S06.E21: Reunion Part 1

[Yours Truly]

Ya know when else she had a glint in her eye?  When she told Rinna that Yo and David were getting a divorce.  A very, obvious glint.  And Rinna tried really hard to act concerned. If she hadn't lowered her eyes, I'm pretty sure we would have seen a glint there, too. It was all Rinna could do to conceal her smile.

 

I never liked Eileen.  It wasn't a popular opinion last season but I hated the way she treated Kim.  At the time I'm sure it seemed like she was handling her with classy, kid gloves but I always detected a meanness beneath that shiny exterior.  Maybe being mean is a prerequisite to being a HW.  Or a personality trait that one has to possess in order to be a fameho and sign up for this fustercluk in the first place.

I felt the same way about Eileen last year. Completely condescending with an underlying tone of disdain. Sort of like when overpriviledge snobs look down on the help but still address them in a "proper" manner.

 

Oh and that thing she does with her tongue in her mouth after every few sentences. What is that?! I've always wanted to mention it but I'm finally just throwing it out.

[Satchels of gold]

Kyle never claimed to be bedridden.

Edited April 20, 2016 by nc socialworker

[Vicky8675309]

We don't know that she HAS misinformed people.  Has she told anyone that she was cured by the doctors in Korea or Buttslovia or wherever she went and they should go there to get cured? She's shown pictures of her pharmacy, but has she told anyone she must try this or that?  I don't follow her or her social media that closely to know for sure.

 

I was on hospital bedrest for 3 months due to a high risk pregnancy.  I stayed in excellent shape by doing arm exercises using light weights and isometrics for my legs by pressing my feet against the footboard and other exercises for my lower body.  All recommended by my dr. and a physical therapist.  I came out firmer than when I went in. And it's possible, nay, probable Yo had access to trainers who were able to work her out.  And she wasn't even confined to bedrest. I was freaking bored and yes, kind of vain about my body so I wasn't just going to lie there and get all fat and atrophied.  I imagine Yo felt the same way.  I remember contracting my buttocks hundreds of times while lying there. LOLOL.  Hell, sometimes I do those exercises while I'm sitting here 'talking' to you. ;-)

 

 

We do know Yo has misinformed people. Just read her blogs:

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-6/blogs/yolanda-hadid/yolanda-lvp-and-kyle-could-learn-a

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-6/blogs/yolanda-hadid/yolanda-hadid-my-circle-got

[islandgal140]

LVP puts herself out there as a snooty old woman, so it's not a stretch to look at her that way? I liked her - I loved her when the show began.

 

Now?

 

We have unconsciously uncoupled.......whatever the fuck that means?

 

LOL! I think LVP is good reality tv and she even though I do find her a might tacky, she brings the wealth porn that separate this franchise from all others. That being said I don't dislike her but I "see her." No I don't think she is some Svengli that steals the will and autonomy to act from other HW like Lisar is insinuating, but  yeah, she plays the game to her advantage and never shows her own cards but is quick to flip someone else's. I won't even call it chess because this isn't geopolitics. She is neither Bobby Fisher or Francis Underwood, its friggin' Bravo HWs. At the most she is playing Chinese checkers. Frankly, I think if Lisa and Eileen are upset about anything it because the only game they have the mental acuity to play is Chutes and Ladders. 

 

I understand and share your frustration and that of the posters that left.  Though not a fan of Yolanda, nor suffering from Lyme, I don't like the vitriol toward every breath she takes/every move she makes.

 

There's a walk, and then there's a walk. Her explanation is exactly what I posted right after that episode aired and her head was called for. You can remain fit after being sick and in bed for long periods.  Kids CAN play football if they have Lyme.  Or maybe they go through such hard parts of their illnesses that they have to stop riding their horses.  Shrug.  So what if Yo was in a scavenger hunt.  Maybe she felt good that day/week/month. That's how chronic illness works.

 

And therein lies Yolanda's problem. All the alleged ups and downs and conflicting selfies are easily explained if Yo would just say that she has her good and bad days and the happy selfies were on good days. However, Yo will not and never admits to having a good day.  It is always that she just mustered enough energy at that moment to look good or have a happy moment. She perpetually sells it like her fuel tank is always hovering around E and it takes planning and timing to get some good moments. She is so focused on selling the chronic illness that it will not allow her to say she feels well or has good days. Seriously, Yo could have squashed that enter line of questioning if she but admitted this. Hell, even some cancer patients have good days, but not Yo. 

[BlackMamba]

LOL Isn't Yolanda the one that lectures the others that tweets/texts are not enough for her?

Guess not this year. She needs the support

[poeticlicensed]

The amount of hyperbole these women engage in is mindboggling. Kyle is completely debilitated. Yo knows clinically depressed, because she was that, not now of course, lol

Edited April 20, 2016 by poeticlicensed

[BlackMamba]

Any other soap fans see Nancy Lee Grahn's tweet about how she refuses to watch this show because Lisar and Eileen on the show don't represent the women she knows?

Eileen's blog is so over the top. She's acting like she's a whistleblower exposing important corruption. Get a grip girl.

Nancy Lee is a great soap actress but I hated how she came for Viola Davis after her Emmy win. I'm still raw about that.

[bichonblitz]

I'm confused.....Yolanda said last night that she contracted Lyme a few months before her marriage to David. Yet, in her first season on the show, after a year or so of marriage, she's working out, running, climing the Hills of Lemons.... As someone pointed out, she can't keep her stories straight. 

 

This! I was always on the fence about Yo's Lymes until last night. She's a freakin' liar and nobody is pointing out her constant  change of the lymes timeline.  I suppose next season we will be subjected to the "cured" single Yo,  her new life in her new condo, going to her daughter's fashion shows and trying to make her son happen. I don't doubt there will be more picnic's with Brandi and Kim, oh goody. 

 

Why is she defending David so vehemently? The man walked when she was "sick". He's an asshole.

Anybody else think LVP was jabbing at Yo, asking her about the divorce? Was she blind sighted, did she know, when did she know, how did she know, who's decision was it, Oh, you had a fight on Nov. 2.? etc, etc.. She couldn't control her shady self and I was getting quite a chuckle out of it. Yo didn't even know what hit her. LVP is very, very good at her "manipulation". 

 

Was Kyle starting to cry when she was talking about poor Faye? Please, I can't with Kyle sometimes. She was sporting that same green super sparkly eyeshadow she had on last reunion. Who told her she should repeat that look...

[Vicky8675309]

And yet, Kyle said her depression was "completely debilitating for 2 years" after her mom died.  The emphasis on completely was Kyle's. 

 

Yet, for those 2 years, I can find many pictures of her at Paris' various product launches, fund raisers, the MTV Movie Awards, filming 'ER' and 'The Simple Life'.  She even managed to get out and get her hair cut during that completely debilitating time.  (Looks good, btw) 

 

For someone completely debilitated, she sure got around a lot.

 

 

completely debilitated is not the same as bedridden.

it's the same as saying she was completely weary. Whereas bedridden is a very objective or concrete word which means confined to a bed by sickness 

[IKnowRight]

This went as I expected it would. Yolanda explains what she was going through and what her definition of a walk is, seemed reasonable to me. But hells bells, the viewers won't hear it. She is asked a generalized question and OFFERS in her response her past clinical depression, to make it clear she does understand the difference between clinical depression and being depressed. She's lived it. But once again clang on the bells from viewers. Last year so much in opinion of she must be crazy not to be having other things looked into for her health issues. Tonight she offers up some of the testing she was having done all along. depression. implants. hormones. CLANG BELLS YOLANDA PUT SOMETHING UP HER BUTT hahahehehaha snarkable. For gawd sakes. Viewers spat for time line explanations, very reasonable explanations are given. It is not enough, because any RH shoulda coulda woulda so Yo's lying she shoulda coulda woulda.

There will be no reason good enough for someone that doesn't want to believe. Ever. Paid celebrity or not paid celebrity.

Doesn't surprise me that I don't see some forum contributors around anymore. Specifically most the ones who share some of their own personal experiences with health struggles. ( it's called health struggle because it is a struggle/no quick fix/a lot of uncertainties). Those who have lived with or have had health issues that are ongoing KNOW the drill and can see a fake persona in forums as clearly as they can see face work on the HW's ..very clearly.

I'm thinking the snark opinions about Yolanda, after the 'oh so sorry for what you've gone through fellow poster' months prior, does discourage some from participating anymore in discussions. And yes I do get that this is a forum for snark on celebrities. And yes I do know there are ignore features available to everyone. And no, I don't need replies on how my opinion doesn't match your opinion 'because yadda yadda insert how blind I am and how seeing you are here'.

My opinion may be idiotic to others, I'm fine with that. But none of us are idiots or beneath another for having and sharing an opinion.

Never assume how others form their opinions. I don't care how anyone formulates their opinions.

I'm a long time poster from here and the good old defunct Bravo board and many here may remember that I've mentioned bits and pieces of my nasty, freak disease that is rare and very difficult to diagnose. Let's just say it was a mystery disease for years until it was finally diagnosed and I've been dealing with it for most of my life and now with menopause wreaking havoc mixed in, just for fun. One of my children (now healthy and 23) had a plethora of health issue that plagued him in high school while playing heavyduty sports and sometimes his issues got him down while trying to study and be a kid. I don't know how he managed it all and as an engineering major. Not an easy academic load, let's just say. Several doctor visits for both of us over the years, including surgery, MRIs by the dozens, neurosurgeons, endocrinology specialists...I could go on and on for days. Oh, and we had suspicions of Lyme for him as we come from an area of Lyme cases. I have three friends that have been directly affected by Lyme and children with Lyme. Yes, it goes undiagnosed and the medical community is still not on top of it, to make it simple. Two of those women work together and are very involved in advocacy of Lyme disease awareness. I get it, my family has lived it and I'm (and my understanding husband) are still living it. Ups and downs every day. I struggle like Yolanda with staying fit too. It sucks when you were a work out queen but your body doesn't support those wishes!

***It's not ignorance of health issues that is leading other posters to question WoYo's status.***

It's Yolanda's social media, actions, pictures, treatments, words, inconsistencies, exaggerations, attacking and dislike for fellow cast members that makes viewers scratch their heads.

Let me be clear for myself, I have a disease that is not visible to people too, Just like Yolanda, I have good days and bad days, just like Yo. I've been told I don't look sick. I know that's why Yolanda ditches make up on film sometimes so she gets the message across that looking well doesn't equal feeling well. I get it, I feel and understand her "journey" very much. It sucks to put it mildly. Most people that question her get it.

Edited April 20, 2016 by IKnowRight

[Wings]

And yet, Kyle said her depression was "completely debilitating for 2 years" after her mom died.  The emphasis on completely was Kyle's. 

 

Yet, for those 2 years, I can find many pictures of her at Paris' various product launches, fund raisers, the MTV Movie Awards, filming 'ER' and 'The Simple Life'.  She even managed to get out and get her hair cut during that completely debilitating time.  (Looks good, btw) 

 

For someone completely debilitated, she sure got around a lot.

 

 

 

We are all guilty of exaggerating with the use of extreme adverbs (and adjectives) at times.  Using this example to defend Yolanda is a stretch. IMO. 

[ivygirl]

Judging from last night, Yoyo made a miraculous recovery.

She will totally be back next season and promote the shit out of her selfies medical book.

Eileen might get the axe, she brings little to the show for that reported 800k, even Kathryn has her yummy hubby and judging from last night, she truly brings the real.

Bye ms Davidson.

And I really liked Kathryn's reunion look. Great color and the dress looked good on her. The higher neckline also helped. The shiny and the illusion fabrics and deep necklines don't do these HWs any favors on camera, on couches. Why do they insist on looking like ice skaters*? Not saying they need to dress up in Kyle's old Little House costumes, but a look like Kathryn's > the rest, IMO.

* this is not a reference to Joyce

Edited April 20, 2016 by ivygirl

[Satchels of gold]

There have been so many articles and studies linked on this forum that show that CLD does not exsist. If people choose not to read them or believe them I don't know what would ever convince them. I put me faith in medical researchers and do not beleive that Yolanda and her doctors are on the cutting edge of medicine.

Just wanted to add that practitioners of alternative medicines make a lot of money off people's skepticism, fear and ignorance with literally no oversight for the government or licensing body. They are not giving away these cures and supplements for free.

Edited April 20, 2016 by nc socialworker

[The Mighty Peanut]

And yet, Kyle said her depression was "completely debilitating for 2 years" after her mom died.  The emphasis on completely was Kyle's. 

 

Yet, for those 2 years, I can find many pictures of her at Paris' various product launches, fund raisers, the MTV Movie Awards, filming 'ER' and 'The Simple Life'.  She even managed to get out and get her hair cut during that completely debilitating time.  (Looks good, btw) 

 

For someone completely debilitated, she sure got around a lot.

 

 

I am completely debilitated by those pants.

[BlackMamba]

See - I think this is the part that Eileen, especially, and to some degree, Lisa Rinna, don't get.

Eileen is so used to having the storyline and character/cast member personality written for her and others on soap operas. There is clear narrative as to who the "villian" or "mean girl/guy" is, and that character will almost ALWAYS be the villian, year after year after year. With "reality" TV, especially with the Housewives franchises, the villian or mean girl can change, depending on how the producers want each person to be displayed, each and every year.

They were expected to produce a certain amount of drama and nastiness, and they did so, regardless of the consequences. I think sometimes that Eileen and Lisa R. both forget that even though they are playing a "role", so to speak, that role is being played in pseudo-real life, with their real names, their real families, their real homes, etc. So, if they are turned into the villian, it is going to cross over into their non-show real lives, with all the consequences that go along with it, as opposed to the fictional world of a soap opera, where their character has a different name, different home, different family - all fictional - that the actor/actress can walk away from at the end of a day of filming. Not quite the same with reality shows.

Precisely. See some women in reality tv can handle being thw villian or mean girl because thats their calling. Brandi, Vicki, Kenya, Karen Huger, and LeeAnne on Dallas just to new a few because let's face it we didn't know these women until they came on housewives. As for Rinna and Davidson they been somewhat well known since their soap days and even who they dated and married. For them to lose their popularity after being "loved" last year and being the hated the next must be getting to them badly. Eileen has to keep reasoning to us that most fans, especially Vanderpumpies, are dead wrong for entertaining that we are wrong and she/LisaR aren't. Lisa R likes attention but I don't think she wants to be "the bitch" of RHOBH. Ever since last summer she claims she missed Brandi on the show and now I see why. Brandi is perfectly fine being the bitch and witch where Lisa could challenge a person like Brandi and come off looking and smelling great. I'm booking it now if LisaR ends up back on RHOBH she won't be Team Yolanda if anything she will go against Yolanda for not being appreciative of her calling out LVP. Something tells me also she will be up LVP ass like one Brandi tried last season early, but we all know, once you burn Lisa V there isn't any coming back.

[kokapetl]

completely debilitated is not the same as bedridden.

it's the same as saying she was completely weary. Whereas bedridden is a very objective or concrete word which means confined to a bed by sickness

How does "completely debilitated" present?

[ryebread]

completely debilitated is not the same as bedridden.

it's the same as saying she was completely weary. Whereas bedridden is a very objective or concrete word which means confined to a bed by sickness 

 

Disagree.  At least when I was on bedrest I could get up to use the bathroom.  I wasn't completely bedridden like the high risk pregos on my floor who had to use a bed pan. 

 

Completely debilitated means complete.  Not able to do anything due to complete infirmary.  Even if Kyle was wearing an ostomy bag under those hideous pants at the ER party, she wasn't completely debilitated.  But do I think Kyle really meant she was completely debilitated? Nah. Debilitated? Sure.  I just wanted to make a point about how hypocritical she/they/us can be and wondering why it's okay for Kyle and the others and us to misspeak but for Yoyo, it's a no no.

Edited April 20, 2016 by ryebread

[RHJunkie]

LOL! I think LVP is good reality tv and she even though I do find her a might tacky, she brings the wealth porn that separate this franchise from all others. That being said I don't dislike her but I "see her." No I don't think she is some Svengli that steals the will and autonomy to act from other HW like Lisar is insinuating, but  yeah, she plays the game to her advantage and never shows her own cards but is quick to flip someone else's. I won't even call it chess because this isn't geopolitics. She is neither Bobby Fisher or Francis Underwood, its friggin' Bravo HWs. At the most she is playing Chinese checkers. Frankly, I think if Lisa and Eileen are upset about anything it because the only game they have the mental acuity to play is Chutes and Ladders. 

 

 

And therein lies Yolanda's problem. All the alleged ups and downs and conflicting selfies are easily explained if Yo would just say that she has her good and bad days and the happy selfies were on good days. However, Yo will not and never admits to having a good day.  It is always that she just mustered enough energy at that moment to look good or have a happy moment. She perpetually sells it like her fuel tank is always hovering around E and it takes planning and timing to get some good moments. She is so focused on selling the chronic illness that it will not allow her to say she feels well or has good days. Seriously, Yo could have squashed that enter line of questioning if she but admitted this. Hell, even some cancer patients have good days, but not Yo. 

 

You hit the nail right on its head. What you explained about LVP and Yolanda in two paragraphs took an entire season and still a boatload of unresolved issues still, lol.

[Satchels of gold]

Kyle doesn't post pictures of her children carrying her because she is to ill to walk. That's the difference .

Edited April 20, 2016 by nc socialworker

[walnutqueen]

When WoeYo grabbed Kyle's arm during the Munchie discussion, I was SO wanting Kyle to pitch a fit and accuse Yo of assaulting her.

[JenFromCincy]

 

Why is she defending David so vehemently? The man walked when she was "sick". He's an asshole.

Anybody else think LVP was jabbing at Yo, asking her about the divorce? Was she blind sighted, did she know, when did she know, how did she know, who's decision was it, Oh, you had a fight on Nov. 2.? etc, etc.. She couldn't control her shady self and I was getting quite a chuckle out of it. Yo didn't even know what hit her. LVP is very, very good at her "manipulation". 

There's a chance that she's defending David because she's the one who initiated the divorce and all that it would take for him to come out and say so would be her making him out to be the uncaring bad guy.  Nov. 2nd was likely the "I'm not funding any more quackery" fight and the 15th could have been the date she filed.  No statement she's made has expressed exactly who filed.  Any specifics have been dodged with vague answers.   Keeping it vague lets people assume he's the jerk who left a sick wife without her ever having to say it.  If she does come out and say she filed, she loses her victim status.  Of course, I could be wrong, but we'll find out when it becomes public record.

 

ETA:  Just Googled and I'm repeating old news.  It came out that Yolanda filed in January.  The November 15th date she discussed on WWHL was likely when she told him.  (Or he told her, but since she filed, I'm guessing she told him.)

Edited April 20, 2016 by JenFromCincy

[RHJunkie]

Disagree.  At least when I was bedridden I could get up to use the bathroom.  I wasn't completely bedridden like the high risk pregos on my floor who had to use a bed pan. 

 

Completely debilitated means complete.  Not able to do anything due to complete infirmary.  Even if Kyle was wearing an ostomy bag under those hideous pants at the ER party, she wasn't completely debilitated.  But do I think Kyle really meant she was completely debilitated? Nah. Debilitated? Sure.  I just wanted to make a point about how hypocritical she/they/us can be and wondering why it's okay for Kyle and the others and us to misspeak but for Yoyo, it's a no no.

 

I may be mistaken but I use the word in relation to the physical, emotional, and or mental. I've never considered the term to refer to just one singular aspect of well-being. If someone is having suicidal thoughts, I would consider that as being completed debilitated. Someone who questions their need to exist, to me is complete debilitation because to me it represents someone who has reached their most weakest point. I'm not speaking for Kyle or the accuracy of her statement but I don't think a red carpet picture really covers all of the basis of what it can mean to be debilitated. Then again, I may be mistaken with my interpretation of the word.

[ryebread]

There have been so many articles and studies linked on this forum that show that CLD does not exsist.

Even though the CDC calls it "Post-treatment Lyme Disease Syndrome" (PTLDS), they acknowledge that it's sometimes called chronic lyme disease.  So some of the laymen and the sufferers are not calling it PTLDS.  With swollen brains, how can they be expected to remember that?  The CDC doesn't exactly say it doesn't exist. 

Although sometimes called "chronic Lyme disease," this condition is properly known as "Post-treatment Lyme Disease Syndrome" (PTLDS).

http://www.cdc.gov/lyme/postlds/

 

Topic?

Kyle's reunion hair was not good.  I think she had recently cut and didn't know what to do with it.  Or maybe it's because it was styled so differently than what we see that it takes some getting used to.  The curls were erratic and not in a good way like they can be in choppy layers.

[KFC]

Kathryn wrote a harsh blog about Faye after Kyle's lunch, and Kyle said that she was disappointed by this because after the event Kathryn admitted she had seen a different side of Faye and she liked her. I think that it irritated Kyle to no end that finally someone was seeing in Faye what she had always seen, yet she didn't take the time to share it with the audience. Saying privately that she liked Faye, but publicly slamming her.

This makes me think of Kyle's appearance on Heather Dubrow's podcast, where Kyle mentioned one of her biggest issues was with HWs who act fine in-person about a situation during filming, but then months later blog about it as if they still have an issue. I wasn't sure whom she was referring to but now it seems like she was referencing Kathryn.

I find it all the more interesting considering they seem to be aligned with each ofher for the sake of LVP (as evidenced by the post-reunion groupings). To an extent, it's a weird parallel to Rinna, Eileen and Yo.

[SweetieDarling]

I know others don't agree, but one of the reasons I like Kyle is nights like last night. While I agree that she should have let Kathryn have her feelings, I love that she won't back down in the face of public opinion about Faye. No way she is not extremely clear on the fact that most hate Faye, and she is going to lose points for a hectic defense of her. It would be easier and make more people root for her if she said little to defend her, yet she doesn't change the way she feels about Faye just because it would make her look better. That is something you don't see often from these gals. I actually thought the biggest reveal of the night was Yo whispering to Erika that she wished Kyle would have stood up for her in the same way she stood up for Faye. This one line perfectly summarized all that I dislike about Yo. It is always all about her, even when it isn't. It illuminated the unrealistic expectations that Yo has regarding all of these ladies. Why would Kyle passionately defend Yo in the same manner? What has Yo ever done to inspire that kind of loyalty from Kyle?

I thought Yo was referencing LisaV's support of Kyle.  She said this right after LisaV patted Kyle's hand as if to comfort her, while rationalizing her reaction by saying "She's always been very protective of Faye"  which would make Yo seem jealous of the tightness of the friendship between Kyle and LisaV -which I can totally believe- LisaV and Kyle both supported each other this season in ways that follow the Yolanda Hadid Rules of Friendship. Yolanda has been demanding this type of support (along with a Starbucks and some flowers) from Lisa ever since she came on the show.

 

It could also be about Kyle's devotion to TMCFR.  Maybe she's jealous because she doesn't have anyone like that in her life. it is a long list of rules that must be obeyed,

[zoeysmom]

There's a chance that she's defending David because she's the one who initiated the divorce and all that it would take for him to come out and say so would be her making him out to be the uncaring bad guy.  Nov. 2nd was likely the "I'm not funding any more quackery" fight and the 15th could have been the date she filed.  No statement she's made has expressed exactly who filed.  Any specifics have been dodged with vague answers.   Keeping it vague lets people assume he's the jerk who left a sick wife without her ever having to say it.  If she does come out and say she filed, she loses her victim status.  Of course, I could be wrong, but we'll find out when it becomes public record.

 

ETA:  Just Googled and I'm repeating old news.  It came out that Yolanda filed in January.  The November 15th date she discussed on WWHL was likely when she told him.  (Or he told her, but since she filed, I'm guessing she told him.)

Yolanda filed for divorce in January of 2016.

[Satchels of gold]

i think there are a probably many reasons why Yo is not trashing David that have to do with mutual secret keeping and a possible pay out but I also think it's very much a part of Yo's personality to not acknowledge anger. IMO Yo does disappointed, sad, hurt, sick ,etc but she does not do anger. Anything that resemble anger gets redirected to other emotions and probably some physical malady. Now before my fellow posters unleash the cracken, that's just my opinion.

[Yours Truly]

I have had about all I can take of munchausens!

Lisa R- I would not believe her if her tongue came notarized... How many times has she changed this story ?

Oh this was just gold!!! I busted out laughing at my desk at work. Not a quick laugh and caught myself but a loud uncontrollable laugh. FUNNY!

[Vicky8675309]

How does "completely debilitated" present?

 

 

Disagree.  At least when I was bedridden I could get up to use the bathroom.  I wasn't completely bedridden like the high risk pregos on my floor who had to use a bed pan. 

 

Completely debilitated means complete.  Not able to do anything due to complete infirmary.  Even if Kyle was wearing an ostomy bag under those hideous pants at the ER party, she wasn't completely debilitated.  But do I think Kyle really meant she was completely debilitated? Nah. Debilitated? Sure.  I just wanted to make a point about how hypocritical she/they/us can be and wondering why it's okay for Kyle and the others and us to misspeak but for Yoyo, it's a no no.

 

weary is a synonym for debilitated

immobilized is a synonym for bedridden

 

if you get up to use a bedside commode, you are not bedridden unless someone had to transfer you to and from the bedside commode. If you are able to stand and hobble to the bathroom then you should include qualifiers such as "essentially (meaning almost but not quite) bedridden but I could hobble to the bathroom."

 

debilitated is more subjective whereas bedridden is more objective

 

If Yo stuck with fatigue or exhausted or debilitated then that would have been fine but to claim she is bedridden is different

[Satchels of gold]

Even though the CDC calls it "Post-treatment Lyme Disease Syndrome" (PTLDS), they acknowledge that it's sometimes called chronic lyme disease.  So some of the laymen and the sufferers are not calling it PTLDS.  With swollen brains, how can they be expected to remember that?  The CDC doesn't exactly say it doesn't exist. 

http://www.cdc.gov/lyme/postlds/

 

Topic?

Kyle's reunion hair was not good.  I think she had recently cut and didn't know what to do with it.  Or maybe it's because it was styled so differently than what we see that it takes some getting used to.  The curls were erratic and not in a good way like they can be in choppy layers.

I'm not saying post treatment Lyme disease doesn't exsist. But Yolanda has been clear that she doesn't have post treatment Lyme she has chronic neurological Lyme.

[Carolina Girl]

It's a shame Bravo no longer allows comments on these self-serving blogs of the Housewives - I imagine Eileen would be getting an earful on the basis of what I've read here so far (and agree with!)

[Jel]

Nancy Lee is a great soap actress but I hated how she came for Viola Davis after her Emmy win. I'm still raw about that.

Didn't watch the Emmys so I had to google that speech. In addition to being easily one of the top 10 American actresses in all genres, Viola Davis's speech was both gracious and poignant. Her Emmy win -- beyond deserved (I watch HTGAWM). Good day, Nancy Lee.

[bichonblitz]

Does it really matter who filed first or initiated the divorce? My point is she is defending him, and I see no reason why , because he left her in the midst of her so called chronic illness. And we keep seeing clips of her apologizing to him for not being the woman he married, he didn't sign up for this, blah, blah. As if her illness gives him a pass to bail. My opinion, I just think he's a selfish jerk, that's all. 

[Wings]

How does "completely debilitated" present?

 

I think Kyle meant emotionally.  And that can mean physically functioning, clearly.  

[ryebread]

Kyle never claimed to be bedridden.

I never said she did.  She said completely debilitated which would be as bad as completely bedridden.  Which she was not, though she said she was. (completely debilitated.)

[Primetimer]

Part one of the reunion kicks off and Lisa Rinna (literally) has the receipts to prove it.

Read the story

[poeticlicensed]

ETA:  Just Googled and I'm repeating old news.  It came out that Yolanda filed in January.  The November 15th date she discussed on WWHL was likely when she told him.  (Or he told her, but since she filed, I'm guessing she told him.)

 

Sometimes couples agree that one party or the other should be the one to file, for whatever reason. Just because Yo filed doesn't mean it was her idea. 

[kokapetl]

weary is a synonym for debilitated

immobilized is a synonym for bedridden

if you get up to use a bedside commode, you are not bedridden unless someone had to transfer you to and from the bedside commode. If you are able to stand and hobble to the bathroom then you should include qualifiers such as "essentially (meaning almost but not quite) bedridden but I could hobble to the bathroom."

debilitated is more subjective whereas bedridden is more objective

If Yo stuck with fatigue or exhausted or debilitated then that would have been fine but to claim she is bedridden is different

But to be completely debilitated? Shouldn't Kyle have been in a nursing home, and not doing her bit parts on ER?

[WireWrap]

Does it really matter who filed first or initiated the divorce? My point is she is defending him, and I see no reason why , because he left her in the midst of her so called chronic illness. And we keep seeing clips of her apologizing to him for not being the woman he married, he didn't sign up for this, blah, blah. As if her illness gives him a pass to bail. My opinion, I just think he's a selfish jerk, that's all. 

Yes, she does keep "apologizing" to him on camera but we haven't seen David do or say anything that warranted any of her apologies, nothing.

[Jel]

I think the fact that she is not bad mouthing David Foster is to her credit. She's being classy about it -- I like that. 

[kokapetl]

Sometimes couples agree that one party or the other should be the one to file, for whatever reason. Just because Yo filed doesn't mean it was her idea.

It seems they concluded that they just couldn't resolve whatever on 2nd Nov.

Yes, she does keep "apologizing" to him on camera but we haven't seen David do or say anything that warranted any of her apologies, nothing.

David didn't change, Yolanda changed, and she seems to feel that she couldn't fulfill her part of the bargain.

[WireWrap]

But to be completely debilitated? Shouldn't Kyle have been in a nursing home, and not doing her bit parts on ER?

 

I get what you are pointing out and I agree to an extent but.......(LOL)......We didn't witness this on the show and can't really compare the 2. Maybe Kyle behaved like Yolanda, exaggerate everything and make everything all about her, her needs, her demands, her, her, her but since we didn't get to witness it on any show, we can't really compare them without more info. LOL

[Vicky8675309]

I never said she did.  She said completely debilitated which would be as bad as completely bedridden.  Which she was not, though she said she was. (completely debilitated.)

 

nope, completely weary is not as bad as completely bedridden imo [edit: they both would suck equally...probably]

 

But to be completely debilitated? Shouldn't Kyle have been in a nursing home, and not doing her bit parts on ER?

 

nope, completely weary doesn't mean incapacitated

 

I do think that everyone, especially the housewives, should avoid using absolutes when possible.

 

Interesting deflection onto one comment made by Kyle when trying to negate years of Yo's intentional lying (and misinformation).  Yo exaggerates and lies so frequently that it seems to be the norm for her. I don't think she is just exaggerating but a combination of lies and exaggerations. Regardless, the context of Kyle's use of debilitated seems to be emotional rather than physical.

Edited April 20, 2016 by Vicky8675309

[LIMOM]

I'm right there with you. The blush came off that English rose for me after watching her unlikable performance on Dancing with the Stars.

For those who did not watch the show, what was so bad about LVP?

We don't know that she HAS misinformed people.  Has she told anyone that she was cured by the doctors in Korea or Buttslovia or wherever she went and they should go there to get cured? She's shown pictures of her pharmacy, but has she told anyone she must try this or that?  I don't follow her or her social media that closely to know for sure.

 

I was on hospital bedrest for 3 months due to a high risk pregnancy.  I stayed in excellent shape by doing arm exercises using light weights and isometrics for my legs by pressing my feet against the footboard and other exercises for my lower body.  All recommended by my dr. and a physical therapist.  I came out firmer than when I went in. And it's possible, nay, probable Yo had access to trainers who were able to work her out.  And she wasn't even confined to bedrest. I was freaking bored and yes, kind of vain about my body so I wasn't just going to lie there and get all fat and atrophied.  I imagine Yo felt the same way.  I remember contracting my buttocks hundreds of times while lying there. LOLOL.  Hell, sometimes I do those exercises while I'm sitting here 'talking' to v-)

Thanks for responding, it was not a dig toward you , I was seriously wondering how she could still be so fit while laying down for months, now I know ;-)

As far as yoyo, promoting all this quackery is misinformation, IMO.

She came across as her old self last night and it seems that she accepted her divorce from David and honestly she looked peaceful and well.

I think that she meant it when she said that she is done marrying. She has been hurt by David and is finally financially and professionally established.

[zoeysmom]

This! I was always on the fence about Yo's Lymes until last night. She's a freakin' liar and nobody is pointing out her constant  change of the lymes timeline.  I suppose next season we will be subjected to the "cured" single Yo,  her new life in her new condo, going to her daughter's fashion shows and trying to make her son happen. I don't doubt there will be more picnic's with Brandi and Kim, oh goody. 

 

Why is she defending David so vehemently? The man walked when she was "sick". He's an asshole.

Anybody else think LVP was jabbing at Yo, asking her about the divorce? Was she blind sighted, did she know, when did she know, how did she know, who's decision was it, Oh, you had a fight on Nov. 2.? etc, etc.. She couldn't control her shady self and I was getting quite a chuckle out of it. Yo didn't even know what hit her. LVP is very, very good at her "manipulation". 

 

Was Kyle starting to cry when she was talking about poor Faye? Please, I can't with Kyle sometimes. She was sporting that same green super sparkly eyeshadow she had on last reunion. Who told her she should repeat that look...

To me, LVP is trying to move the conversation along.   My feeling is Yolanda is saving the details of her oh so private divorce for her book and doesn't want to reveal too much.

[JenFromCincy]

Sometimes couples agree that one party or the other should be the one to file, for whatever reason. Just because Yo filed doesn't mean it was her idea. 

Agreed, but it doesn't mean it wasn't either. It's all just speculation at this point.  I believe that Yo is prone to displays of martyrdom.  By being vague in her responses to "was she blindsided" and "who decided" she's leaving a door open that it may have been him who wanted to call it off.  My gut says he cut off the funding for the cure-finding expeditions on Nov 2.  She stewed for a couple of weeks and decided her journey with Lyme's was more important than her journey with him.  If she bad-mouths him, he can put the truth out there.  So by playing nice, she looks like the victim which is her favorite role.  Again, these are purely my impressions and I'm not out to change the minds of others. It's just how I view it.

[slitz]

I want Kathryn back next year just for her blogs.  

 

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-6/blogs/kathryn-edwards/kathryn-edwards-i-believe-the

 

 

 

I will also say this...at this stage of the game, for me, as I have stated all along, I believe that the onus lies with Rinna. She can't, in the 24th hour, try to pin this one on anyone else, regardless of what happened...and I have no clue as to what went down.
I feel like a broken record, but I have to say it again...Rinna, you made the choice to talk about it. You're a strong, smart woman. I know you've owned it and apologized...I just don't know if it was smart to implicate others to take the pressure off yourself.

[phoenix780]

I tend to agree that we're sometimes too literal in responding to Yolanda's comments.  I'm from SoCal, hyperbole is pretty common around here, I don't think some of her comments, like the walk/walk thing or the "I haven't worn makeup in two years" one are a big deal.  Others, however, are shockingly ignorant and worthy of continuous criticism.  Just to pick from last night, I don't get how living a natural life involves implanting some kind of hormone-regulating device.  That seems like a contradiction that should be explored, before she starts selling health more aggressively.

 

Side note- she's always been selling health to us (lemons! cleanses!) with a sideline in relationships, that might trigger some of the intense questions/comments.  It's not challenging a sick woman; it's challenging a salesperson.  We should all challenge the claims of salespeople, imho.

 

I'm not sure that her admitting to good and bad days would be sufficient because for me with my admittedly-limited view of her life's activities it sometimes feels like the activity determines whether it's a good day as much as any actual health issues.  A scavenger hunt she organized, a trip to NYC to receive an award- those are good days.  Lunch with friends- good day.  Dinner with coworkers- too sick.  It feels convenient, like she uses health issues she may have to avoid saying that she doesn't want to do things.  

 

So I guess I think that's what she'd have to do: admit that there are some things she actually cares to do with her time so she can push through and things she doesn't want to do so she, y'know, doesn't.  There's nothing wrong with that, in my opinion.  It'd actually be kind of badass, and she could avoid creating moments where she tells elaborate tales that make people question her honesty overall.  It's never a simple "I don't feel well" with her (see, there's my SoCal hyperbole).  It's "my brain is swollen."  Say you're disinterested, avoid the excuse, avoid the questions that excuse can bring.  Easy!

 

In a way she's sort of similar to LVP.  LVP sticks to this nonsense about how she's not manipulative or encouraging people to do things on camera when she could own up to it and still be a perfectly reasonable, entertaining character.  "There goes our fucking storyline" could be more a joke than a lament (and it probably was, though I'm going to continue treating it like it was some serious offense because that makes the show fun for me).  And in general encouraging people on reality shows to actually discuss things on camera doesn't feel wrong or evil to me.  She and Yolanda both could benefit from...I dunno if "transparency" is the word but it's what comes to mind. 

 

Kyle's defense of Faye once again made me see her sister's point.  She's never done that for Kim (on camera).  Maybe it's because Kim got paid and Faye doesn't?  That's how I interpreted Kyle's comments, by the way.  If Faye were full time getting paid, she might not be so protective of her.

Edited April 20, 2016 by phoenix780

[zulualpha]

Does it really matter who filed first or initiated the divorce? My point is she is defending him, and I see no reason why , because he left her in the midst of her so called chronic illness. And we keep seeing clips of her apologizing to him for not being the woman he married, he didn't sign up for this, blah, blah. As if her illness gives him a pass to bail. My opinion, I just think he's a selfish jerk, that's all. 

No one can really know what goes on in someone else's marriage.  Only David and Yolanda know the whole story.  IMO we have seen David being an egotistical ass and we have seen Yolanda appearing to be high maintenance and  I mean before her illness reached defcon 4.  We have also seen Yolanda having romantic dinners with David, entertaining his friends and working on fundraising for his charitable foundation.  And on many occasions David was there for her events, her medical procedures, her children's/his step children's events and being loving toward her mother.  I hope they can both keep up the civility, I have no desire to see her trash him or vice versa.

[racked]

Nancy Lee is a great soap actress but I hated how she came for Viola Davis after her Emmy win. I'm still raw about that.

 

She did WHAT? I don't follow her, so I had no idea. Between her ED on this show... my fave soap actresses aren't holding up too well.