B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat

[Gam2]

This entire show is so dumbed down that we must all be bored out of our minds from Covid that we’ll even waste our time watching this. So sad for us all.

[Waldo13]

Is Carter that needy?  Carter is the prime example of the Elvis Presley song “Fools Rush In”.  First with Maya and than with Zoey.  

Bill begging Katie to forgive him and he still maintains his manliness where Liam begs like a petulant child who got caught fucking the maid. 

 

Paris, tell Zoey to go fuck herself and the horse she rode in on.  What a remorseless bitch. 

In my humble opinion, the only couple that has the slightest bit chemistry is Eric and Quinn.  I just love the way Quinn looks at him.  One other couple that might have some chemistry is Lurch and his mannequin. They are good together because they both have zero personality. 

[MsTree]

17 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

I think the writers took some liberties with the technicalities but basically the text was stuck in Zende's phone because his phone was jammed full of old stuff. Once he restored his phone to it's original clean state, there was then enough free memory or storage space whatever for the phone to send the text. It happens IRL, for a variety of reasons.

Thanks for the explanation...and I could see how that might happen. But wouldn't Zende see that his text was never sent? That it's still there in limbo? Or is this the liberty you mentioned that the writers took?

[Joimiaroxeu]

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But wouldn't Zende see that his text was never sent? That it's still there in limbo? Or is this the liberty you mentioned that the writers took?

He did see that it didn't go, not long after he tried to send it. There was a moment where he was staring at the "undelivered" message on his phone and kind of becoming resigned to fate being against him. He didn't think Zoe would ever see it.

[CountryGirl]

On 1/25/2021 at 11:06 PM, Anna Yolei said:

As if inappropriate boundaries ever stopped anyone on this show, much less anyone in the Logan bloodline 😛

 

Tis true although I’d give the nod to Taylor and hoe, ahem, heir apparent Steffy in the sleeping their way through a family sweepstakes. 

Taylor slept with Ridge, Thorne, Nick, and there was something something with Eric. She also had the Logan trifecta of Stephen, Storm and Rick. She also slept with her ex (Blake) and Ridge in the same day, not bothering to shower in between. 

Steffy discarded Marcus for her twin’s ex, who was also her stepbrother, and has worked her way through the Spencer men  sans Will, but that’s only a matter of time and SORASing. 

[RuntheTable]

It is a rarified day when I find myself being on board with Ridge, but yesterday was one of those days. And it isn't even about Ridge having his buddy's back, because Carter is absolutely his own worst enemy in the woman/love department. Can't he remember that Maya gave him the same look when he asked her to marry him? Can't he remember how Maya dodged setting a date? This guy is needy and thirsty, so no, it isn't about Ridge helping out his pal; it is about checking Zoey. I do find it ironic though, that Ridge is the person who can see what is going on; I guess a rat can smell a rat. 

About Zoey; what is this chick's deal? To brazenly tell Zende that she wants to test his waters before she marries Carter? One thing is for sure; she certainly has an overblown sense of self worth, and is one entitled little trick. 

Zende! I totally appreciated him pulling out his loud voice, and telling Zoey he would not betray his friend. I like this new Zende, and I hope he continues to have some integrity, and doesn't cave to Zoey's pleas. Let's see what Uncle Ridge has to say to him, maybe Ridge's suspicions will help Zende stay strong. 

It seemed like they were doing a little chem testing on Donna and Carter the other day. Strange, since these two characters have been on the canvas for years, and I have never considered pairing them up, but they could be really hot together. And the thing about Donna, is when she gives someone her heart, that is the only person for her. She is a bit flakey for sure, but she is true to her man. And besides all that; she needs a SL outside of being Hope's babysitter. 

Look at Paris reading her sister like a cheap novel. Paris might be hiding some dark alley's and sharp turns, but I haven't seen any evidence of that, even so, I was shocked when she told Zende about no flirting at work. Come on! This is Forrester Creations, a company who's halls reek of lust and sex! How can we forget about the steam room, and the service elevator, and the communal sex couch in the Designer's Office? But I am gonna score a point for Paris for saying that, and I am also gonna give her a boat load of points for calling out her traitorous sister. Also surprising, is that Paris doesn't appear disgusted with Zoey, so much as she seems worried that Zoey is going to mess up her good life. I continue to like Paris more and more. 

Edited January 27, 2021 by RuntheTable

[CountryGirl]

Whelp, Zoe is back to her stalker, harassing ways.

I cannot wait for her comeuppance and I hope her raggedy ass is run outa town on a rail.

And another day of $ Bill begging Katie to reunite. Please don't make this fine man candy beg anyone, let alone Katie.

As for Batie 4.0? 5.0?

But we have the ultimate irony of ironies with Ridge pontificating about Zende going after Zoe. 

 

[Crashcourse]

As much as I think of Katie as a boring sourpuss, I hope she doesn't take Bill back.  Sure, he might love her, but I never thought he was in love with her and he sees her as a big ol' comfortable pillow he can fall back on.   He might want to go home to her now, but I predict as soon as he gets a whiff of new, hot cootie, he'll fall off the wagon again.  I think Katie's gut is telling her not to take him back, and I hope she follows her gut.  Like she said, she deserves a man who loves and wants her.

I'm tired of big sister/little sister talk between Zoey and Paris.   Paris might turn out to be a good girl but I'm sick of looking at her and that wormy cap that she calls hair, and those inappropriate workplace outfits.   

[Skarzero]

Why is Zoe making shit so complicated? Who told her jumpy ass to rush into things with Carter anyways? This is how wack ass love triangles start (on t.v and in real life) because people can't stand to be single/alone longer than 15 minutes. She could've turned down Carter and focused on her job and tested the waters all she wanted, but instead she wants to be a messy bitch trying to double dip....A damn shame. 

Also Carter is such a waste and I thought the writing for Devon on Y&R was bad at least he's allowed to have standards and use common sense sometimes JFC. I don't like the term simp but that is what Carter is, just because Zoe accepted your proposal doesn't mean she gives a shit about you dude. He doesn't even find her apprehension in setting a date a problem major or minor, I have little sympathy for Carter because like you guys have said already he's been down this road before and he ought to know better by now. 

Ridge shouldn't waste his time talking to Zende because Zende is remaining firm he should go talk to that trick Zoe. I imagine since framing Sally, perpetuating the lie about Beth, opportunistically almost marrying Thomas, and now this he's got more than one bone to pick with her.   

Edited January 27, 2021 by TeamGabi

[nkotb]

The only good thing about Katie & $Bill reuniting, is that the sooner it happens, the sooner they'll break up. I say that because they always break up in spectacular fashion, which means that we'll be seeing $Bill on our screens. What a sad state of this show, when I want to see my favorite character in a loveless situation (again, I think $Bill loves Katie, but I don't think he's been in love with her for years & years), only because I know that the breakup will give him much-deserved screentime. If I wrote this show, & I had DD on salary, I'd have him on every day, reading the newspaper, grabbing a drink at Bikini, visiting Forrester to work on Eye on Fashion, consulting Quinn on making jewelry for a charity auction he's hosting (that's a stretch, but they want us to believe a fine-ass, albeit boring-ass, lawyer like Carter, with a title & connections in LA, can't get a woman who actually loves him, $Bill & Quinn can be in the same scenes). 

[Anna Yolei]

I think Bill hasn't been in love with Katie since their first honeymoon.It's a shame because they did have chemistry in the early days but nowadays, I see them an think what a shame it was that Brad didn't get paired up with Victoria Newman five years sooner.

I'd rather they'd revisit Katie and Ridge again before Batie. And that's saying a lot.

[Crashcourse]

Is Paris the only one working for this so-called foundation?  I would think she'd have at least an administrative assistant working for her.  I know the writers have set it up so that she interacts with Zoey/Zende/Carter/Ridge but they never show her working with anyone else. 

[Foghorn Leghorn]

They never show Paris working PERIOD! Lol

[lightninggirl]

Another day, another episode of Heather Tom crying. 🙄 We're so blessed.

[Joimiaroxeu]

I don't understand what Bill meant when he asked Katie to let him come home. Doesn't Katie live in her own house now, while Bill still lives in the mansion? I don't recall the two of them ever considering Katie's house "home."

Paris, Zoe's little game isn't just disrespectful to you and Carter, it's disrespectful to Zende too. He's just too much of a gentleman to call her out on it.

Ridge, Carter is a grown-ass man. He doesn't need you fixing his romantic failings behind his back. Benjamin Franklin said it best on this coin he invented:

Zende handled Ridge rather calmly. Not sure why he's still covering for Zoe. IMO she's the only one Ridge should be giving the third degree.

AFAIC Katie only needs to say two words to Bill: "Brooke tho?" Because it's guaranteed that if Brooke becomes available again Bill will be galloping back to her while Katie's left eating his dust.

What Zende or Paris need to do is butt dial Carter the next time Zoe starts running her mouth about holding onto him while she's moving on Zende. Carter the fool needs a harsh wakeup call about his fiancée.

Edited January 28, 2021 by Joimiaroxeu

[Skarzero]

They have tested Batie too many times. I was done after Steffy tried to split them up and I was really done after Brill 1.0 they need to let it go. But Katie it was one kiss, not to invalidate her feelings, she sounds like Lame ass Liam and that is not a good look at this point......

Zende you can't really talk to or reason with stank bitches you need some of this:

 

[Waldo13]

About the delayed messages TIIC are taking the poetic language approach.  If a text is not sent, there is a message which Zende got.  The text has to be resent. It will not be sent automatically at least on a I-Phone.  I have a message not sent on my phone and I have reset my phone but the message remain unsent.  

Paris and Zoey arguing is not like sisters but more like Biggs Bunny and Elmer Fudd.  Duck season - Rabbit season.  Carter season - Zende season.  Zoey wants her Carter and Zende too.  If your not sure, than break your engagement because your feelings for Zende are stronger than for Carter. Carter is just Plan B.  

Another person who can just walk into Eric’s house without being announced. The gate guard is as useless as Charlie. For me, Zoey just passed Lurch for being the most reprehensible character.  Liam broke Hope’s heart but Zoey will rip Carter’s heart out and stomp on it than eat it with Farver beans and a nice Chianti  

Bill asks for one more chance but what will happen if Bill is really Kelly’s father 😜. 

 

[CountryGirl]

1 hour ago, lightninggirl said:

Another day, another episode of Heather Tom crying. 🙄 We're so blessed.

And lemme guess - she’ll get another Emmy nom. 🙄

[MsTree]

12 hours ago, TeamGabi said:

Who told her jumpy ass to rush into things with Carter anyways? This is how wack ass love triangles start (on t.v and in real life) because people can't stand to be single/alone longer than 15 minutes.

I don't think it was because she couldn't stand to be single or alone...but more because she is so impressed with Carter being COO, which she can't seem to stop bragging about.

[nkotb]

11 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

And lemme guess - she’ll get another Emmy nom. 🙄

Funny you should mention that, when she breezed in the other day, bearing gifts, I was trying to remember the last time we'd seen her. I legit think it was last summer, right after they resumed. I may be wrong, but I don't think we've seen her beyond that. She was in an office with Carter (at Forrester), & I think $Bill came in, but I'm not 100% sure. It's been a while, though, so I'd be livid if she received an Emmy nom, unless she does a ton of difficult work in the next few months. 

I was also trying to remember if Hope & FeLOny have shared a scene, since the slap heard 'round the world. I don't think they have, but maybe when Katie received her transplant, & Shauna wheeled Flo in to the room to take the credit. It jolted me for Liam to share a scene with her. 

[CRT]

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Funny you should mention that, when she breezed in the other day, bearing gifts, I was trying to remember the last time we'd seen her. I legit think it was last summer, right after they resumed.

Last July, Katie told Bill they were through, but Bill told Wyatt he wasn't giving up on Katie.
In August, Katie learned Bill still loved Brooke, so Katie again told Bill they were through.
In September, Brooke urged Bill to reunite with Katie. Bill told Wyatt he loved Brooke and Katie equally but he was pursuing Katie because they had a child. Katie told Bill she wasn't ready to be with him yet, and Bill took the "yet" as a good sign.
In October, Katie told Ridge the truth about Quinn and Shauna; and Liam was upset when Bill said he thinks about Steffy all the time. Neither Bill or Katie talked about or to each other.
In November and December, Bill and Katie did not appear.

[nkotb]

Heather 

12 minutes ago, CRT said:

Last July, Katie told Bill they were through, but Bill told Wyatt he wasn't giving up on Katie.
In August, Katie learned Bill still loved Brooke, so Katie again told Bill they were through.
In September, Brooke urged Bill to reunite with Katie. Bill told Wyatt he loved Brooke and Katie equally but he was pursuing Katie because they had a child. Katie told Bill she wasn't ready to be with him yet, and Bill took the "yet" as a good sign.
In October, Katie told Ridge the truth about Quinn and Shauna; and Liam was upset when Bill said he thinks about Steffy all the time. Neither Bill or Katie talked about or to each other.
In November and December, Bill and Katie did not appear.

Heather Tom, is that you? Holy cow, you have a fantastic memory! I honestly didn't remember Katie being on that much, but now that you mention it, she was the one to bust Quinn/Shauna. I completely breezed past that. 

Personally, I like Katie, but I'd like for her to not be in any type of romance with $Bill. I looooooooove DD, but Katie & $Bill are just toxic, & they'll never be long-term, he's got the wondering eye, among other body parts. She was fine with Jax Thorne, & she's fine in business settings, & super good in sister/Logan scenes, but I'd love for both HT & DD to get something better than Batie 8973.0. 

[Gam2]

Geez Louise. Who is wearing the ugliest clothes these days? Zoe or Paris? Or is it a tie?

[backhometome]

Dear lord, Zoe is truly the worst. How many times does Zende have to say no. She is forcing him to cheat with her so damn hard. Pathetic.

Why is Ridge getting so involved here. I thought he only interfered when it came to his kids love lives.

[CharlizeCat]

When Bill first came on the show, he was hellbent to get together with Donna.  I think it was some kind of "revenge from the grave" against Eric from Bill Sr.  She was married to Eric at the time and turned Bill down flat several times.

He met Katie in the hotel bar where she was drowning her sorrows after getting sacked from FC. (I don't remember why.) Katie got so drunk she passed out and Bill carried her to his hotel room where he found her ID and called Donna to come get her.

Sometimes, when Bill has struck out with both Brooke and Katie why he didn't go after his original conquest. I know that the writers wouldn't have a second Logan sister backstab Katie, but I am curious how "Dill" would have worked out.

 

Edited January 28, 2021 by CharlizeCat

[Crashcourse]

Zoey was downright stalking and sexually harassing Zende.  He should have escorted her ass out before Ridge showed up.  I hope Ridge doesn't fire him.   

And by the way Ridge, personal situations away from the workplace are none of your damn business.    

[KittyQ]

2 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

And by the way Ridge, personal situations away from the workplace are none of your damn business.    

So true! However, if Forester Creations had a no fraternization policy, this show would be over. 

[Anna Yolei]

3 hours ago, CharlizeCat said:

He met Katie in the hotel bar where she was drowning her sorrows after getting sacked from FC. (I don't remember why.)

It wasn't that, IIRC. Her flat AF "romance" with Nick ended when she realized he had never stopped loving Bridget, which is exactly what she deserves for reasons that require no explaination at this point.

I don't think she'd ever worked at FC prior to Bill putting her in charge as she spent all of 2008 and much of 2009 recovering from her heart transplant.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Zoe, girl, Zende knows that if you'll cheat with him you'll also cheat on him. FOH.

I just can't with Carter and his happy obliviousness. Fool, your fiancée is busy all right. Busy trying to stab you in the heart. Anyhoo, his pointedly going on about his fiancée reminded me of this Seinfeld moment:

Katie, you're putting me to sleep with this agita over Bill. What exactly has changed that can let you trust him this time? The guy still has options and the capacity to play them given the chance. Put yourself first instead of waiting for Bill to do it.

Bill taking romantic advice from Flo. Oy. Is that the Four Horsemen I see coming down from the clouds? 🙁

AYFKMWTS? If the genders were reversed in these scenes between Zoe and Zende I think people would be storming the CBS studios. What the actual fcuk?

Tomorrow morning:
Zende: So, Zoe, was it everything you dreamed it would be? Are you breaking up with Carter now?
Zoe: Meh, not so much. I mean, I know you really put your back into it but I think I'll stay with my fiance the COO. You have a nice life.

Buh, buh, buh, busted! Bye, Zoe!

[Skarzero]

Ridge what you walked in on, is a probable sexual harassment lawsuit but since the victim is a man lets see what you do about it or don't do about it.

If I were Zende I would have given Zhoe one chance to leave and then called the police on her creepy, trespassing ass. 

What I don't get is why Paris is keeping her mouth shut. Zhoe can't follow through on her threat even if she wanted to Carter being the COO matters little and his lying whore of a fiancé matters way less. She's the ho, she has no deed lol. Paris is incriminating herself by staying quiet she might as well throw her sister under the bus and save herself.

Edited January 30, 2021 by TeamGabi

[RuntheTable]

How do we know where what can go Zoey? Goodness, how many ways does a guy have to tell you no? And did you actually say you are doing this because you want to truthful and honorable? The truthful and honorable thing to do would be to tell Carter that you don't want to marry him. But in your whack ass mind truth and honor can only be achieved by having sex with Zende? So, how would that play out exactly? If you like Zende's delivery, would you then go to Carter and tell him that you had to find out if you had a future with Zende, and the only way to do that was by screwing him? And if you don't like Zende's delivery? You just go on and marry the COO, because he won't have to know you stepped out? My first big problem with this, outside of the absolute ludicrosity of it, is there is more to a relationship than sex. Zoey came to this country as a stalker, and now she is just continuing her pattern. 

Zende is being far too nice to this trick. Yes, he has now raised his voice twice, but this is nothing less than sexual harassment. He should have told Zoey to leave, and not even entertained her crazy notions. Now Ridge will have the entirely wrong idea. 

Ah Paris girl; you don't need to protect your sister. Zoey is a grown ass woman who is making her own choices, and she is pointedly trying to hurt you by pursuing Zende. It is sweet and all that you don't want to reveal how she is playing Carter, but that could end up costing you in the end. 

Katie, my crybaby, Bill is lonely, and quite frankly, he has no one else to turn to. Also, when you have to tell your husband that you want to be the only woman in his life, that you want to be adored, and cherished, and respected; maybe it is time to step back and reevaluate the situation. A devoted and loving husband would never have to be told those things. And you know the Bridge history. You know it is only a matter of time before they implode and Brooke is back on the market. Bill will know that too. You should think long and hard about that kind of stuff. 

And there is fucking worthless Flo, talking to Bill, giving him advise, as if she is a thing. Of course you would say you would forgive the guy. Forgiveness is pretty important to hollow, stanky heauxs like you. But just because you might be quick to give it, doesn't mean you in any deserve it. Step off bish.......

Edited January 29, 2021 by RuntheTable

[Waldo13]

I finally figured it out. Paris is going scuba diving after work and she is wearing her anti-shark wetsuit. 

HeyBill, aren’t you being a little insensitive to Wyatt?  You were never committed to his mother and left her right after the deed was done. I’m sure Liam would be somewhat insulted also. 

Wow, Zoey could you be even more obvious. Your going to give Zende the fuck test to see if he “measures” up to Carter.  What a stupid vapid bitch. Busted, Ridge make yourself more useful and fire Zoey’s bony ass.  

Katie, it’s not your heart to break, so give Bill another chance. 

 

[Joimiaroxeu]

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If I were Zende I would have given Zhoe one chance to leave and then called the police on her creepy, trespassing ass.  

Yeah, it's odd how this show has a hard time seeing men as victims. If Zende had been persistently pushing up on Zoe like she's been doing to him, and actually suggesting she screw him before she sets a wedding date, I think viewers would've been outraged. What we've got instead is Zende trying to be a gentleman about it and Ridge riding in to the rescue. (Which IMO is a whole 'nother level of problematic given the optics but here were are.)

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she is pointedly trying to hurt you by pursuing Zende

Not to defend Zoe but I don't see her trying to hurt Paris. In her mind Paris is just collateral damage because she won't get out of Zoe's way. Zoe has the market cornered on self-entitlement; it's her world and everyone else merely lives in it. That Paris hasn't ratted Zoe out is amazing. She's way more loyal to her sister than vice versa.

[lightninggirl]

On 1/28/2021 at 12:38 PM, Gam2 said:

Geez Louise. Who is wearing the ugliest clothes these days? Zoe or Paris? Or is it a tie?

It's a sad state of affairs when other actors' clothing actually looks worse than Hope's ridiculous outfits. 😂😂😂

[A-Lo]

It was really disgusting watching Zoe stalk around the room after Zende, just assuming he'd throw his clothes off and jump her bones because she wants him to.  I don't know about you guys, but other than an initial little frisson of attraction between the two of them, I haven't seen many sparks flying.

Is Show so damn broke it can't afford to bring in new love interests for both Bill and Katie?  Can TPTB not see that we are bored beyond reason with reuniting and then breaking them up again?  

[Petunia13]

Zoe literally chased a man around a room demanding he have sex w her. Real weirdo behavior. 

Also she’s hard to look at. Not sure why she and Flo are still here. 

Katie if you don’t want Bill I’ll take him. 

[nkotb]

23 minutes ago, Petunia13 said:

Zoe literally chased a man around a room demanding he have sex w her. Real weirdo behavior. 

Also she’s hard to look at. Not sure why she and Flo are still here. 

Katie if you don’t want Bill I’ll take him. 

The line forms behind me! 😄

Last night, I was watching the show at home, while my husband was there (I didn't get to lunch with my beloved $Bill yesterday, thanks, Mother Nature), & Zoe was on. I asked my husband if he thought she was pretty. He didn't really answer, & I told him that she's basically a supermodel for the company on our show, & he was stunned. He thought Donna was pretty, but he's a boob man, so that wasn't a surprise. 

[lightninggirl]

1 hour ago, Petunia13 said:

Zoe literally chased a man around a room demanding he have sex w her. Real weirdo behavior. 

Not surprising coming from Zoe's B&B origins with whoever that guy was that faked or took on or swapped out a British accent. All of that horrible teen acting clearly gave me a stroke because I can't remember anything except the stalking.

Edited January 29, 2021 by lightninggirl

[Foghorn Leghorn]

Zoey’s underbite!  They keep telling the audience how beautiful she is?!  I am not seeing it at all!  Paris is very pretty except for that awful hair.....

[Joimiaroxeu]

Ridge, it's not your effing place to run interference for a grown man against three people young enough to be your children. And then there's that other thing. All I'll say is I think maybe they should've brought back Mr. or Mrs. Avant to handle this particular situation with the quad. Bradley, I'm telling ya, it's a bad look even if it was perhaps unintentional.

Good lawd, the average 14-year-old boy crushing on the head cheerleader has more emotional maturity than Carter. He needs help. Maybe he should give Sharon Newman in Genoa City a call. 😉

And now people are just mocking Carter to his face by calling him the COO. Feh.

Well at least Paris tried to do the right thing by Carter. He's determined to be a dang fool for Zoe though.

Ridge is actually berating someone for playing a backpocket maneuver after what he did with Shauna and Brooke. Running game is "for me and not for thee," huh, Ridge? Shut your stupid trap. 🤐

AFAIC Zende is too nice to the Buckingham sisters. They both act like they're entitled to roll up on him whenever they want. Remember how peaceful life was before you met them, Zende? 😏

Paris, you know you're Zende's consolation prize, right? Have some self-respect, hon.

Gee, Ridge, if you really cared about your bro Carter you'd clue him in on Zoe. Are you going to sit back and let him get hurt when you could've stopped it?

If the show hasn't done it already but it was before I started watching, I wish they would explain why Carter is so needy. It can't be just because he was an adopted child. He pulled some weird romantic crap with Maya too, while she was married to Rick. Wonder if anyone knows about that other than him and Maya?

Edited January 30, 2021 by Joimiaroxeu

[Petunia13]

I didn’t know Carter was adopted. I thought it was just Xende. Anyways it’s always been written Carter has low self esteem and not much experience. Hence why he proposed to Maya w out even in a ship w her and declared her love to her for a long time when she had no interest. Any why he’s doing it w this long faced horny weirdo when she has no attraction to him. Also why he’s always free and willing to spend evenings and weekends off the clock doing weddings for the family or holiday meals. He always was written NuRidges best friend hence the long running weekly racquetball dates and their bromance name “CartRidge” but Ridge never gives him any good advice or fix ups. 

[Waldo13]

Ridge knows whereof he speaks.  In fact he has a PhD in that subject.  Zoey, do you think that Ridge is that stupid because your excuses are falling on deaf ears. Zoey open your mouth and insert foot.  Now even Ridge knows Carter is Plan B as well as Paris. Zende come clean with Paris, you were seriously considering jumping Zoey’s bones until Ridge but in which is evident by you lashing out at Paris.  To Zende, Paris has become Plan B. 

 

Donna get lost and let Paris lay the truth Carter that he doesn’t want to hear.  
 

I really don’t have any skin in the game because I have no empathy for Zoey, Paris, nor Zende my concern is for cheating. I hate cheating and cheaters which is the the theme of B&B.  

[Crashcourse]

2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

AFAIC Zende is too nice to the Buckingham sisters. They both act like they're entitled to roll up on him whenever they want. Remember how peaceful life was before you met them, Zende? 😏

You know, I was thinking the same thing--that Zende should just roll up on outta there.  I know he likes his job and I understand that he wouldn't want to leave, so if he doesn't leave, he really needs to set some boundaries and get both these sisters off his ass.     

[Joimiaroxeu]

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He always was written NuRidges best friend hence the long running weekly racquetball dates and their bromance name “CartRidge” but Ridge never gives him any good advice or fix ups. 

I had no idea they had a ship name. That's...interesting. Well, my interpretation of Carter as a loser is now reinforced. I guess promoting him to COO was supposed to balance out his other failings, but this storyline with the quad isn't doing him any favors IMO. Are we supposed to be rooting for him?

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I didn’t know Carter was adopted. I thought it was just Xende.

Yeah, I'm gonna hit reverse on that. When I read somewhere that Marcus was Carter's adoptive brother I thought that meant Carter was the one who was adopted. Apparently Carter's family adopted Marcus and then Marcus later ended up having 47 different families. 🙄

[TessHarding2]

10 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Ridge, it's not your effing place to run interference for a grown man against three people young enough to be your children. And then there's that other thing. All I'll say is I think maybe they should've brought back Mr. or Mrs. Avant to handle this particular situation with the quad. Bradley, I'm telling ya, it's a bad look even if it was perhaps unintentional.

Good lawd, the average 14-year-old boy crushing on the lead cheerleader has more emotional maturity than Carter. He needs help. Maybe he should give Sharon Newman in Genoa City a call. 😉

And now people are just mocking Carter to his face by calling him the COO. Feh.

Well at least Paris tried to do the right thing by Carter. He's determined to be a dang fool for Zoe though.

Ridge is actually berating someone for playing a backpocket maneuver after what he did with Shauna and Brooke. Running game is "for me and not for thee," huh, Ridge? Shut your stupid trap. 🤐

AFAIC Zende is too nice to the Buckingham sisters. They both act like they're entitled to roll up on him whenever they want. Remember how peaceful life was before you met them, Zende? 😏

Paris, you know you're Zende's consolation prize, right? Have some self-respect, hon.

Gee, Ridge, if you really cared about your bro Carter you'd clue him in on Zoe. Are you going to sit back and let him get hurt when you could've stopped it?

If the show hasn't done it already but it was before I started watching, I wish they would explain why Carter is so needy. It can't be just because he was an adopted child. He pulled some weird romantic crap with Maya too, while she was married to Rick. Wonder if anyone knows about that other than him and Maya?

The last time I saw a full show was when Thomas was kissing the mannequin.  I started watching today's show and saw Ridge lecturing.  Are they trying to make him the new patriarch cause it didn't make any sense.  He also looked like he rolled (or flopped) out of bed.  Uncombed, unkempt, unshaven.  And that damned monotone voice.  I turned it off and went back to the beginning of the week and saw that Steffy is pregs and we're guessing who's the Dad.  It would be good if the baby was Bill's, but I guess that didn't happen.  Bizarre show.

[bannana]

I am seriously done with Show continuously sounding like we are still in the 50s. Women don't need to marry men to be successful in life. WTAF. Who is writing this archaic sexist shit!?

[Anna Yolei]

On 1/29/2021 at 2:18 PM, Joimiaroxeu said:

the show hasn't done it already but it was before I started watching, I wish they would explain why Carter is so needy. It can't be just because he was an adopted child. He pulled some weird romantic crap with Maya too, while she was married to Rick. Wonder if anyone knows about that other than him and Maya?

Carter was brought on to boost Marcus, who Donna gave up for adoption as a teenager, so everyone knows.

Slight nitpick:Carter and Maya were engaged before she married Rick. It was after Rick decided to stick it out with Caroline in an odd about-face on that story. I say "engaged" and not "dated" because they literally had one date that Carter proposed to Maya on and she accepted on the rebound. Truly one of B&B's most baffling romantic decisions, and on a show where the leading man once dated his daughter-sister and we're to believe Liam is some kind of catch, that's saying something.

On 1/29/2021 at 9:05 AM, Joimiaroxeu said:

Yeah, it's odd how this show has a hard time seeing men as victims.

It's not like the show is any better with the women, either. The last decent story TIIC ever did on that subject was in 1987. 😐

Zende has a history of waffling himself, but Zoe can go fuck back off to London. She should be in a jail cell.

Edited January 31, 2021 by Anna Yolei

[Joimiaroxeu]

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Carter was brought on to boost Marcus, who Donna gave up for adoption as a teenager, so everyone knows.

Okay but I was referring to that moment between Carter and Maya when he made a play for her while she was still happily married to Rick. It came out of the blue and her reaction (and the reaction of many viewers) was like WTF? Do any other characters know about that besides Carter and Maya? On another soap forum posters have been saying he can't get mad at Zoe about pursuing Zende because he pretty much did the same thing to Maya. (Though it didn't go on for weeks and was almost a blink and you'd miss it thing so I don't get the comparison.)

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Slight nitpick: Carter and Maya were engaged before she married Rick. It was after Rick decided to stick it out with Caroline in and odd about-face on that story. I say "engaged" and not "dated" because they literally had one date that Carter proposed to Maya on and she accepted on the rebound. Truly one of B&B's most baffling romantic decisions, and on a show where the leading man once dated his daughter-sister and we're to believe Liam is some kind of catch, that's saying something.

Again, I was talking about later on after Maya had long been married to Rick, Carter had no reason to think Maya would want to cheat on her husband with Carter and was being about as oblivious to reality as he's being now with Zoe.

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It's not like the show is any better with the women, either. The last decent story TIIC ever did on that subject was in 1987. 😐

I don't know what happened in 1987 since I hadn't started watching B&B yet but since I have been a viewer, I think the party line does seem to be that Zoe was Thomas' victim. It's just hard to have any sympathy for her because of the other heinous stuff she's done. Plus there was that weird swerve at the end where she was apparently in cahoots with Hope to humiliate Thomas at their wedding. I think though that it was more about Bradley wanted to keep Thomas as a redeemable character than lifting up Zoe and Hope.

Hope IMO would ordinarily be seen as a victim but they sort of write her as being complicit in it because she won't listen when people try to warn her. Then the writers give her a lot of women's empowerment stuff to wrap herself in like an invisible shield. Apparently we're supposed to ignore how delusional she is and instead see as her wanting to be positive and expect everything to be fine.

Meanwhile, Liam gets sexually assaulted for weeks by Quinn and he's just supposed to get over it because it would've been too embarrassing to have the whole thing come out in court. And now Zende has had Zoe basically strafing him like a military bomber and he just has to tolerate it. If the genders were reversed I think viewers would be raising hell. As it is plenty don't like it but whatever, the show must go on and characters like Quinn and Zoe aren't going to suffer any major or long-term consequences for their actions. 😒

Edited January 30, 2021 by Joimiaroxeu

[RuntheTable]

Watching Ridge spy on Carter and Zoey was just too funny! In my mind all I could see was Brooke scoping out Quinn and Ridge in Australia. 

Zoey must have pushed the nitrous button on her broom in order to get to Carter before Ridge. And talk about self preservation at it finest! Girl was laying it on thick. I wouldn't be surprised to see her suggest they head to Vegas right now. 

I have a feeling that Ridge is just gonna let it go so that his buddy is happy. But Ridge should know better than anyone the pitfalls of getting hooked up with someone that is not 100% in the game. So, come on out of hiding and blow up Carter's world; Donna is upstairs and can make his boo boo's all better. 

I really don't like how they make Carter look so damn stupid and needy and thirsty. If you are going to have him as a main character Show, then you need to do better than this. Watching him repeat the same patterns over and over is taxing, and down right embarrassing. 

Well, looks like Paris is Plan B. That's ok though. Zende's attraction to Zoey was more the allusion of who she is. The glamour of being a model and all that. At the end of the day there is nothing real about that, and I hope that Zoey's actions; coming on to Zende, following him, sexually stalking him, wanting to step out on Carter, all help him to understand that anything he might have seen in her was on the outside and very superficial. He and Paris are starting from a good place. Maybe they can have a normal romance; something Show has lost sight of for decades. Let them discover and find out about each other over time, instead of dating today, married tomorrow. 

Edited January 30, 2021 by RuntheTable

[CharlizeCat]

I knew that Carter was hopeless when he shut Paris down and said he preferred to "get to know Zoey" throughout the course of their marriage. F-O-O-L! That was destined to blow up in his face. What mature couples do that? I know that modern marriage "norms" are very different (if any even exist), but the rule of thumb advice was to get to know somebody via dating for a solid year minimum before getting engaged. Obviously, that cannot happen in B&B world, but still ...

Just like the nonexistent gay employees at a major fashion house, it is totally unrealistic that attractive, successful (COO!) and wealthy (divorcee') singles like Carter and Donna can't find suitable partners in L.A.