Captain Marvel (2019)

[Trini]

8 hours ago, BooBear said:

5. I am getting sick of this woman centric marketing baloney. Black Widow, Princess Leia, and Wilma Deering called and want their title(s) back.

I've seen some of the marketing (trailers, posters), but I haven't really been following this movie. So I'd like to know more about how the marketing is "woman centric" and why it's "baloney", if you don't mind clarifying.

Edited February 21, 2019 by Trini

[BooBear]

2 minutes ago, Trini said:

I've seen some of the marketing (trailers, posters), but I haven't really been following this movie. So I'd like to more about how the marketing is "woman centric" and why it's "baloney", if you don't mind clarifying.

Why do I feel you aren't serious? Hmnnnn

[Trini]

I was curious about your perspective. But you don't have to explain if you don't want to, of course.

[tennisgurl]

3 hours ago, Cranberry said:

Speaking of weird cosmic comics nobody thought would make a good movie, you ever hear of this one called Guardians of the Galaxy?

And dont forget about that boring and lame Thor: Ragnarok that made no money, and did terribly with critics and audiences! Oh, hold on... 😉 

All these yahoos losing their shit over Carol Danvers are going to explode if they ever find out about Kamala Khan!

Edited February 21, 2019 by tennisgurl

[JessePinkman]

3 hours ago, Trini said:

I've seen some of the marketing (trailers, posters), but I haven't really been following this movie. So I'd like to more about how the marketing is "woman centric" and why it's "baloney", if you don't mind clarifying.

Personally the trailer turning "her" into "hero" is HIGHLY offensive to me. What about HEro, huh? Is "he" now secondary to "HER"??? This is why boys wear dresses and girls play sports now!

Just...kidding. If that wasn't obvious.

[tennisgurl]

2 hours ago, JessePinkman said:

This is why boys wear dresses and girls play sports now!

Its not right for a woman to superhero! Soon she`ll be getting ideas...thinking...

Edited February 21, 2019 by tennisgurl

[Trini]

I mean, if a woman is the center of a movie, it makes sense that at least some of the marketing would be "woman centric". And that would also apply if at least half of your potential audience/ticket buyers are women, right?

[Gah! Why can I never see my typos until they're quoted??]

[Cranberry]

"Want to see" percentage on Rotten Tomatoes is down to 57% (from above 80%) thanks to a targeted campaign by people who want the movie to fail (it's largely people -- or "people" -- just clicking the "Not Interested" button and not writing reviews). I cannot understand hating a movie this much. There are tons of movies that aren't for me and that I have no desire to see, but I can't imagine trying to artificially tank their audience rating. It's meaningless anyway; nobody is basing their decision of whether or not to see the movie on that.

And no, Brie Larson has never said that white men shouldn't see the film or that it wasn't for them (here is her actual quote), so it's a ridiculous overreaction anyway.

[Morrigan2575]

1 hour ago, Cranberry said:

And no, Brie Larson has never said that white men shouldn't see the film or that it wasn't for them (here is her actual quote), so it's a ridiculous overreaction anyway.

Yep that spurred about 100 YouTube videos claiming Brie Larson is a SJW! Larson hates White Men! I even saw one that saw Lawson wants to kill all white males!

I'm not surprised by the Rotten Tomato thing, they did the same for Black Panther and The Force Awkens had a similar campaign because a black man touched a light saber (I guess Mace Windu gets a pass).

The irony is, it makes me WANT to see the movie now. Simply because the whining and tears when it succeeds will be epic.

[Dee]

1 hour ago, Cranberry said:

I cannot understand hating a movie this much.

Wait until Kamala Khan, Miles Morales. Riri Williams & Amadeus Cho debut in the MCU.

[Lugal]

On 2/20/2019 at 2:15 AM, Anduin said:

As a straight white male, I've been pandered to my whole life. It's nice, I admit. But I'm cool with other people having their turn. For that matter, I'm completely happy with heroes & heroines that don't look like me. I'm not a narcissist. Let them whine all they want, as long as they aren't in the ticket queue ahead of me.

Pretty much my thoughts on it.  What it comes down to is: it looks like a cool, fun movie, and I'm going to see it.

23 hours ago, SimoneS said:

Misogynistic racist assholes. Don't forget they tried the same bullshit with Black Panther.

It was just as irritating then.  Now who are the special snowflakes who need their safe spaces?

[Cranberry]

Captain Marvel: why sexist attempts at sabotage will fail

Captain Marvel Presales on Track to Beat Aquaman, Almost All Previous MCU Films

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Fandango announced Thursday that the latest Marvel Studios release — starring Brie Larson in the title role — is on pace to top December's superhero hit Aquaman, along with Warner Bros.' other major DCEU hit, Wonder Woman, at the same point in their respective presale timetables.

What's perhaps more interesting, though, is that Captain Marvel isn't just topping its competition over at Warner Bros. It's topping just about every previous Marvel Cinematic Universe release as well. If the sales pace holds, the film will rank third on the MCU list in terms of presale tickets from Fandango, behind only Black Panther and Avengers: Infinity War. If it holds this pace, the film will finish second in Fandango presales among superhero origin story movies, behind only Black Panther. 

[Morrigan2575]

Amazing. 

[Dee]

Chris Evans did say Captain Marvel would do significant numbers...

[starri]

I bought my tickets.  Even sprang for IMAX, which my husband is going to loathe.

[Matt K]

This'll be the first movie I'll have seen in theaters since Infinity War (my son was born right after).  I'm really looking forward to this.  When we get a sequel I'd love to see Monica Rambeau and/or Kamala Khan. 

[Shannon L.]

We bought our Dolby Theater (leather reclining seats, state of the art sound/picture quality) tickets the day they went on sale.  I will continue to do so for every Marvel movie until I become consistently disappointed in them.  That hasn't happened yet (in fact, there are only about 3 that I don't care if I ever see again). 

[xaxat]

On 2/21/2019 at 9:42 AM, Cranberry said:

"Want to see" percentage on Rotten Tomatoes is down to 57% (from above 80%) thanks to a targeted campaign by people who want the movie to fail (it's largely people -- or "people" -- just clicking the "Not Interested" button and not writing reviews). I cannot understand hating a movie this much. There are tons of movies that aren't for me and that I have no desire to see, but I can't imagine trying to artificially tank their audience rating. It's meaningless anyway; nobody is basing their decision of whether or not to see the movie on that.

And no, Brie Larson has never said that white men shouldn't see the film or that it wasn't for them (here is her actual quote), so it's a ridiculous overreaction anyway.

The stats site 538 has done a lot of work examining how sexism affects aggregation sites. The men who vote on those sites don't like movies about women. Their opinion is over represented on those sites and it results in situations like this,

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But this “Ghostbusters” thing? It lays bare so, so much of what we’re investigating when it comes to the provenance and reliability of internet ratings.1 Namely, they’re inconsistent, easily manipulated and probably not worth half the stock we put in them.2 Here are a few stats I collected early Thursday for the new “Ghostbusters” movie:

IMDb average user rating: 4.1 out of 10, of 12,921 reviewers

IMDb average user rating among men: 3.6 out of 10, of 7,547 reviewers

IMDb average user rating among women: 7.7 out of 10, of 1,564 reviewers

The movie isn’t even out in theaters as I’m writing this, but over 12,000 people have made their judgment. Male reviewers outnumber female reviewers nearly 5 to 1 and rate “Ghostbusters” 4 points lower, on average.

[BetterButter]

Marvel Studios’ Captain Marvel - Goose the Cat LIVE!

[PepSinger]

On 2/20/2019 at 3:28 PM, BooBear said:

5. I am getting sick of this woman centric marketing baloney. Black Widow, Princess Leia, and Wilma Deering called and want their title(s) back.

Huh??? Captain Marvel is the first MCU movie to have a woman as the lead. It would be dumb as hell if they didn’t market the crap out of that.

[Dandesun]

Goose's live feed is amazing. The music really make it for me. Goose curls up in cat bed. ::dramatic music swells::

I feel that this is what plays in my cats' heads all the time. It would explain so much.

As far as Carol's character and whether or not she's 'worthy' because of whatever bullshit reasons... please. Marvel sold off their top tier characters and this is what they were left with. And the MCU has done a pretty damn good job creating a compelling universe with characters whose comics weren't the top sellers. Very few people gave two shits about Iron Man before 2008. As for Carol being 'cosmic' -- take that up with Chris Claremont who felt there was no reason a woman character couldn't be super powerful. Granted, he really went there with Phoenix but when that ended up with star-eating and the death of a planet of asparagus people and the then-editor saying she really needed to pay for that... well, Claremont to Carol to that level next. Not that she's an outlier, he had zero problem making his women characters uber powerful but all you have to do is google Binary Carol Danvers and you can see what I'm talking about. Carol being cosmic is no more a problem than Thor or any of the Guardians.

Carol will probably get a bump in comics for a bit (Civil War II did hurt her in the comics but that was a shitty storyline) and I can only hope that bringing her into the MCU kicks the door open for Monica Rambeau and Kamala Khan. And a host of others.

[Dee]

I hope DeWanda gets to play Monica in any Captain Marvel sequels. She's gorgeous & a great actress.

[Bruinsfan]

Nicole Beharie is my dream casting for that role, her no-nonsense vibe on Sleepy Hollow is very close to my take on Monica's personality.

[Dee]

Nicole Beharie is a great choice too! I've been waiting for her to score a big win in the aftermath of the Sleepy Hollow debacle.

[scarynikki12]

On 2/22/2019 at 7:13 AM, Matt K said:

When we get a sequel I'd love to see Monica Rambeau and/or Kamala Khan. 

Kamala is the only Marvel character I subscribe to at my comic store.  I love her so much and mine will be the loudest cheer if she gets one of the credit scenes.  I'll be happy if they do a reference in the movie ala Homecoming with Miles' uncle but a credit scene would be outstanding. 

On 2/22/2019 at 5:38 PM, Dandesun said:

Goose's live feed is amazing. The music really make it for me. Goose curls up in cat bed. ::dramatic music swells::

I feel that this is what plays in my cats' heads all the time. It would explain so much.

Cats lead wonderfully dramatic lives.  They don't merely get hungry, thirsty, sleepy, or affectionate, nope.  They are STARVING, DEHYDRATED, EXHAUSTED, and ENAMORED!  It only makes sense that they have appropriately dramatic music to go along with the soap opera that is their lives.  And Goose is adorable.

[Cranberry]

On 2/22/2019 at 7:38 PM, Dandesun said:

Carol will probably get a bump in comics for a bit (Civil War II did hurt her in the comics but that was a shitty storyline) and I can only hope that bringing her into the MCU kicks the door open for Monica Rambeau and Kamala Khan. And a host of others.

‘Captain Marvel’ Star Brie Larson Says Kamala Khan Is the Future

“I feel like she’s the future,” Larson told ComicBook.com. “So when I’ve been asked about the future of the MCU, or the future of the Captain Marvel series, I want to be with her.”

Larson previously remarked her dream is to include Ms. Marvel in a sequel. “That’s the goal,” Larson said.

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The Larson-led Captain Marvel is instead the “first step towards introducing [Khan’s] hero,” which Feige said “is how you begin to bring her about at some point.”

Feige said last May plans for Khan are “definitely sort of in the works,” revealing the Disney-owned studio is eyeing plans for the character sometime after Danvers — who first appears in her solo film before joining Earth’s mightiest heroes in April’s Avengers: Endgame — is established.

[Cranberry]

Captain Marvel’s ratings attacked by trolls, Rotten Tomatoes audience score falls to 40%

It's 34% right now. 33,534 "reviews" for a movie that's not even out (for comparison, the new Lego movie -- which is out -- has 25,226; last weekend's top-grossing movie, Alita: Battle Angel, has 15,000; and April's Avengers: Endgame has 9,726). It seems pretty obvious that these are fake accounts. It's sad that, whatever their twisted reasoning, people feel the need to resort to this nonsense.

[Dee]

19 hours ago, Cranberry said:

‘Captain Marvel’ Star Brie Larson Says Kamala Khan Is the Future

“I feel like she’s the future,” Larson told ComicBook.com. “So when I’ve been asked about the future of the MCU, or the future of the Captain Marvel series, I want to be with her.”

Larson previously remarked her dream is to include Ms. Marvel in a sequel. “That’s the goal,” Larson said.

I adore Brie. I'm so glad that she's making the most of this major opportunity.

[IWantCandy71]

I have no doubt this movie will make tons of money. I also have no doubt, based on the trailer, that I won't be missing anything by not watching it. Yes, it's wrong to judge a movie just on the trailer, but I'm not judging it on that alone. I'm also judging it on how bad every single Marvel or DC movie has been (that I have seen-admittedly, I haven't seen them all, but that's because I don't intentionally watch something I have no interest in, unless I want to see a particular character or actor) since the whole weird and disturbing obsession/trend with these movies started.

They just aren't good movies, as a whole, although some do have little moments here and there, and some characters here and there, that are entertaining. Josh Brolin, Tom Hiddleston, Mark Ruffalo-all wonderful actors.  But I don't know that it can be said, that a great villain (these movies have no truly interesting heroes) or a great performance from an actor, makes a movie worth my time and money.

I really hope I live to see the end of this trend at the box office. And as much as I love James McAvoy's acting, and I will probably drag myself to go see Dark Phoenix(or maybe I won't), I am so sick of this genre. 

[Anduin]

2 minutes ago, IWantCandy71 said:

I really hope I live to see the end of this trend at the box office.

Once this trend ends, there will be another one to take its place. And another one after that. You probably won't like them either. Why? The MCU is currently the biggest series in the world. Up and comers will see what it did to earn that place, will learn from that.

[Kromm]

On 11/11/2017 at 7:52 PM, JustaPerson said:

Since the film will take place in the early 90s and Nick Fury will be there, will they CGI Samuel L. Jackson's face a bit to make him look younger? Or will another actor be cast to play younger Nick Fury? Or will they just use Samuel L. Jackson as is?

Posting in 2019. Are you impressed with how they CGIed Sam?  I know I am. 

[Kromm]

9 minutes ago, IWantCandy71 said:

I have no doubt this movie will make tons of money. I also have no doubt, based on the trailer, that I won't be missing anything by not watching it. Yes, it's wrong to judge a movie just on the trailer, but I'm not judging it on that alone. I'm also judging it on how bad every single Marvel or DC movie has been (that I have seen-admittedly, I haven't seen them all, but that's because I don't intentionally watch something I have no interest in, unless I want to see a particular character or actor) since the whole weird and disturbing obsession/trend with these movies started.

They just aren't good movies, as a whole, although some do have little moments here and there, and some characters here and there, that are entertaining. Josh Brolin, Tom Hiddleston, Mark Ruffalo-all wonderful actors.  But I don't know that it can be said, that a great villain (these movies have no truly interesting heroes) or a great performance from an actor, makes a movie worth my time and money.

I really hope I live to see the end of this trend at the box office. And as much as I love James McAvoy's acting, and I will probably drag myself to go see Dark Phoenix(or maybe I won't), I am so sick of this genre. 

They're popcorn films. Don't compare them to artistic dramas, compare them to other current action and franchise films. For example... aren't they FAR better than the ridiculous Fast & Furious movies?  I think so. Apples to Apples. 

[IWantCandy71]

1 minute ago, Anduin said:

Once this trend ends, there will be another one to take its place. And another one after that. You probably won't like them either. Why? The MCU is currently the biggest series in the world. Up and comers will see what it did to earn that place, will learn from that.

Of couse there will be another trend. Pretty rude to attack me and say I won't like it, just because you don't like  my opinion and I'm not falling at the altar of Marvel or DC. I never have. I never will. 

At this point, I'll welcome any trend that doesn't have a 100 million dollar budget whose main focus is "quips" and blowing things up. And I say that as someone who loves action adventure movies, as long as they have a plot and good acting and heroes who don't give me migraines. In other words, the opposite of these movies. I got tired of them after the first two, and I have tried since then to give some of them a chance. I've sat through some if I liked the actors, but I've also turned some off out of boredom. 

No, I don't like them, as a whole, and my opinion that they are not well done, is just as valid as anyone who says the opposite.

1 minute ago, Kromm said:

They're popcorn films. Don't compare them to artistic dramas, compare them to other current action and franchise films. For example... aren't they FAR better than the ridiculous Fast & Furious movies?  I think so. Apples to Apples. 

True, but even as popcorn films.....they are a big "eh" for me. 

[Kromm]

5 hours ago, Cranberry said:

Captain Marvel’s ratings attacked by trolls, Rotten Tomatoes audience score falls to 40%

It's 34% right now. 33,534 "reviews" for a movie that's not even out (for comparison, the new Lego movie -- which is out -- has 25,226; last weekend's top-grossing movie, Alita: Battle Angel, has 15,000; and April's Avengers: Endgame has 9,726). It seems pretty obvious that these are fake accounts. It's sad that, whatever their twisted reasoning, people feel the need to resort to this nonsense.

Are we shocked sexism and privilege are this toxic? 

[Kromm]

On 2/21/2019 at 11:37 AM, Dee said:

Wait until Kamala Khan, Miles Morales. Riri Williams & Amadeus Cho debut in the MCU.

Well, I'm looking forward to TWO of those (the first two). Shitty badly thought out comic book characters translate the same way. Khan and Morales were both thought out and executed wonderfully. The other two? Not so much. 

[Kromm]

On 2/20/2019 at 9:52 PM, JessePinkman said:

Personally the trailer turning "her" into "hero" is HIGHLY offensive to me. What about HEro, huh? Is "he" now secondary to "HER"??? This is why boys wear dresses and girls play sports now!

Just...kidding. If that wasn't obvious.

And yet that is PRECISELY, almost word for word, how most of the Troll arguments go. Butthurt Snowflake "what about representing me" bullsht, where faux outrage is invented and exploited to sht stir. 

[Bruinsfan]

I thought I was the only person who didn't care for Amadeus Cho!

[Anduin]

1 hour ago, IWantCandy71 said:

Of couse there will be another trend. Pretty rude to attack me and say I won't like it, just because you don't like  my opinion and I'm not falling at the altar of Marvel or DC. I never have. I never will. 

At this point, I'll welcome any trend that doesn't have a 100 million dollar budget whose main focus is "quips" and blowing things up. And I say that as someone who loves action adventure movies, as long as they have a plot and good acting and heroes who don't give me migraines. In other words, the opposite of these movies. I got tired of them after the first two, and I have tried since then to give some of them a chance. I've sat through some if I liked the actors, but I've also turned some off out of boredom. 

No, I don't like them, as a whole, and my opinion that they are not well done, is just as valid as anyone who says the opposite.

True, but even as popcorn films.....they are a big "eh" for me. 

No, I'm saying you won't like the next trend, because it will draw from the current trend. If you don't like the current one, you won'tlike the next one.

[Raja]

3 minutes ago, Anduin said:

No, I'm saying you won't like the next trend, because it will draw from the current trend. If you don't like the current one, you won'tlike the next one.

And the next trend is likely to be  aimed more towards universal audiences rather than western democracies audiences with some global crossover. Thus more action and flashier colors than the current US based comic inspired movies which touch on western democratic political controversies very lightly between the super powered set piece scenes.

[IWantCandy71]

1 hour ago, Anduin said:

No, I'm saying you won't like the next trend, because it will draw from the current trend. If you don't like the current one, you won'tlike the next one.

Not necessarily. Trends can stray pretty far away from one another. Decades ago, war movies were the thing. Then westerns were the  biggest thing, then it was science fiction, and then crime dramas. Then medical dramas(on television, anyway, if not movies). While each may have an element in common with another, there isn't enough from point A to point B in each one, to say they draw off of each other. I don't think Dr. Who has a thing in common with Quincy, and Ms.Marple had nothing in common with Captain Kirk. Bottom line, a trend will go on as long as it makes money, or as long as people are interested in making the movies. Whether we like that particular trend or not.

As far as the upthread conversation about people downvoting this or any other movie, I personally give little credence to any online voting of any movie. I haven't myself voted on one for over ten years, because I realized that very thing: that haters will downvote out of spite. But the opposite is also true: fanboys( I hate that word but it fits in this instance) will upvote a movie they haven't even seen. Which is why the rating of a movie shouldn't matter. If I want to see something, I watch it, and if I like it, I say so, and if I hate it, I say that, too.  But I don't let a most likely manipulated rating system deter me, either way. I don't think anyone should.

[Andrew Wiggin]

8 hours ago, Cranberry said:

Captain Marvel’s ratings attacked by trolls, Rotten Tomatoes audience score falls to 40%

It's 34% right now. 33,534 "reviews" for a movie that's not even out (for comparison, the new Lego movie -- which is out -- has 25,226; last weekend's top-grossing movie, Alita: Battle Angel, has 15,000; and April's Avengers: Endgame has 9,726). It seems pretty obvious that these are fake accounts. It's sad that, whatever their twisted reasoning, people feel the need to resort to this nonsense.

Its not a Reviewscore its a Want to see Score.

And it will go away then the Film starts in the Theater.

[Morrigan2575]

4 hours ago, Andrew Wiggin said:

Its not a Reviewscore its a Want to see Score.

And it will go away then the Film starts in the Theater.

True but, the whole idea of a campaign to lower the score of a movie is ridiculous and yet this is the 3rd movie i can recall being target.  I just want to scream at those fans to "get a life!" (in my best Shatner voice)

[Sakura12]

Rotten Tomatoes finally changed their site were users can't leave a review or rate a movie before its theatrical release. 

https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/making-some-changes/

I still don't understand who has the time to review a movie they haven't seen. When I don't like a movie or actor I don't waste my time thinking about them. 

I don't think Captain Marvel will be the best one ever,  but I won't know unless i see it. I thought Ant-Man looked dumb and I ended up loving that one. 

[Smad]

43 minutes ago, Sakura12 said:

Rotten Tomatoes finally changed their site were users can't leave a review or rate a movie before its theatrical release.

Why does everyone keep insisting on calling them reviews? Has anyone actually read them? Those weren't reviews, it was just people saying 'I want to see this movie' and 'I don't want to see this movie'. There wasn't even trolling going on. That RT took down the % system right when CM kept sinking (it got down to 27%) is surely just a coincidence. Not. So much for 'freedom of speech', figuratively speaking.

All these false narratives people are getting up in arms about is amazing. These so called reviews that don't exist. Trolling. 'Misinterpreting' what Larson said. And so on.

Apparently people have no problem with Larson and Disney doing a little money laundering via #gofundme campaigns. False narratives invented in the face of resistance due to social politics push in their ad campaigns and interviews. Theaters not allowing previously bought CM tickets to be refunded whereas they allow it for every other movie. And the robbing of freedom of speech as we see now on RT. That's all fine it seems.😩

[Spartan Girl]

1 hour ago, Sakura12 said:

Rotten Tomatoes finally changed their site were users can't leave a review or rate a movie before its theatrical release. 

https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/making-some-changes/

I still don't understand who has the time to review a movie they haven't seen.

People that don't have lives and just want to bitch about everything.

And good for RT.  I'm sick of these assholes trashing movies that haven't even come out yet.

[Cranberry]

I liked what Uproxx had to say about it.

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Captain Marvel doesn’t come out until next month, but something as inconsequential as “seeing it” hasn’t stopped sexist trolls from sabotaging the movie’s audience score on Rotten Tomatoes. To combat the unwanted attention, which usually involves whiny dudes complaining about social justice warriors and star Brie Larson’s “sexist and racist attitudes” against straight white males, the review-aggregation website has made some major changes. First and foremost, no user reviews until the movie is out in theaters (which is what the policy should have been all along, but, uh, progress!)

I agree. I like the "Want to See" button; I click it so I have a list of all the movies I... want to see. But I'm uninterested in so many movies that a "Not Interested" button never made sense to me -- I don't need a personal list of 95% of movies out there, thanks!

Also, a reminder of what Free Speech is.

'Captain Marvel' Soaring Toward Possible $150 Million Domestic Opening

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Advance ticket sales, while not always a clear barometer of eventual performance, are a useful indicator when viewed in the larger context of marketing impact, online buzz, and comparisons to similar films and release windows. In these regards, all signs point to another big win for Marvel when Captain Marvel storms multiplexes on March 8th in just over a week.

Captain Marvel has passed all other MCU films in advance ticket sales except Avengers: Infinity War and Black Panther, as well as passing recent DCEU blockbusters Wonder Woman and Aquaman, according to Fandango and Atom Tickets. Meanwhile, audience awareness -- especially unaided awareness -- is massive, while the trailers and ads are racking up views and positive reactions online.

I have my tickets for the first possible show here -- early evening on Thursday the 7th. I'm excited!

[IWantCandy71]

21 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

People that don't have lives.

But the same thing can be said about someone taking the time to whine about strangers down voting a movie. It's just a movie. If you want to watch it, watch it. If you love it and others hate it, so what ? Not everyone is going to have the same taste. And the opinion that a  movie is bad is just as valid as one that it is good, because of personal tastes and preferences.

I have the strangest feeling that if the movie were upvoted and had a 100% *thiswillbethebestmovieever* rating, no one would be complaining.

This kind of thing happens on any and every site where a movie can be voted on. People go and vote before the movie is released. People are making it about gender without proof.

Will Ferrell is a white man and his movies are almost always down voted before they ever come out. Yes, many of them, AFTER they've come out, and they've been watched, deserved it. But the point is....any old body can come along and say "this sucks" without having watched it.

But here's the thing: anyone that hates the movie or the idea of the movie or who hates Marvel, can come along and downvote it after it's released. So, was anything really accomplished by all this drama?

NOPE.  I mean, I won't be watching it...but I won't go and vote on it either way, because I realized a long time ago that online scores usually are nowhere near accurate in my eyes.

Fanbase bias exists on both sides of the fence. I'll never believe fans don't upvote movies way before they are released, and that is just as bad.

But there is such a thing as people in early screening audiences, and some of those votes-both up and down-could be from that ? IDK.

I just think all this fuss over the score of a movie is ridiculous. It can be the worst movie in the world in the eyes of a lot of people, but if you enjoy it, who cares ? Those same people are likely loving on something you can't stand. It's called diversity, and IMO if people can't handle it, they shouldn't be online in message boards.

Edited February 27, 2019 by IWantCandy71

[IWantCandy71]

21 hours ago, Smad said:

Apparently people have no problem with Larson and Disney doing a little money laundering via #gofundme campaigns. False narratives invented in the face of resistance due to social politics push in their ad campaigns and interviews. Theaters not allowing previously bought CM tickets to be refunded whereas they allow it for every other movie. And the robbing of freedom of speech as we see now on RT. That's all fine it seems.😩

What's this about money laundering  ?

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On 2/26/2019 at 9:04 AM, Smad said:

Why does everyone keep insisting on calling them reviews? Has anyone actually read them? Those weren't reviews, it was just people saying 'I want to see this movie' and 'I don't want to see this movie'. There wasn't even trolling going on. That RT took down the % system right when CM kept sinking (it got down to 27%) is surely just a coincidence. Not. So much for 'freedom of speech', figuratively speaking.

It’s not a coincidence but RT didn’t make this change to protect CM or Disney. They did it to protect their own credibility and bottom line. RT is owned by Fandango which is owned by Comcast and Warner Bros. Low ratings have the potential to hurt ticket sales which mean they make less money.

The % for Star Wars Episode IX was also plummeting just before the change was made even though it’s not coming out for 10 months. There is no way that is good for RT’s parent company. 

[Smad]

4 hours ago, IWantCandy71 said:

What's this about money laundering  ?

Brie Larson advertised #gofundme campaigns on her twitter (even on Ellen). It was to raise money for underprivileged girls (not boys of course) so they can see the movie. These girls don't need a movie, they need food, clothes and a roof over their heads. Brie was asking people who can afford it to fund the money via those campaigns (aka charity). Some of those #gofundme were just a couple thousand dollars and Brie probably got loads of money from her Marvel contract but didn't help one bit by spending some of her own money to help reach the desired goals for those funds. She is basically using regular people who can afford it to pay for movie tickets for others which is money directly into Disney's pocket and eventually hers. That's called money laundering.

49 minutes ago, Dani said:

It’s not a coincidence but RT didn’t make this change to protect CM or Disney. They did it to protect their own credibility and bottom line. RT is owned by Fandango which is owned by Comcast and Warner Bros. Low ratings have the potential to hurt ticket sales which mean they make less money.

Then why start now? These aren't the first movies it happened to I'm sure. So of course it's not coincidence that they only did it now. If you think companies like Disney (Marvel and Star Wars are both Disney) wouldn't do this to protect their business, then I don't know what to tell you. It's a regular business practice to silence anything that might give you a bad rep.