S06.E08: Going Deep

[bagger]

Is it just me or does LisaR seem to want to take on LisaV this season. We now have a couple of remarks, albeit not directly to LisaV but about LisaV that sounded snarky to my ears.

 

I can respect LisaV's answer that at this stage in her life she just doesnt have some of the worries that she did in years past. I mean Pandora is married and working on her carrier, Max seems to be a typical 20 something working for his parents and their businesses seem to be doing well. What exactly do these women want her to confess to?

[mbaywife123]

Yolanda is like a robot on a mission.

I wish someone would activate her power down button and put her in a cupboard then reprogram her and bring her out in a few years as the non self obsessed doting grandmother.

[ninjago]

Obviously, I wouldn't want to be married to David Foster, but, I would kill myself if I had a marriage like Lisa and Ken's.  Can a person get two seconds to themselves?

[BlackMamba]

Is it just me or does LisaR seem to want to take on LisaV this season. We now have a couple of remarks, albeit not directly to LisaV but about LisaV that sounded snarky to my ears.

 

Mhmm.  You can see it on her face everytime LVP speaks.  She damn near is about to pop especially when Eileen's affair got brought up again.  LisaR knows though if she takes on LVP most of LVP fans will be on her like a dog in heat on social media.  

[ivygirl]

Yolanda is like a robot on a mission.

I wish someone would activate her power down button and put her in a cupboard then reprogram her and bring her out in a few years as the non self obsessed doting grandmother.

...Like a senior-citizen version of VICI on Small Wonder?

[swankie]

I'm team LVP. There's nothing wrong with not crying every ten minutes and vomiting your feelings all over everyone.

 

 

Then she needs to stop delving into everyone else's hurtful situations and trying to get them to vomit their feelings all over everyone.  If she's wants to get, she needs to give.  Otherwise she needs to STFU! (as she who will remain nameless lest I conjure her up would say)

[Avaleigh]

I'm enjoying the episode and I'm glad that they aren't pretending like Kim doesn't exist because it wouldn't make any sense to not address the issue given how her issues have been apart of every season. She's not a full time cast member, she might not even be a friend of, but it makes sense that the women would talk about her. A bunch of posters were talking about Kim off season when she was having her series of meltdowns so it only makes sense that the people who actually interact with her would also talk about it. The show is manufactured enough. I'd hate to think that they were discouraged from discussing Kim because of some loyalty to her. Apart from the fact that she doesn't deserve it, it goes into the whole thing about how there are so rarely consequences for Kim's actions. That she's still being talked about this season and that I know she won't appreciate it feels like a kind of justice that is appropriate for Kim even if she'll never be able to recognize it. Anyway, other former cast members are talked about, I don't know why Kim the permanent victim should be off limits. 

 

I will shamelessly admit to enjoying getting the hint of the dirt when Kyle said that she and Kathy no longer speak. It's crazy how much drama there is between these three siblings. 

 

I'm going to organize my thoughts about the rest of the episode in a separate post. 

Edited January 20, 2016 by Avaleigh

[ryebread]

Kyle lost the poll on WWHL, or rather, won it, I think it was "who is biggest liar?"

 

And she was distraught.  Andy had to put the graphic back up so she could confirm.  LOL  32% Kyle, 25% Yo, 21% VDP.  These polls are more popularity contests than scientific studies but I thought it was kind of hilarious to see Kyle lose her cool over being voted the biggest liar. 

[Giselle]

It's a frigging dog. A rattan chair seat isn't going to irritate that hairless rat's ass. I'd be dammed if I would give up my cushioned seat for my guest's damn dog.

[Lassus]

I think Erika is boring because Erika is bored.

 

Meh.  I think her all-caps ERIKA JANE IS THE PART OF EVERY WOMAN IN HER THONG is really boring.  YMMV

[urusai]

LOL at Erika's rolling eyes TH after the convo with B.  She looked like a grown up Honey Boo Boo.  

[Giselle]

Shut the fuck up and go away Bethany RHONY is over. Soil your own pond.

I swear Yoyo could meet a dying cancer kid at a make a wish event and make it all about her. Noooobody suffers more than her.

Edited January 20, 2016 by Giselle

[lunastartron]

I heard "empaty," too. Didn't she also have difficulty understanding a particular word that Andy used at one of her earlier reunions? Why doesn't someone on production lecture her about speaking English since she lives in America?

[zoeysmom]

I heard "empaty," too. Didn't she also have difficulty understanding a particular word that Andy used at one of her earlier reunions? Why doesn't someone on production lecture her about speaking English since she lives in America?

Goad.  Yolanda asked, "what is to goad."

And she was distraught.  Andy had to put the graphic back up so she could confirm.  LOL  32% Kyle, 25% Yo, 21% VDP.  These polls are more popularity contests than scientific studies but I thought it was kind of hilarious to see Kyle lose her cool over being voted the biggest liar. 

What are they lying about and for the record-what a dumbass poll question. 

[Umbelina]

I admire anyone who is fluent in more than one language. 

 

I hope Kathryn Edwards rips the morally corrupt Faye Resnick several new assholes, of course that's hard to do, since she's one giant walking asshole.

[heatherchandler]

Lisa will never allow herself to be vulnerable and that says a lot about Lisa.  Nope.  She's not going to say what can keep her up at night.  I could never be friends with her.  She's not a down to earth person.  Oh, and Ken, go hang out with your 'friends' or something.  And I'd put a bowl of water out for Giggy and tell Ken the dog can hang out on the floor like a dog. 

 

Mauricio's anniversary gift to Kyle were gorgeous.

Oh what did he get her? I didn't catch WWHL.

I'm an animal lover and I am absolutely disgusted by the mistreatment or abuse of animals. That being said, for some reason I find myself wishing Jiggy would fall off a cliff.

[80sBaby]

I really cannot stand LisaR. She is so fake and messy. Now she's just so distraught over Kim...it just bothers her so much and Kim caused her so much pain?? She is full of shit. All she talked about was Kim. She would not leave Kim or the situation alone after being asked repeatedly to mind her business. The topper for me was the way she spinelessly folded at Adrienne's party when approached by Kim. She is ridiculous and annoying, her acting on these episodes is horrible as well. She should stick to the adult diaper commercials and leave the dramatics to Eileen.

I still love Eileen but she really was beating that horse to death tonight about the LVP conversation. She's an adult. She could have told Lisa she didn't want to talk about it and moved on. Instead she sat there squirming with her mouth open and making bug eyes...but still speaking on a topic she didn't want to discuss. That's on her. I also felt her breakdown about an abusive boyfriend that came out of nowhere was a performance...and from the look on LVP's face she did as well. Not saying it was a lie but I just didn't buy it at that moment.

Why must Ken always be shuffling behind Lisa toting around Jiggy? Can they stay home just once. .PLEASE!!! Ken is annoying to me. I like LVP but sometimes when she is with Ken it's like she ages 20 years. They come across like the judgy old Aunt and Uncle nobody likes at holiday dinners.

Of course out of over 9000 implant removals Yolanda's was the worst!!!

Still liking Erika. I enjoy how she doesn't take the bait or let these women get to her. She is so unbothered. I love that.

Back to LisaR... She was foaming at the mouth to bring up the 20 yr old OJ stuff. I really hope that doesn't carry throughout the season. I didn't like or dislike Katherine. Kyle was being messy bringing up the morally corrupt Faye Resnick, I didn't think Katherine was "aggressive" at all. "It's just a question.." Whatever Kyle.

P.S. Does anyone else LOL and/or cringe when they show LisaR walking? She walks like she is on a runway in an 80s high school fashion show. She looked like a damn fool in the shot of the ladies entering the restaurant.

[heatherchandler]

Then she needs to stop delving into everyone else's hurtful situations and trying to get them to vomit their feelings all over everyone.  If she's wants to get, she needs to give. 

Quid pro quo, Clarise!

I tell you mine, you tell me yours.

[lunastartron]

Not sure if "I admire anyone who is fluent in more than one language" was in reference to my most recent post but to clarify just in case: it was an allusion to one of Yo's first scenes on the series in which she instructs her Latino/Hispanic domestic help to desist conversing in their native tongue because they now live in the United States (as well as a reference to her horror to Joyce would call Brandi racist after remarks like "speak English, we're not in Miami!"). Yolanda's own empathy, it seems, does not extend to brown people.

[what]

P.S. Does anyone else LOL and/or cringe when they show LisaR walking? She walks like she is on a runway in an 80s high school fashion show. She looked like a damn fool in the shot of the ladies entering the restaurant.

Omg this sounds amazing! I have never paid attention to her walk so PLEASE elaborate! I'll have to rewatch!

[Primal Slayer]

This episode was ok, I enjoyed the Erika parts...it was nice to get the 7th and final HW of the season. Other then that...this season has mainly been REALLY boring. These women have such unresolved feelings about KIm and Brandi, just bring them back and give me the drama.

 

I love animals as much as the next person but that seems to be majority of Vanderpumps storyline this season, she has nothing else going on. 

[zulualpha]

I

will shamelessly admit to enjoying getting the hint of the dirt when Kyle said that she and Kathy no longer speak. It's crazy how much drama there is between these three siblings.

 

if there is a reality tv god Kathy Hilton will sign up for a season of RHOBH.  Shit would get REAL for Kyle, lol.

I feel like Erika would be better drunk, maybe let her guard down a little.  I kinda miss the drunken revels the girls used to have like Taylor's wine tasting at her place in Malibu.  Even Adrienne got toasted and a good time was had by viewers everywhere.

[BlackMamba]

if there is a reality tv god Kathy Hilton will sign up for a season of RHOBH. Shit would get REAL for Kyle, lol.

And what do you mean? All what would happen is Kathy would intimidate Kyle and talk in her code language about "secrets" she won't even reveal. She won't come on RHOBH because I'm sure if she dared to push Kyle's buttons Kyle would (might) give Kathy the Kim 2.0 special from the limo. Edited January 20, 2016 by BlackMamba

[Avaleigh]

So far Yolanda hasn't added anything interesting this season and this episode was no exception. All of her scenes feel like dead weight to me. 

 

LisaR has said some pretty ridiculous things this season and the comments about Kim are near the top of the list. She's coming across as especially desperate this season.

 

I liked LVP's "I've been wrong before" line about Kathryn.

 

Eileen's confession was awkward and I felt uncomfortable watching it. 

 

Random thought but I will be so bummed if Brandi ends up somehow befriending Erika because of Yolanda. Erika seemed like she'd be inclined to be nice to Brandi and Brandi will latch on because Erika has money. 

 

Next week looks juicy. 

[Teddybear]

I love Eileen, but she was a bit of a Debbie Downer tonight, with the domestic abuse discussion and spreading her sister's ashes in Italy.  Time and place, Eileen.  

 

Not sure if I like that Vinnie has a 5 second rule with the burgers that fell on the ground.  I wouldn't touch those with a 10 foot pole!!   

 

Kyle looked great in jeans, t-shirt and glasses.  

[WireWrap]

So far Yolanda hasn't added anything interesting this season and this episode was no exception. All of her scenes feel like dead weight to me. 

 

LisaR has said some pretty ridiculous things this season and the comments about Kim are near the top of the list. She's coming across as especially desperate this season.

 

I liked LVP's "I've been wrong before" line about Kathryn.

 

Eileen's confession was awkward and I felt uncomfortable watching it. 

 

Random thought but I will be so bummed if Brandi ends up somehow befriending Erika because of Yolanda. Erika seemed like she'd be inclined to be nice to Brandi and Brandi will latch on because Erika has money. 

 

Next week looks juicy. 

I think Brandi will say she is the poor Erika Jayne wannabe! LOL I wondered who was filling Brandi in on the others talking about her and I now see it is Erika in a round about way, Erika repeats to Yolanda what the others say and Yolanda tells Brandi.

[kokapetl]

I heard "empaty," too. Didn't she also have difficulty understanding a particular word that Andy used at one of her earlier reunions? Why doesn't someone on production lecture her about speaking English since she lives in America?

Yolanda once asked "what means 'goad'?" Sure her English pronunciation could be better, but her vocabulary is good enough 99% of the time. Learning and using a lot of obscure or big words is just going to make her look even more pretentious.

[izabella]

This season is gross, from Yo's epic journey to Faye.  I'm not at all interested in rehashing 20 year old gossip about the people around OJ and Nicole.  Major fail as far as I'm concerned if that's the purpose of Kathryn. 

 

Erika, thanks for letting Bethenny hang herself. 

[phoenix780]

I'm so confused.  Whenever they show Pump on Vanderpump's other show it's staffed by young hot white people.  Tonight, though, I saw a lot of older Latinos.  I know that show's about her other restaurant, but I still wonder- where were the kids?  Missed crossover opportunity, for sure.

 

Hey- remember all that crap that went down in 1994 with OJ?  Me neither!  Was this covered on Andy's special remixes of VH-1's I Love The 90s?  It's all so confusing, and not at all the lure I think they were hoping for.  Least not for me, especially if it involved Faye Resnick (I can never remember what her involvement was beyond writing some book, though I've read summaries a lot on boards like this one).  If you need to bring out the supporting players to drive your drama, you ain't editing right.  Or you didn't cast correctly.

 

Word to whoever said this episode was disjointed.  As is my post about it.  I take my cues from them.  Maybe I shouldn't watch without wine?  Though I will say...Eileen's disclosure makes more sense when I think more about OJ.  If that were accidental...weird.

 

I'll admit, I like knowing that they talk about Brandi, it's fun continuity that makes them more like real people to me.  That said, I have zero interest in hearing about or seeing Brandi herself (I saw the previews, I'm prepared to accept it).  Same goes for Kim.  I get that she's a topic, I don't care, though, because we'll never get at the reality of it.  It's been 100 years, until Rinna's talking head I don't think they've ever mentioned that she pops pills in addition to drinking.  The story is done, in this format.  When the kids start writing books...we can revisit.

 

Speaking of Rinna- she needs to own her role.  This whole "I want no part in it" weepy bullshit that she does every so often is totally at odds with her talking heads and on-air shenanigans.  Just be the villain.  Have fun with it.  It can't be worse than a Depends commercial.

 

Last thought: Vanderpump.  I want to be her when I grow up.  I want a butler following me at all times, taking care of my pet while I film, shutting up when I command.  I want to pretend like it's somehow inoffensive to bring up someone's affair, to say they have bigger claws than the lobster because they meekly (and irritatingly) try to drum up some drama.  Or state their feelings, whatever.  I want to tell people to ask me anything and then give nothing.  I want to overpronounce my r's, because it's a cool sound.  Hell, I want a cool accent in general so everything I say has less of an edge than if I were from, say, Jersey.  And the big ass house- that too.  Want it all.  Love how she hovers above them.

Edited January 20, 2016 by phoenix780

[GreatKazu]

Yolanda is so needy and deep down it is always about her. With every one.

I doubt she'd do half as much for Erika or hell even listens to her problems. Even wench she did nice things like bring My Love his lunch at work it was to build herself up, not because he wanted it or needed it, but because it was on camera and she wanted his attention too.

LOL to the bolded part. I know it was a typo, but it fits YoFo perfectly. Don't edit this!

 

Again with the Kim talk? Damnit Kyle. It is not fine for LisaV or anyone else to mention Kim, but it is fine to discuss it with Beth and Faye. Ok. Got it now. It is on your terms when you choose to discuss Kim and with whom. You are tiring me out with this shit. 

 

 

Also that sweaty, discolored, wrinkled Pump shirt they kept showing of the wait staff.

Was it sweaty and discolored? Oh wow. I thought it was some kind of bizarre design pattern on the shirt. 

 

YoFo and her comments about what constitutes a great friend. The kind who takes out their private jet to pick up her raggedy ass. Is this why she was such a bitch to Joyce and gave her the view of her backside at the reunion?  Well YoFo, it goes to show how much your husband really loves you. He couldn't bother to send out a rented private jet to get you back here to So. California. 

Edited January 20, 2016 by GreatKazu

[Happy Camper]

Praying to the Bravo God/Goddesses to please please please not bring back B.G. and /or have Erika align herself with B.G.

Also, please no more Yolanda.

Just my wish list, may not represent others.

Edited January 22, 2016 by Happy Camper

[zoeysmom]

Praying to the Bravo God/Godesses to please please please not bring back B.G. and /or have Erika align herself with B.G.

Also, please no more Yolanda.

Just my wish list, may not represent others.

We are praying to the same Bravo idols.  Thankfully I believe I heard Erika say she has only met Brandi once.

[GreatKazu]

I admire anyone who is fluent in more than one language. 

 

 

I do too.  I speak two languages myself.  YoFo speaks three languages - English, Dutch, and bullshit.

 

YoFo didn't seem to be too keen on the Hispanic worker who was speaking in his native language back when YoFo wasn't too ill, she was lemon infested, and she was happily married.  He may have been speaking Spanish to his fellow workers, but he sure as hell understood her nasty comment to him about his need to speak English.  YoFo is so trifling. 

Edited January 20, 2016 by GreatKazu

[swankie]

Yolanda once asked "what means 'goad'?" Sure her English pronunciation could be better, but her vocabulary is good enough 99% of the time.

 

 

We just have to remember that she's lost 90% of her brain function after all.  Lol!

[BlackMamba]

I do too. I speak two languages myself. YoFo speaks three languages - English, Dutch, and bullshit.

YoFo is so trifling.

[swankie]

I'm confused.  LisaR hasn't seen the new girl for umpteen years, and immediately brings up OJ?!  I'm almost sure she probably doesn't want to be reminded of that horrible period in their lives.  Rinna is a piece of work!

[selhars]

I just have to say, I can't believe how thin Lisa Rinna is.

I want to be thin like she is.

Some may consider her "too thin," but off the top of my head of ALL the housewives she's got the body I'd want.

Edited January 20, 2016 by selhars

[LilaFowler]

Lisa VDP's problem is that she's an asshole and she's cold.  As she has zero story line this season except making others feel uncomfortable, I actually am starting to wish the producers would have picked Brandi over her.  Once again, another of her "events" was totally lame and everyone bailed early.

 

I was worried this would be another Bethenny-centric episode but she wasn't on for long, thank god. 

[Miss February]

I've never understood Lisa V's continual use of sexual language about Giggy.  She often calls him a sex monster and then kisses him on the lips, and tonight she commented on how sexy he looks in his pink pajamas.  Has she not seen these moments on camera and realized how odd it sounds?  She's definitely veered into "eccentric" territory with that pup.

[Giselle]

We just have to remember that she's lost 90% of her brain function after all.  Lol!

 

Bet the bitch gets it all back after she squeezes what she wants out of David in the divorce.

 

I guess secretly Mo really hated David when he allowed his "good friend" to take Yoyo off his hands and off the payroll.

[DeeplyShallow]

I usually like Lisa V but I'm really not feeling her this season and this episode did her no favors with me. She just annoys. Also, enough with the freaking PINK. Honestly, the camera kept panning on pink everywhere and it was so freaking annoying. And was this a commercial for PUMP and Vanderpump Sangria? How many times did the camera focus on them? I've been to PUMP. Meh. It was ok.

The Eileen revelation did seem out of place and strange. Random.

Bethenny. Beyond over you. Go back to infecting RHONY, thanks.

Kyle- for someone who doesn't want to talk about Kim, you sure do talk a lot about her. Also- that conversation with her supposed beloved aunt could have occurred off camera ON THE PHONE or at the aunt's house. How convenient, let's talk about the supposed ultra private, super sensitive family issue with the miked up aunt we've never seen or heard about. Ok then.

Yolanda. I don't care.

[swankie]

I've never understood Lisa V's continual use of sexual language about Giggy.  She often calls him a sex monster and then kisses him on the lips, and tonight she commented on how sexy he looks in his pink pajamas.  Has she not seen these moments on camera and realized how odd it sounds?  She's definitely veered into "eccentric" territory with that pup.

 

I'm thinking Giggy may be short for Gigolo.  That's the only thing I can come up with.  Of course, she called the damn swan sexy too so.....

[chick binewski]

Yes, Kyle is so discomfited about summarizing her bestie's past tell-all cash-in exploits because the OJ affair (oops, I wrote 'affair'; where's Eileen and the diction police?) was "creepy" but she can't wait to breathlessly speculate about whether or not Kathryn knows Faye not five minutes after Kathryn materialized.

THIS. Kyle is such a tenth-grade shit-stirrer with the fake friends and the fake crying. You have no connection with Kathryn, Kyle. One of your awesome besties wrote a book exploiting another friend's murder in which Kathryn received a tangential mention so as to make the author's viewpoint seem more credible. Also, a summer pop-up store in the Hamptons is NOTHING like a leased location in NYC. Take Bethenny and your Beach Birkin and your BS over to your new show so I don't have to watch you on RH.

 

And I agree with LilaFowler regarding LVP's coldness. I truly believe she puts her head on her pillow and sleeps like a baby. I don't think she has too many worries because she spends her days demanding what she wants and that leaves little time for self-reflection. Although she still manages to throw her less favorite child Max under the bus ONE MORE TIME.

 

Gah - I just could not stand Kyle, LVP or Lisar this week. I've already made my feelings about Yolanda known, but all I could think when she was on Erika's plane was how incredibly shitty I always felt after any surgery and I have a chronic illness. Maybe my constitution is too delicate, maybe Yo has tremendous resolve, or maybe she's just a big ol' bullshitter. Why else would she be trying to sell David Foster as the most fabulous (non-present) caregiver ever?

 

Yikes I'm cranky at 3am, so I'll say something nice. Camille looked freaking fabulous on WWHL. Losing the over bleached hair, the rotisserie chicken tan and Kelsey Grammer really works for her. 

[Giselle]

I'm thinking Giggy may be short for Gigolo.  That's the only thing I can come up with.  Of course, she called the damn swan sexy too so.....

 

LisaV's pet sex schtick is getting old. Guess one can't teach the bitch new tricks.

[DebbieM4]

9000+ explant surgeries and Our Lady of Lemons, Yolanda Hadid-Foster was the worst one by far. Of course! 

Let's not forget this woman "broke her back" during childbirth. Cannot wait for LVP to call ¥oFo out for alleging her two spawn that aren't international modeling sensations are likewise inflicted with the Lyme's.

 

And let's not forget that she said the "the worst part" of being so ill was knowing what people were saying and that they didn't believe her.  Seriously, that was the worst part!???  She claimed to be so ill, so brain dead, so unable to do even the simplest things, so weak that she had to be confined to bed for months at a time, so miserable that she contemplated throwing herself off her balcony.  And what other people were saying was the worst part?

 

I've been pretty sick myself, and for me the worst part was feeling crappy.   Followed by worry about being a burden to my children and the impact it was having on them.  And a host of other things.  It is just so typical Yolanda to be thinking of her public image above all else.  She is most definitely not a smart woman.  She reveals who she really is over and over again, and she isn't smart enough to see that.  My bullshit barometer goes higher and higher every time she opens her mouth.

[Maharincess]

Did I hear right that it was 105 degrees out and those poor dogs were in sweaters? Please tell me I didn't hear that correctly. If that's true and LisaV knew about it, maybe she isn't quite the animal lover she thinks she is.

[Maharincess]

Yolanda once asked "what means 'goad'?" Sure her English pronunciation could be better, but her vocabulary is good enough 99% of the time. Learning and using a lot of obscure or big words is just going to make her look even more pretentious.

Heh heh, I couldn't agree more. She looks pretentious enough.

[kokapetl]

How does the production for these shows work? This episode seemed to have been put together after a sudden realization that the previous episodes in the season sucked. Erika seemed a little uncomfortable meeting the new "new housewife", as though she felt Kathryn was signed on because Erika didn't quite deliver.

Great to see Yolanda's screen time limited to like 2 minutes.

[imjagain]

Goad. Yolanda asked, "what is to goad."

What are they lying about and for the record-what a dumbass poll question.

It really was a ridiculous question. Is Kyle lying that she loves her husband, that she has a troubled sister, has issues with her oldest sister? I think she has been pretty upfront about all that.

I didn't see Kyle "lose her cool", I saw her laughing and ask what am I lying about? Exactly my thought.

If I were Yo, I'd be upset that Andy just had to point out that she came in second. I saw the question as very shady towards Yo, with all chatter of Yo's health, I think Andy thought Yo would win the liar contest.

Why did I need see those skinny girl bottles again?

I felt horrible for Eileen.

So the ladies have been talking about Brandi? Bravo just hasn't focused on it, lol.

Edited January 20, 2016 by imjagain

[Snappy]

Kyle - the only reason she is on this show is "Kim". Despite Kyle's claims of being a child actress, no one would have known who she was without having Kim by her side. Now, she wants to forbid everyone from bringing up Kim's name. Given everything Kim did, and the fact it was all so public, it's perfectly natural for it to be discussed.

LisaR - Is her favorite food waffles? That's all she does on any topic, waffle. Pick a side and stick with it instead of trying to play all angles. Someone is going to disagree with her no matter what so she needs to put on her big girl panties and own it. BORING this season!

Eileen - speaking of BORING... I really liked her last season but between action "holier than thou" because someone asked about her relationship with her husband (SHE was the one who fooled around with a married man!) and trying to garner sympathy (Anyone else feel the timing of her shared secret was odd?) I've lost interest.

Erika - I've totally done a turn around. I love her. Breath of fresh air.

Lisa VP - eh. She looks better in the talking heads. In the show she seems mumsy in both looks and behavior.mmaybe Ken is rubbing of on her. It's like 2 different people between BH and VP Rules.

Yolanda - what a TOPPER! Has to be " the best, worst, sickest, most loving, etc.) than anyone else in the world. There isn't a superlative this woman doesn't love! Yawn! Didn't need to be in the show at all. BORING!

Faye- yuck!

Kathryn - time will tell