S06.E12: Hearing Problems

[crgirl412]

I just saw the part of the show where Our Lady of the Lemons was riding to the event, then when she went in on LisaR.  An apology isn't enough?  What does she want?  Crying, grovelling, shrieking?  Yo needs to have several seats.  If anyone had any balls, they'd say, yeah it seems way off - your illness.  You are going to every quack in the book.  Someone who is that ill doesn't travel around like you do, take selfies non stop, etc.  It does not make sense.  It does look like either you're depressed, going through the change, wanting attention in some way.  She's always about being honest, so here is my honest feeling - something is way off here.  Don't put your shit out for the general public if you aren't prepared for opinions you do not want to hear.  Not everyone will bow down to the words of Our Lady of the Lemons.  When she said oh hold on, do not interrupt me, she didn't look too damned sick.  I am just fighting a cold/flu and I didn't move in my house today except from bed to lounge chair, heating up food in the microwave.  I do not have a debilitating illness, yet I had no energy to do half the shit Yo does on a daily basis.  Did she really think everyone would be ready to canonize her as the patron saint of Lyme with no questions?

Yeah she's going back to Hadid as the last name so she can tie herself to Gigi and the non-Gigis. 

Can't read or process thoughts but she sure as hell was reading the shit off the cell phone she looked up.  Now she's on WWHL?  Sure find the energy when she needs to get her spin out there.  Done.  She can get off the show now as far as I'm concerned.  I wouldn't have apologized one bit to her.  I apologized once, do I need to add 10 Hail Marys (or it's it Hail Lemons?), and other penance to be determined by Yo?  How many times has Yo said shit about other housewives and never ever apologized?  A phony and a fake.

Our Lady of Lemons!!!!  TOO FUNNY!!!!!  

[izabella]

Yolanda - ugh. Again with short, white pants, greasy looking hair, and an old lady sweater.

 

She made sure to tell us she got it from GIGI's closet.

[sistermagpie]

She made sure to tell us she got it from GIGI's closet.

 

 

LOL! The udder one doesn't have as good taste in clothes as Gigi and Mami, no doubt.

[Sarcastica]

Munchausen and Lyme. Two words I never want to hear again. 

[WaltersHair]

 

Our Lady of Lemons!!!!  TOO FUNNY!!!!!

 

I secretly call her Our Lady of Perpetual Sour.

[islandgal140]

Another barbecue with no barbecue. How dreadful!

 

I guess I will be the cheese that stands alone because I'm disliking Rinna more than I am FroYo right now. Mainly because by introducing the Munchausen topic Rinna handed Yo the AK47, car and the keys to hijack this damn show.  The original conversation was just so damn dumb - she feels guilty for being a part of an untelevised conversation about Yo that we wouldn't have known about if she hadn't mentioned it on air. Now here we are.  Plus, Rinna just bugs the ever loving shit out of me. I am tired of hearing about Kim and how so-called vile and nasty she was to Rinna. There was many an eye roll to be had in my house when on the heels of Kathryn talking about her addict dad committing suicide we get a scene of Rinna with her daughters pouring over the sad, sad poetry of her poor drug overdosed sister. Transparent much! One of the lines in the poem said it all with how I felt about Rinna all up in Kim's shit - let your brother be, for if he needs your help, he will seek it. 

 

Yo, how can you have accepted an apology for being called something you didn't even know the definition of? Fact is Yo is contradictory. Just last week in the same scene she contradicted herself with the cryotherapy. First she said she did it daily, than she said weekly. She exaggerates and it seems to be an attempt to curry sympathy. She was seriously like a dog with a bone. I'm torn because I feel like Rinna mentioning the whole munchausen was wrong and just a storyline grab but I also can't get behind Yo either.

 

Lisa had more chemistry with Erika's husband in the 5 minutes she was on screen with him than I've ever seen in total between Mr & Mrs Girardi. 

 

Damn Erika where were these balls last week. 

 

Whole lot of twinks in Erika's entourage. Not that there is anything wrong with that. At least her main assistant didn't mention vaginas this episode.

 

As much as they mention Kim's name on this show, I hope her ass is getting a check.

[Satchels of gold]

Was Lisa R supposed to somehow realize that Yo didn't understand Munchausens , after she told her exactly what it was? Was she expecting a call from Lisa saying " Yo I'm worried you might think I said hauzen mauzen , I actually said Munchausens , just so we are clear "

[crgirl412]

A very severe case of Munchausen Syndrome.  After reading this, I don't think Yo has the real DSM version of it but she is close.  Sadly, the woman in this article discovered how difficult this disorder can be even after one has recovered. 

 

A Great Pretender Now Faces the Truth of Illness

by Denise Grady
The New York Times, July 20, 1999:D5.

 

http://www.forensic-psych.com/articles/artNYTimesPretender072099.php

[swankie]

Unfortunately, as much as Kyle wants to wipe it all way, Kim's evil behavior hurt people in an immediate, one-on-one way. Kim's bad behavior doesn't always relate directly to Kyle, so I can't stand how she tries to always minimize the pain Kim caused others with the "She's my sister, I can't hear this" bs.

 

 

I don't blame Kyle for getting upset.  Even if my sister was an asshole, you'd better not talk shit about her in my presence, or anyone in my family for that matter.  Family bonds should never be broken by outsiders as far as I'm concerned.  That's just how I roll and I admire Kyle for rolling that way.  And it doesn't matter that her sister acted like a complete loony toons, keep her name out of your mouth Rinna.  It's not like she knifed you or tried to cut you with a wine glass!  (read) 

 

Lisa Rinna is getting on my nerves trying to make every last storyline about her.  So since Kathryn shared the thing about her father, Rinna has to stage the thing with her daughters about her sister.  It's like she has to make herself part of everyone's storyline just like she practically hijacked Kim's last season.  She's really starting to get on my nerves.  But even though she is, I'm still on her side in regards to Yolanda.  Yolanda doesn't have a disease, she is one! 

 

And I call a big ole BULLSHIT on Erika claiming not to have already seen this show.  It looks like she and her husband have been watching it together.  How else was he able to come up with that assessment of LisaV so quickly.  He was meeting her for the first time and he's already got an opinion on what her personality is like?  They've been watching this show for some time it seems.  Erika is just a big ole lying liar who lies all the time! 

 

It really sums her up when she’s laughing at Lisa saying, “I apologized and we were fine. If you had another issue you should have called me.” Like of course Lisar is just supposed to know that Yolanda is angry again because her “nurse” read her what Munchausen’s is.

 

 

This is what gets me right here because Yolanda's goto line is, "Why didn't you just come to me and ask me instead of blah, blah, blah..."  When she laughed at Rinna when she said it I was hoping Rinna would smash her glass on the table and grab for Yolanda's neck.  lol

 

Bravo claims this extended footage of the Yolanda argument at Erika's :  http://www.bravotv.c...landas-argument

 

 

OMG!  I can't believe that when Yolanda was finally getting it thrown at her about all of the discrepancies in her internet posts, she grabs her head and starts claiming lymebrain again!  I just want to see her beat mercilessly at this point! 

 

I secretly call her Our Lady of Perpetual Sour.

 

 

I just call her "That Bitch!!!"

 

Edited February 17, 2016 by swankie

[rustyspigot]

 

Another barbecue with no barbecue. How dreadful!

 

But, there were go go boys in the pool.

Edited February 17, 2016 by rustyspigot

[WireWrap]

Bravo claims this extended footage of the Yolanda argument at Erika's :  http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-6/episode-12/videos/extended-lisa-and-yolandas-argument

 

Show hasn't aired here.

That was NOT shown and should have been shown IMO. It really highlights Yolanda self righteous ass even more than what they did air. Man, she is really going after the Lisa's, especially LisaV! I have no doubt she is doing it because of LisaV/Mohamed friendship AND Brandi blames LisaV for getting fired.

 

ETA, LisaR was correct in her comparison to what Kim did to her/Harry last season and Lisa's second hand comment about MS/Yolanda this season.

Edited February 17, 2016 by WireWrap

[breezy424]

First of all, I'm enjoying everyone's posts.

 

Second, Yo won the pole on WWHL on whose team are you on.  WTF?  Yeah, Lisar is not the best to go up against Yo.  But really?  Yo will be on a high for days.  So now Yo uses organic highlighter.  She wasn't asked about the makeup.  Hm.....  And apparently we're all ignorant about chronic illness.  Too bad the chronic illness she professes to have isn't even recognized.

 

I give kudos' to Lisa for at least saying something about Yo's inconsistencies.  Of course, Yo dismisses it.  I'm team Lisa, Kyle and Lisar on this.  Very disappointed with Eileen.

 

Wow.  Mr. Girardi is the boss for sure.  Erika Jane knows where the gravy train is coming from.  Tells me a lot about Erika and Erika Jane.  And what's with the yelling about Lisar's source?  Whoa.  I would have told her she's in no place about demanding sources when she couldn't even admit she was the source for Yo's knowledge of the Munchausen.  And Mr. Girardi has a huge ego.  He's just not 'that' charming to me.  I have a feeling Lisa saw right through it as well but she's not going to go up against it.  For now.

 

And speaking of which, really Yo?  Miss medical expert?  Yeah, another ploy by the supposed brain dead giving the 'by proxy' definition?  Apparently you're not all that brain dead.

 

I truly felt sorry for Kyle with the discussion of Kim.  If Lisar wants to discuss it, fine, with other people.  But she should have stopped when Kyle said she was uncomfortable.  There was no reason to continue.  And Kathryn's story about her father was so sad but I just wasn't feeling it.  Horrible on my part.  I know.

[Bronzedog]

How many times in past seasons has Yo mentioned her superior intelligence yet she can't pronounce Munchausen?

[mbaywife123]

How many times in past seasons has Yo mentioned her superior intelligence yet she can't pronounce Munchausen?

My point exactly.

Does anyone else remember her speaking Dutch/German with Mr. Joyce???

[st.louielouie]

I skipped the portions of Lisa R with her daughters as I just can't...  but other than that I loved this episode!  Kyle looked like a spring flower next to Adrienne - what the hell happened to her - she looks terrible.  I still sort of miss Adrienne, I liked her just not her plastic surgeon.  I understood where Kathryn was coming from and think Eileen is funny and I understand her uneasiness with tension.  Kim was horrible and weird in that limo ride with Lisa R - I had forgotten where she was calling her a slut and stuff.  Lisa V was on point and funny to me this episode. 

 

Yikes on the Erika and Tom relationship - he sort of treats her like crap and did seem like a crabby old guy.

 

Oh and I am tired of the Kyle and Kim story - I REALLY would rather hear about the Kathy and Kyle story and what is really going on.

[breezy424]

Oh.  I forgot about the barbecue/carnival.  How tacky was that?  We have Erika Jane's 'paid' team adoring her plus her declaration of showing Kyle what a barbecue is.  Hm.  No.  And yeah, I'm sure the husbands enjoyed the gay men in the pool.  If Erika wasn't a worshiper of Yo, I'm sure Yo would have had a lot to say.  Or if she brought the king with her.  Miss Erika is just tacky.

 

Side note:  How many times did Erika say that she also has an infrared sauna at Kathryn's house?

[Rina99]

I need to talk about Miss Eileen for a minute, because tonight she seemed to pretty much own her role as an undercover shitstir-er, I mean, someone who doesn't like things 'unfinished', lol. Having said that, she at least appears to want to have conversations vs a scream fest when she can, so there is that.

And I'll add my thanks to Kyle and LisaV both finally acknowledging that Yolanda has been inconsistent, at best, about her condition to her face, which is what seemed to prompt Yolanda's sudden desire to make up with LisaR. Next week's previews better not let me down!

[mbaywife123]

Yo was really quick on the child picture/artist name game on WWHL.

"It's all coming back now"

Bitch please, just showed her ass again.

[ninjago]

In this particular showdown, between Yo and Lisar at the pool party, I reluctantly sided with Yo.  What I got was that she accepted the apology, assuming Munchausen was some sort of other (physical) illness and when she found out what Lisar really said she was pissed and offended and didn't accept the apology.  

 

But the real reason I think Yo "won" was because Lisar was immediately backpedalling, refusing to say why she engaged in the conversation at all, what her questions and doubts were.  She just ran away from the whole thing and it made her seem even shadier than she really was.

[renatae]

I despise Yolanda with the acid of a million lemon groves. She might not have Munchausen or Lyme, but she's a self-righteous twat and I can't stand the sound of her voice.

She had a problem with Brandi? Fucking liar. Keep talking about integrity. You aligned yourself with the worst of the worst and now you're rewriting history.

Rinna apologized and was totally honest with Yolanda. Yolanda is pretending none of that ever happened. Yolanda didn't deserve the apology. It's now like Yolanda remembered she needs a storyline and decided to abuse Rinna post-apology. If I was in Rinna's place, I'd have thrown a drink in her face and said "Apology rescinded, bitch."

Yolanda has a problem with the truth. I have zero sympathy for her entitled ass. She's a viper who enjoys torturing others and seeking attention. She hasn't earned the kind of unconditional loyalty she wants from those other women. I'd walk away from Yo's lunacy and drama in a heartbeat if I was embroiled in it. I guess it's more difficult when it's a coworker.

ETA: Getting pushed to your breaking point and snapping doesn't make one bipolar. If a vile creature tried to smear a member of my nuclear family, I could see myself having Rinna's Amsterdam reaction. Push someone that far, they break. I don't see her throwing glasses at people every day. Unfortunately, as much as Kyle wants to wipe it all way, Kim's evil behavior hurt people in an immediate, one-on-one way. Kim's bad behavior doesn't always relate directly to Kyle, so I can't stand how she tries to always minimize the pain Kim caused others with the "She's my sister, I can't hear this" bs.

Remember Kyle, this is the same woman who blamed YOUR DAUGHTER for the bite Kim's dog inflicted on her. Take off the rose-colored glasses, because you sound deranged when you defend someone who did that to your child.

 

I agree with your comments about Yolanda, most especially that I don't see how she has earned unconditional loyalty and that no one can breathe a word that she doesn't agree with. As someone said after an earlier episode, why assume your friends would not have some discussion about your issues simply because they care, not because they are trying to put you down? I didn't see anyone being nasty during these conversations. They had questions. We all do. It's like LisaV said, she tweets about how she hasn't been out of bed in a year, but when you look back, a year ago she had them all running around Beverly Hills on a scavenger hunt and said they had to do it on foot. She wasn't having any trouble then.

 

I am aware with this sort of disease that there are good days and bad. I have an autoimmune disease and I can so identify with Yolanda on many levels, including how it feels when you think people don't understand or necessarily believe, and you are feeling like crud, In addition, you don't always look ill. However, she needs to stop the exaggeration. She is her own worst enemy, saying things like she hasn't been out of bed for 9 months, one year, four years.

 

I believe I remember Yolanda saying something to Brandi about saying you're sorry doesn't always cut it. However, it was in a sweet, motherly tone of voice. She wasn't taking her to task, she was gently reminding her you can't just do anything you please, then say you're sorry and expect people to forget all about it. I believe this followed the incident when Brandi threw wine in LisaV's face.  A far cry from how she reamed out LisaR and also the action that brought it about.

 

Also agreed that Kim has done some pretty foul things. I'm a bit on the fence about Kyle's reaction to tonight's discussion. She is reverting back to feeling she is disloyal to Kim about what Kim has brought upon herself, even when it comes to her own family. If all I hear about Kathy is true, Kathy is probably right up there bringing on the guilt trip. All I know is I would not like to be in Kyle's shoes, especially when Kim is acting like a viper.

 

 

Yolanda is WAY off base with Rinna!  She was reading the definition of Munchausen by proxy at Erika's. She is so disgustingly self-righteous and can't even fathom that anyone would question anything that she does.  She is very self-centered. LVP was the only one who even got even close to the real issue and Yo wouldn't even engage her as I think it's too close for comfort, it's easier to get mad about Munchausen by proxy.    

 

This a thousand times over! Yolanda does not listen at all. No matter how many people said no one discussed Munchausen by proxy, she did not hear one of them and just kept rolling over everyone. If they had accused her of that, she would have a reason for her anger. But they didn't, and she is either too stubborn to accept it, or she is deaf in both ears when she is shouting everyone down.

Edited February 17, 2016 by renatae

[princelina]

But, there were go go boys in the pool.

Remember that old SNL skit with Adam Sandler and Chris Farley that was a commercial for "Gay Budweiser" or something like that?  That's what those pool boys reminded me of :)

[renatae]

Oh, and I forgot - we were reminded that LisaR did indeed discuss and apologize about the Munchausen's comment when she went to Yo's. So why are they having this conversation about fessing up about this issue again? Yo definitely is not going to let go of this bone regardless.

 

Not surprising that it was Taylor who brought it up in the first place. And come to think of it, I think it was during that outdoor lunch she was present at a while back.

 

This silly nonsense about "you put this out in the universe" just gets to me. "Don't interrupt me." Blah, blah, blah.

 

I couldn't believe on WWHL that the majority sided with Yolanda. Well, maybe they all felt like me; I wouldn't want to embarass her on the live show by voting against her.

 

Not sure if it was the editing monkeys or what, but I noticed Erika looking bored and skeptical while Kathryn was talking about her father's addiction, but in the TH she was acting empathetic.

 

ETA: I didn't catch all of the discussion about who the person was who mentioned Munchausen's to LisaR when I made this post. Turns out it was NOT Taylor, but one of Lisa's hairdressers. Sorry!

Edited February 17, 2016 by renatae

[swankie]

This a thousand times over! Yolanda does not listen at all. No matter how many people said no one discussed Munchausen by proxy, she did not hear one of them and just kept rolling over everyone. If they had accused her of that, she would have a reason for her anger. But they didn't, and she is either too stubborn to accept it, or she is deaf in both ears when she is shouting everyone down.

 

I just wish these ladies would speak more clearly.  LisaV kept saying, "No, she didn't say that."  And Yolanda asked her how she could defend Rinna because she didn't know LisaV was trying to tell her she had the wrong definition.  LisaV should have said in order to make it clear, "No, that's the wrong definition.  That's "by proxy".  It's a whole different condition.  Rinna was talking about Munchausen, not Munchausen-by-proxy."  These women always seem to speak in half thoughts.  Make yourself clear so nobody misunderstands you ff's sake! 

Edited February 17, 2016 by swankie

[WireWrap]

I just wish these ladies would speak more clearly.  LisaV kept saying, "No, she didn't say that."  And Yolanda asked her how she could defend Rinna because she didn't know LisaV was trying to tell her she had the wrong definition.  LisaV should have said in order to make it clear, "No, that's the wrong definition.  That's "by proxy".  It's a whole different condition.  Rinna was talking about Munchausen, not Munchausen-by-proxy."  These women always seem to speak in half thoughts.  Make yourself clear so nobody misunderstands you ff's sake! 

They did try but Yolanda cut them off each time. IMO, Yolanda was well aware of the difference BEFORE this BBQ carnival and that is why she said something to LisaV immediately when LisaV tried to explain. Also, LisaR explained what it was when she apologized to Yolanda face to face. AND it is a crock of shite that Yolanda could NOT pronounce the word "Munchausen" as it is a German word and she speaks German as we saw her do with Michael (Joyce's husband) 2 seasons ago. LOL Yolanda is playing THE victim of ALL victims EVER! LOL

[princelina]

I couldn't believe on WWHL that the majority sided with Yolanda. Well, maybe they all felt like me; I wouldn't want to embarass her on the live show by voting against her.

I would have done it with glee!  A couple of times!  :)

[Brooke0707]

Ugh hate Yolanda! Guess the Lyme has cleared up and now she can capably attack others. Don't buy that she didn't know what munchhausen was. In fact, didn't someone else originally tell her that Lisa had mentioned munchhausen? And didn't this person explain what it was? Maybe I'm imagining the scene.

Girardi is an ass. Erika is a liar especially when she talks about him. Please shut up with the whole "he is with the clients" nonsense.

Edited February 17, 2016 by Brooke0707

[rho]

The editors made me laugh so hard tonight - it was a quick or you'll miss it moment.  When they were at Erika's barbecue, after the squabbling had gone on for a while with Yo and Lisar, the camera cuts to Ken and Kathryn's husband lounging together at a nearby table, chatting.  Kathryn's husband is saying, "...I'm not a fan, I'm a player.  I love the competition, I love the action.." and then the camera swings back to the ladies you hear Yo lecturing, "...Sorry sometimes doesn't work..."

 

OMG, I died laughing. 

 

This was my favorite part of the episode!! Especially because it's almost exactly what Kathryn says in the opening credits. It was glorious! Like the old man stuck sitting with someone's kid while the moms argue on the other side of the pool. I wanted more!

[phoenix780]

Eileen is again my MVP. I'm sure that's super meaningful to her.

To me this is Yolanda vs. Vanderpump with Rinna as collateral damage. I'm loving it, Yolanda is so outclassed, imho. She's also a dick who needs to learn to listen. However, getting Erika on was smart. Much better as an ally than Brandi.

All the Kim talk...whatever. I like closure, I believe they'd still talk about her, I profoundly don't care. Though Erika's faces during that conversation were entertaining. She can't even try to give a fuck, it's a little cunty.

I so don't get the carnival with gay male accessories. I loved Kathryn's husband being eager to get in that pool.

All in all, cocktail in hand, I had a good time watching. I'm going to need a new argument soon though. I'm fickle.

[WireWrap]

Ugh hate Yolanda! Guess the Lyme has cleared up and now she can capably attack others. Don't buy that she didn't know what munchhausen was. In fact, didn't someone else originally tell her that Lisa had mentioned munchhausen? And didn't this person explain what it was? Maybe I'm imagining the scene.

Girardi is an ass. Erika is a liar especially when she talks about him. Please shut up with the whole "he is with the clients" nonsense.

Yes, Eileen spilled the beans to Yolanda and then explained that LisaR was only repeating what she had heard, so Yolanda knew full well what MS/MBP are and the difference before that carnival BBQ at Erika's IMO. LOL

[renatae]

I noticed in the promo that Andy introduced her as "Yolanda Hadid".  Now I have not been divorced twice, but is it typical to discard the second husband's name and return to first husband's name?  Or does that only apply when first hubby's name is well-known?  If hubby #1 had the last name Finkelmeyer or Jones, would Yolanda now be calling herself Yolanda Finkelmeyer/Jones?

 

I think she said she did it because her children's names are Hadid. Rather makes me wonder as well that, since they apparently are all hot in the news with their magazine covers and modeling gigs, she now wants to identify with their new stardom.

[UsernameFatigue]

What is it with these women and their non barbeques? When Erika was planning hers didn't she say she wanted a Beverly Hillbillies type BBQ (or did I have hearing problems?). I was picturing possum on the BBQ.

 

When Yolanda showed up at the non BBQ there was a brief flash of the colour manilla and I thought "Oh no, she brought the non Gigis' medical records with her!". But no, it was just Kyle handing a box of some sort to Erika.

 

Hmmm, looks like Erika is firmly under the boss's thumb. No wonder she created Erika Jane after she married Tom. He did have quite the spark with Lisa though. Ken did not look too pleased. Mind you Ken should be happy to be in Tom's company as for once he was the youngest guy there, and even looked it.

Edited February 17, 2016 by UsernameFatigue

[renatae]

Girardi is an ass. Erika is a liar especially when she talks about him. Please shut up with the whole "he is with the clients" nonsense.

 

Not sure whether he is with clients or not, but remember in the beginning, she was saying he was Erin Brokovich's employer? Maybe I read too much into it, but I recently looked him up to find out he became her employer AFTER she did the investigation of the PG&E incident. I felt that Erika implied he was Erin's boss during the investigation, but I could be wrong.

[Mya Stone]

This is your insomniac mod reminder to keep the snarkingTO THE SHOW ONLY, and not your fellow posters. I've hidden a handful that were guilty of the latter.

You guys know better.

[swankie]

Eileen is again my MVP. I'm sure that's super meaningful to her.

 

 

I love Eileen too, but that outfit was so not her.  She looked great in it, she just didn't look comfortable in it.  And I wonder if that is why she didn't eat when everyone else did.  This non-barbecue would have been the perfect time to wear her denim jumpsuit.  :)

[DebbieM4]

STFU Yolanda!

Notice the way she keeps mispronouncing Munchhausen in every conceivable way like she is some innocent ponytail wearing schoolgirl.

Loved LisaV calling Yo out on all of her Yo is me stories and timelines.

LisaR's hug with her was like, okay you crazy loon F off.

 

Finally, we heard one of them express what so many of us here have been saying.  We knew that they noticed it too, even if they were careful all this time not to say anything on camera.  LisaV is my hero of the night for saying what she did!  Of course Yolanda didn't want to hear it.  But LisaV said it, and now it's out there, and I could not be happier!

 

And then Yo began with the laughing - exactly how she treated Joyce when  Joyce called her out, with the laughter and "Oh, you're crazy!"  What a bitch.  I think I'll even call her c***ty - and I don't mean the "cool Erika Jayne definition" either!!

 

I flashed right back to her treatment of Joyce too.  That mocking, childish, superior thing that she does.  Her derisive laughter makes me really angry every single time we've seen her do it.  She literally laughs in someone's face AT them, as though she's the intelligent one and they're far too stupid to understand.   Just so offensive on so many levels.  She really does think she's better than everyone else.  Self-centered judgmental bitch.

 

 

Oh.  I forgot about the barbecue/carnival.  How tacky was that?  We have Erika Jane's 'paid' team adoring her plus her declaration of showing Kyle what a barbecue is.  Hm.  No.  And yeah, I'm sure the husbands enjoyed the gay men in the pool.  If Erika wasn't a worshiper of Yo, I'm sure Yo would have had a lot to say.  Or if she brought the king with her.  Miss Erika is just tacky.

 

Side note:  How many times did Erika say that she also has an infrared sauna at Kathryn's house?

 

Yes, that was really rude.  When someone shows you their house, it's common courtesy to say complimentary things, as all the other HW's were doing.   But when they were shown the infrared sauna, Erika interrupts with, "I have an infrared sauna".  And then since no one responded or seemed to notice or cared, she kept saying it louder and louder.  It's not nice, Erika, to be given a tour of someone's home and try to steal their thunder.  Be a gracious guest.  (And, for the 10,000th time, no - Everyone does NOT need a little Erika Jayne in their life!)

 

And yes, that "BBQ" was tacky.  Her need to be surrounded by gay guys and to have them fawn all over her has gotten really old too. 

[Umbelina]

nah.

 

Team Yolanda on this one.  She's right.  Lipsa put it out there in the universe.  She knew damn well there was a camera in her face, and this mythical "unknown person" didn't have 1.7 million people listening to that until Lipsa said it.

 

When you are right, you are right.  Even if you are annoying.

[bravofan27]

I really liked Erika's husband, Tom. He has a sparkly face, and Lisa's comments about the twinkle in his twinkle was so funny. Tom seems to be pumping plenty of testosterone for sure. He does get impatient with Erika but I think that's why Erika developed her moniker so she could kind of be the bratty jerk that she wanted to be. Maybe Tom's chiding and "strictness" fuels the Erika Jayne stuff. Not to defend an ass, but I like him. I think. At this point, I like him more than Erika.

 

Yolanda saying Moon-chan-house- on, and Mauchee- Mauchee, and all the other stuff was just so funny to me. 

 

LisaV was so funny. 

 

Everyone looked psycho in the previews for next week. 

Edited February 17, 2016 by bravofan27

[Brooke0707]

Not sure whether he is with clients or not, but remember in the beginning, she was saying he was Erin Brokovich's employer? Maybe I read too much into it, but I recently looked him up to find out he became her employer AFTER she did the investigation of the PG&E incident. I felt that Erika implied he was Erin's boss during the investigation, but I could be wrong.

What I mean is that he a plaintiff's personal injury trial lawyer and his clients are really injured or dead, so it is unlikely he is having these client dinners. His name isn't the biggest name amongst plaintiffs' personal injury lawyers anymore and I do wonder how often he is even in trial and working these days.

I believe his firm associated in the PG&E Hinkley case and so I thought he did work with her on that case - although her boss was likely Masri, not him; you don't suddenly have a new boss just because another firm is co counsel. I think he still hires her firm for investigation type stuff.

Edited February 17, 2016 by Brooke0707

[BlackMamba]

What's killing me is didn't Brandi call Bella an alcoholic last season and Yolanda didn't get this upset especially when LVP got in the convo. Funny how she picks and chooses her anger.

[swankie]

And yes, that "BBQ" was tacky.  Her need to be surrounded by gay guys and to have them fawn all over her has gotten really old too.

 

 

It looks like Erika's paid entourage knows to keep the compliments flying in order to earn that money.  And do they also live with her?  They seem to be with her more than her husband.  Judging from "The Boss", not too many compliments are being thrown her way by him anymore.  He seems to have gotten used to her long ago.  And the way he snapped at her in front of guests gives me more of an idea of how their relationship works.  He lets her use her Erika Jayne persona to fill the void of him being away from her and gets her out of his hair until he's ready for sex.  (That's how I picture them anyway.)

[Brooke0707]

Tired of Kyle's crying. Kim isn't even on the show and every other episode, Kyle is crying about her. Over it!! She needs to stop with the whole "don't talk about my sister" crap. The women had their own separate interactions with Kim and it was on the show. I mean I think it is boring and don't want to hear about Kim, but I don't like Kyle's snobby attitude about the whole thing. Half the time she brings it up. She doesn't get to control what is said.

Edited February 17, 2016 by Brooke0707

[renatae]

Bravo claims this extended footage of the Yolanda argument at Erika's :  http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-6/episode-12/videos/extended-lisa-and-yolandas-argument

 

Show hasn't aired here.

 

 

Oh, dear. "We all have different ideas about what support looks like."  Cue everyone wearing faces of doom as they realize that, for Yolanda, support means:

 

Never question me or my integrity.

 

Never breathe my name nor my children's names unless I give you permission.

 

Believe every word I say even when I contradict myself and your own lying eyes.

 

Don't even read definitions of things you think may be remotely related to my illness or my integrity. (Or lack thereof.)

 

Have my back no matter what.

 

Don't interrupt me. Even to clarify you never said what I'm accusing you of.

 

Visit, call, or write every day. A ride on your private plane would be appreciated. (You can purchase one if you don't already own one.)

 

You are dismissed.

Edited February 17, 2016 by renatae

[swankie]

I just watched WWHL and I'm so pissed off I can't breathe!!!  I hope they annihilate Yolanda's smug ass at the reunion.  Even after watching the episodes, she's still holding on to her bullshit idea that the others claim she doesn't have Lyme disease.  How many times do they have to say they never said that.  I'm almost hoping Kyle screams, "You're such a fucking liar Yolanda!" right in her face.  Grrrrrrr!!!

[biakbiak]

Yolanda smacking Lisa V down with what was said in a conversation between the two Lisas and Kyle was beyond ridiculous. I also loved when both LisaR and Kyle went rigid in their body language simultaneously when Yolanda brought up Brandi. It was a ridiculous comparison and clearly both of them were like NO,!

Edited February 17, 2016 by biakbiak

[kokapetl]

The Kim/Lisar "lying slut" thing was some weird acting exercise. When Lisar assaulted Kim in Amsterdam and when Lisar texted Kim a threatening message "be very careful or I will fuck you up", that was not acting. Kim may be a selfish inconsiderate shrieking alcoholic, but Lisar is a malicious, manipulative and violent scumbag. I couldn't believe when she dug out her OD'd sister's poems in a calculated effort to garner sympathy, but I really shouldn't have been surprised.

Yeah, Yolanda is nuts, but I don't think she's malingering or has a factitious disorder. Lisar's histrionic nuttery is far more dangerous.

Edited February 17, 2016 by Kokapetl

[Snappy]

She made sure to tell us she got it from GIGI's closet.

Going out on a limb here, but I'm guessing Gigi wouldn't be caught dead in that outfit!

[biakbiak]

LisaR was called out for not eating. She didn't start that conversation and it was Eileen (it's her voice as clear as day) and Kathryn who brought up the rumour about LisaR having an eating disorder when Lisa R brought up Kim . To my mind Kathryn unnecessarily elevated that convo and Kyle rewrote history and was unnecessarily dramatic and Erica and Kathryn continued to stir the pot.

Edited February 17, 2016 by biakbiak

[motorcitymom65]

In this particular showdown, between Yo and Lisar at the pool party, I reluctantly sided with Yo.  What I got was that she accepted the apology, assuming Munchausen was some sort of other (physical) illness and when she found out what Lisar really said she was pissed and offended and didn't accept the apology.  

 

But the real reason I think Yo "won" was because Lisar was immediately backpedalling, refusing to say why she engaged in the conversation at all, what her questions and doubts were.  She just ran away from the whole thing and it made her seem even shadier than she really was.

Yo is such a liar here. During the conversation with Lisar when she received her apology, she asked why anyone would pretend to be ill, so she completely got that this was the accusation. I think the part that she learned about later was the "by Proxy" part, which is not what Lisar said. She never accused her of "by Proxy", which is when someone makes another person ill for attention. Basically, batshit crazy Yo just got it all wrong and I could actually feel the frustration of the people at that table while they tried to explain this all to her. 

[swankie]

All of this talk of Munchausen this and Munchausen that.  Whoever Rinna got that info from got Yolanda's condition all wrong.  What they should have said was that she's a hypochondriac.  Bitch gets off on being sick.  She fills herself up with all of these so called cures and suffers from the symptoms of mixing all that shit together. 

 

When she said that even some family members question her illness the only person I could come up with that this could be is David.  We know it's not her mother, brother, children or even Mohammed.  I don't think he would give an opinion on her health one way or another.  That leaves David.  And I wonder if this has something to do with the demise of their marriage.  If she acts a fool because she thinks her friends are disloyal, Heaven forbid "my love" should ever question her. 

Edited February 17, 2016 by swankie

[zoeysmom]

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-6/episode-12/videos/extended-lisa-and-yolandas-argument

 

I reposted this because so much of the argument does not bring it home without the lost footage.

 

Somewhere in the mind of Yolanda's she has pretty much decided:

 

-her kids are off limits unless she tries to use them in an argument.  On WWHL last night Andy mentioned Lisar being at the Hilifiger show and Yolanda brought up-that she had not seen her but her son, Anwar had said, "there is the lady who said you had Munchausen's."  So apparently Anwar (who needs to be in school not trolling fashion shows) is either hearing and comprehension impaired or Yolanda is making stuff up.  Go to school and learn how to quote someone accurately, Anwar.

 

-selfies and absolute misinformation and lying about symptoms, infirmities are okay if you are trying to raise awareness for Lyme or other chromic invisible diseases.  It  reminds of a bumper sticker from the Vietname War era, "Fighting for peace is like f*cking for virginity."  I love it last night when Craig Ferguson said Yolanda looked healthy-I thought her head was going to spin off her neck when she had to correct him and tell him she may have looked good but felt bad.  A little standing "O" when Craig didn't let her have her moment.  He questioned her comment she would rather look bad on the outside and feel good than look good on the outside and feel bad on the inside.  He didn't let her have the moment.  (Cartwheels.) 

 

-Yolanda. like the trained seal she is, had been hyped by her nurse, (what happens when you hire a hooker and call her a nurse) to the point she was making up stories, and "putting those out in the universe".  She started down the "Munchausen by Proxy" spiel and could not be derailed.  To me, it showed, what some have asserted before, Yolanda is using untried and untrue supplements on her children, to bolster sympathy for  her health claims and sympathy.  She may not be dragging her kids to the emergency room but she is using them for sympathy, sort of like Munchausen by Proxy.  Let me show you my beautiful children and then describe their daily struggle with infirmity. 

 

-I loved LVP telling Yolanda she often says, "let me finish."  because Yolanda has zero desire to engage in conversation.  Her goal is state a position, accuse and leave.  The clip at the top of the page once she is called out, she starts in with the brain fog. 

 

-I thought Lisar was correct to ask Yolanda to contact her if she had further issues.  She could have done it on camera.  Yolanda acted as if it was some alien concept.  I also don't know what more Lisar can do than apologize.  It is not as if Lisar has ridden the Brandi train and lied and disparaged people left and right.