Derek is the boss. 

ETA: OHIOPIRATE02 said:

"Not going to lie, professors making sure someone else is aware of a one-on-one meeting with a student is sound policy.  Some conversations do need to happen without a chaperone, but the professor keeping the door cracked, or alerting a secretary that they are alone with a student don't seem that far-fetched to me."

It is absolutely the best practice, and often but not always also practiced at law firms. The thing is, if Derek does this "never meet another woman alone" thing, it essentially makes practicing law impossible. Plenty of times you need to meet with a client/lawyer/etc. privately and confidentially. No client is going to pay for 2 lawyers to sit there so one can babysit the other. If he has a female client, having a male friend or relative of hers sit in as chaperone is impossible because it destroys attorney-client privilege, not to mention is evidence of an inability to make sound decisions and think critically. No firm or client would put up with that. 

That is Derick responding and not Jill.  Derick did not come from a quiverfull family like the Duggar daughter-in-laws, so we know he has been exposed to different theology.  The real question is--how on board with this decision is Jill?  Every time one of the Duggar girls deviates from JB and Michelle's teachings, we are quick to say it was the husband's doing.  Is Derick exerting his authority as headship in family planning matters, or was this a mutual decision?  

As to being a lawyer with his rules about being alone with the opposite sex, only time will tell.  We currently have a vice president who also shares this view, so maybe it is not as limiting as us heathens imagine.

[fonfereksglen]

1 minute ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

That is Derick responding and not Jill.  Derick did not come from a quiverfull family like the Duggar daughter-in-laws, so we know he has been exposed to different theology.  The real question is--how on board with this decision is Jill?  Every time one of the Duggar girls deviates from JB and Michelle's teachings, we are quick to say it was the husband's doing.  Is Derick exerting his authority as headship in family planning matters, or was this a mutual decision?  

As to being a lawyer with his rules about being alone with the opposite sex, only time will tell.  We currently have a vice president who also shares this view, so maybe it is not as limiting as us heathens imagine.

My high school teacher nephew says it is SOP to have someone else present when meeting with any student.  He also coaches and says things like positioning a player or anything that involves touching a player have to be done with care.

[dariafan]

2 hours ago, PradaKitty said:

Derrick has Chuck E Cheese nights with the guys?!!! 

Maybe that’s the code name for the strip ckub they actually go to 

[Suzn]

36 minutes ago, fonfereksglen said:

My high school teacher nephew says it is SOP to have someone else present when meeting with any student.  He also coaches and says things like positioning a player or anything that involves touching a player have to be done with care.

The reason that teachers and coaches have that practice is quite different from the idiot Dillards.  Teachers, etc. wish to protect themselves from unfounded accusations and prevent the need to defend themselves from such.  The idiot and Jill don't trust each other and apparently themselves.  They think they are capable of being overcome with lust and will start fucking random people of the opposite sex if given the chance.

ETA  It's really hilarious if you think about it.  It's like a cliche porn situation: a repairman comes to the house; Jill throws herself on the floor, spread-eagle...  It seems that's what they are afraid may happen.

Edited August 21, 2019 by Suzn

[ozziemom]

Apparently they need to pay for special internet service to block all the bad things they might see, jeesh! And share SM passwords etc etc. No trust in this relationship. Very sad actually.

[fonfereksglen]

11 minutes ago, Suzn said:

The reason that teachers and coaches have that practice is quite different from the idiot Dillards.  Teachers, etc. wish to protect themselves from unfounded accusations and prevent the need to defend themselves from such.  The idiot and Jill don't trust each other and apparently themselves.  They think they are capable of being overcome with lust and will start fucking random people of the opposite sex if given the chance.

I was referring to his supposed lawyer rule, not their personal life.  If I missed the point, wouldn't be the first time!

Edited August 21, 2019 by fonfereksglen

[Suzn]

11 minutes ago, fonfereksglen said:

I was referring to his supposed lawyer rule, not their personal life.  If I missed the point, wouldn't be the first time!

The point was made that Jill needed to have a friend come to the house and be with her if there would be a repairman.

[Westiepeach]

Sheesh. I have adjoining office space with a *gasp* man who is not my husband. We spend every day alone together. We are friends. I am friends with his wife. He is friends with my husband. Shockingly, men and women CAN be just friends. Derwood’s head would explode. 

Not only that, we are having our kitchen remodeled. I have also been alone in my house with the contractor, the plumber, the painter... all men... and it never once crossed my mind to lose control and jump their bones. I am an adult and surprisingly don’t need a chaperone! Imagine that!

[Suzn]

2 minutes ago, Westiepeach said:

Sheesh. I have adjoining office space with a *gasp* man who is not my husband. We spend every day alone together. We are friends. I am friends with his wife. He is friends with my husband. Shockingly, men and women CAN be just friends. Derwood’s head would explode. 

Not only that, we are having our kitchen remodeled. I have also been alone in my house with the contractor, the plumber, the painter... all men... and it never once crossed my mind to lose control and jump their bones. I am an adult and surprisingly don’t need a chaperone! Imagine that!

How do you do it?  What a strong woman you are!

[Albanyguy]

5 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Seriously though, pretty much every parent I know considers Chuck E Cheese to be the deepest depths of hell.

The happiest day of my life was the day my youngest nephew decided he was too old for Chuck E. Cheese. I can't imagine going there without a small child in tow. 

[luvbadtv]

1 hour ago, Suzn said:

The point was made that Jill needed to have a friend come to the house and be with her if there would be a repairman.

Derrick isn't thinking out all the possibilities with this scenario.

[Sew Sumi]

14 minutes ago, luvbadtv said:

Derrick isn't thinking out all the possibilities with this scenario.

😂😂😂😂

You watch too much porn. 

[JoanArc]

3 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

Not going to lie, professors making sure someone else is aware of a one-on-one meeting with a student is sound policy.  Some conversations do need to happen without a chaperone, but the professor keeping the door cracked, or alerting a secretary that they are alone with a student don't seem that far-fetched to me.

He could just put Jill on skype using his cell.

[GeeGolly]

I don't get it. They preach and say they take this moral high road, but then need to put all these rules and services in place to keep them moral.

How about cheating is hurtful and wrong. Don't do it. 

Anyway, between the constant sex, praying, talking and watching videos (nevermind raising their children), when would they have a chance to even ponder the attractiveness of another human?

[cmr2014]

If Derick wrote this, I'll . . . -- well, I don't believe that he did:

Regularly discuss ways you can help each other feel more secure in your relationship and then do it! For example, it is really important to both of us that we have some kind of internet filtering service on our phones and laptops, so we decided to pay for a monthly Covenant Eyes filtering subscription and also limit some accessibility on our devices to help us be accountable to each other. We also share our social media passwords with each other. Another thing we purpose to do is to never be alone in the same room with someone of the opposite gender. Sometimes this is hard and requires more intentionality. For example, if I have a private meeting with a female, I may choose to leave the door open, or if Jill needs a repairman to come work on something at the house when I’m gone then she might invite a friend over while he’s there. We realize though that safeguards alone aren’t enough…it is more about the heart and commitment to purity, but they may be helpful in reducing the prevalence of some situations, or even just the appearance of evil. 

This is just another example of their insufferable need to "teach" their followers about all sorts of things they know nothing about. It looks to me like Jill and Derick are much happier now than they were a couple of years ago -- which is great, but "we've hat two good years out of five, so listen to us" doesn't really resonate with me. If they were to post something like "we had some problems early on in our marriage and these are some of the things we did that have helped us to reconnect." That might be human and relatable. Instead, we have two people who seem to be "getting along a little bit better" giving marriage advice. Just insufferable.

[gonecrackers]

6 hours ago, Trillium said:

Jill said sex 3-4 times a week, he’s saying 5-6 as a good place to start.

So do they check with each other or what?  Seems like a lack of communication happened.

If that's his starting point, where do they go from there? Maybe he's working up to several times/day...

Now we know why he needs a home office. 🙄

[sixlets]

Jill says 3-4 and Derick says 5-6.  Guess we now know what the big D and Becki from the third row are doing twice a week.  But not behind a closed door, because, Jesus.

[BradandJanet]

Jill's heavenly conversation with Derick's father is going to be interrupted by an angry clump of cells yelling at Jim Boob and Michelle about birth control pills, and Lauren chasing after Asa, who is doing his/her/its best to find a quiet place to hide. 

[Zella]

2 hours ago, Suzn said:

ETA  It's really hilarious if you think about it.  It's like a cliche porn situation: a repairman comes to the house; Jill throws herself on the floor, spread-eagle...  It seems that's what they are afraid may happen.

Bahahaha now I'm thinking of them as within the context of the porn video in The Big Lebowski, and I can't stop laughing. 

[Westiepeach]

Basically, nobody trusts anybody. Yep, great way to live. Sheesh. 

[beagletime]

2 hours ago, Suzn said:

The point was made that Jill needed to have a friend come to the house and be with her if there would be a repairman.

Well, I have a very interesting story about our neighbor lady and the plumber.  Apparently it does happen.  I just don't picture Jill as the seductress type.

[doodlebug]

4 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

There are a lot of Christians who are fine with most forms of birth control, and Cathy is obviously one.  Different forms of birth control work in different ways, and they are fine with the forms where the egg never comes into contact with sperm like condoms or most forms of hormonal birth control.  Devices like IUDs that prevent implantation are verboten because they believe live begins when the sperm meets the egg.  They are also against the morning after pill because it can prevent implantation depending on where in her cycle the woman is.  

Point of information:  The IUD doesn't prevent implantation.  That is old and inaccurate information.  Research has shown that women who conceive while an IUD is in place is no more likely to have failure to implant than anyone else.  The fact is that most fertilized eggs fail to implant.  Current thinking is that the IUD sets up a milieu within the uterus that decapacitates sperm, making them unable to fertilize an egg.  Sort of a fancy spermicide.

There has always been a misconception about IUD's and how they work.  They do NOT interfere with eggs that are already fertilized.  

[Ohiopirate02]

16 minutes ago, doodlebug said:

Point of information:  The IUD doesn't prevent implantation.  That is old and inaccurate information.  Research has shown that women who conceive while an IUD is in place is no more likely to have failure to implant than anyone else.  The fact is that most fertilized eggs fail to implant.  Current thinking is that the IUD sets up a milieu within the uterus that decapacitates sperm, making them unable to fertilize an egg.  Sort of a fancy spermicide.

There has always been a misconception about IUD's and how they work.  They do NOT interfere with eggs that are already fertilized.  

Yeah, that misconception runs deep in the "pro-life" community.   I also know that they do not understand how the morning after pill works especially when the woman has not ovulated yet.  I used to work for Walgreens in the pharmacy in a college town.  The CVS across the street refused to stock because the pharmacist was pro-life and it prevents implantation.   We just stocked more and raked in the money.  Like seriously raked in the money.   The markup on that is ridiculous around 20 bucks a unit.

[galaxychaser]

https://people.com/tv/jill-duggar-husband-derick-shares-tips-loving-wife-right-good-sex/

[MargeGunderson]

I was in my office this morning for at least 45 minutes with 6 guys and no ones clothes came off. I suppose I could confess this to Mr Gunderson, but he would be more concerned that I had lost my damn mind. 

[QuinnInND]

2 minutes ago, MargeGunderson said:

I was in my office this morning for at least 45 minutes with 6 guys and no ones clothes came off. I suppose I could confess this to Mr Gunderson, but he would be more concerned that I had lost my damn mind. 

But how could that happen?? You must have been covered head to toe, lest you defraud those men! After all, men are animals with no self control! 

[MargeGunderson]

1 minute ago, QuinnInND said:

But how could that happen?? You must have been covered head to toe, lest you defraud those men! After all, men are animals with no self control! 

I was wearing slim fit jeans and sheer shirt over a tank top. I was showing modest cleavage, both boob and toe. I also told them what to do, because I’m in charge. It’s a miracle that Satan himself didn’t show up.

[BetyBee]

28 minutes ago, galaxychaser said:

https://people.com/tv/jill-duggar-husband-derick-shares-tips-loving-wife-right-good-sex/

Ugh!  Derick is gross.  And full of crap.  

[mythoughtis]

So Derick slept in her room at the hospital every night  she was there after both C-sections? Seriously?  Most fathers want to go home and get a decent night sleep before the baby comes home. 

I do not believe the Duggars or, any parent of two children under 5 when they try to tell me they are having sex 5-6 times a week.  Children are exhausting and most people sleep  instead. 

I understand why adults who work with children and young adults have a second adult around. However, as an adult female, I regularly meet with male coworkers and bosses. If we need the conversation to be private,  we shut the damn door. I have had repairmen at my house for decades  by myself/ none have accosted me yet.  And since these men didn’t bring a chaperone, they were probably not fundamentalist Christian.  Yet we all survived. If a friend ever calls me to ask me to come over to chaperone her repairman, I won’t be able to answer for laughing.  This kind of nonsense is why the Duggars are laughed at. 

Finally - the Duggars are ignoring the ‘blessings from God’ that they claim each child is.  Seems to me they need to look into their hearts. 

[Westiepeach]

3 hours ago, Westiepeach said:

Sheesh. I have adjoining office space with a *gasp* man who is not my husband. We spend every day alone together. We are friends. I am friends with his wife. He is friends with my husband. Shockingly, men and women CAN be just friends. Derwood’s head would explode. 

Not only that, we are having our kitchen remodeled. I have also been alone in my house with the contractor, the plumber, the painter... all men... and it never once crossed my mind to lose control and jump their bones. I am an adult and surprisingly don’t need a chaperone! Imagine that!

OMG. I forgot to mention. Husband is a mechanic and he regularly drives women to/fro work or home. He is alone in a car with them. And I trust him. Because duh. I also don’t bring him lunch because he is a big boy and he can figure it out by himself. We also go close to 12 hours apart due to our daily work schedules. And we do not call one another unless it’s absolutely necessary, or if someone died. And if he ever seriously called me by a “cutesy” name I would probably have him committed. Jilly Muffin’s head would explode. 

[mythoughtis]

I wonder what Derick will do should he need to travel for work - conference, training, client meeting etc.  Most companies are  not going to be happy if wifey tags along every time or If he refuses to travel with a female co-worker. 

[jammaker]

14 minutes ago, mythoughtis said:

So Derick slept in her room at the hospital every night  she was there after both C-sections? Seriously?  Most fathers want to go home and get a decent night sleep before the baby comes home. 

Maybe, and I wouldn't fault them for it. Many hospitals are doing away with nurseries and strongly encouraging rooming in with your baby (sometimes giving no other options) even after a c-section.  So when you've just been cut open, still have a catheter, and are on some hefty medications, having another adult there becomes nearly a necessity.

After my last birth, my husband couldn't stay (other kids to take care of) and the nurses only took the baby to the nursery because I had lost too much blood and wasn't allowed to hold him yet. He was the only baby there that night; I was not the only c-section that day.

There are many things wrong with these people, but that I can't judge them for.

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Aside from the births, Derick has his own room in DA. I think they've slept apart plenty.