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[CountryGirl]

Oh, that look Steffy gave Finn.

I'm surprised he is still alive after that.

And are we sure he's a doctor because he seems like a big dummy (TM Fred Sandford) to me.

And Zende has Paris' number. 

[Anna Yolei]

3 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

I am always willing to give the benefit of the doubt, but I cannot do that any longer with Finn. OK, you want to forgive Steffy for stepping out with Liam? That was your stupid decision; maybe her iron plated cooter was more than you could give up, but at the end of the day the only person you were hurting was yourself. In the instance of Sheila though? No, your dimwitted dumbness could cause harm to many; including your own son.

Yep! I've seen the argument that Steffy should give him the same chance he gave her but that's an entirely apples-to-oranges comparison here. That reasoning worked for Bridget after she banged her same-age FIL on one grief-striken night after multiple instances of Nick banging her family and impregnating her aunt--and she only asked once. Not so much when the wife has given him a rather abridged but still horrifying about of the things she's done to every member of her family. I wish they'd found a way to bring Rick back to the wedding so he could tell this shitgibbon about how she used her own daughter to worm her way back into the Forresters' lives.

Sucks that Finn rolled a 00 on the maternity roulette but he's got children to think about. That includes Kelly--i haven't forgotten about him trying to lay down the law to Liam about that. I don't doubt the inevitable confrontation about that will be setting up a Steam reunion for the future because Brad Bell hates his audience like that, but taken at face value, it'll be entirely deserved.

[Runningwild]

I just can’t anymore with Finn. Looks only get you so far and your new haircut lessens your hot privilege. He is too dumb for words. I understand he wasn’t a part of all the previous Sheila shenanigans, but his wife and in-laws were. 
 

With Dummer (Y&R) in Milan, Finn is the dumbest soap character. He is Dimm. 

[hypnotoad]

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Finn is the dumbest soap character. He is Dimm

To me this is the biggest issue - the writers writing Dimm so dim. How much more interesting would the story be if Dimm was actually listening to his wife and in laws and Sheila would have to be fighting for his attention? Or if he at least was on the fence about everything and doing some basic research? This immediate acceptance and jump to calling Sheila mom is just dumb. All the way around.

It's sad we spend more time on these idiotic storylines than the writers actually do - writers who get paid for this dreck.

[sugarbaker design]

38 minutes ago, hypnotoad said:

This immediate acceptance and jump to calling Sheila mom is just dumb.

So dumb, he already calls someone Mom.

39 minutes ago, hypnotoad said:

It's sad we spend more time on these idiotic storylines than the writers actually do - writers who get paid for this dreck.

So true.

[Foghorn Leghorn]

I agree RunTheTable…John McCook’s facial hair is a turn off for me too.  Not a fan of it.  But the thing that bugs me more about him is his lower jaw jutting out and I think he has false teeth which could be causing that.  It keeps getting worse and reminds me of my grandfather talking after he took his dentures out to soak!  Lol  I understand dental implants prevent that.  Maybe I am the only one to notice!  

And Eric sitting behind a fake palm tree inside his own house to listen in on Quinn and Shauna made him look needy and feeble.  And why isn’t Viagra working for him?  

 

 

[CountryGirl]

16 minutes ago, Foghorn Leghorn said:

And why isn’t Viagra working for him?  

 

 

Because the plot called for it...not to.

[TobinAlbers]

Paris actually hauled her booty to the hospital to see Finn when she heard what happened to Sheila?! Lawd, that girl is Thirsty with a capital 'T'.

LMAO at Sheila play acting her 'awakening' since Steffy was getting on her nerves and then lowering the boom on revealing the heart emoji to Steffy. 

I'm at the point of just sitting back and enjoying the ride on Finn's fall as he has way too many people telling him Sheila's game and he's being willfully dumb about the games she's playing. He doesn't find it convenient that just as he was telling her to kick rocks, she 'faints' and is suddenly in a health crisis? C'mon now.

Re Eric's 'bedroom issues' Viagra isn't the end all be all for ED problems and can actually be a bad idea if other health concerns are at play.  The show is intentionally keeping the actual issue vague, but it seems like there may be a psychological component similar to when Ridge couldn't draw after his helicopter accident. Maybe all Eric needs is the right woman to help him over the hump. Enter Donna....

[Anna Yolei]

2 hours ago, hypnotoad said:

To me this is the biggest issue - the writers writing Dimm so dim. How much more interesting would the story be if Dimm was actually listening to his wife and in laws and Sheila would have to be fighting for his attention? Or if he at least was on the fence about everything and doing some basic research? This immediate acceptance and jump to calling Sheila mom is just dumb. All the way around.

Right. Like, Sheila should have to WORK at this a little bit more. It was neat having a non-fidelity (and non Liam ralated) source of conflict but the stupid is burning my brain at this point. Make it stop ಠ︵ಠ

2 hours ago, sugarbaker design said:

So dumb, he already calls someone Mom

For contrast, the scene where Ridge says to Massimo "Father, I want you to leave" after a heated conflict and how devestated Eric was to hear that (even though in context Ridge was clearly pissed as Mossimo coming between him and Eric) was so fun powerful. Say what one will about the Pandora's box of pairings that came out afterwards, but I stand by that the fallout of the reveal was the second-best story B&B ever did, next to Brooke gaining control of FC (I'm sitting at a table for one on that, but eh).

[Waldo13]

I can’t believe I’m saying this but Finn can’t get any dumber and Stuffy couldn’t be more right.  But right or wrong, Sheila is the 🪰 in the in the ointment the 🐝 in their bonnet and I’m smiling ear to ear. 

Paris must have made skid mark getting to Finn that fast.  

Question:  Do know of anyone who doesn’t have a security code on their phone?  
 

One last word on Eric’s ED. ED doesn’t curtail sexual desire and does not keep a man from having an orgasm and ejaculation from a flaccid penis.  ED is just that a man can’t get or keep an erection. 

[Anna Yolei]

31 minutes ago, Waldo13 said:

I can’t believe I’m saying this but Finn can’t get any dumber

At this point, I'm afraid Bell's spies might read this and consider it a challenge 🤣

How? How do you make a character that is less spineless than Liam and even more stupid than Summer Newman? That shouldn't even be possible and it's not even charming dumbassery of the himbo variety.

And no, Brad, purposely sabotaging your blank slate character isn't going to make anyone happy to have Lame pushed Steffy's way in another six months so jot that down.

[Artsda]

Finn's too stupid and wow Paris racing to his side. She's embarassing.

 

[Gam2]

This story line with Finn, Steffy, Sheila and Paris is mind numbing. If this isn’t the ultimate example of the writers disdain for the viewers of this show, I don’t know what will ever be. Shame on them and shame on us for watching. 

[lightninggirl]

12 minutes ago, Artsda said:

Finn's too stupid and wow Paris racing to his side. She's embarassing.

 

Now I'm beginning to think that wardrobe hates Paris. Her outfits are typically a little off-kilter and always inappropriate for the workplace (which is fun IMHO as it's just a dumb soap), but today they found the most geriatric bra they could and then let the straps out all the way. That was awful.

[CountryGirl]

50 minutes ago, Artsda said:

Finn's too stupid and wow Paris racing to his side. She's embarassing.

 

She’s thirstier than her older sister, which I didn’t think was possible. 

[Foghorn Leghorn]

Yep, Paris ran the 100 yard dash to get to Finn!  And does she even have a bra on??  Doesn’t look like it, they are hanging almost to her waist!  

The actor playing Finn is such a terrible actor, today was the worst ever. 

 

[Anna Yolei]

3 hours ago, Gam2 said:

This story line with Finn, Steffy, Sheila and Paris is mind numbing. If this isn’t the ultimate example of the writers disdain for the viewers of this show, I don’t know what will ever be. Shame on them and shame on us for watching. 

I can name at least three examples ahead of this, such as the way Brooke/Thorne ended abruptly, after the pairing was presumed to have had a body count in its way to "destiny". That one felt like a huge betrayal, probably bc I was a teenager who hadn't watched Brooke toss away other men for Ridge multiple times yet. But I felt angry because of the time and energy put in to making us believe this was a real, viable new direction for both Brooke and Thorne (whose relationship with Macy was never a fairy tale as show would have us believe, before or especially after Brooke).

This was just dull and banal from day one and no one bought this as anything but the most temporary of fixes for the ToD Bell wants to tell, as evidenced by the set up for boring ass Pinn. Other than exasperation at the ToD being revisited yet again, I feel nothing aside from a headache at Teh Stoopid™. 

Edited September 9, 2021 by Anna Yolei

[RuntheTable]

Steffy's epic eyeroll when Finn was telling her that people don't pass out for no reason; what does it say when the doctor's wife knows more than the doctor?

Well, Steffy saw the emoji response; what will compound that is Finn never mentioned Sheila's text. Then, she will find out Paris has known about it all along. OOPSY!

And just look at Paris cutting Zende and her employer off at the knees. Gotta get to that hospital to keep paving the way for Finn to want a relationship with me. 

What they should have done is have everyone show up at the hospital and just badger the mother fucking hell out of Sheila. That would have popped her cork, and she would have given herself away. Unfortunately Steffy allowed herself to be played by Sheila too; she should never have engaged in that conversation when she knew Sheila was listening. She should have corralled her dumbass husband out of that room and talked to him. She just gave Sheila a lot of ammo because Finn is too stupid to live. 

I am ready for Steffy to move on. I can't believe I feel anything for her, but even she doesn't deserve this level of dumb. 

Edited September 9, 2021 by RuntheTable

[CountryGirl]

JMW facial expressions are the only thing worth watching of late.

Although something nagged at my memory a little bit. 

Oh yes, I remember now.

Bill could have killed Ridge when he dropped him into the Persian Gulf, but Steffy still rode that Stallion years later. Obviously doesn't stack up against Sheila's rapsheet but a tiny bit of hypocrisy nonetheless. 

Elsewhere, I'm surprised Paris' knockers didn't knock her out in her mad dash to get to her precious Finn.

[Waldo13]

1 hour ago, CountryGirl said:

Elsewhere, I'm surprised Paris' knockers didn't knock her out in her mad dash to get to her precious Finn.

At least give her two black eyes 😵‍

Edited September 9, 2021 by Waldo13

[smartyshorts]

The Stupid... it burnsssss. 

Stuffy has seen multiple times now that Finn has been huffing paint and killing brain cells, she needs to cut bait and run. Tell Liam that she needs to protect herself and the kids...pack up and get to a safe house. 

Tell Dimm and his Mommy Dearest to enjoy their reunion and if Dimm needs to contact her about visitation... here is her lawyer's number. 

Why doesn't Eric just put a tracker on Quinn? Then he can listen to her conversations all day from the comfort of his own sad couch. 

If Sheila could do ONE thing while she is here...And kill Paris (and Flo, if she has some extra poison or bullets ) on her way out with her Norman Bates Son.. that would be greeeeat

Edited September 9, 2021 by smartyshorts

[CharlizeCat]

The dumbest SL ever. I guess they got the casting right to portray Finn as dull and clueless. As a doctor, he should be the first to know that if all of Sheila's vitals, etc., look good, then WHY IS HE KEEPING HER IN THE HOSPITAL?  Typical protocol is to hydrate them and send them home, then to call their primary care doctor if there are repeat fainting episodes or if other unusual symptoms appear.

Isn't it borderline unethical for physicians to treat family members?  Finn had to stop being Steffy's doctor. 

Zende needs to dump Paris. But maybe before he cuts her loose, he could design a bra for her. That look yesterday in the weird paintbrush pantsuit and white clingy top was BAD. BAD. BAD. 

 

[Crashcourse]

Finn is acting stupid but I kinda feel sorry for him because that is his mother, and he doesn't want to believe that she could be the evil, dangerous witch that Steffy knows she is. 

I don't mind of they break up though, because I'd like to see him and Paris together.  I wanna see what he does with those boobs. 

[Waldo13]

Paris Paris Paris, mind your god darn own business.  Your at the point were your being as detestable as your sister and close to being as detestable as Lurch. 

Yes, Shiela give Stuffy hell and do what you have to to drive Stuffy and Ridge.  But I’m calling what Shiela did to cause her monitor to beep is bull shit.  It’s beeping because of a low oxygen monitor. 

That text is also bull shit. Stuffy is making a big deal out of an emoji.  If Finn texted back I Love You, that would be a problem. 

 

[Artsda]

Steffy literally said the line "did you send her a heart emoji." Lol

If Finn continues to be around Sheila. Steffy needs to leave him, take the kid and sue for full custody.

Finn grew up with a loving mother. He shouldn't be this desperate for sociopath mommy Sheila. 

 

[CharlizeCat]

If that's the way Steffy talks to Finn, I can only imagine how she's going to speak to Kelly and Hayes when they are older. If she's not ordering them around all ready.

The confrontation about the text and heart emoji was hilarious!

How many more excuses is Paris going to need to keep hugging Finn? Big sister schooled her well.

I agree that Sinn needs to just not sign their marriage certificate or whatever, and call it a day.

 

[ByaNose]

At least, casting found an actor who can actually play dumb & clueless looking rolled into one. The actor just looks soooo stupid between KB & JMW. I can’t even get into the storyline because he’s so dumb looking. Steffy could kick his ass easily. I suggest killing him off so Sheila & Steffy can battle it out afterwards. 

[RuntheTable]

Steffy needs to cut her losses and get out while the getting is still good. Once Steffy is out of the picture and Sheila has lost her inroad to the Forrester family, Finn will realize what he should already know. Sheila's love and desire for a relationship with him will fly out the window, and she will be constantly badgering him about getting back with Steffy. But, this is what the dolt wants, so let him and his mommy ride off into the sunset. 

And watching him trying to keep up with Sheila and Steffy is a hoot. 

I never thought I would see a SL whose foundation was a heart emoji. 

Sheila thinks it means he loves her; HA! I see emojis as the lazy way to respond and also for those who want to argue a point but have no defense. 

Fucking emojis and fucking:

Restraining orders, restraining orders, restraining orders! Here, I got a restraining order for ya that will actually accomplish something:

How many times has Eric heard Quinn confessing feelings for Carter? This SL is bordering on something foul. It is making me hella uncomfortable. 

Paris keeps hugging Finn in that braless shirt. 

Edited September 10, 2021 by RuntheTable

[FancyRhubarb]

On 9/9/2021 at 12:42 PM, Anna Yolei said:

But I felt angry because of the time and energy put in to making us believe this was a real, viable new direction for both Brooke and Thorne (whose relationship with Macy was never a fairy tale as show would have us believe, before or especially after Brooke).

That was so absurd. On Monday Brooke was deliriously happy and content with Thorne, on Wednesday she had an epiphany that she really loved Ridge and Thorne was a placeholder and by Friday she'd left Thorne and gone to Ridge's door to declare her love. 

[norcalgal]

15 hours ago, Artsda said:

Finn grew up with a loving mother. He shouldn't be this desperate for sociopath mommy Sheila. 

THIS! THIS! THIS!  I can understand Finn being desperate to connect with Sheila if:

1) he grew up motherless; or

2) grew up abused by whoever played the mother role in his life

BUT NEITHER OF THESE HAPPENED!  

If anyone on this forum is comfortable talking about it publically, if you were adopted, but raised by a loving/supportive mom, can you talk about how you'd approach a birth mom who suddenly came into your life (esp. if people are telling you about all the horrific things your birth mom did)?  

[Cool Breeze]

How is Paris supposed to be any sort of romantic love interest?  Around Finn, she's just so  ridiculously awkward.  She just looks like a fifteen-year-old girl crushing on her (much) older brother's friend.  And we're supposed to think this could be threat to Steffy's marriage?  Gross.

[Crashcourse]

I see nothing gross about Paris being with Finn.  I'd rather see them than Quin and Carter, who might as well have a padlock on his penis with Eric having the key.  

[Anna Yolei]

14 hours ago, CharlizeCat said:

If that's the way Steffy talks to Finn, I can only imagine how she's going to speak to Kelly and Hayes when they are older. If she's not ordering them around all ready.

If the kids are anything like Steffy herself when Taylor was demanding she not go after Bill, it'll go over like a lead balloon.

As for Paris...yawn. But I will say after watching  Y&R for the first time in ages, I'm more forgiving of her boobage after getting an eyeful of Michelle Stafford's girls on display because Phyllis has to be the sexiest sexy to ever sexayed. Paris' are more covered up and just need a good support, which gets hard to find after a certain size.

Her stupidity with Finn, however, I am more than happy to drag her on--and her hypocrisy. Boy, do I have Katie Logan vibes circa 2007, preachifying about Donna marrying Thorne for the wrong reasons, then schlepping Nick barely six months later. I knew it was coming because it always does for that type, but damn, is this the best we can do? Epic fail.

[Cool Breeze]

I absolutely cannot believe this show is going to make Carter Quinn's stud and Eric a cuckold.  Actually couldn't care less about the second part but the former has to be some of the most tone-deaf grossness, with horrific racist undertones, I think I've seen on this show.  Is Eric going to watch too?  I mean, really?  This is beyond disgusting.

[Angeleyes]

The optics of today’s show with the Eric and Quarter triangle were just not good today. Why did they have to have Carter shirtless in a scene at work right before Eric summons him over to service his wife. That’s not okay. 
 

I’m glad Finn told Sheila that he can’t have her in his life, but he shouldn’t have added the equivocation that it was because his wife couldn’t handle it. He also should have said that Dad and Mom raised him instead of Dad and Li. That’s so disrespectful to the only mother he’s known. 

[Waldo13]

Quinn, loved the dress hate the hair.  

 

Finn chooses Stuffy and I’m sure Paris is going to be very unhappy. 

 

OK, so Eric wants Carter to “service” Quinn?  It’s ok with me but if Eric wants to watch, that’s where I draw the line. 

[hypnotoad]

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OK, so Eric wants Carter to “service” Quinn?

But why does Eric need this? Is Eric not the kind of dude that goes down on his wife?!? Plus there are many toys out there that can be used in place of his non-functioning equipment. Don't get me wrong - I want Quinn and Carter together and they are my preference. I just don't want it like this.

Plus:

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has to be some of the most tone-deaf grossness, with horrific racist undertones, I think I've seen on this show. 

Agreed.

Certainly I haven't seen a storyline like this on a soap - at least that i can remember offhand - but still. Come on.

[KittyQ]

Eric, Quinn, Carter: ????

So many things wrong with this. I suppose Eric thinks he's being "generous" to Quinn by giving her permission to have sex with someone other than him, but that had to be the most awkward way of doing this. First, he never actually talked with Quinn about this as a solution or at least a workaround. Second, he gets to choose who his "proxy" would be (I find this kind of icky). Plus, he chooses the guy his wife was having an affair with making the whole thing kind of creepy. After all, Quinn chose Eric over Carter, so roping Carter into this weird thing seems, well - weird. Third, he decides that the best way to implement this plan is to have a nice romantic evening with Quinn and then call Carter over at the point where typically Eric and Quinn would go upstairs to make love. As if Carter is a stunt man! Eww. 

I don't know if this kind of arrangement is something that other couples would be ok with, but setting it up this way just seems too creepy and icky. This isn't even considering the fairly tasteless echoes of the kind of interracial sex material that used black men as objects of fantasy for white people. 

 

[Crashcourse]

I've lost all respect for John McCook, Rena Sofer and Lawrence Saint-Victor for agreeing to participate in this racist storyline that's developing.  From the beginning of this story, I never liked how Carter was portrayed like a side of shirtless Mandingo beef--and he went along with it.  I know they're under contract and want to get paid, but I have a feeling that if they'd objected, we wouldn't be subjected to this mess. 

And I hope they get a lot of negative feedback.

Edited September 10, 2021 by Crashcourse

[hypnotoad]

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I've lost all respect for John McCook, Rena Sofer and Lawrence Saint-Victor for agreeing to participate in this racist storyline that's developing. 

I'm very much hoping Carter's response will be no obviously but also admitting he cannot because he has actual feelings for Quinn. Of course with these writers ...

[Crashcourse]

Also, even though I've never been a fan of "Quarter," I could get behind them if they told Eric to go fuck himself (since he can't fuck anyone else), affirm that they truly love each other (besides the sex), and go off together to start a new life.  They don't need Eric.   

[Gam2]

54 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

I've lost all respect for John McCook, Rena Sofer and Lawrence Saint-Victor for agreeing to participate in this racist storyline that's developing.  From the beginning of this story, I never liked how Carter was portrayed like a side of shirtless Mandingo beef--and he went along with it.  I know they're under contract and want to get paid, but I have a feeling that if they'd objected, we wouldn't be subjected to this mess. 

And I hope they get a lot of negative feedback.

Of all of the stupid, insulting story lines on all of the soaps in history, this is the one that fries my brain. I absolutely will not watch another episode of this show if the writers and actors continue to dumb down B&B and us. 

[Anna Yolei]

2 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

I've lost all respect for John McCook, Rena Sofer and Lawrence Saint-Victor for agreeing to participate in this racist storyline that's developing.  From the beginning of this story, I never liked how Carter was portrayed like a side of shirtless Mandingo beef--and he went along with it.  I know they're under contract and want to get paid, but I have a feeling that if they'd objected, we wouldn't be subjected to this mess. 

And I hope they get a lot of negative feedback.

I still say the onus falls on Brad Bell and CBS for giving the go-ahead. Especially the latter, who has been getting railed on since the 90s about the racism across the board on all their shows. It's certainly possible that they spoke up and Bell didn't care, just like he didn't care about the optics of Liam being violated for a second time and had Clifton do damage control ahead of Molly Night. From what recall everyone top to bottom hated the Ridget thing other than Jennifer Flanagan and the one who got through to him on that was his mother.

Knowing what I know about the production of some major studio projects, not even being a big name actor or director is enough to get one's way, even in situations like this. And we know how Bell shat on Ronn Moss on his way out.

While I hope people at all level would be uncomfortable with this after the past year, at the end of the day, the buck doesn't stop with them and they don't get a say in whether story ideas are screened by the many, many, many sensitivity readers out there.

[Crashcourse]

6 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

I still say the onus falls on Brad Bell and CBS for giving the go-ahead. Especially the latter, who has been getting railed on since the 90s about the racism across the board on all their shows. It's certainly possible that they spoke up and Bell didn't care, just like he didn't care about the optics of Liam being violated for a second time and had Clifton do damage control ahead of Molly Night. From what recall everyone top to bottom hated the Ridget thing other than Jennifer Flanagan and the one who got through to him on that was his mother.

Knowing what I know about the production of some major studio projects, not even being a big name actor or director is enough to get one's way, even in situations like this. And we know how Bell shat on Ronn Moss on his way out.

While I hope people at all level would be uncomfortable with this after the past year, at the end of the day, the buck doesn't stop with them and they don't get a say in whether story ideas are screened by the many, many, many sensitivity readers out there.

 

I have to respectfully disagree, because if all three had objected - especially John McCook - I think that would have made an impression on the CBS execs.

[Angeleyes]

If they wanted to go this route then it should have just been Eric and Quinn having a discussion about having an open relationship and Eric not wanting to hold her back. For Eric to make this decision for the three of them unilaterally is just gross especially after ordering Carter to stay away from Quinn in order to keep his job. A summons like this would definitely feel like there would be pressure for Carter to say yes.

[Anna Yolei]

15 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

 

I have to respectfully disagree, because if all three had objected - especially John McCook - I think that would have made an impression on the CBS execs.

You underestimate the stupidity and tone-deafness of Hollywood execs. As one example, during all the showboating on BLM last year, JJ Abrams was the only exec whose resource guide against supremacy was compiled with the input of black employees and came out to 20 pages. My friend in PR for his studio got an email from another studio head whining that it was too long and maybe they could just have a few more bbqs to get along better?

This was far from the first story I'd heard from her about this level of cluelessness. Don't get me started about the fights Abrams had just getting John Boyega cast because Kathleen Kennedy felt they had enough diversity with a female lead (disclaimer: I am not a Fandom Menace for anyone remotely familiar with that fanbase)

I'm black and I have no vested interest in defending the actors one way or the other. But I will say the Hollywood grind is real and exists and even if all three had striked or protested, if the studio said do the job, they'd either have to do it or quit. There's a whole industry that needs fixing from top down.

All that said, there's nothing preventing them from doing a sick-out like Susan Flannery did after that horrible Andy rape story. Amazing that her illness had never flared up enough to take her off the show for that long before or since! 🤔

15 hours ago, Angeleyes said:

If they wanted to go this route then it should have just been Eric and Quinn having a discussion about having an open relationship and Eric not wanting to hold her back. For Eric to make this decision for the three of them unilaterally is just gross especially after ordering Carter to stay away from Quinn in order to keep his job. A summons like this would definitely feel like there would be pressure for Carter to say yes.

That's the other shitty part of this in-universe: once again, a man makes a decision with no input on what his wife actually wants. There's no communication at all.

It they'd had an actual open relation that all three were in the loop on--as it was all but stated was happening with Jackie, Owen and Bridget back in the day, somewhat--that would be one thing. Frankly, I welcome any deviation from the ridiculous love triangles that Show so heavily leans on. But this whole thing after the fact just reeks of Eric saving face more than giving a shit about Quinn.

This is why the genre continues to march towards it's grave. *Sigh*

17 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

Also, even though I've never been a fan of "Quarter," I could get behind them if they told Eric to go fuck himself (since he can't fuck anyone else), affirm that they truly love each other (besides the sex), and go off together to start a new life.  They don't need Eric.   

Lol at "he can't fuck anything else" 🤣😭

Yes to all of this.

Edited September 11, 2021 by Anna Yolei

[Waldo13]

5 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

I've lost all respect for John McCook, Rena Sofer and Lawrence Saint-Victor for agreeing to participate in this racist storyline that's developing.  From the beginning of this story, I never liked how Carter was portrayed like a side of shirtless Mandingo beef--and he went along with it.  I know they're under contract and want to get paid, but I have a feeling that if they'd objected, we wouldn't be subjected to this mess. 

And I hope they get a lot of negative feedback.

I’m glad you brought this up about being a racist story line. 

If what Eric has in mind for Quinn and Carter than I’m calling out TIIC for reenacting the practice of plantation owners before and during the Civil War. The plantation owner and his wife would generally sleep in separate rooms. The plantation owner would have a concubine to sleep with him as a bed warmer and for sexual pleasure and perform “acts” that their wives, who were considered pure, were not supposed to do.  The wives would sneak “the big strong male plantation workers”, into their bed to perform “sexually pleasurable acts” that the wives were not supposed to enjoy. The difference was that the wife would know about the concubine but the husband could never know about his wife’s activities.  I’m being PC here and I’m not saying that every but quite a few plantation owner followed this practice. 

 

[ByaNose]

I think it’s funny everyone is outraged and clutching their pearls over the Eric, Quinn & Carter storyline. He can’t have sex and he wants his wife to have sex and have it be in the open. First off, it’s a soap. Secondly, it’s not like these aren’t concerning adults. Thirdly, don’t people on soaps cheat behind their spouses and partner all the time?! Now, it’s just gonna be in the open….potentially. Also, it never occurred to me that it was racist. I guess I’m behind the times on that angle. 

[CharlizeCat]

I hate the way Eric talks to and talks about Quinn. It makes her sound like she's some kind of depraved bitch in constant heat. The whole situation now is just so gross. I hope that Carter and Quinn turn the suggestion down flat. 

[hypnotoad]

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I still say the onus falls on Brad Bell and CBS for giving the go-ahead

I have to agree with you on this. Generally, actors really don't have much control over the storylines written for their characters.

When the writers had Sally Spectra pregnant back in the day, Darlene Conley was not happy about it (my brother was married to her niece, so I heard about it through that grapevine). She thought it was ridiculous at her age and let's face it, it wasn't as though it was remotely possible for Sally to be that much younger than the actress playing her! Long story short, she expressed her unhappiness but she was still stuck with the story.

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He can’t have sex and he wants his wife to have sex and have it be in the open

Except he can indeed have sex with his wife. Sex doesn't require a penis! Tongue, fingers and toys are all available as alternatives. It's just stupid. And sorry but there very much is a racist undertone to this - it's the whole Mandingo thing.

But as someone mentioned above, why not have Eric discuss this with Quinn first and then they both bring the proposition to Carter? Explaining, they are going to have an open relationship going forward? Discussing ground rules etc like adults?