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4 hours ago, grisgris said:

Is it just me or has Slouchy's voice changed? I mean he'd already gotten past that embarrassing high-pitched croaky stage but today, his voice sounded deeper. He looks like he's grown up quite a bit since he first came on the show not that long ago.

A year, give or take IIRC. He came shortly before the Spectras.

Since Coco is gone, can we just recast to a guy that looks 20 or so and start over with him?

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Yes this RJ in terms of characterization is a no for me. I think the cast needs to be edited around. With Ivy off maybe we can still recon Aly's death and she can be in Spectra where she belongs! She went to Europe for experimental coma treatment then after was in intensive physical and psych therapy. 

 

(Jeez watching old footage Steffi and Maya bullied the crap out of this poor girl who already had emotional issues. It's sad). 

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12 hours ago, grisgris said:

Watch Garbridge suck face makes me stomach turn.

Is it just me or has Slouchy's voice changed? I mean he'd already gotten past that embarrassing high-pitched croaky stage but today, his voice sounded deeper. He looks like he's grown up quite a bit since he first came on the show not that long ago.

Enough! The forced enthusiasm for GarBridge round #89023489 was so forced and stupid. If I'd received an email from Sludge summoning me to the office, I would have responded, "What? You getting married again?" The not gone to the meeting. If ever there was a time for Carter to show up with a Bible, that was it. Put everybody out of their misery.  Well, of course, GarBridge has to get married at Eric and Quinn's house. Is Quinn going to find Sheila's Ms. Cleo sketch artist to come up with a GarBridge portrait on the fly? What a stupid thing to offer. (It was also really nice of Quinn to volunteer Ivy, Pam, Charlie and Katie to plan the wedding.) I think that Brooke should have turned the offer down flat -- all things considered -- and held the wedding on her property. She could walk down the doomed cement stairs of miscarriages and red rose petals. 

Brooke: "I polished my ring last night so it would be all nice and sparkly .... it's ENORMOUS (wide knowing eyes aimed at Sludge ... I wuv my fambly (group hug." Hell, my IQ fell several points listening to that drivel and I didn't have to cut my hair.

Quinn (playing dumb): "Oohhh ... can I see the ring?" (Thinking: What did that ditzy blonde airhead use on it? It's all cloudy ... ) I thought Quinn was going to accidentally say the wrong thing about the ring.

I am still confused. Why did GarBridge have to announce their engagement twice? I swear that just last week, Sludge called an office meeting to announce their engagement. I also thought that Ridge proposed to Brooke and she accepted but wouldn't wear the engagement ring until she was free of $Bill. Then yesterday, she proposed to him?  I thought Bill signed the annulment papers before the first engagement announcement, maybe not? 

I propose a drinking game that any time somebody says, "family," take a swig. That word is being overused as much as "forgiveness." Count both and we'll be drunk before the first commercial break.

YES! to all of this!  The only thing I'm enjoying about show right now is Brooke's hair.  My God...I LOVE her hair!  I hope she keeps that style when she and Ridge "begin" their lives together.  Again.

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B&B is fortunate that it is owned by the Bells, who have a huge overseas following, which is why they can still even do location shoots. We get at least one a year, which is one than I can remember for Y&R since Internet streaming took off.

It seems to me they spend most of their budget on location shoots and the women's clothing. Everything else about the show just comes across as cheap to me. For example, why does every local wedding have to be at Eric's house (or Brooke's)? Why aren't Forrester heirs Ridge and Thorne able to live anywhere other than on Eric's estate or with whatever woman they're seeing at the moment? Why don't any of them actually go on dates to places that aren't owned by Forresters? It's frigging Los Angeles, one of the culture centers of the world!

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Recap for Tuesday, 1/30/2018:

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This episode was a complete and utter waste of my time. For those of you who stuck it out and watching the 20 minutes of pure drivel, you have my sympathies.

The entire episode takes place at FC, which, in and of itself, isn't boring, in fact, some of the best episodes ever have taken place there (Red Power Suit Brooke, anyone?). 

There's a quick moment where Quinn and Eric are about to make out in the CEO office when they're interrupted by Pam, Charlie, Ivy, Hope, Katie, and Thorne. Charlie jokes about how he can't keep his hands off Pam either and put this on the list of things I don't need to know about.

Ridge has called another meeting and why these people think this meeting will be any more worthwhile than the last once (where they announced their engagement last week) is beyond me.

Over in the design office, GarBridge are making out to the Sexy Sax soundtrack (apparently on loan from Watie) and can I just say that these two nauseate me. They have ZERO chemistry even if KKL does have chemistry with a turnip and TK is trying harder lately. It's just so forced and awkward 

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Slouchey comes in a few minutes later and is the same annoying pipsqueak he always is, all happy that his famwee is getting back together.

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They share a hug. Gag.

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It still astonishes me that Slouchey is the best they could come up with for the son of Ridge Forrester and Brooke Logan. 

The three of them join everyone in the boardroom and Ridge gives this stupid speech about an upcoming merger, thinking he's being all coy and cute. 

They announce that they're getting married as soon as possible and Thorne hilariously rolls his eyes and dodges the hug fest that ensues and really, people?

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After all THISwhat is there to be excited about?

Folks start discussing where the wedding should take place and again, WHO CARES???

Ivy: "Oh, you know, sydney is beautiful this time of year." AWKWARD.

Ridge stammers: "We, uh..."

Brooke furrows her brow: "Uh, well, things didn't work out in Sydney for us, so we're gonna stay local this time." Good luck with that. Also, I hate the reminder to Sydney and the Brill reunion when things were so, so right.

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Ridge: "Yeah, we want to make sure there's as much family as possible." Uh huh.

Quinn and Eric offer the mansion and Ridge says they'll think about it. 

Brooke has a moment alone with Thorne and they have far more chemistry than she and TK. It's a shame it's being wasted and that after being on with great fanfare, I'd have to struggle to remember Thorne/IR are on the show at all.

Brooke: "I know you don't approve. And you're worried. About Ridge and how he'll treat me. But I believe in him. And I believe in us. I think he's come around. I trust him. I just want you to be there, at our wedding, and I want you to be happy for us." That is a mighty tall order, Brooke.

Thorne: "I'm concerned about you. You said you wanted to wait, to give yourself some time." 

Brooke: "I changed my mind." 

Thorne: "I mean, the annulment, the sudden urge to get married -- is he pressuring you?"

Brooke: "No. No. I've loved Ridge for as long as I can remember. You know that. So why wait?"

Thorne: "Well... he's very lucky to be getting you. You know I'll always support you. You can always count on me. I just hope that you can count on my brother." I think we all know that the only thing one can count on Ridge for is to NOT count on him.

Later, Quinn chats with Brooke and it's about as awkward as you can imagine, including Quinn asking to see Brooke's ring and obviously, Brooke is still in the dark that Quinn is the one who designed it with lots of fawning and some touching from Ridge in the process.

Ridge and Eric join them and Eric reiterates their offer to have the wedding at the mansion. Quinn ups the ante by offering to put up a portrait of them in place of her's. This is all kinds of creepy.

Brooke doesn't really know what to say to all of this and Quinn stresses she just wants her to consider it. Quinn then "volunteers" Pam, Charlie, Ivy, and Hope to handle everything (with her supervision, of course).

I'm sure you were watching with baited breath to see what they would decide. I know I wasn't. Predictably, they decide to get married at the mansion after all and who writes this shit?

Ridge wonders if Thorne (who's ducked out already) will show up and if I were Thorne, it would be a hard pass, but Thorne's classier than that. Ridge decides to go talk to Thorne. Brooke says she needs to talk Katie. 

Then there's this bit with Ridge and Quinn:

Ridge: "Hey." Ridge can't meet her eyes at first, which is so telling. He shouldn't be nervous around her but he is.

Quinn: "Wow. Well, it sure feels like we've come full circle."

Ridge: "Yeah, well, we took a bit of a detour, but, um... I think we need to be exactly where we have to be."

Quinn: "I wish you all the best. And I really hope you're gonna be as happy as Eric and me."

I'd believe them more if they weren't eye-fucking each other the entire time. They really do have chemistry and even with less than 30 seconds of scene time together, it's so much more obvious when we see the fake, forced-together farce that is GarBridge.

Here's the snippet of the scene.

Everyone starts to disperse with Hope and Ivy leaving to get lunch and why can't we see that conversation. I'll bet they have much to catch up on.

Eric and Quinn wonder about leaving Ridge and Thorne together unsupervised, but fear not, because basically what happens is that Ridge blows some smoke up Thorne's ass and Thorne knows it and Ridge knows that he knows it, but despite all of that, Thorne agrees to be Ridge's best man and they hug while cheesy music swarms. 

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There's much the same in the design office where Brooke tells second-choice Katie she'd like her to be her maid of honor. Katie, tearfully accepts, and while this whole scene is ridiculous, considering all the history and baggage between them, I can't deny the chemistry with the Logan sisters, particularly the eldest and youngest and had the faintest sensation of something being in my eye as they cried and hugged and Katie said: "I love you, Sissy." Sissy is the term of endearment I use to refer to my sisters and vice versa. So they got me for a nanosecond there.

But the rest - purely FF material.

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50 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

It seems to me they spend most of their budget on location shoots and the women's clothing. Everything else about the show just comes across as cheap to me. For example, why does every local wedding have to be at Eric's house (or Brooke's)? Why aren't Forrester heirs Ridge and Thorne able to live anywhere other than on Eric's estate or with whatever woman they're seeing at the moment? Why don't any of them actually go on dates to places that aren't owned by Forresters? It's frigging Los Angeles, one of the culture centers of the world!

Not that I give a rat's ass about the latest GarBridge wedding (or attempt), but if nothing else, they have the beach right there.

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Dumbstruck

Gobsmacked

After weeks of sadness, anger, antagonism, and disgust; we suddenly switch gears and are now engaging in a full on love-in. The only things missing are the tie dyed shirts, bandanas, bell bottom hip huggers, and some psychedelia, but who needs acid when everyone is acting fucking cuckoo without it.

Bill, mooning around Steffy like a lovelorn idiot. And everyone thought Brooke had castrated $Bill. It must be paper acid; it has a different effect on folks than the pill kind.

Ridge and Brooke all giddy like two Bull riders going to their first rodeo. These two should be overcome with tracers and flashbacks that clearly say “DON”T DO IT!”

The extended family raising their arms in praise and singing “bless thee!” and “hallefuckinglujah!” as if they were all at a Slayer concert toking on the tot.

Oh, and just to ice the deal, Brooke and Ridge will now have their very own portrait! And once you get there, well, there is no turning back.

Poor Thorne. After investing in this good looking man who can also act, they promptly back burner him, and only trot him out to be a Bridge antagonist. Give this man something to do. I would so much rather see him at Spectra. Him and Hope.

So  much fuckery.

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I wonder if the return of Donna means that Thorne will accept another Logan sister in his life?  Nothing like being second best.

Why did Brooke have to bring in the fact that Katie was her second choice for maid of honor (shouldn't she be a Matron)?  It wasn't necessary for her to even say anything about that.  It was almost a mean girl moment.

Someone asked this a bit earlier, but WHY does TK have that overly raspy voice?  Did he have some kind of throat disease?  I find it grating and I'm always wanting to clear my throat whenever he speaks.  

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28 minutes ago, KLovestoShop said:

Someone asked this a bit earlier, but WHY does TK have that overly raspy voice?  Did he have some kind of throat disease?  I find it grating and I'm always wanting to clear my throat whenever he speaks.  

I watched an interview with Thorsten and he said he has talked like that since childhood. He said his parents took him to doctor's and specialist's, but they never found anything wrong with him, so it is just the way he talks. Thorsten is really a cool person; cultured, educated, funny, he was also very active in sports in his younger years playing rugby, hockey and decathlon, and majored in physical education. He also writes books, poems and novels, and donates the profits to children's causes. 

Too bad I like him in real life but cannot stand Ridge. 

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5 minutes ago, RuntheTable said:

 

Too bad I like him in real life but cannot stand Ridge. 

You've got that right.  But, it's because he's written that way, and he's basically stuck acting like an ass.  Don't you ever wonder if any actor has the balls to go to the head writer and tell them they don't like the way their part is written?  I guess if you've got the "balls", so to speak, like someone like Eric Braden, you could get away with putting your foot on the writers necks, but maybe TK doesn't have power to protest.  

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I watched an interview with Thorsten and he said he has talked like that since childhood.

Meh, he didn't talk like that on AMC or on what I saw of him on OLTL.  Something else must be going on and I hope it's not health-related. I know goiters can cause raspy throats like that.

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It really is a shame that they didn't create an entirely new role for TK. 

ICAM. It's been a bad fit even if one allows for "taking the character in a different direction" as shows like to say. And it still seems to me like TK isn't really comfortable playing a fashion designer. I can't think of any male designers who dress like schlubs and generally look unkempt. At least TPTB got that part right with nuThorne but the poor guy only seems to have two outfits.

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10 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

They announce that they're getting married as soon as possible and Thorne hilariously rolls his eyes and dodges the hug fest that ensues and really, people?

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After all THISwhat is there to be excited about?

Twelve fucking weddings. And that's not even counting the broken engagements or the marriages deemed invalid because of plot.

Liam may have the most inexplicable sex appeal of any male lead on any series I've watched, but Bridge will always and forever be the Royal Couple of Wedding WTFery.

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1 hour ago, KLovestoShop said:

You've got that right.  But, it's because he's written that way, and he's basically stuck acting like an ass.  Don't you ever wonder if any actor has the balls to go to the head writer and tell them they don't like the way their part is written?  I guess if you've got the "balls", so to speak, like someone like Eric Braden, you could get away with putting your foot on the writers necks, but maybe TK doesn't have power to protest.  

I once read a story about Kate Mulgrew (yet another soap vet! :P) asking the producers of Star Trek: Voyager if they were high when she got a script that involved Janeway wasting valuable resources for a holodeck program with a character she'd fallen in love with. I don't know if it did happen, but god I hope so.

As far as B&B go, apart from Hunter Tylo and Jack Wagner's vanity getting in the way of a long lost son story, I don't think many of the veterans put out a lot of requests of the writers. The squashing of Brick reuniting is the only thing I've ever heard KKL push for, and after the beating Brooke took for Breacon, I can't blame her.

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4 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

 

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As much drama and crap they've put people through, you can't say this couple wasn't purty.

1 hour ago, Anna Yolei said:

Liam may have the most inexplicable sex appeal of any male lead on any series I've watched, but Bridget will always and forever be the Royal Couple of Wedding WTFery.

One woman's trash, is another's treasure. I'll take him!

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16 minutes ago, TobinAlbers said:

As much drama and crap they've put people through, you can't say this couple wasn't purty.

RM never appealed to me, and neither does TK.  KKL is pretty, but that's about it.  Hunter Tylo was gorgeous.  When I see what she's done to her face, it makes me want to cry.

So what happened to Thorne's story.  This is it?  Poor Ingo.  Another character and actor wasted.

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43 minutes ago, TobinAlbers said:

As much drama and crap they've put people through, you can't say this couple wasn't purty.

Indeed they were! I had a crush on RM as a young teen during his Player days. I remember quite clearly racing home with my new album, and tearing off the plastic wrap and just wearing that vinyl out. Then, so many years later, I couldn't believe he was resurfacing in B&B. KKL is just so, so beautiful, but she also possesses something indefinable that makes her shine brighter than others. Then there is that killer smile and the best giggle in daytime. Even at this age she is incredible, but that is due to her lifestyle, which I totally admire! So athletic and healthy, and I give her major props for keeping the "work" to a minimum. But when you look like that why mess with perfection?

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How many days if this pre-wedding celebration are we going to have to endure? If they were actually just going to put Brooke and Ridge together forever it would be one thing (still annoying). But what are the odds they're still together without one or both cheating? 0% is too generous. 

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I can't wrap my brain around why Katie is so happy to be maid/matron of honor for Brooke and Sludge's 99th wedding after all the shit she pulled to get Sludge for herself. Okay, I see it now, she has really bad judgement. But I have to wonder, is she drinking again? Or is Chickenhead's weenie causing her this much delirium? It doesn't make any sense.

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Today's show was a ????? fest. A barf burger. It's was worse than the usual Thanksgiving episode.  Rick only wants to mend fences, with Ridge, is because he doesn't want to move out of his mother's house.  

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7 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

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This....BREAKS MY HEART.

This was such a breakthrough moment for Brooke.  I thought she had FINALLY seen Ridge for who he REALLY is and had turned her back on all the bullshit she'd endured at his hands.  And then Bill appears and he thanks God for his second chance with the woman of his dreams.  The both of them were embracing the future.  But, noooooooooooooooo.  I'm supposed to believe that at the moment Bill looks to the heavens and thanks his preferred deity, he actually suppressing feelings of love and devotion to the slattern that just married his son.  FUCKERY!!

Working on this show must be pure hell.  I'm sure the paycheque is nice but what self-respecting actor could put up with this bullshit?  Nu-Thorne makes his return a few weeks ago. He hates his brother and loves Brooke.  He goes to his father with Rick and insists that Ridge is a pretender to the throne and isn't even a REAL Forrester.  Now, all of a sudden he's hugging Ridge TWICE and agreeing to be his best man.  How does an actor with a smidgen of commitment to their craft justify this, short of their character has a brain tumour or is suffering from a mental illness and THAT explains the sudden turn-around.  This bullshit is probably the reason why B&B has its well-earned reputation for terrible actors.  There have been some standouts (Susan Flannery and John McCook) and some actors that aren't great but good (KKL) but for the longest time Ronnnnnnn Moss set the standard in acting ability.  The current cast is pretty strong (Scott, Rena, Ingo, KKL) but there are still a lot of REALLY BAD actors on this show (looking at you JMW and whoever the hell plays Slouchy).  The people behind the scenes clearly have as much contempt for the talent as they do for their audience. 

The last few days have been torture.  Anyone who has been watching this show for more than 5 minutes knows how absurd it is to be watching the Forrester family unite behind Brooke and Ridge getting together ONE MORE TIME.  Everyone in that room knows what that dreadful man has done to that woman.  Shit, they all know what they've done to each other.  Ridge and Quinn were tearing each others clothes off a few weeks ago.  Eric had basically disowned his son.  How can Thorne stand to be in the same room with Maya and Rick who basically bullied his mentally ill daughter into a nervous breakdown?  And isn't ANYBODY curious about where the fuck Haudilox is?

3 hours ago, TobinAlbers said:

As much drama and crap they've put people through, you can't say this couple wasn't purty.

One woman's trash, is another's treasure. I'll take him!

Ron Moss was one of the worst actors in the history of acting.  But I can't deny that he and KKL were beautiful together.  She gave his Ken-doll looks some life.  It's painful watching TK trying to create the tiniest spark with KKL.  He knows the problem is him because KKL can create chemistry with furniture.  Beads of sweat are beginning to form on his forehead.  I'm hoping that something happens to break Bridge up because I'm worried that TK is going to stroke out under the strain.

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Pregnant. Cute, Rick. Brooke's baby-making parts probably have dust bunnies tumbling through them now.

"...too Orwellian..."? Oy, I think whoever wrote that line should go stand in a corner and feel bad about their mistakes in life.

Maya's wig. Hmm.? Meanwhile, Rick, you are a grown-ass man with your own family. Maybe it's time for you to move out of your mommy's and get your own house. Good grief, what a bunch of freeloaders.

Forever. One last time. I'm getting a funny feeling about this. Is it possible they're about to kill Ridge off?

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What did I watch today?? Everyone was paying homage to the union of Brooke and Ridge to the point of it being nauseating. What was the point of all of this? It is almost like they were wrapping up the whole soap forever--everyone making amends, being on good terms again, hugging. What in the world?!

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7 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

So  much fuckery.

Too damn much feel good fuckery if you ask me.

Why do I get the impression that one of them is going to die?  Otherwise, why all the remembrances? 

18 minutes ago, Pickles said:

What did I watch today?? Everyone was paying homage to the union of Brooke and Ridge to the point of it being nauseating. What was the point of all of this? It is almost like they were wrapping up the whole soap forever--everyone making amends, being on good terms again, hugging. What in the world?!

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18 minutes ago, Pickles said:

 It is almost like they were wrapping up the whole soap forever--everyone making amends, being on good terms again, hugging. What in the world?!

It did feel like that!  After the third group hug, I wondered if someone in the cast had a terminal illness or if a chunk of the cast was being let go (god willing) and this was their 'farewell' episode.

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Ridge and Brooke will last for as long as it takes Steffy to agree to marry Bill.  Steffy will either finally realize it's over with Liam, or Bill will be the baby's father.  Ridge will be furious that Steffy is marrying Bill.  Brooke will discover she still has feelings for Bill, and try to talk him out of marrying Steffy for his own good.  Ridge will be annoyed, and start sniffing around Quinn again.  Brooke will declare it's over with Ridge when she finds him with Quinn, go running to Bill because he is now her destiny, and claim for the millionith time she has seen Ridge for who he really is.  If Quinn won't have anything to do with Ridge, Ridge will go visit Katie, and if Katie is dating Thorne, then Ridge will have no problem trying to interfere in that relationship.  Ridge and Brooke are despicable people, and I wish they would both drop dead.

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2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Pregnant. Cute, Rick. Brooke's baby-making parts probably have dust bunnies tumbling through them now.

Didn't the doctor initially assume Brooke was already in menopause when she got knocked up by Bill five years ago? Why would anyone think she was knocked up now?

although, if TPTB wanted to be "edgy," they could magick up some way for Brooke to donate her uterus to Maya due to "cutting edge" technology to insert a womb into a person assumed male at birth. Maybe Bridget will come access this solution from a link Dr. Carl sent her on Facebook! ??

2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Forever. One last time. I'm getting a funny feeling about this. Is it possible they're about to kill Ridge off?

A year ago I wouldn't have believed this, but B&B does manage some major surprises at times. Would also explain the sudden brotherly feels from Thorne and Rick being civil.

I wouldn't be sad about that.

1 hour ago, TigerLynx said:

Ridge and Brooke will last for as long as it takes Steffy to agree to marry Bill.  Steffy will either finally realize it's over with Liam, or Bill will be the baby's father.  Ridge will be furious that Steffy is marrying Bill.  Brooke will discover she still has feelings for Bill, and try to talk him out of marrying Steffy for his own good.  Ridge will be annoyed, and start sniffing around Quinn again.  Brooke will declare it's over with Ridge when she finds him with Quinn, go running to Bill because he is now her destiny, and claim for the millionith time she has seen Ridge for who he really is.  If Quinn won't have anything to do with Ridge, Ridge will go visit Katie, and if Katie is dating Thorne, then Ridge will have no problem trying to interfere in that relationship.  Ridge and Brooke are despicable people, and I wish they would both drop dead.

 

....or most likely, it's this :| Because we can't have nice things, ever.

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WTF was today's episode? I was like a GarBridge infomercial. I fully expected them to be selling some kind of product at the end.

I also thought that the love-in was a huge anvil that something majorly terrible is going to happen. I am totally on-board with killing Ridge off.  Maybe he can take his ho daughter with him.

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2 hours ago, drivethroo said:

I'm binge watching this week's episodes.  Right now, I'm on Monday's.  Did Ridge seriously question Bill going after Steffy?  This, from the man who has gone after not one, but two of his father's wives?

Plus the whole doing and marrying (!) his brother's wife and $Bill's niece?!

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Ok, so I must ask….

WHAT THE ACTUAL HOLY FUCK IS GOING ON?????

Two entire episodes donated to a Bridge reunion? All that over the top kumbaya shit just gave me the feels.

Yesterday I speculated that it might be acid, but heck, for all I know it is the Koolaid or Pam’s lemon bars.

Seriously, what is with all this nostalgia about when Brooke and Ridge first met? And all the hugging and the love? This is the Forrester’s, the family that prefers to stab each other in the back, not have love-ins and hug fests.

And Brooke and Ridge will be getting their own portrait too. This little thing here has me so worried. Getting a portrait hung in the Forrester Manse is something like a right of passage, so why is that happening for Ridge and Brooke? Are we setting up for something big in Bell LA? Could Eric be leaving, and Brooke and Ridge are going to assume the Matriarch and Patriarch roles? If so, where will Quinn go? I mean, if their portrait is going to be hanging at Eric’s wouldn’t it follow suit that they would be living there too?

It seems they are working double time to convince us that Ridge has really changed, and will do right by Brooke this time. Then there is this turnabout with Thorne and Rick, and Eric waxing on about how proud he is of them, and Brooke and Ridge as well.

Then we have Katie going on to Brooke and Rick about how it feels different this time. And I must admit; it does feel different. The happiness, and smiles, and sharing the love, and reminiscing.

They were so totally and completely giving Katie and Thorne a second chem test. I guess I have to thank Wyatt, or maybe Wyatt’s wonder stick, cause Katie is like a completely different person now. I find myself liking her. Strange.

KKL has been an absolute vision these past weeks. I can’t think of when I have seen her look so put together; it has been years. And dammit, but she is selling Bridge. Brooke looks so happy!

Well, I am just a viewer, so I will have to wait and see.

 

13 hours ago, mightysparrow said:

And then Bill appears and he thanks God for his second chance with the woman of his dreams.  The both of them were embracing the future.  But, noooooooooooooooo.  I'm supposed to believe that at the moment Bill looks to the heavens and thanks his preferred deity, he actually suppressing feelings of love and devotion to the slattern that just married his son.  FUCKERY!!

Ding, ding, ding!

13 hours ago, mightysparrow said:

The last few days have been torture.  Anyone who has been watching this show for more than 5 minutes knows how absurd it is to be watching the Forrester family unite behind Brooke and Ridge getting together ONE MORE TIME.  Everyone in that room knows what that dreadful man has done to that woman.  Shit, they all know what they've done to each other.  Ridge and Quinn were tearing each others clothes off a few weeks ago.  Eric had basically disowned his son.  How can Thorne stand to be in the same room with Maya and Rick who basically bullied his mentally ill daughter into a nervous breakdown?  And isn't ANYBODY curious about where the fuck Haudilox is?

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Another day devoted to GarBridge??? And toasting yet another wedding? 

TPTB must truly be scraping the bottom of the barrel. 

These folks should get some kind of award for having to convincingly raise their glasses and give speeches to this farce of a couple. Well, except for Slouchey, who chose to leisurely sit while raising his glass. 

In lieu of a recap (because yesterday's episode did NOT deserve one), I'll sum up with the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly:

The Good:

KKL looked as gorgeous as I've ever seen her. Red is such a good color for her. Her hair continues to look great and her makeup was gorgeous especially the red lipstick.

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I'm also coveting Maya's pink silk blouse and pencil skirt.

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Rick's reaction to learning Brooke and Ridge were getting married right away. JY really know how to bring the tears and he should be utilized more (and not in a baby drama storyline either). 

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His "when you're happy, I'm happy" really got to me. Parents don't often realize that as much as they want our happiness, we want the same for them and it hurts us just like them when they're unhappy. Brooke calling him her "fierce protector" made me a little sad for Rick. No child should ever be put in the position of having to be the one their parent leans on, especially at the age Rick was when he first wiped away his mother's tears as a young boy. 

The Bad:

This comment from Badley Bell in a soap magazine : “This is Brooke and Ridge's 7th wedding, but it's the 1st one with Thorsten Kaye, so in that sense, it is going to have a lot of significance!“ He is as dumb as a box of hair. There have been 10 weddings and they already had a ceremony with TK (the one where Katie faked a heart attack). No one with half a brain cell should give two shits about yet another GarBridge wedding.

Pretty much everything else. 

The Ugly:

Maya's hair - WTF was with that awful wig - the chin-length bob is all wrong for her. Her natural hair is beautiful.

This made me laugh:

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1 hour ago, reva pallett said:

why doesn't some one remind #1 ho brooke about her sleeping with her daughters husband?

You're not supposed to remember that.  Everything Ridge and Brooke do is someone else's fault.  When their latest marriage implodes, I'm sure they will blame Stephanie even though she is dead.

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18 hours ago, mightysparrow said:

And isn't ANYBODY curious about where the fuck Haudilox is?

Shhhhhh! I think they're as happy as we are not to see her.

18 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Forever. One last time. I'm getting a funny feeling about this. Is it possible they're about to kill Ridge off?

It felt very ominous.

I'm personally wishing that Sheila surfaces and off's Sludge (again) who then actually goes off with Prince Omar for a couple years only to return in the form of Ronn Moss. Now that would all be so nice.

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3 hours ago, reva pallett said:

why doesn't some one remind #1 ho brooke about her sleeping with her daughters husband?

Is there anyone here who could still do that? I think Maya is the only one who hasn't fucked over a relative and only because Roman Flynn left the show before the Zaya story they had planned could go further.

Everyone on this show is just so godawful that it gets ridiculous when any of these bints start moralizing about anything others do.

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Why is Hope asking Steffy how could she sleep with Bill?

She knows exactly how. This whole ToD began when Hope went over to Steffy's loft/love nest apartment after Bill dumped her to make sure she ground salt in the wound by dressing her down for trying to beat a Logan and she paid her back for that by constantly throwing herself at Liam until he didn't throw her back.

If anything Hope should've said:

'I knew you never loved, Liam. I knew it was always about Bill for you but that if you couldn't have him, you'd have the next best thing - his son. It was a bonus for you if got him by beating me - a Logan. Don't deny it. When the opportunity presented itself, what did you do? You chose to sleep with Bill instead of honoring the vows to your husband. Forget the kiss with Sally, if you really loved your husband the fact that he nearly died the day before would've kept you from crossing that line with Bill. You always sat in judgement of my mother and 'us' Logans when you're no better at love or fidelity yourself!'

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45 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

Is there anyone here who could still do that? I think Maya is the only one who hasn't fucked over a relative and only because Roman Flynn left the show before the Zaya story they had planned could go further.

Everyone on this show is just so godawful that it gets ridiculous when any of these bints start moralizing about anything others do.

My answer would be no, absent Pam, Charlie, (whom no one cares about anyway) and RJ (give Ridge's namesake time).

Everyone else is a liar and cheater on some level (and several serial cheaters) so nary a one has a snowball's chance in hell of gaining a foothold on the moral high ground. That includes Maya, who didn't dip her toe in a relative's inkwell - yet - but had no issues cheating with Rick when he was still married to Caroline II, justifying it because Caroline II was fooling around with Ridge at that point in time. The fact remained that they were still married and Rick had told Caroline II that they were going to work on their marriage and she cut ties with Ridge until she found out otherwise.

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On 1/31/2018 at 5:58 AM, Petunia13 said:

Yes this RJ in terms of characterization is a no for me. I think the cast needs to be edited around. With Ivy off maybe we can still recon Aly's death and she can be in Spectra where she belongs! She went to Europe for experimental coma treatment then after was in intensive physical and psych therapy. 

 

(Jeez watching old footage Steffi and Maya bullied the crap out of this poor girl who already had emotional issues. It's sad). 

This a thousand times!

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Hope shouldn't say a damn thing to Steffy, and neither should anyone else.  That includes the fools with their I know what I am talking about because I made this mistake myself crap.  Because if they had actually learned anything, they wouldn't have done it a second, third, or fourth, etc., time.

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Brooke honey I love ya, but leave Liam alone.  Just because you've lost your mind again and forgiven Sludge for the 8,476th time, doesn't mean other people can do the same.

Sludge STFU and get out of Liam's face.

Liam isn't going to forgive Hauxdi.  He keeps telling you that and you keep ignoring it.  I want Liam to tell Sludge to shut it and throw him out of his hotel room.  I want Liam to tell Sludge in no uncertain terms he cannot and will not ever forgive his ho wife for sleeping with Bill. And also let Brooke know that Sludge planned to fuck Quinn to get her away from Eric.  Basically do the same thing Hauxdi did -- so in that respect the ho doesn't fall very far from the man-ho tree.

Then I want Liam to move to a new hotel and not tell anyone where he is.

I thought nuHope and Wyatt were just the right amount of awkward with each other. Acknowledging their marriage and "leap of faith" with some sadness but also good memories.  Loved the throwaway line that Hope works in the office when Quinn isn't there.  

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On 1/31/2018 at 3:41 PM, RuntheTable said:

I had a crush on RM as a young teen during his Player days. I remember quite clearly racing home with my new album, and tearing off the plastic wrap and just wearing that vinyl out. Then, so many years later, I couldn't believe he was resurfacing in B&B. 

Meeeee toooooooo! 
/swoons

I really wish that he would come back. I love TK but RM is the only Ridge for me. I've been watching this show since the day it premiered and I always hope RM will reappear suddenly (bad wigs and all).

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1 hour ago, TobinAlbers said:

This whole ToD began when Hope went over to Steffy's loft/love nest apartment after Bill dumped her to make sure she ground salt in the wound by dressing her down for trying to beat a Logan and she paid her back for that by constantly throwing herself at Liam until he didn't throw her back.

I thought it happened when Liam stupidly rescued Steffy from that damn living room bathtub.  I remember Steffy putting Hope on alert that Liam saved her life & she’s now in love with him & intends to be with him.

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Hey Ridge, I'm sure you won't be as forgiving if Liam cheated on Stuffy.  He only forgave Thomas when rape night became misunderstanding night.  Brooke, if Bill took Hope for a bucking bronco ride, I'm sure you wouldn't be too happy. 

Ridge wouldn't know what a committed loving home is if it smacked him upside his head.  Ridge and Brooke are the shining example of a disfunction family.  

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2 minutes ago, ByTor said:

I thought it happened when Liam stupidly rescued Steffy from that damn living room bathtub.  I remember Steffy putting Hope on alert that Liam saved her life & she’s now in love with him & intends to be with him.

Hope went over to Steffy's and reamed her out. Steffy was left despondent and depressed and took a bubble bath.

Meanwhile, Bill was worried about Steffy and feeling bad for dumping her. I'm not sure but I believe he even knew about Hope going over to see Steffy and then was really worried about her so he then sent Liam over to check on her. So if Hope had stayed her ass out of it, Bill wouldn't have sent Liam over to check on Steffy.

Steffy was in the tub and slipped/conked her head. Liam knocked on the door and got no answer. He busted in and saw her arm dangling from the bathtub and lifted her out and saved her. She then looked upon him with 'new eyes' and the rest is history.

I've personally always believed that Hope going out of her way to decimate Steffy when it was not her personal battle but Katie's (but since Katie was in the hospital recovering from her heart attack) was what really kicked this off.  Hope decided that she'd take up the Logan banner and deliver the crushing sermon to Steffy herself.

Hope's condescending bitch slap was fresh in Steffy's mind as she nearly gave up the ghost.  She may have initially been grateful and latched onto Liam when he saved her due to a sincere moment of 'Damn, I nearly killed myself and I don't want to to that so thank goodness he was here' but once the sincerity faded a big part of Steffy's imprint on Liam was that it might be a way to keep Bill's attention as well as stick it to Hope. 

If you really want to get deep in it, I think what was also at work here was that Liam's presence and subsequent actions was all due to Bill's concern and love for her. He was the physical representation of Bill's love that was more acceptable at the time that it being Bill himself. None of them would ever verbalize it like that, but when Liam told her that his dad was worried about her and sent him to check on her she's going to passively process that Liam represents the only way Bill can show his love and caring and devotion and will actively respond to that by clinging to that love and the only piece of Bill she can have - his son.  Along the way Steffy convinced herself that she really did fall in love with Liam.

Now because of that buried unfinished business erupting at THE worst time, it's all become a big mess with a baby involved. Katie fortunately escaped this mess, but Liam, fool that he was to get involved with Steffy, didn't. If he had resisted the temptation of Steffy and being her rebound guy and weapon against Hope, they'd ALL have been a lot happier. Instead now he's estranged from his one remaining living parent that he adored and can't stand the sight of his baby mamma and got everyone in town putting the responsibility of his marriage and his child's welfare solely in his hands.

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5 minutes ago, TobinAlbers said:

Steffy was in the tub and slipped/conked her head. Liam knocked on the door and got no answer. He busted in and saw her arm dangling from the bathtub and lifted her out and saved her. She then looked upon him with 'new eyes' and the rest is history.

That’s what I remember. I don’t recall Steffy saying she went after Liam to get back at Hope the evil Logan.

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1 minute ago, ByTor said:

That’s what I remember. I don’t recall Steffy saying she went after Liam to get back at Hope the evil Logan.

Steffy never directly said she was going after Liam to get back at Hope but given the situation it wasn't hard to believe (at least for me) that that was part of her initial motivation.

You telling me that if Carter or Oliver or Saul had pulled Steffy out of that tub she'd have reacted the same way? Maybe she'd have glommed onto Wyatt had he been around at that time as he also would've had the Bill's peen by proxy factor. 

For me it's like with Brooke sniffing around both Eric and Thorne when the one she always thought was her destiny was Ridge. Sure Brooke had feelings for those men but THE ONE for her was always Ridge and she kept herself in proximity to him by marrying into the family. If her competition for those men just also happened to be her enemies (Stephanie and Macy) and they got hurt in the process? Oh, well.

Steffy pretty much pulled the same ploy as Brooke did with her own family. Again, neither woman has consciously ever admitted it and show hasn't explicitly laid it out, but it's there between the lines if you want it.

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