Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events

[crazy8s]

1 minute ago, GeeGolly said:

Or Jessa's handiwork. 

or maybe Josie is learning to be the family barber.

[Trillium]

It’s truly baffling how the back and sides of his hair have flecks of grey, but the top part, no grey at all. 🤔 Male patterned baldness must be on Michelle’s side of the family, because JB isn’t balding one bit! 🙄

[Ohiopirate02]

Just now, Trillium said:

It’s truly baffling how the back and sides of his hair have flecks of grey, but the top part, no grey at all. 🤔 Male patterned baldness must be on Michelle’s side of the family, because JB isn’t balding one bit! 🙄

Or that tiny Just for Men bottle of hair color is not enough to cover all of JB's hair.  

[Jynnan tonnix]

Just now, Trillium said:

It’s truly baffling how the back and sides of his hair have flecks of grey, but the top part, no grey at all. 🤔 Male patterned baldness must be on Michelle’s side of the family, because JB isn’t balding one bit! 🙄

I think that male pattern baldness runs through the female side of the family anyway, so even if he is going bald (which, it sure appears as though he is, unless his gray is coming in like none I have ever seen before), he doesn't have to take any blame for it running through his offspring. 

Mostly, though, I found myself thinking that I've never noticed before that his profile was so wonky...his nose is strangely flattened, and he looks to have a bit of an underbite. Like there is some bulldog mixed in there or something.

[CountryGirl]

Loving this photoshop:

[Minivanessa]

21 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Do any of you lawyers know how much time is needed from knowing a verdict is reached, to then assemble in court to read the verdict?

It will vary. Usually the lawyers and defendant are not far from the courtroom so can be there a short time after being summoned by the court.

If everyone's hanging out in the courthouse and the judge isn't tied up in another hearing it would be quick. If people have to walk or drive back to the courthouse, and if the judge is conducting another hearing or handling a matter in chambers (aka the judge's office), it could be longer.

Usually judges try not to unduly inconvenience the jurors after their verdict is in, and will try to minimize the waiting time.

ETA: I think JB's wearing a probably expensive high quality hairpiece that he bought a few years ago, and since then his own hair has started going grey, hence the clear line of difference. Too bad about the TV money faucet being turned off, JB. Might be hard to find the money to update the hairpiece.

Edited December 8, 2021 by Jeeves

[mittsigirl]

3 hours ago, iwantcookies said:

Of course thirsty Hilaria was there 🙄. 

I stopped watching the show when 19 and Counting was cancelled, so all I have done to keep up is to read the wonderful snark on here. I have no idea about this Hilaria chick, but she sure does sound like a prize from the way everyone talks about her. Wondering what Michelle thinks of her?

[emmawoodhouse]

Just now, mittsigirl said:

I stopped watching the show when 19 and Counting was cancelled, so all I have done to keep up is to read the wonderful snark on here. I have no idea about this Hilaria chick, but she sure does sound like a prize from the way everyone talks about her. Wondering what Michelle thinks of her?

Meech probably loves her. After all, Hilaria is nothing if not a Duggar sycophant.

[libgirl2]

2 minutes ago, mittsigirl said:

I stopped watching the show when 19 and Counting was cancelled, so all I have done to keep up is to read the wonderful snark on here. I have no idea about this Hilaria chick, but she sure does sound like a prize from the way everyone talks about her. Wondering what Michelle thinks of her?

Hilaria and Jill R. could give each other a run for their money.  Only difference, Hilaria doesn't wear garish make up!

[mittsigirl]

2 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

Yes. I didn't mean to imply that it was -- In fact, I was trying to stress the opposite! But I can see that I may not have succeeded! 

I'm really sorry that I asked that question.

[Churchhoney]

2 minutes ago, mittsigirl said:

I'm really sorry that I asked that question.

I don't think you should ever be sorry you asked a question! ...Or that you tried to answer one! ......

 

[mittsigirl]

1 minute ago, Churchhoney said:

I don't think you should ever be sorry you asked a question! ...Or that you tried to answer one! ......

 

I'm just that person who has to know every single detail, about every little thing!!

I am just happy that everyone who answered my question was kind:)

[Churchhoney]

14 minutes ago, Jeeves said:

 

ETA: I think JB's wearing a probably expensive high quality hairpiece that he bought a few years ago, and since then his own hair has started going grey, hence the clear line of difference. Too bad about the TV money faucet being turned off, JB. Might be hard to find the money to update the hairpiece.

I think he might find the cash. Luckily, even though he has 20 kids, he'll never have to make a tuition payment! 

[Fosca]

15 minutes ago, Jeeves said:

ETA: I think JB's wearing a probably expensive high quality hairpiece that he bought a few years ago, and since then his own hair has started going grey, hence the clear line of difference. Too bad about the TV money faucet being turned off, JB. Might be hard to find the money to update the hairpiece.

It looks like there's a ridge from side to side in the back where the black hair meets the graying hair--that sure looks like a hairpiece to me.  How the mighty have balded!

[Nysha]

 

24 minutes ago, Jynnan tonnix said:

I think that male pattern baldness runs through the female side of the family anyway, so even if he is going bald (which, it sure appears as though he is, unless his gray is coming in like none I have ever seen before), he doesn't have to take any blame for it running through his offspring. 

Mostly, though, I found myself thinking that I've never noticed before that his profile was so wonky...his nose is strangely flattened, and he looks to have a bit of an underbite. Like there is some bulldog mixed in there or something.

Baldness can be genetically passed by both parents. 

14 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

Hilaria and Jill R. could give each other a run for their money.  Only difference, Hilaria doesn't wear garish make up!

Plus, Hilaria feeds her children and doesn't dress them in Goodwill rejects.

ETA: My dollar store sells black hair dye for men that is supposed to color the grey. JB could cheaply dye his hair to match his wig. 

Edited December 8, 2021 by Nysha

[mittsigirl]

2 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

I wonder if they have framed forgiveness as I have (the first time I heard it expressed this way was on Oprah and it resonated): Forgiveness is letting go of the hope that the past would have been different.

For me, forgiveness is not at all about the other person, the one who hurt you. It's something you give yourself. The peace with never forgetting, never condoning, but accepting that it happened, it wasn't your fault, and releasing it.

I love this so much, makes so much sense, thanks for posting it:)

[Future Cat Lady]

2 minutes ago, Nysha said:

 

Baldness can be genetically passed by both parents. 

Plus, Hilaria feeds her children and doesn't dress them in Goodwill rejects.

To Jill, Hilaria is slut who wears pants. However, if Hilaria could be useful to Jill, she wouldn’t mind.

[mittsigirl]

2 hours ago, absnow54 said:

Apparently the jury has already started deliberating, but The Sun updates are way behind. 

Thanks for that info! Now I can sneak away from here and go make my cookie dough for the dogs. Have you ever looked into the eyes of a St. Bernard, wondering where her cookies are?! Even when she is happy, she still looks so darn sad!

[iwantcookies]

https://www.nwahomepage.com/josh-duggar-trial/josh-duggar-trial-day-6-jury-deliberations-underway-for-duggars-child-porn-charges/

[irisheyes]

I hope Josh is waiting with a constant feeling of wanting to vomit. 

[Tikichick]

49 minutes ago, crazy8s said:

or maybe Josie is learning to be the family barber.

That would actually probably be interesting content to view -- if the parents weren't such repugnant wastes of flesh.  

[Sile]

1 hour ago, absnow54 said:

Sentencing won't be until early next year, but he'll probably get his bail revoked and will be held in custody until sentencing.

I really hope he doesn't get to remain free on bond after pleading for just one more Christmas with his kids.

Just going from what I've read, it seems this judge doesn't have much use for him or the defense so hopefully it will be go directly go jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200.  Hope he came prepared with a fresh pair of undies and a toothbrush!

[iwantcookies]

55 minutes ago, Westiepeach said:

Boob's hairpiece?

Did his breath stink today? Lol 

That is definitely a hair piece

[Tikichick]

1 minute ago, Sile said:

I really hope he doesn't get to remain free on bond after pleading for just one more Christmas with his kids.

Just going from what I've read, it seems this judge doesn't have much use for him or the defense so hopefully it will be go directly go jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200.  Hope he came prepared with a fresh pair of undies and a toothbrush!

I'd be surprised to see a judge prepared to face the outcry for allowing a felon convicted of CSAM the opportunity to "spend just one more Christmas with his children."

[Lady Jane]

1 minute ago, Tikichick said:

I'd be surprised to see a judge prepared to face the outcry for allowing a felon convicted of CSAM the opportunity to "spend just one more Christmas with his children."

 

2 minutes ago, Sile said:

I really hope he doesn't get to remain free on bond after pleading for just one more Christmas with his kids.

Just going from what I've read, it seems this judge doesn't have much use for him or the defense so hopefully it will be go directly go jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200.  Hope he came prepared with a fresh pair of undies and a toothbrush!

I don't believe for one second clean undies and a toothbrush are part of Josh's regular life.

I don't think even with an ankle monitor a judge would allow a convicted CSAM offender who has access to numerous private planes and a family of pilots. His risk of flight is exponentially higher than when he was awaiting trial--and I'm almost positive the judge knows that his family would help him run.

 

[SJC]

2 hours ago, RedDelicious said:

This is one of those times I really wish cigarettes didn't kill you, because I'd have a full ashtray on my desk.

(I don't smoke!)

Same here !!!

[Jeanne222]

Wonder where the Dugger siblings are waiting this one out?

[mynextmistake]

The Sun is speculating that a verdict will be returned today due to Anna just being seen at the courthouse. I have no idea if that is reliable information. 

If the jury is back this fast, it’s almost certainly a guilty verdict. 

[GeeGolly]

25 minutes ago, Sile said:

I really hope he doesn't get to remain free on bond after pleading for just one more Christmas with his kids.

Just going from what I've read, it seems this judge doesn't have much use for him or the defense so hopefully it will be go directly go jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200.  Hope he came prepared with a fresh pair of undies and a toothbrush!

One of the things I learned when I started working in the inner city is, convicts wear jail/prison issued undies. And apparently they have only two sizes - extra large and large. The part I'm unsure of is - I was told all the undies go in the wash and you get back what you get back. No names or cells assigned to the undies. I couldn't bring myself to ask if it was true, because I didn't want to know if the answer was yes.

[merylinkid]

Update from KNWA in Fayetteville:

UPDATE 3:23 p.m.: Shortly after 2:20 p.m. the jury asked to listen to the April 2021 interview of Duggar again. The interview was played for the jury in the courtroom. All three parts of the interview were conducted during the search warrant execution by Homeland Security Investigation agents at Wholesale Motorcars.

The jury also requested a calendar from May 2019 to the present. The request was denied by the judge due to the deliberation only being allowed over evidence submitted during the trial.

 

Jury taking this seriously.    Boy I hope we get a verdict today.

[RedDelicious]

7 minutes ago, merylinkid said:

The jury also requested a calendar from May 2019 to the present. The request was denied by the judge due to the deliberation only being allowed over evidence submitted during the trial.

What do you think the calendar request was about? Because couldn't they have also requested the timeline put together by the prosecution since that was presented in court?

[Annb67]

8 minutes ago, merylinkid said:

Update from KNWA in Fayetteville:

UPDATE 3:23 p.m.: Shortly after 2:20 p.m. the jury asked to listen to the April 2021 interview of Duggar again. The interview was played for the jury in the courtroom. All three parts of the interview were conducted during the search warrant execution by Homeland Security Investigation agents at Wholesale Motorcars.

The jury also requested a calendar from May 2019 to the present. The request was denied by the judge due to the deliberation only being allowed over evidence submitted during the trial.

 

Jury taking this seriously.    Boy I hope we get a verdict today.

Was this the interview where he asked “is this about child porn? And/or I’m not saying I’m not guilty”

[GeeGolly]

7 minutes ago, RedDelicious said:

What do you think the calendar request was about? Because couldn't they have also requested the timeline put together by the prosecution since that was presented in court?

Maybe they wanted to know the actual days of the week?

Edited December 8, 2021 by GeeGolly

[mimionthebeach]

I need this to resolve asap. It's impairing my ability to focus on anything else. It's almost wine o'clock here, so that might help. 

[SJC]

Just now, mimionthebeach said:

It's almost wine o'clock here

Please meet me in the prayer closet. You bring wine & I'll bring cheese.  lol

[Ohiopirate02]

Just now, SJC said:

Please meet me in the prayer closet. You bring wine & I'll bring cheese.  lol

I can bring the moonshine pickles.

[Trillium]

Some people are visual, they probably thought if they had a blank calendar to write it out that would be easier, but they’ll make do. They’ll have writing instruments (or they should, both juries I say on we had pens and paper and a white board) I feel like they just want to lay it all out. There might be on or two that need to “see” it before they can say, yep it was him. 

Edited December 8, 2021 by Trillium

[Snow Fairy]

11pm here, I want to know before going to bed

[mittsigirl]

[Snow Fairy]

11 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Maybe they wanted to know the actual days of the week?

I think the same. Maybe they want to know if it was weekend, and someone else could I don't know, break in the car lot?

[galaxygirl76]

I'm about to work out so if anything exciting happens the next 40 minutes, that's why lol

[emmawoodhouse]

Just had confirmation from an attorney who has followed the paper trail on this case that CPS did indeed attempt to interview the kids, but both Smuganna declined. They basically said it was because they didn't trust the agency. 

eta The attorney went on to say that if Smuggar is convicted, Anna has no choice. CPS will interview the kids.

Edited December 8, 2021 by emmawoodhouse

[CandyCaneTree]

1 hour ago, Westiepeach said:

Boob's hairpiece?

He couldn't even get a color matching one. Well I  guess you really don't have a choice if you buy used and save the difference. 

[Natalie68]

3 minutes ago, CandyCaneTree said:

He couldn't even get a color matching one. Well I  guess you really don't have a choice if you buy used and save the difference. 

Wishing for a very brisk wind...

COME ON JURY!!!!!

[libgirl2]

4 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said:

Just had confirmation from an attorney who has followed the paper trail on this case that CPS did indeed attempt to interview the kids, but both Smuganna declined. They basically said it was because they didn't trust the agency. 

eta The attorney went on to say that if Smuggar is convicted, Anna has no choice. CPS will interview the kids.

Another reason to find him guilty. 

[3 is enough]

I would bet that being outed about his hairpiece would bug Jim Bob more than Smuggar being convicted.

[mimionthebeach]

1 minute ago, CandyCaneTree said:

He couldn't even get a color matching one. Well I  guess you really don't have a choice if you buy used and save the difference. 

He'd have to keep replacing them as his own hair will be getting more salt than pepper fairly steadily. The used ones are probably not coming available quickly enough. 

It's likely getting greyer by the day this week.  

[libgirl2]

5 minutes ago, CandyCaneTree said:

He couldn't even get a color matching one. Well I  guess you really don't have a choice if you buy used and save the difference. 

Years ago at work, we had a patron come in who was so obviously wearing a woman's badly made wig that he had cut to fit his head. It looked God awful. I saw him about a week later with his wife and a restaurant. Still the same ugly wig, but his wife was quite attractive and put together. 

[Churchhoney]

2 minutes ago, CandyCaneTree said:

He couldn't even get a color matching one. Well I  guess you really don't have a choice if you buy used and save the difference. 

Or he brought a pricey wig with youngish color before the whole Josh thing started to unravel. And since the Homeland Security raid, his natural mop has gone gray at a fast clip. 

Does comb-in dye come in gray? 😁

[3 is enough]

3 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

Wishing for a very brisk wind...

COME ON JURY!!!!!

I guess that explains the Aqua Net addiction.