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Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!


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On 12/13/2022 at 1:28 PM, MaryAnneSpier said:

I want to jump in a bit to respond to previous posts criticizing Christian schools. Yes, some of them are an absolute joke, but my personal experience was positive.

From pre school through 4th grade, I attended a Christian school and then transferred to a small-town public school. I was at least one, if not two, years ahead academically in the public school. The book we used at the public school for Reading was literally the exact same one I used the year before at the Christian school. Yes, the Christian school had Bible class twice a week and chapel once a week, but the teachers found ways to incorporate Christian ideals, scripture verses, stories, etc into other lessons. I am glad that I did move into a public school when I did; even at 10 I had some culture shock and I can't imagine what it would have been if I'd been solely Christian school educated al lthe way until HS graduation. 

That said, if Jill is indeed homeschooling the boys instead of going to school, I worry about the amount and quality of education they're actually getting. Jill is a product of SOTDRT "education" so I don't see her offspring benefitting at all from her instruction.

I had one kid in Christian school..one in public...the one in public - just focusing on academics...was at least 2-3 years behind...kid had to have lots of remedial classes her first year and a half of college...my son went to an all catholic boys school...he got out and went on to college on a full scholarship...so there is a difference...and my daughters public school was a good school that offered a baccalaureate program...so supposedly no slouch in the academic dept...it really depends on the school and on the kid and the homelife....an interesting read on homeschooling - the colfax family in Canada...they did "unschooling"...very very interesting...my daughter sends our 2 grands to a private Christian school that follows that unschooling formula...and if I do say so myself...my 2 grands are brilliant!!

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1 hour ago, Snow Fairy said:

They posted a new video about finding out Fenna's breed. And Jill to me looks very happy and relaxed

I watched it and you are right. Jill does seem happy and relaxed. I'm so glad that they love their dog, who is very bouncy and full of energy. That's not always the norm with these families that we discuss on here!

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Fenna might be a mix of GSD and Dobie, but she's 100% cute. 

I'm also glad Jill is doing genetic tests with Fenna if only because it introduces concepts like DNA and inheritance to the kids. I have a friend who used to teach at a Christian school and says DNA was not allowed to be mentioned in the curriculum.

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Cute video, I am glad they love Fenna. That was a fun and educational for the boys.  In the comments on IG someone commented about about having a miscarriage very recently and asking for help on how to deal with the loss. Though it was odd she commented on the post about Fenna.  Jill did respond and after the brief "christian type response" she said the following which is encouraging.

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I hope you are able to connect with a licensed therapist to help you walk through this very traumatic time.

 

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2 hours ago, Jynnan tonnix said:

Aren't Malinois and other Belgian shepherds pretty closely related to German shepherds?

Yes, many police K9 are now Malinois rather an G. Shepherd because of how the breeding standard has changed for shepherds.  Shepherds used to have a straight line from head to hindquarters.  Now they have a slumping hindquarter which had led to great controversy and reports of disability as the dogs get older.

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6 hours ago, Jynnan tonnix said:

Aren't Malinois and other Belgian shepherds pretty closely related to German shepherds?

I'm sure they are. I was just surprised that it wouldn't show up as its own thing since it's been its own breed for a while. But I also tend to find DNA results for humans' ancestry/ethnicity pretty illogical too. 

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2 minutes ago, Zella said:

I'm sure they are. I was just surprised that it wouldn't show up as its own thing since it's been its own breed for a while. But I also tend to find DNA results for humans' ancestry/ethnicity pretty illogical too. 

My DNA came back 100% accurate based on the information I had from my birth mother. I did it to see if what I'd been told was wrong. 

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6 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

My DNA came back 100% accurate based on the information I had from my birth mother. I did it to see if what I'd been told was wrong. 

My biggest problem is that a lot of how they want to break down backgrounds is just not how history works. When you say someone's ancestry is Scottish, what does that mean? They could be Celtic, Norman, Viking, etc. So, what exactly is popping up as Scottish? Can you be Scottish and not ping as Scottish because you're not fitting their narrow definition? Would that pop up as French and/or Scandinavian for Norman and Viking--and if not, why not? Nobody has ever explained that to me adequately, and between that and privacy concerns, it's a big soapbox topic for me. 

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Does Fenna live in the garage? She looked super excited to be let in the house. Every dog I've ever owned saunters into the house like its their kingdom. Plus, I never saw a water bowl anywhere, although maybe she's a toilet (ew) drinker.

I'm not sure I'd traumatize my dog to do DNA. Whether she's "crazy" or not.

She is one pretty dog. 🐕

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42 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Does Fenna live in the garage? She looked super excited to be let in the house. Every dog I've ever owned saunters into the house like its their kingdom. Plus, I never saw a water bowl anywhere, although maybe she's a toilet (ew) drinker.

I'm not sure I'd traumatize my dog to do DNA. Whether she's "crazy" or not.

She is one pretty dog. 🐕

I don't know how it is in the new house, but in the old house it seems as if Fenna's crate was in the garage but she wandered in and out of the house during the daytime.

Fenna seems well fed and well cared for. She's a cutie pie.

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1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

Damn, this is one place I would come close to selling my soul. I would love to try all these different meal subscriptions out, even in the name of shilling. I'm so tired of the, what's for dinner, game. I would just like about 6 months of a break, lol.

So yup, I'm jealous of Jill. In this moment anyway.

I would be happy to make your meals for you. I adore cooking. I adore grocery shopping for my cooking. I read cookbooks for pleasure. I cook all of our meals for the week on Sunday so I never have the dreaded “what’s for dinner?” game. My husband is spoiled rotten and doesn’t even realize it.

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3 minutes ago, Westiepeach said:

I would be happy to make your meals for you. I adore cooking. I adore grocery shopping for my cooking. I read cookbooks for pleasure. I cook all of our meals for the week on Sunday so I never have the dreaded “what’s for dinner?” game. My husband is spoiled rotten and doesn’t even realize it.

You are my dream come true. I will fix anything that is broken. I will redo anything that needs redoing and I will build you anything that needs building in exchange for you feeding us.

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2 minutes ago, Westiepeach said:

I would be happy to make your meals for you. I adore cooking. I adore grocery shopping for my cooking. I read cookbooks for pleasure. I cook all of our meals for the week on Sunday so I never have the dreaded “what’s for dinner?” game. My husband is spoiled rotten and doesn’t even realize it.

But are your meals chef "curated" using "clean" ingredients?  

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1 minute ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

But are your meals chef "curated" using "clean" ingredients?  

Oh darn. My bad. I only use “good” ingredients. They are “clean” but not the kind of “clean” JillyMuffin if referring to. Oh well. I guess I won’t be supplying meals for the Dillards.

4 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

As long as she washes her hands and ties back her hair, I'm good.

Hands are constantly washed, hair is short so…

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8 minutes ago, Westiepeach said:

Oh darn. My bad. I only use “good” ingredients. They are “clean” but not the kind of “clean” JillyMuffin if referring to. Oh well. I guess I won’t be supplying meals for the Dillards.

That's okay, I'm sure Jilly Bean doesn't even know what clean even means.  I just looked up the ingredients list for that Fusion FeastBox, and it appears to be no different from what I can go get at my local Food Lion (or the Chinese joint next to the Food Lion)--

INGREDIENTS: KUNG PAO BEEF (BEEF SIRLOIN, KUNG PAO SAUCE (COCONUT AMINOS (COCONUT SAP, SEA SALT), WATER, CHICKEN BROTH, RICE VINEGAR (WATER, RICE), ERYTHRITOL, MONK FRUIT EXTRACT, GARLIC, SESAME OIL, SESAME SEEDS, GROUND GINGER, XANTHAN GUM), KUNG PAO VEG (ZUCCHINI, RED PEPPER, ONION, SCALLIONS, CASHEWS, CHILI FLAKES)), FRIED RICE (RICE, EGGS, CARROTS, PEAS, SOY SAUCE (WATER, WHEAT, SOYBEAN, SALT, SODIUM BENZOATE (PRESERVATIVE), SCALLIONS, ONION, AVOCADO OIL, GARLIC, SEA SALT, SESAME OIL, BLACK PEPPER), CHOW MEIN CHINESE (CHOW MEIN NOODLE (CHOW MEIN NOODLES), CHOW MEIN VEG (GREEN CABBAGE, CELERY, ONION, AVOCADO OIL), CHOW MEIN SAUCE (BROWN SUGAR, SOY SAUCE (WATER, WHEAT, SOYBEAN, SALT, SODIUM BENZOATE (PRESERVATIVE), GARLIC, GINGER, CANE SUGAR, WATER, BLACK PEPPER)), CHICKEN THIGH, ORANGE SAUCE (BROWN SUGAR, DISTILLED VINEGAR, CORNSTARCH, ORANGE ZEST, ORANGE JUICE, SOY SAUCE (WATER, WHEAT, SOYBEAN, SALT, SODIUM BENZOATE (PRESERVATIVE), RICE VINEGAR (WATER, RICE), GINGER, CANE SUGAR, WATER, GARLIC, AVOCADO OIL, SESAME OIL, RED PEPPER FLAKES), STEAMED VEG (BROCCOLI, BLACK PEPPER, GARLIC POWDER, SEA SALT, ZUCCHINI, CARROTS, GREEN BEANS, GARLIC POWDER, BLACK PEPPER, SEA SALT, BLACK PEPPER, SEA SALT), ENRICHED FLOUR (WHEAT FLOUR, NIACIN, REDUCED IRON, THIAMINE MONONITRATE, RIBOFLAVIN, FOLIC ACID), SUGAR, WATER, SOYBEAN OIL, VANILLA FLAVOR, SALT, BAKING SODA, WATER, WHEAT, SOYBEANS, SALT, ALCOHOL, VINEGAR, LACTIC ACID, CHILI, SUGAR, SALT, GARLIC, DISTILLED VINEGAR, POTASSIUM SORBATE, SODIUM BISULFITE, XANTHAN GUM

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On 1/1/2023 at 6:41 PM, GeeGolly said:

Does Fenna live in the garage? She looked super excited to be let in the house. Every dog I've ever owned saunters into the house like its their kingdom. Plus, I never saw a water bowl anywhere, although maybe she's a toilet (ew) drinker.

I'm not sure I'd traumatize my dog to do DNA. Whether she's "crazy" or not.

She is one pretty dog. 🐕

Getting the DNA only involves swabbing saliva, not traumatic at all.

I, too, really hope that Fenna doesn’t live in the garage!

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1 hour ago, LilJen said:

Getting the DNA only involves swabbing saliva, not traumatic at all.

I, too, really hope that Fenna doesn’t live in the garage!

I was referring to the video. They basically chased Fenna throughout the house then trapped her in a room and kept trying to force the swab in her mouth. It looked pretty traumatic to me.

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15 minutes ago, floridamom said:

These products that Jill advertises, I assume are given FREE to her in exchange for the ads...she gets them for free; WE have to pay for them. I believe the same is for all of the Duggar ladies and Bates ladies. I don't like them doing this. It just doesn't sit right with me.

I wouldn’t be so sure. I get a promo code to share with people automatically from various places (Bombas, Home Chef) and I’m a nobody who barley uses Facebook and never Instagram. They could just be simply sharing those codes. You get a credit if someone uses your referral link.  Maybe these are exclusive deals they have been given to promote, but a lot of these companies give them to anyone.

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2 minutes ago, Trillium said:

I wouldn’t be so sure. I get a promo code to share with people automatically from various places (Bombas, Home Chef) and I’m a nobody who barley uses Facebook and never Instagram. They could just be simply sharing those codes. You get a credit if someone uses your referral link.  Maybe these are exclusive deals they have been given to promote, but a lot of these companies give them to anyone.

She has a paid partnership:

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https://manychat.com/blog/paid-partnerships-on-instagram/

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27 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

She has a paid partnership:

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Even with those, the company doesn’t just give them free stuff upfront. Typically they need X number of people to purchase with her code then Jill would get a credit for future orders or a refund on what they bought. Companies don’t give away free things unless the “influencer” actually gets people to buy the product, unless you are super famous. None of the girls stick with any of these for long, probably because not enough people use their code to make it worth continuing.  

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Its my understanding companies do send the products for free, initial and otherwise. Influencers then shill them with a code personal to them and they see how it goes from there. If it works the influencer gets a small percent of the sales and the company will send new products periodically. With subscription shills the influencer gets a percent for as long as the consumer keeps it going.

If it doesn't work well, the influencer got some free products, the company at least got their name out there, then they both move on.

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2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I was referring to the video. They basically chased Fenna throughout the house then trapped her in a room and kept trying to force the swab in her mouth. It looked pretty traumatic to me.

That sounds like Jill and Derick.  Why not sneak up on the dog and try to very gently do it while she's asleep?

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3 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Its my understanding companies do send the products for free, initial and otherwise. Influencers then shill them with a code personal to them and they see how it goes from there. If it works the influencer gets a small percent of the sales and the company will send new products periodically. With subscription shills the influencer gets a percent for as long as the consumer keeps it going.

If it doesn't work well, the influencer got some free products, the company at least got their name out there, then they both move on.

And in all likelihood, Jill got paid a decent amount of money for just the post itself.

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3 hours ago, Suzn said:

I don't get the difficulty in getting a saliva swab from a dog you know.  You sit down, call the dog, talk to the dog, pet the dog, pick up the swab, and while still petting the dog, quickly dip the swab in the dog's mouth.  There's no reason for difficulty.

I don't know about dogs but if we tried to do that to my cat, blood would be shed. 

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