S10.E22: Reunion Part 3

[Juliegirlj]

Vicki claims that she had a very normal, happy, childhood- but I do not believe her. After that Wackadoo story about her mother going to jail for keying a motorcycle, and the way Vicki had to beg her mother to say I Love You, I think maybe her childhood and family life was a bit "hinky". Proof of that is also in how weird Vicki and her brother Billy are. I always assumed Vicki wore the pants in the relationship between her and Brooks, but things look different now, and Brooks sure seems like he has some deep seated anger issues brewing below the surface. Something still seems just off about this whole season- even before Vicki's mom died she did not seem to be herself. Is it Bravo manipulating Vicki and Brooks, or Brooks manipulating Vicki, or what?!

[bosawks]

Source?

 

You are awesome.

 

Source: Sawks, Bo. (2015)

[talula]

All Vicki wanted was a hug and casserole. Cripes!

Funny line and it showed us a lot about the depth of Vicki's personality...needy, needy, needy and do anything to get the attention and results she craves! The end justifies the means, lie, lie, lie even verbally assault your own child if she doesn't give you what she wants. There's no way Briana was going to give up on her mother and accept the devil himself, Brooks Ayers!!! Good for Briana sticking in there.

Vicki lied by mistake (?) craving desperately to get her coworkers to accept Brooks.

Edited November 2, 2015 by talula

[WireWrap]

In general I don't accept information as fact w/o proof.

Call me crazy, but that is how I operate.

I get that but we are talking about a Bravo HW show. Andy/Bravo have never allowed consise proof/evidence of anything on their shows. They love to keep things just murky enough to keep viewers talking and better yet, divided so that we will tune in next season.

[bosawks]

In general I don't accept information as fact w/o proof.

Call me crazy, but that is how I operate.

 

Hey, no harm, no foul.

 

Who would want a forum of well-adjusted and rational people; just imagine how boring that would be.  We should celebrate our collective neuroses and ill-conceived behavior.

 

I consider the fact that I'm a regular on this board all the proof of insanity that is required......

[thefog]

We saw the real Brooks emerge on WWHL. Lying. Deflecting. Playing the hurt victim.

Seeing him sweating and squirming with Andy - who obviously wasn't buying into any of his crap.

[cherry slushie]

Thanks for the summary of last night's reunion episode everyone. I cared enough to check in here but not enough to actually watch. I grew so sick of the new housewife named Cancer that I gave up watching.

 

That's "Cant-sir".

 

Now can we find out exactly how close Meghan really was with Lee Ann?  She sure got good use out of her this season, including one of the worst fake crying scenes I've ever witnessed in my life, and that includes her mentor, Tamra.  The squeak was priceless.

[Primetimer]

This lady just needs so much therapy.

Read the story

[talula]

Yeah, but, She is a fucking bitch.

IMO Vicki is the fn bitch not Briana. Briana is using the vehicle of the show her mother is in lust with to get through to her that the Svengali (Brooks) her mom thinks she craves and can't live without is a lying piece of shit heading into the sun and dragging her mother with him. Briana used tough love on her mom to break her free from the personification of evil her mother was caught up with. I think Briana with assistance from the other ladies and Andy finally got Vicki to face the music about her temporary insanity when it came to Brooks.

Yes Briana was harsh, but she needed a sledge hammer to cleave her mother away from that slimy no good Brooks.

[Bronzedog]

i really thought Brooks looked like he was trying to control his rage during the Andy interview. I thought he was so twitchy because he was furious.

[teddysmom]

I don't even watch this show any more, but it amazes me that everyone participating in any of the Real Housewives franchises don't have Emmys for acting.

90% of the bullshit on these shows is made up by the writers', probably including Brooks' cancer scam.

And yet the participants do a helluva job selling this crap.

[Bronzedog]

Even if you put Vicki on a monthly auto-delivery of casseroles plan. It wouldn't fix all that is wrong with Vicki.

[Higgins]

Whole season centering around does he or does he not have cancer sucked. Everybody came out looking bad and the worst part was that it was really boring.

 

I would never confirm or deny as a HCP. Denial may not be a Hippa violation but it is poor practice.

[Ubiquitous]

LOL, Didn't they show a clip of Vicki say something last night about a "poker waitress"? So this "girl" wasn't a "porn star/stripper" but was a waitress at a poker club and Brooks did know/date her.

The subject came up briefly, along with a clip, but I missed the details of Vicki's retort b/c it included that scene of her shrieking on the mountain and scaring away all the critters.

[Lucygirl2]

with all the cancer talk going down, I forgot to share my favorite part of the whole reunion...

 

my dog, Oliver, is the only one who will faithfully watch this shit with me, sitting by my side with no judgment & evidently I yelled at Tamra to just shut the fuck up one too many times, because he woke up, looked at me with disgust & went in to bed without me. My dog has finally had enough!

[mjstrick]

Yes, it is "skin cancer" and most people say they have skin cancer on their nose, chest, ears, where ever it is/was found. IMO, Cancer is Brooks's go to sympathy ploy with women. I suspect he is looking for them to "take care" of him without asking questions and when they do start to ask, he bails on them as fast as a rat jumping off of a sinking ship. IMO, Brooks thinks/believes he can talk/lie his way out of everything and therefore he doesn't need to prove anything. LOL

I laughed when he called it nose cancer, because I have been dealing with NHL for a couple of years (I'm in the post-surgical, get it checked for regrowth stage) now.  In my eye.  I call it eyeball cancer.  Post surgery I called it the monster eyeball, because it was hideous.   Anyhoo, he's still full of shit. 

[IKnowRight]

LOL, Didn't they show a clip of Vicki say something last night about a "poker waitress"? So this "girl" wasn't a "porn star/stripper" but was a waitress at a poker club and Brooks did know/date her.

I wonder if this woman ever waited tables by lying naked on them with food on her stomach and flowers covering her private parts?

[beesknees]

Whole season centering around does he or does he not have cancer sucked. Everybody came out looking bad and the worst part was that it was really boring.

 

I would never confirm or deny as a HCP. Denial may not be a Hippa violation but it is poor practice.

 

Finally !  Yes!  Thank you Higgins.  This was what I was so inarticulately trying to get across.

[breezy424]

Oh. I get it now.

Why didn't anyone just cite George Clooney in the first place?

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Medical doctors go on the news and interview programs all the time as experts on public figure's medical situations.  The interviewer or the doctor always state that they haven't treated this person or seen their medical records and are giving their opinion.  So yes, IMO, a doctor can deny being someone's physician without breaching HIPPA or confidentiality.

[IKnowRight]

Maybe if Tams prays on it she'll be able to forgive Brooks.

 

Oh wait, I forgot that her savior is in the "self-absolution" only business; the rest of us can suck it......

 

Well, at least Tam's forgiven, I mean not by me, Fuck You Tamra!

Thank you, excellent comment.

This is what has bothered me since Season 3 and the intro of Tamra "The hottest, (cough, bullshit) housewife of Orange County" and what that meant for this franchise. The twisted bullshitter, Tamrat, meets the delusional & needy bullshitter, Vicki, and the dastardly duo took over.

I know not everyone likes Jeana, but Vicki & Tamra's devious plots all started when they out maneuvered Jeana in order to squeeze her off the show. Of course, as all rats do, Vicki & Tamra have turned on each other from time to time, but all we have witnessed since season 3 have been the result of all their plots and back room deals. Vicki is now realizing that all the benefits she reaped were because she sold her soul to the Devil.

[njbchlover]

I wanna know what kind of limited Mexican restaurants these chicks eat at in SoCal that don't have tacos al pastor. That is a true tragedy!

 

Either way, Tamra was still pronouncing it incorrectly.  Isn't "el pastor" pronounced as it is written (L pas-TOR - with the last syllable sounding like the word "or")?  Pastor Mike should be pronounced more like "PAS-ter"....no?  

 

Tamra is just an ignorant idiot.....

Edited November 2, 2015 by njbchlover

[motorcitymom65]

Vicki brings up her mother dying.  Meg responds  with what does that have to do with you lying about Brooks?

 

I fabricated a story because I wanted attention....and casseroles. 

 

I know I'm going to heaven because I've been saved by Jesus.

 

I went with him for chemo.  I was in 'a' waiting room.   Somewhere...  I couldn't be with him.  I have to work.

 

I'm a good person.  I'm too good for Brooks.  I'm a catch.  I work.  I'm very blessed.  I have a successful business.  Did I mention I work?  But I'll fabricate stories to get sympathy for the man (and me) that I know deep in my heart is conning me.  I don't want to be alone.  Sad......

I no big fan of Meghan's, but this was my favorite part of the reunion. Vicki using her mother's death - again - as a ploy for sympathy and to get away with being an asshole. I loved how Meghan pointed out that one thing had nothing to do with the other. 

[njbchlover]

I was never convinced by Lori's weak wishy-wishy accusation that Brooks was dating or having sex or partying with a friend of her daughter's who was a stripper or porno star or cocktail waitress.

 

Edited - already answered....sorry!!  :-)

Edited November 2, 2015 by njbchlover

[Freckledbruh]

Medical doctors go on the news and interview programs all the time as experts on public figure's medical situations.  The interviewer or the doctor always state that they haven't treated this person or seen their medical records and are giving their opinion.  So yes, IMO, a doctor can deny being someone's physician without breaching HIPPA or confidentiality.

And I always consider those doctors quacks in the vein of Dr. Drew.

[njbchlover]

We saw the real Brooks emerge on WWHL. Lying. Deflecting. Playing the hurt victim.

Seeing him sweating and squirming with Andy - who obviously wasn't buying into any of his crap.

I would love to see Brooks in a room with Judge Judy....he'd drown in his own sweat after she got done grilling him!!   ;-)

That's "Cant-sir".

 

Now can we find out exactly how close Meghan really was with Lee Ann?  She sure got good use out of her this season, including one of the worst fake crying scenes I've ever witnessed in my life, and that includes her mentor, Tamra.  The squeak was priceless.

 

Meghan's fake crying was worse acting that Vivien Leigh in Gone With the Wind, when she was actually ACTING at acting at fake crying (and Rhett would have none of it).  Meghan's fake crying was worse than Tamra's, and that's pretty bad.

 

At least with Tamra, I can kind of excuse it, because of the botox probably freezing her tear ducts and nerves around that area, but I don't think that Meghan has had enough Botox (yet) for that justification.

 

And, I really don't think Meghan was as close to LeeAnn as she wants us to believe.  I do believe that they were civil and social to one another, for the sake of Jim and LeeAnn's kids, but no way in hell were they bff's!!  

Edited November 2, 2015 by njbchlover

[beesknees]

I would love to see Brooks in a room with Judge Judy....he'd drown in his own sweat after she got done grilling him!!   ;-)

 

Judge Judy needs to moderate all of the HW and TM2 Reunions.  Ditch Andy Cohen and Dr. Drew.

[Higgins]

I would love to see Brooks in a room with Judge Judy....he'd drown in his own sweat after she got done grilling him!!   ;-)

 

Meghan's fake crying was worse acting that Vivien Leigh in Gone With the Wind, when she was actually ACTING at acting at fake crying (and Rhett would have none of it).  Meghan's fake crying was worse than Tamra's, and that's pretty bad.

 

At least with Tamra, I can kind of excuse it, because of the botox probably freezing her tear ducts and nerves around that area, but I don't think that Meghan has had enough Botox (yet) for that justification.

 

And, I really don't think Meghan was as close to LeeAnn as she wants us to believe.  I do believe that they were civil and social to one another, for the sake of Jim and LeeAnn's kids, but no way in hell were they bff's!!  

Really. How long did Meghan know Leann? She is just as sick as Vicki for faking a cancer "story". Maybe sicker because someone really died of cancer and she is using it as her story.

Edited November 2, 2015 by Higgins

[njbchlover]

Even if you put Vicki on a monthly auto-delivery of casseroles plan. It wouldn't fix all that is wrong with Vicki.

 

That would be because those casseroles are not made "with love", and would only be delivered by the UPS man, so no affirmations of how well she's coping with all of the "minutia" in her life, of understanding her grieving, no hugs.....just a casserole in a stay-frozen box with a card (and, NOT a Hallmark card) with directions on how to re-heat.

 

And, speaking of minutia - does anyone else think that Vicki picked that work up somewhere recently?  It's not a very common word, and she's been using it a lot lately.  I honestly think when she says it, that she doesn't truly understand the definition.

[Bebecat]

My takeaway from the reunion is this:

 

Vicki and Brooks colluded to present a cancer story.

 

The cast members caught on and outed them.

 

Vicki, in a desperate attempt to play the victim (which she lives for) and stay on the show next season blames Brooks for tricking her into believing he was ill. She claims no prior knowledge before 3 months ago. It's all Brooks' fault. She was the victim here people!!! Don't ya see?? Feel sorry for her rather than blame her!!

 

Vicki sits on stage faking depression, acts contrite, plays the "Mom's Dead" card, and hopes the cast members and audience will forgive her so she gets another season.

 

I hate this woman and she can go fuck herself.

Yes. In a nutshell.

[motorcitymom65]

The most boring reunion ever, recapping the most boring season ever.  

 

All I really came away with is the fact that Vicki was in fact starting to question Brooks as well. It all seemed a bit "hinky" to her as she watched/didn't watch him going through his supposed treatments.  What was really interesting to me is the way that Vicki went after Shannon and Heather on social media for "demanding" to see medical records. Now we know that while she was calling them out for this, behind closed doors she was giving Brooks the exact same advice - let me see your medical records - and Brooks was refusing because he didn't want her to show them to the girls. She thought that opening up the big binder of cancer related tabs would be the smart thing to do, all the while hammering away at the others for saying the same thing.  There are so many ways in which Vicki is the ultimate reality TV asshole. 

 

Really though, I don't give two shits about Brooks or any part of a story line involving him. I don't care about Brianna either, but wow, the unhealthy dynamic between Vicki and Brianna is almost painful to watch. The way they hold each others hands, Vicki strokes Brianna's face, the talk of being best friends and of loving each other all the way to the moon and back, all the while revealing such hurtful emotions and words is just mystifying to me. How can a daughter say those things to her mother, and how could a mother have said such things to her daughter? They are the most fucked up bunch on the show and I hope I don't have to see Brianna again. 

[ButterQueen]

I am so on the fence about Vicki.

 

I do feel badly for her, in the way that one feels badly or sorry for a person who has serious issues and needs to spend a long time in therapy with a reputable therapist/psychiatrist/counselor.  She is really lacking something in her life, and whatever that is, it stems from within her, and until she can figure that out, with the help of professionals, she will never change.

 

I guess I am leaning more towards the side that Vicki did believe every piece of bullshit that Brooks threw at her.  I don't necessarily believe that she started doubting him three months prior to the filming of the reunion, unless that falls into the timeline of the taping of the last episode.  I honestly think that when Tamra and she were speaking in the limo, that was when the lightbulb went off in Vicki's head.  Yes, she lied and lied and lied again, but I think the lies were more about Vicki trying to save face on her own - not protecting Brooks' deception.  

 

Vicki is a very proud woman, but she is also very insecure.  To be able to admit, publicly, that she was duped and blinded by love must have been very difficult for her. Hopefully, this will be an awakening for Vicki that she needs help to find out why she has this obsessive need to admired, loved, put on a pedestal, etc.  She is seriously lacking self worth and self acceptance, I think.  I hope she gets the helps she needs.

 

On another topic - could Tamra and Meghan's "non-tears" have been any less fake?  Holding a tissue to your dry eyes, and forcing out a phony sob and hiccup does not make you look good!!!

This is where I am. I do feel sorry for Vicki......people cannot help how they are made, and she is unfortunately, very insecure. I still love her on the show and think she really adds to my enjoyment of the show. I hope karma kicks Brook's lying butt.

I used to love Shannon, but she was so smug on the reunion, I just couldn't stand her. And as always......Megan, get off my television.

[cherry slushie]

 

I would love to see Brooks in a room with Judge Judy....he'd drown in his own sweat after she got done grilling him!!   ;-)

 

Judge Judy : Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining, Brooks!

 

Brooks: If I pee'd on yer leg, you'd see why they call me Girth Brooks. You wanna to see it?

 

Judge Judy : No, but I'd like to see your medical records.

 

Brooks : They were in my car, but mah car caught fire on my way here.

[pamme64]

Bravo didn't pull anything out of an orifice vis-a-vis this season's prevailing narrative. It fell into their lap with Vicki moping around and peddling - as her central and predetermined narrative- the premise that stewarding Brooks through the intense toils of treatments was so hard on her. It continued with Brooks volunteering details about his treatment. Any inconsistencies and skepticism they generate are the responsibility of those communicating them.

It all goes back to that damn binder.....    

[Cherrio]

And then Briana, who worked at Hogue for several years, adds in that they have their own transcriptionists and would NOT use NL's transcriptionists as further evidence that Brooks was/is lying.

Apologies if another poster(s) has pointed this out (I have just started reading this thread) but to add on to Wirewraps post.....what cemented the fact that Brooks was lying, he added that his doctor (oncologist) works at Hoag AND Newport Imaging and that is why the report was sent to N.I.        

     First, his doctor does not WORK at Hoag's radiology dept or N.I.  Radiologists work in that dept.        The doctor orders tests to be done, then the results are sent to the doctor who ordered it. 

     Second Brooks is just stupid.

       He shows Tamara some copied and pasted piece of crap, then lies to Andy about getting the scan , where he got the scan and why it ended up at N.I.   That is 3 lies for the price of one.

        His con, which he has used OVER AND OVER AGAIN  was NOT ready for prime time.    He is not only a douchebag, but a really dumb doucnebag.

[Bobcatkitten]

I think everyone should send Vicki a casserole. It would be hilarious. Her address isn't hard to find. Also, I think Vicki is right here in this chat forum!

[ZaldamoWilder]

All of this is so true but I kind of side-eyed Heather when she said the second physician, (not the supposed IV physician friend of Terry's) but the other man that Brooks claimed was treating him told Heather "No this guy is not my patient" when she asked?  That just seems soooo wrong to me.

 

I guarantee you - my PCP is my friend, a personal friend of mine, and I know damned well that if I called him tomorrow and said "Hey is XYZ your patient?" he'd reply something to the effect "Now you know I can't divulge that information" even if XYZ was not a patient.  And that's the way it should be.  Damned right answer.  I would expect him to say exactly that.  I dunno.  Just me.  That's why I agree with Scrambled Fog.  

 

 

True!  But regarding that second physician, Brooks said nothing derogatory/inflammatory that would make that oncologist need to defend his reputation or good name so he should have just said nothing to Heather.  It just seems like its the correct, professional thing to do.

 

 

Whole season centering around does he or does he not have cancer sucked. Everybody came out looking bad and the worst part was that it was really boring.

 

I would never confirm or deny as a HCP. Denial may not be a Hippa violation but it is poor practice.

 

The problem is we don't know how Heather posed the question.   Could've been something like, hey my friend Brooks says he knows you, have you ever met him?  If I heard it in that way or something similar, at the very least I know someone is out there lying about my having treated him.  Further, I don't know what else this dude is lying about with my name in his mouth.  At that point, it's not only a matter of HIPPA not protecting non patients but of the doctor's protection of their own professional reputation.  Something he's got a right and maybe even an obligation, to do.  

 

Take it from me ya'll Brooks doesn't have cancer.  I should know, I'm a noncologist.  

Edited November 2, 2015 by ZaldamoWilder

[zoeysmom]

Brandi defends her new BFF Vicki.  I guess she doesn't think the other women will  mind be called c#nts.  http://www.allabouttrh.com/shannon-beador-trusts-husband-david-100-opens-up-about-affair-where-she-stands-now-with-vicki-gunvalson/

[JAYJAY1979]

Before I view this final part...is there a lot of screaming and yelling..or is it like the first two parts where everyone is civilized?

[Cherrio]

I heard her say she was in the waiting room for 4 hours w/ a computer.

I also heard her say she had a quick look of the treatment room.

She waffled back and forth which translates into one more LIE.    Its very easy to tell when she is lying now.  Besides the obvious, she is a liar, her voice, her mannerisms, the quick contradictions....are all clearly evident.      She did all season.

I'm probably alone in feeling sorry for Briana, but she twice mentioned that her mom called her a fucking bitch. It seemed like she was still hurting about that and wanted an apology or something. It's normal for mothers and daughters to get into it, but I can't imagine any decent mother calling her daughter a fucking bitch.

No, you are not alone. I never ever doubted Brianna. 

[beesknees]

The problem is we don't know how Heather posed the question.   Could've been something like, hey my friend Brooks says he knows you, have you ever met him?  If I heard it in that way or something similar, at the very least I know someone is out there lying about my having treated him.  Further, I don't know what else this dude is lying about with my name in his mouth.  At that point, it's not only a matter of HIPPA not protecting non patients but of the doctor's protection of their own professional reputation.  Something he's got a right and maybe even an obligation, to do.  

 

Take it from me ya'll Brooks doesn't have cancer.  I should know, I'm a noncologist.  

 

Yes, I agree with everything you say and I did think that Heather may have said something along that vein to the oncologist but I was just trying to be stabby while working my 12 hr. shift.  Now, ZW, I'ma 'bout to run over to RHOA and @#$%  about NeNe's dumb ass.

Edited November 2, 2015 by beesknees

[Thick McRunFast]

I sneezed AND my mom died 14 years ago so I need the support and casseroles more than you. Nobody has pain like mine.

Yes, but do you WORK?

 

I can see why Heather's neighbor would want to say that Brooks is not his patient. If Brooks telling people he has cancer and getting treated by Dr X at some point people might see that Brooks' story doesn't really add up and they might start to question if Dr X is a very good doctor with all the non-treatment Brooks is getting. In some cases it might be seen as unethical to flat out say someone is not a patient of their but in this case I think it's ok to say "No, this person who keeps changing his story about the treatment he's getting is not my patient." That fakey doctor who gave Brooks that blood oxygen "treatment" on camera came off as a total quack. I can see where a real doctor would want to distance him or herself from anything like that. Sort of like how Terry made it clear he never participated in any treatment of Brooks after Vicki told the casserole-seeking IV lie.

 

Edited to add: I see this was all covered as I was typing my reply. I need to get faster typing skills if I'm going to keep up with this group. :)

Edited November 2, 2015 by Thick McRunFast

[Grneyedldy]

i really thought Brooks looked like he was trying to control his rage during the Andy interview. I thought he was so twitchy because he was furious.

I thought the same.

[VioletMarx]

 

What was really interesting to me is the way that Vicki went after Shannon and Heather on social media for "demanding" to see medical records. Now we know that while she was calling them out for this, behind closed doors she was giving Brooks the exact same advice - let me see your medical records - and Brooks was refusing because he didn't want her to show them to the girls. She thought that opening up the big binder of cancer related tabs would be the smart thing to do, all the while hammering away at the others for saying the same thing.  There are so many ways in which Vicki is the ultimate reality TV asshole.

 

The difference being among Shannon, Heather and Vicki, only one of them has a right to demand anything of Brooks.

[motorcitymom65]

The difference being among Shannon, Heather and Vicki, only one of them has a right to demand anything of Brooks.

Well that, and the fact that despite what Vicki and Brooks were alleging, no one ever "demanded" anything of Brooks. They posed a question and made a recommendation.  The same one that Vicki apparently made. 

[LNDNgirl]

I sneezed AND my mom died 14 years ago so I need the support and casseroles more than you. Nobody has pain like mine.

I'm sorry but Kim Richards is in 100% pain.  I think she wins over everybody.

 

(Sorry to hear about your mom btw)

[WireWrap]

I wonder if this woman ever waited tables by lying naked on them with food on her stomach and flowers covering her private parts?

Or if Vicki went and lectured her about getting an "education"! LOL

[autumnh]

I pretty done with this show. The whole RH franchise has a ridiculous storyline.

 

I know it is television and well, reality television but WTF is any of this the ladies business?

 

I don't like Brooks, I think he is a snake..but at what point does a person have to prove anything to anyone in a case like this? I like Shannon but she got on my last nerve last night..and Meghan..please go...just go go go.

[bichonblitz]

Vicki tried everything to excuse her behavior.

 

- Her Mom died

- She was afraid of Brooks

- She's been abused by Brooks

 

 

You forgot:

-She doesn't want to be alone

-She believed Brooks

-She didn't believe Brooks

-She didn't take any Xanax before the reunion

-She did take half a Xanax before the reunion

[ButterQueen]

Call any hospital and ask for George Clooney's room.  I guarantee you they will say they don't have a patient by that name if there is no patient by that name in the hospital.  If you call a particular doctor's office and ask if so and so is a patient they may by policy say that cannot confirm or deny if someone is  a patient but it is not a law or a rule.  If a practitioner is asked if George Clooney is his patient and he is not George's doctor he can say he is not treating George.  A simpler way of looking at it is if someone asked Terry if he performed a rhinoplasty on George Clooney-Terry is within his right to say George Clooney is not a patient and/or her has never treated him.  If Terry had performed a rhinoplasty he would most likely cite patient confidentiality.

My husband is a medical doctor. He gives zero info on patients. Won't deny or confirm.

[VioletMarx]

 

Well that, and the fact that despite what Vicki and Brooks were alleging, no one ever "demanded" anything of Brooks. They posed a question and made a recommendation.  The same one that Vicki apparently made.

I don't know, I think talking an hour a week on television about someone's diagnosis and questioning whether or not its real is pretty close to a demand. 

 

It sucked that Meghan didn't get any heat for her completely inappropriate investigation into a virtual stranger's health. Whatever was the truth was, it wasn't anywhere close to her business.

 

This was my first season watching this show, so I've clearly missed a lot of Vicki's awfulness (and I have no doubt that it exists - there's not a decent, normal person on any of these shows), but Meghan especially pushed my buttons. Shannon is lucky that Meghan shifted her mean girl focus to Vicki. I have a feeling it will return to Shannon next season.