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1 hour ago, Christina87 said:

Doesn't derrick just love to have it both ways? We are seeing this more and more with fundie types, where the man expects to be head of household, with all the privileges that entails, but the wife can bend rules sometimes, like being allowed to work to support his lazy butt. 

Jill clearly wants to be a SAHM, yet she is dragged off to danger America, and while I don't believe either of them is doing much work, she has to pretend to do her duties there. I'm sure she would much rather just focus on her kids in a comfortable Arkansas house! Derrick, on the other hand...well, we've seen that Jill fixes him dinner even when she's not around. I'm sure that he doesn't help out around the house because he is the "man," but if Jill wanted to get a real job, he would probably be all for it!

i had a friend in college who was like the duggars. She even planned on saving her first kiss for marriage, and cried for like a week when she kissed a guy and it didn't work out. When she got married, it was to the laziest bum ever, who thinks he has a "get out of jail free card" for the rest of his life because he played high school football, and therefore should be revered without doing any work. She has a master's degree and works full time, and he works part time at a minimum wage job. Yet, he will not watch the kids on his four hours off every day, and plays video games instead. He won't even consider cooking or cleaning, and won't let her go out with friends. Someone asked if she could give him a frozen pizza and let him cook it while she went out, and she answered, "he'd never even consider it!" She gets the kids ready, takes them to daycare, works all day, picks them up, makes dinner, and puts them to bed while he has friends over late. He will also demand a sandwich during all this frolicking. It would be way easier if she was a single parent! None of our friends hang out with her anymore because she can't have friends, but one really tried by going to her house, but couldn't stand to see her treated like that. I could sort of see derrick going down this path if Jill was down, but fortunately she is also too lazy!

Don't give up on her. I know it's not easy, but what you're describing is classic abuse and when she is ready to leave, she will need all the support she can get. Keep in mind, most spousal abuse is mental and emotional, not physical---you may not see the marks, but they are no doubt covering her from head to toe. 

39 minutes ago, riverblue22 said:

I'm glad Izzy was with Cathy for a long time. I'm only sorry she had to give him back.  

I think he was better off with Grandma Cathy then his dim witted parents, so I'm giving them a pass on this one. My older was 21 months when baby sister came along (planned, we wanted them close) and if anyone got pushed off it was baby sister. I mean, all she did was sleep or eat for the first few months, so I'd put her in a carrier or in a bouncer and get on the floor and play with the younger. And I had a c/s so I get the mobility issues Jill may face, but it's doable with some planning. We never, ever wanted older to feel like she was replaced and we were very lucky that we never dealt with any sibling rivalry until they were 6 and 8 and little started forming her own leadership skills. 

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3 hours ago, sigmaforce86 said:

 

There's good and bad but the bad can certainly and quickly turn people off.  I went to visit a friend in Texas and she took me to her church - after the service she introduced me and the pastor said "Oh, you're from JOISEY" (yes he said it like that accent and all), then proceeded to throw out a bunch of stereotypical Goodfellas/Sopranos type statements all with that same dumb accident.  He thought he was being funny or charming I guess.  I kept smiling at him while thinking we don't fucking talk like that in real life.

JOISEY drives me up the wall.  Yes, many here have an accent.  They are often New York/Brooklyn/ng Island imports.  The exaggeration is affect, I have done it myself.  

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18 hours ago, MamaMax said:

Not to be a jerk, but if it's not dangerous, why would there be gates and an armed guard 24/7?  I think it is dangerous in CA, I mean, isn't kidnapping a real problem there?

I am sure there is some danger.  But there are gated communities here in USA and they aren't in dangerous places.  I think they amp it up but then again these are the same people that find pants on a girl dangerous so there you are!

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my second son was born via c-section, 2 years 7 months after my first.  I insisted my sister bring my oldest to the hospital so I could see him, missed him like crazy & couldn't wait to see what he thought of the new baby....he was not impressed at all, wanted mom all to himself, you know the norm. I can't not imagine not seeing him for almost 2 weeks with a new baby in the house, poor Izzy, it's all down hill from here on out bud. J&D don't need anymore kids, period. 

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1 hour ago, sheshark said:

JOISEY drives me up the wall.  Yes, many here have an accent.  They are often New York/Brooklyn/ng Island imports.  The exaggeration is affect, I have done it myself.  

My aunt lived in New Jersey most of her married life (she was from Seattle) and she did acquire somewhat of an accent, but never did she pronounce it Joisey.

It was still Jersey.  I myself like hearing regional accents if they're authentic.

Back to topic, I do think Izzy is very lucky to have such a loving Grandma who can focus on him one-on-one.  Meeechelle could never do that.

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Missy Vixen

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5 hours ago, Christina87 said:

Doesn't derrick just love to have it both ways? We are seeing this more and more with fundie types, where the man expects to be head of household, with all the privileges that entails, but the wife can bend rules sometimes, like being allowed to work to support his lazy butt. 

 

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It's astonishing to me that his family or friends haven't (from all appearances) said something to him about his slacker lifestyle. Wouldn't most guys be embarrassed to sit around all day watching their hair grow and posting screeds on social media instead of doing something productive with their time? If he thinks the woman who mouthed off to him about "are you done yet" on Twitter was offensive, maybe I need to follow him and ask if his sitting on his ass all day (oops, his "ministry") is a great example for his sons. Churches all over the country need volunteers, as does the Boys & Girls Clubs, the YMCA, food banks, on and on and on. Hey! Here's an idea: THE BOY SCOUTS. It's astonishing his bro hasn't tried to persuade him to get involved with a local troop. Then again, I'm sure Triple D's busy schedule of doing NOTHING might preclude that.

Why does he think he gets to sit around all day while there is a never-ending amount of housework, cooking, cleaning and every other damn thing that has to happen in a household?

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7 minutes ago, Missy Vixen said:

It's astonishing to me that his family or friends haven't (from all appearances) said something to him about his slacker lifestyle. Wouldn't most guys be embarrassed to sit around all day watching their hair grow and posting screeds on social media instead of doing something productive with their time? If he thinks the woman who mouthed off to him about "are you done yet" on Twitter was offensive, maybe I need to follow him and ask if his sitting on his ass all day (oops, his "ministry") is a great example for his sons. Churches all over the country need volunteers, as does the Boys & Girls Clubs, the YMCA, food banks, on and on and on. Hey! Here's an idea: THE BOY SCOUTS. It's astonishing his bro hasn't tried to persuade him to get involved with a local troop. Then again, I'm sure Triple D's busy schedule of doing NOTHING might preclude that.

Why does he think he gets to sit around all day while there is a never-ending amount of housework, cooking, cleaning and every other damn thing that has to happen in a household?

Maybe Cathy's husband has and that's part of the reason they don't seem to get along, course that's probably just wishful thinking on my part

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JoanArc

JoanArc

3 minutes ago, toodles said:

With two children in tow.  Small children at that.  No problem there.

"My wife will bee escorted my my mom and/or my sister in law with or two babies. Are there enough chairs? Oh and my inlaws will be by to share their love story. Do I get the manbun net now, or when I start working the deep fryer? I also might just wander off on my own to minister..."

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18 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

"My wife will bee escorted my my mom and/or my sister in law with or two babies. Are there enough chairs? Oh and my inlaws will be by to share their love story. Do I get the manbun net now, or when I start working the deep fryer? I also might just wander off on my own to minister..."

Or film my world famous reality show.  Also, do you mind if they film here?  They camera crew won't disrupt your business.  Much.  My various bazillion in-laws may drop by to just hang because they will want to make sure you are dressed in a godly enough manner and no one is defrauding me.  

Also, if you hear various people screaming NIKE  and staring at the ground, don't be alarmed.  They do that.  BTW, if you need help cleaning, I have a sister-in-law that likes to lick stuff.  I just thought I would mention it.

 

Ok, I'm done now.  

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awaken

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5 hours ago, Missy Vixen said:

It's astonishing to me that his family or friends haven't (from all appearances) said something to him about his slacker lifestyle. Wouldn't most guys be embarrassed to sit around all day watching their hair grow and posting screeds on social media instead of doing something productive with their time? If he thinks the woman who mouthed off to him about "are you done yet" on Twitter was offensive, maybe I need to follow him and ask if his sitting on his ass all day (oops, his "ministry") is a great example for his sons. Churches all over the country need volunteers, as does the Boys & Girls Clubs, the YMCA, food banks, on and on and on. Hey! Here's an idea: THE BOY SCOUTS. It's astonishing his bro hasn't tried to persuade him to get involved with a local troop. Then again, I'm sure Triple D's busy schedule of doing NOTHING might preclude that.

Why does he think he gets to sit around all day while there is a never-ending amount of housework, cooking, cleaning and every other damn thing that has to happen in a household?

Seriously. There is SO MUCH he could be doing during this time to further their ministry, minister to those in Arkansas, develop skills, further their education, etc.  even some type of habitat for humanity volunteering. 

Please do ask him on twitter!  The nerve of him posting that sluggard proverb to chastise the rest of us when he's the very definition. 

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Loves2Dance

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To be fair, I thought the comment from that lady on twitter was incredibly rude. As a mom of 2 little girls, I think equally as less of those who ask stupid questions like, "When will you have a boy?" Jokes on them, my husband was snipped. 

However, what I also find rude is that of all of the comments Derrick could possibly chose to respond to, he chose that one. How about answering one about how your wife and child are doing instead. 

And Derrick...friends? Nah. Not unless you count the Duggar brothers and they have no sense left either. 

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ginger90

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15 minutes ago, Marshmallow Mollie said:

I wonder what happens on Sunday when the offering plate gets passed around. And if you believe so strongly in your mission, why aren't you trying to raise funds for SOS?

Setting up a donate button and establishing a ministry seems to be the only effort thay have given. All of which can be done sitting on their butts.

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Missy Vixen

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20 hours ago, Christina87 said:

I've got two words for derrick: temp job! I'd be all for him doing an honest day's work. Plus, he has already worked for worldly Walmart, so certainly he could handle being around women and non-christians!

It's hard to imagine that there is not a non-profit in the entire state of Arkansas that does not need a volunteer that would be able to assist the accountant. It's also pretty funny that we've never seen him substitute teaching again. Most school districts are crying for anyone with a degree that would be willing to sub while teachers are sick or need time off.

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Christina87

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I just don't understand how derrick can keep posting things like this when he NEVER gets a positive reaction. He absolutely opens himself up to all the criticism he gets. The fact that he keeps doing this tells me he is a jerk who likes to stir the pot. 

I think most people who constantly get shot down online grow somewhat wary of it. I had a "traumatic" experience as a kid on a Mary-Kate and Ashley board, hahaha. My sister and I both made separate accounts and wrote basically the same opinion, thinking we could make it look like our opinion was more widespread. Everyone on that board ATTACKED us, and I was so terrified to post online again that I didn't until about maybe two years ago (except for social media). I loved lurking on boards like this, and it was my new year's resolution to get over that fear and post! I had such an extreme reaction to being called out, yet derrick continues to bait people every day. I don't get it!

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Natalie68

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2 minutes ago, Christina87 said:

I just don't understand how derrick can keep posting things like this when he NEVER gets a positive reaction. He absolutely opens himself up to all the criticism he gets. The fact that he keeps doing this tells me he is a jerk who likes to stir the pot. 

I think most people who constantly get shot down online grow somewhat wary of it. I had a "traumatic" experience as a kid on a Mary-Kate and Ashley board, hahaha. My sister and I both made separate accounts and wrote basically the same opinion, thinking we could make it look like our opinion was more widespread. Everyone on that board ATTACKED us, and I was so terrified to post online again that I didn't until about maybe two years ago (except for social media). I loved lurking on boards like this, and it was my new year's resolution to get over that fear and post! I had such an extreme reaction to being called out, yet derrick continues to bait people every day. I don't get it!

It def can give you pause.  Every time I see someone quoted me I kinda tense up and then think, nah people are nice here.  Twitter has gotten horrible with bots that like to rip ya a new one.  

I think the Dillweeds are just not aware of how easy it is to snark on them.  I try to be nice but then remember robocalls, their opinions on things I think are important, and how they cheered almost running over a cat.  Then I don't feel so bad.  Mess with cute kitties and its ON!

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Christina87

Christina87

18 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

It def can give you pause.  Every time I see someone quoted me I kinda tense up and then think, nah people are nice here.  Twitter has gotten horrible with bots that like to rip ya a new one.  

I think the Dillweeds are just not aware of how easy it is to snark on them.  I try to be nice but then remember robocalls, their opinions on things I think are important, and how they cheered almost running over a cat.  Then I don't feel so bad.  Mess with cute kitties and its ON!

I know, right? It took me a long time of reading here to feel like it was safe. The only people I've ever had be nasty to me are people who rarely post, and only visit when a big/controversial event has happened. Most of the regulars are nice though!

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Natalie68

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1 minute ago, Christina87 said:

I know, right? It took me a long time of reading here to feel like it was safe. The only people I've ever had be nasty to me are people who rarely post, and only visit when a big/controversial event has happened. Most of the regulars are nice though!

Me too!  Even when someone has a different opinion they are usually nice about it.  I try to be but sometimes it comes across snarkier than I intended.  I never want to make anyone feel badly.  Well there are a couple of people in real life NOT HERE I want to feel sorta bad :) but they totally deserve it.  HA!  That said I was always too scared to post in TWOP.  

It seems like Jill is taking a lot longer to show pics of her and her baby than she did with Iz and longer than Jessa/Henry.  Cue:  What's Up With That theme song from SNL...

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Guatemama3641

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On 7/19/2017 at 8:38 PM, MamaMax said:

Not to be a jerk, but if it's not dangerous, why would there be gates and an armed guard 24/7?  I think it is dangerous in CA, I mean, isn't kidnapping a real problem there?

Yes, Central America is dangerous- just like anywhere else if you don't pay attention to your surroundings, flash money, etc. Yes, kidnapping does happen, but mainly to people who have families who have access to money or other valuables. No sense in kidnapping someone when there is nobody to pay a ransom.

Armed guards are EVERYWHERE down there, from stores to street corners. That part is not unsual. Many countries, especially El Salvador and Guatemala (where they seem to spend most of their time) are only a couple decades past brutal civil wars and the income inequality is massive. Many are armed simply as a result of having to live in a state of war for 30 plus years.

I am heading back down to Guatemala in a couple weeks. I do not live in a gated community, but there is a Policia National presence around my area. I'll pass a few here and there on my way  to Mc Donalds and to the bus stop. I really don't think too much of it. I know I have posted on here before how much I hate how Jill and Derjerk carry on about the danger. Show some beauty- El Salvador is gorgeous!!

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kokapetl

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1 hour ago, Christina87 said:

I just don't understand how derrick can keep posting things like this when he NEVER gets a positive reaction. He absolutely opens himself up to all the criticism he gets. The fact that he keeps doing this tells me he is a jerk who likes to stir the pot. 

I think most people who constantly get shot down online grow somewhat wary of it. I had a "traumatic" experience as a kid on a Mary-Kate and Ashley board, hahaha. My sister and I both made separate accounts and wrote basically the same opinion, thinking we could make it look like our opinion was more widespread. Everyone on that board ATTACKED us, and I was so terrified to post online again that I didn't until about maybe two years ago (except for social media). I loved lurking on boards like this, and it was my new year's resolution to get over that fear and post! I had such an extreme reaction to being called out, yet derrick continues to bait people every day. I don't get it!

It's easy to overlook the amount of social media followers Derick has, and how many likes he gets for absolutely anything he posts. 

What did you say about the Olsen twins?

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mythoughtis

mythoughtis

Let's remember that Jill  has pretty much led an extremely sheltered life in terms of real physical danger from criminals. Her hometown doesn't  need armed guards on every corner. She has always travelled in a pack and any strangers that spoke to her treated her friendly. Hence no worries about talking to the boys on the beach in Israel. Pops has always been right next to her ensuring that a male never got too close.  She had never been allowed  to walk to the park alone or go to a store alone. I'm sure DA is extremely scary to her- scary enough that she really needs a life coach. 

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sometimesy

sometimesy

30 minutes ago, Kokapetl said:

It's easy to overlook the amount of social media followers Derick has, and how many likes he gets for absolutely anything he posts.

Agree

The Seewalds are higher, but the Dillards look close to this

Twitter Derick 100,000+, Jill 200,000+

Instagram Derick 800,000+ Jill 1,500,000+

Most of those people follow because they are fans. He is legitimately supported in most of what he says, even though there are some really critical responses to some of his posts.

I detest this couple, but you have to admit that they do have swagger in their own arena. Those social media numbers can be parlayed into $ and opportunities from a certain market.

Christina87

Christina87

1 hour ago, Kokapetl said:

It's easy to overlook the amount of social media followers Derick has, and how many likes he gets for absolutely anything he posts. 

What did you say about the Olsen twins?

It was something about that last TV show they did...so little time, I think it was called? I thought it was a really lame show, hahaha! Most of the people on the board were leghumpers, but that show was terrible! I loooooved two of a kind, though. I was crushed when that only lasted one season! ?

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McManda

McManda

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1 hour ago, Christina87 said:

It was something about that last TV show they did...so little time, I think it was called? I thought it was a really lame show, hahaha! Most of the people on the board were leghumpers, but that show was terrible! I loooooved two of a kind, though. I was crushed when that only lasted one season! ?

Oh man, I watched that show. I honestly don't remember anything about it other than I watched it because it also had the one guy from their movie Winning London in it ... and I had a huge crush on him. (The American guy, not Jesse Spencer.)

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