NFL Thread

[ElDosEquis]

Still, the best 60 minute playoff game was the Sandy Aygo/Miami  OT go round back in 82.

The Packers/Cowboys game was the best 2 minute ending ever.

[Jx223]

44 minutes ago, ganesh said:

Neither does my mother, nor should they know. He's a grown man. 

Yeah, but what I am saying don't  seem to know much about that part of his life (or that maybe much about his life right now). So how they can "judge" him on something they don't know about like people like are accusing them of? They weren't judgemental towards the son that went on the Bachelorette so why would they care if Aaron dates an actress. Is dating an actress "worse" than going on a reality show to compete against a bunch of other men to win the affection of stranger? They supported that son and there is also a third son they seem to get along with. The odd man out here is Aaron. Who has multiple people including former teammates criticize his attitude.

There is smoke and it's coming from Aaron's direction. I think it would be better if people left his parents alone. Unless it comes out they are terrible people/did something really bad to him. They are not the ones that are really in the spotlight and they haven't really asked for that.

Edited January 16, 2017 by Jx223

[Danny Franks]

Just now, Jx223 said:

I don't think his parents have ever said anything bad about Olivia Munn. I don't think they really know anything about her. I think that some people may just think his parents dislike her because he reportedly cut his family off around the time he started dating her. I actually think his family would treat her well if they met her/had the chance to meet her.

Heck, they were ultimately cool when their younger son was on a reality tv to find love with a stranger. If they were find with that, I don't see why they would have an issue with Aaron dating an actress. I don't think they are estranged because he decided to date Olivia and I don't think Olivia intentionally tried to cause a rift in that family. I think that Aaron may largely be responsible for the rift because of his attitude/personality. 

From what I've seen, his parents are far from nice, supportive people. Telling the press family business, after Rodgers has made it clear he doesn't want it out there, and doing it a day before he plays the Cowboys in the playoffs? Siding with his brother over more airing of family business on that reality show, including setting places at the family table for Rodgers and Munn, just to make it clear to the cameras that they weren't there?

I've read accounts that they weren't happy with Munn talking about her and Aaron's sex life, and they are very strict, conservative christians. Which, when coupled with the other son trying to kick-start a career through reality TV, makes them seem a little hypocritical. It seems like there may be a lot of resentment in that family, over a number of issues.

But all I know for sure is that Aaron Rodgers isn't the one trying to put his relatives on the spot in the press. 

I find it bizarre, that so many people think a Quarterback has to have a certain type of personality, has to act a certain way. Years of people having a go at Joe Flacco for not being fiery enough, and Rodgers for not being a rah-rah leader type, who embraces all his teammates. It's only QBs who get called out for this, and I think it's BS. It seems to me that Rodgers is just a more introverted guy, who doesn't choose to socialise with that many people. And the likes of Jermichael Finlay and Greg Jennings apparently weren't his cup of tea. It doesn't escape my notice that most of the guys who have criticised him have axes to grind with the Packers, either.

[Ohwell]

9 minutes ago, Crs97 said:

Enjoy:

 

http://lockerdome.com/happygilmore/6170048381332289/9450408473346320

Not only did he murder those poor Cowboys, he also butt-fucked Jerry Jones.  He must be apprehended!

[mojoween]

14 minutes ago, Crs97 said:

Enjoy:

 

http://lockerdome.com/happygilmore/6170048381332289/9450408473346320

The picture of him poking out through the hole Odell made in the locker room wall is going to give me the giggles for the rest of time.

[BitterApple]

8 minutes ago, Danny Franks said:

It seems to me that Rodgers is just a more introverted guy, who doesn't choose to socialise with that many people. And the likes of Jermichael Finlay and Greg Jennings apparently weren't his cup of tea. It doesn't escape my notice that most of the guys who have criticised him have axes to grind with the Packers, either.

I agree. It's like any work environment. There's people you click with immediately and others you tolerate but wouldn't want to spend five minutes with outside the job. Some people are very social with their colleagues, others prefer not to mix work with business. I remember back when Kobe Bryant was criticized by his teammates for not hanging out with them outside of basketball. Introverts are often misjudged as aloof and snobby, when the reality is they just don't enjoy the company of a large crowd. I'm a similar personality myself.

[Jx223]

26 minutes ago, Danny Franks said:

From what I've seen, his parents are far from nice, supportive people. Telling the press family business, after Rodgers has made it clear he doesn't want it out there, and doing it a day before he plays the Cowboys in the playoffs? Siding with his brother over more airing of family business on that reality show, including setting places at the family table for Rodgers and Munn, just to make it clear to the cameras that they weren't there?

I've read accounts that they weren't happy with Munn talking about her and Aaron's sex life, and they are very strict, conservative christians. Which, when coupled with the other son trying to kick-start a career through reality TV, makes them seem a little hypocritical. It seems like there may be a lot of resentment in that family, over a number of issues.

But all I know for sure is that Aaron Rodgers isn't the one trying to put his relatives on the spot in the press. 

I find it bizarre, that so many people think a Quarterback has to have a certain type of personality, has to act a certain way. Years of people having a go at Joe Flacco for not being fiery enough, and Rodgers for not being a rah-rah leader type, who embraces all his teammates. It's only QBs who get called out for this, and I think it's BS. 

They really haven't said much of anything other than they are estranged from him and his dad made a reference to him thinking fame had something to do with it. Maybe one big reason set the places at the dinner table because they wanted him and Olivia to show him up. I get the feeling they would treat her decently if they met her. They could have tried to discourage the younger son from airing more of the family business on tv but he too is an adult and was going to do what he wanted to do. And they ended up showing up on the show and supported him when he kept advancing on it.

Regarding their religious views as far as I know they haven't publicly say that is the reason they are estranged from Aaron or mentioned being upset about him discussing his love life. That seems like it may just be rumblings whereas you can actually list names of people who have complained about Aaron's attitude.

And as far as thinking a QB should have a certain type of attitude I have supported/had no issue with several QB's/players who the media has criticized for not having "ideal" personalities. (And it does happen to other players besides QBs) I love Cam, don't have a problem with Jay Cutler's subdued personality, think TO should be in the HOF and supported Johnny Manziel as long as I could until his career went down in flames. I also think that a lot of the criticism Odell gets is unwarranted. Though some people do think that QBs/players and should all behave in a similar fashion. And they do get criticize for that from those people. And sometimes they will get criticized from people who don't think that. 

Edited January 16, 2017 by Jx223

[ganesh]

20 minutes ago, Danny Franks said:

I find it bizarre, that so many people think a Quarterback has to have a certain type of personality, has to act a certain way. Years of people having a go at Joe Flacco for not being fiery enough, and Rodgers for not being a rah-rah leader type, who embraces all his teammates. It's only QBs who get called out for this, and I think it's BS.

It's basically if you're not Ray Lewis THIS IS MY HOUSE then you're "not committed to the game" or some such nonsense. I'm sure they're all happy enough for Rodgers leading them to the NFC championship though.

[wingster55]

15 hours ago, mojoween said:

Atlanta is in trouble if Julio Jones is hurt.

 

He's fine-ish. He's had that toe injury all season. 

[Jx223]

It's being reported by nfl.com and the Hollywood Reporter. that the Packers/Cowboys is the most watched divisional game ever. It's being reported that the telecast averaged 48.5 million viewers and peaked at over 62 million viewers during the last few minutes of the game when the Cowboys tied it. That is great. I like seeing football games get very good ratings. I know there was concern this year about the ratings but I really believe the election had a lot to do with the dip earlier.

Some of the Cowboys nationally televised games have been the highest watched games this year. Even though some people wouldn't have liked a Cowboys/Patriots Super Bowl I do think that would have drew really high ratings. I also think that the Packers/Patriots could get pretty high ratings even though some of us would like a different matchup.

Edited January 16, 2017 by Jx223

[basiltherat]

I love the Packers, but I really appreciate Dak.  I don't believe he is to blame for the loss --- the Pack almost did it to themselves.  Two bad defenses, two great offenses make for a real nail-biter!

I loathe and despise both the Pats and Steelers, but Tomlin calling Pats a**holes --well, dude is poking the bear.  Did he not see what they did this season after Pretty Boy's suspension?  Steelers are thugs and they will trip over their own selves while Bill snickers and twirls his mustache.  Only Hail Mary Rodgers can save the day!

[Silver Raven]

4 hours ago, ebk57 said:

I will never, ever, ever, ever, never, ever root for the Colts.  

Never

This is my feeling towards the Raiders.  I don't care that they came back.  And it's even worse because all of the rest of my family is still fans, and will probably still be fans of the Las Vegas Raiders.

 

Kelce needs to shut his mouth.

[Calvada]

As for Aaron Rodgers' private life, I think it should be just that - private.  I have no idea what's going on there, nor do I care.   I must say though that if I were famous I sure as hell wouldn't want my family taking it public to People Magazine, the New York Times, etc.  And the two former Packers who have said anything about him - Greg Jennings and Jermichael Finley - pfft.  Both spent their time with the Packers with an overinflated sense of their own worth, and were so jealous of any attention Rodgers got.  I think the Packers would have tolerated Finley, who had such enormous potential (although what was said of him most was that he needed to grow up), but they didn't blink an eye in letting Greg Jennings go in free agency. 

I find it hysterical that one of the Steelers posted something in which their coach is warning them about social media  I don't think what Tomlin said is anything outrageous, that it is probably the usual type of locker room talk, but I'm sure the Hoodie will find a way to use it to motivate his team. 

[BitterApple]

9 minutes ago, Calvada said:

 

I find it hysterical that one of the Steelers posted something in which their coach is warning them about social media  I don't think what Tomlin said is anything outrageous, that it is probably the usual type of locker room talk, but I'm sure the Hoodie will find a way to use it to motivate his team. 

I agree. Tomlin's off the hook with me, but Antonio Brown is a total dumb ass. The Steelers record against the Pats is indication enough that you don't want Tom Brady playing pissed off with a point to prove. It didn't end well for most teams in the regular season and likely won't end well for the Steelers on Sunday. 

[Crs97]

Why would his parents discuss in detail the problem when they can just vaguely say "Fame changes people" and let everyone's imaginations run?  I am impressed with Aaron keeping it private, just as I was impressed when he handled himself well during the draft when he had to sit in the place of honor while he was passed over and when he refused to out Brett Fabre for being a jerk to him once he finally was drafted.

[nowandlater]

3 hours ago, Jx223 said:

From what I have seen/heard of Aaron's Rodgers family they seem like nice regular people. Of course I don't know him or his family but I wonder if he did let fame get to him to the point to where he decided to cut his family off. He has been accused by multiple people of being arrogant, above it all. Including former teammates.

For the record:

Rodgers started dating Olivia Munn in early 2014.

He stopped talking to his family at the end of 2014, as his dad confirmed to the NY Times.

2014 was also the year that Rodgers was named MVP.

So Rodgers has played exceptionally well and been ho-hum during the time of not speaking to his family and dating Olivia Munn. His struggles may or may not have anything to do with his family or Munn.

Here are some other things of note:

Older brother Luke Rodgers, whom Aaron used to live with in San Diego early in his Packers career, used his brother's fame to start a sports merchandising company. He also has gigs with CBS Sports and 24/7 Sports as an "NFL insider."

Younger brother Jordan Rodgers was once close to Aaron, who would attend his Vanderbilt games during bye weeks and work out with him in the offseason.

I don't know if this had anything to do with the rift, but Jordan Rodgers allegedly cheated on Olivia Munn's trainer/good friend.

I should point out that while his family seems nice, it was they who invited ABC Network Television to film them at their house while they left 2 empty chairs for Aaron and Olivia. They're the ones who put the rift on The Bachelorette. They could've lied or said no comment. Heck, nobody forced his dad to talk to The New York Times.

There are all sorts of rumors: Was the Rodgers family pissed that Munn talked about their sex life on Watch What Happens Live? But if that's the case, why do they support another son going on The Bachelorette? Maybe Rodgers -- who has become almost a vegan, lives in West Hollywood with Munn, who golfed with Obama during the offseason, and who received a personal letter from Obama after Rodgers denounced a Packers fan for slamming Muslims -- has become too liberal or less Christian for his family. Again, it's all speculation.

 

Other random things to note, which may or may not mean anything:

--The Bachelor/ette was created and executive produced by Mike Fleiss, who like Rodgers is a Cal alum. In fact, Fleiss was sports editor of UC Berkeley's student newspaper, The Daily Cal, in the '80s, where he'd cover the Cal football team. Fleiss' assistant sports editor was Mike Silver, whom you may know from the NFL Network. (On a random note, Silver and Golden State Warriors coach Steve Kerr were co-sports editors of their high school newspaper.)

--Rodgers' only known previous girlfriend was a woman from his hometown of Chico named Destiny Newton. When 60 Minutes profiled Rodgers a few years back, they noted that she was his girlfriend, even though he declined to discuss his personal life. Destiny Newton's older sister, Shawntel Newton, appeared on The Bachelor in 2 different seasons -- one as one of the finalists, and another season to "crash" the show. Newton was The Bachelor star who worked in a funeral home, and apparently her family was close with Rodgers' family.

 

As for former teammates who hate on Rodgers, they are usually either Greg Jennings, Donald Driver or Jermichael Finley.

Read this article, which came out 2 days before the last Packers lost: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2676645-can-aaron-rodgers-be-the-type-of-leader-the-packers-need

It's filled with Finley slamming Rodgers' leadership skills.

Look, Rodgers isn't a rah-rah type leader. He frequently credits Charles Woodson with being the leader of the 2010 Packers Super Bowl team.

But if Rodgers was so terrible a leader, I don't think they would be where they are today.

Edited January 16, 2017 by nowandlater

[mojoween]

Just shut up and catch his touchdowns, boys.  Otherwise I don't care what you have to say.

For the record, I love Rodgers and when they aren't playing the Giants, I love the Pack.  It appears from a cursory check of social media that is a very unpopular opinion, but I don't care.

Every interview I've heard from Aaron and even when he was on Jeopardy!, he has come across as very funny and charming.  Fuck, he even might have yelled out "Stugotz" in his cadence last week against the Giants.

In a fight between Aaron and his family, I'm going to pick Aaron.

[xaxat]

I'm tired of the media's obsession with "bulletin board" material. It's so high school.

(Media about player X) "Did you hear what he said?!"

(Media to player Y) "Did you hear what he said about you?"

(Media back to player X) "Did you hear what he said about what you said?"

Will Brady be motivated by Brown's video? Perhaps. But even if the Steelers didn't say a single word this week I'm pretty sure he'd be able to find a way to get up for this game. He's got a memory of slights like Michael Jordan. He's still pissed about not starting at Michigan.

If the Steelers lose to the Patriots, it won't be because of that video. It will be because Brady is the best quarterback I've ever seen.

Edited January 16, 2017 by xaxat

[ganesh]

4 minutes ago, mojoween said:

Just shut up and catch his touchdowns, boys.  Otherwise I don't care what you have to say.

And I'm someone who is first in line supporting athletes want to make political statements. But yeah. Your family is your family and you handle it however you want. 

6 minutes ago, xaxat said:

Will Brady be motivated by Brown's video? Perhaps. But even if the Steelers didn't say a single word this week I'm pretty sure he'd be able to find a way to get up for this game.

They're probably laughing about it. It's the AFC championship game. I'm sure both teams can find ample motivation. 

[merylinkid]

I was okay with Rodgers until yesterday when he was playing with his chin strap unbuckled.   He had a smirk on his face like "yeah, I don't need to secure my helmet, you ain't gonna get to me anyway."    I am not a fan of taking out players.   But I so wanted a Cowboy to knock his helmet off his damn head.

[Calvada]

Aaron Rodgers also does a ton of charity work, especially for children with cancer.  I've seen interviews with the kids and their families Rodgers visits in a hospital or surprises at their homes, and it is obvious how much it meant to those children.  I know he is one of many, many professional athletes who do the same type of thing, and I don't think they can fake that type of caring time after time, so this tells me Aaron is a good guy. 

[Carey]

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If the Steelers lose to the Patriots, it won't be because of that video. It will be because Brady is the best quarterback I've ever seen.

Absolutely. And it won't be over having a late game the week before the Conference Championship game either.  Sure it sucks, but they've been doing teh Saturday/Sunday thing forever. It's nothing new. Moreover, as mentioned, the Chiefs/Steelers game would have been at 4:40 had it not been for the fact the Cowboys & Packers were the other Sunday game. But it's not a big deal. The game was on Sunday. It wasn't Monday night, life is not fair. Time change isn't a reason it'll be an excuse, period

Of course, the second they moved the game on Friday, I figured that it wasn't a one-time thing. No surprise that something beyond anyone's control would turn into a work in progress.  The thing is that it should be before a holiday; if there's an 8:20 game featuring crap ass teams like this years Raiders & Texans, no one would watch on a work night

[Constantinople]

Any player who complains about having Aaron Rodgers as their QB deserves to spend the rest of their career on the Browns or the Jags.

[Perfect Xero]

10 hours ago, wingster55 said:

He's fine-ish. He's had that toe injury all season. 

Also, he missed two games this season and Atlanta scored over 40 points in each game.

[MarkHB]

Hilarious moment during The Celebrity Apprentice this week: Ricky Williams saying "I have some contacts in the cannabis industry." 

[mojoween]

I have heard some scuttlebutt that part of the criticism of what Antonio Brown did is Tomlin calling the Patriots assholes and using the word fuck.

Are those things wrong?  Because I do them in my sleep.

And anyone who has a problem with coaches cursing needs to put the pearls down and watch something else.

[caracas1914]

My one take  on the Aaron Rogers/family rift.

It seems that the argument of some is Aaron Rogers is a genuinely nice person, so he must in the right and his family are the assholes. ...i.e...The Rogers family are genuinely nice people ergo they must be  in the right and Aaron is the asshole..

Well in real life you can have genuinely nice people on BOTH SIDES who for whatever reasons do get estranged and not in good terms.  It happens.    Family dynamics is complicated and if anything, being hurt within the family is worse then a perceived slight from people you're not as close to. 

Of course you can have assholes on both sides which I'm assuming isn't the case here...

 

I don't get Antonio Brown releasing Tomlin's videotaped speech on social media.  Sure, Coaches and players do things behind closed doors, but deliberately doing something he knows the coach wanted to keep private within the team...

[Fukui San]

I think Brown was broadcasting on Facebook Live, so he didn't know in particular that his coach would say "Don't say anything on social media", though any player should know that by now. 

If this was a Snickers commercial, Tomlin would go on to say something like "...and whatever you do, make sure you don't let on how bad Ben is hurt and also that we found out that whenever the right guard scratches his butt it's always a running play."

[MarkHB]

2 hours ago, mojoween said:

I have heard some scuttlebutt that part of the criticism of what Antonio Brown did is Tomlin calling the Patriots assholes and using the word fuck.

Are those things wrong?  Because I do them in my sleep.

And anyone who has a problem with coaches cursing needs to put the pearls down and watch something else.

I don't have a problem with Tomlin calling the Patriots assholes.  In this particular case I don't even have a problem with Brown broadcasting it, because the most likely result is that he pissed off Tom Brady and there's a decent chance it will bite them in the ass.

In the general case and employing a more responsible moral compass, I would say that no one should be live broadcasting from their locker room, ever.  That's your team's space and what goes on there is none of our business.

And Aaron Rodgers' brother wound up with the most boring Bachelorette, ever.  So there's that.

[stealinghome]

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In the general case and employing a more responsible moral compass, I would say that no one should be live broadcasting from their locker room, ever.  That's your team's space and what goes on there is none of our business.

Yeah, that for me is where Brown made a misstep. I don't have a problem with what Tomlin said or that he cursed--I mean, what he said was pretty damn tame in my view!--but Brown shouldn't have been live broadcasting from the locker room period. Instead, he should have been paying more attention to his coach when his coach was giving the team a motivational speech and firing them up for next week.  And doubly so if the Steelers have a rule against live broadcasting from their locker room, which I think Tomlin said today that they do. There is absolutely no excuse for breaking the rules like that on the eve of a huge playoff game.

I'm a little surprised at how hard the Steelers have come down on AB publicly, though. I completely understand why they'd be frustrated with him and feel like he's causing an unnecessary distraction, but to have Tomlin and Roethlisberger both call him out--Tomlin pretty strongly--seems like it would just prolong the distraction.

[basiltherat]

Wouldn't Tomlin have known if some guy was "recording" him?   I thought that it was illegal in some states to record people without their permission. You usually hear this in regards to telephone or in-person conversations.  Is "recording" or "live-ing" illegal everywhere else, but OK on the internet?

Well, the only person happy about this kerfuffle (besides the Pats) is Odell, because we now have a new goat!  (Has anyone see Beebz lately?)

[Carey]

Odell is probably improving his golf game or enjoying himself somehow else in Miami since there's no sense of urgency for the guy to return back to New York in a timely fashion.

Someone echoed a thought I had with Tomlin, where he probably has to be somewhat responsible for this nonsense.  Not truly at fault, but when AB was getting in trouble left and right with his on-field behavior and not doing anything about it, that gave AB the "freedom" to be able to do whatever with no consequence.  That's a shame; if Mike had forced some discipline on Antonio, maybe this doesn't happen.  This being yet another league violation shows that it's a much bigger issue than stated.  In that I mean "a much bigger issue" than people think.

One of several reasons why I remain among the handful of people that totally respect and admire Coach Belichick and the Patriots organization.  I guess I couldn't tell you where Antonio would end up had he pulled this stunt in New England, but Bill setting the rules is less of him being "an ass" and more of him promoting common sense. At least that's how I see it!

[mojoween]

Aaron Rodgers was on LeBatard today and they showed a replay of Cook making that great catch at the end of the game and I had not noticed this before, but in the background Aaron is standing on his tippy-toes, like he is mimicking what Cook has to do with his feet to make to make sure they are both in bounds.  I love that.  So often you you just get the one shot of the person who is immediately involved and don't get to see all the extra stuff.

[nowandlater]

So People magazine yesterday made note that Aaron Rodgers was "visibly absent" from his family's Christmas vacation.

http://thebiglead.com/2017/01/18/people-magazine-doesnt-understand-that-aaron-rodgers-has-a-job/

[Calvada]

The Minnesota Vikings probably wish he had been "visibly absent" from Lambeau Field on Dec. 24. 

I don't understand why this is such a huge story.  Is the brother (what's his name - Jordan?) out of money?  Is that why he's selling this to People Magazine?  Here's my advice for him.  Grow up.  Get a job.  Support yourself without exploiting your connection to a famous athlete.  Learn the meaning of privacy.  Shut the hell up. 

Antonio Brown should not be live broadcasting anything, anywhere, ever, when the people he is broadcasting do not know he is doing so.  My advice to him is also to grow up and learn the meaning of privacy. 

[nowandlater]

16 hours ago, Calvada said:

I don't understand why this is such a huge story.  Is the brother (what's his name - Jordan?) out of money?  Is that why he's selling this to People Magazine?  Here's my advice for him.  Grow up.  Get a job.  Support yourself without exploiting your connection to a famous athlete.  Learn the meaning of privacy.  Shut the hell up.

It's a big story because The Bachelor/ette is big...The Bachelor premiered 15 years ago (March 2002). Just 2 months before American Idol, which is dead. Yet while The Bachelor/ette fell out of favor, there has been a resurgence the past few years. It's become buzz-worthy. It's like sports for women.

So having a "champion" in The Bachelor/ette world related to a former champion in the football world combines for a really big entertainment/pop-culture story, which is why People/Us Weekly/Perez Hilton, etc are all over it.

The Bachelor is so big that Mel Kiper has a Bachelor big board. ESPN (and former Grantland) NFL expert Bill Barnwell does a Bachelor podcast. (It doesn't hurt that ESPN and The Bachelor are corporate siblings.) Bill Simmons' The Ringer has also been all over Bachelor coverage.

[MarkHB]

18 hours ago, Calvada said:

I don't understand why this is such a huge story.  Is the brother (what's his name - Jordan?) out of money?  Is that why he's selling this to People Magazine?

Let's not turn this into over-discussion of The Bachelor/ette itself, but I think getting paid in exchange for an exclusive with People or Us may be one of the chief ways the contestants can monetize their appearance on the show (and hey, it's not like TPTB weren't monetizing them).  It struck me most clearly when Jake Pavelka and his "winner" broke up, as they signed with different magazines and the checkout aisles had (IIRC) People talking about how he had been wronged, and Us with banner headlines about what a snake he was and what a saint she is.

We now return you to the remainder of the NFL Playoffs :) .

[Danny Franks]

On 19/01/2017 at 2:59 AM, Calvada said:

The Minnesota Vikings probably wish he had been "visibly absent" from Lambeau Field on Dec. 24. 

I don't understand why this is such a huge story.  Is the brother (what's his name - Jordan?) out of money?  Is that why he's selling this to People Magazine?  Here's my advice for him.  Grow up.  Get a job.  Support yourself without exploiting your connection to a famous athlete.  Learn the meaning of privacy.  Shut the hell up. 

It seems to me that his brother harbours resentment, which boiled out during his attempt to become a reality TV star (as if that show is about "finding love"). Perhaps because Aaron got into the NFL and became a success, and Jordan wasn't good enough. But he's still been happy to use Aaron's name to make money, as was the other brother. The parents don't seem to have had a problem with this. Perhaps Aaron wasn't happy to be thought of as the family cash cow.

I'm sure Aaron isn't completely innocent in all this. I'm sure his ego contributed to the estrangement in some way. But you don't cut your family out of your life for some petty, trivial, selfish reason, which seems to be the main argument that pins the blame on Aaron.

Although, if the one about Aaron 'converting' to liberalism and upsetting his conservative parents is true? Fucking hilarious. Good for him, and for Olivia Munn, if she aided the process. That would just make me want him to win a second ring even more.

Also, the fact that this is all blowing up now, as Rodgers is preparing to go into the NFC Championship Game, is unforgivable of the family. They made this news, either to get themselves some exposure or to hurt Aaron. He doesn't want to be famous, as evidenced by his almost total lack of a public persona. Baby bro is so desperate to be famous he was prepared to turn his love life into reality TV.

Edited January 20, 2017 by Danny Franks

[bosawks]

Certainly airing it out the week of the NFC championship doesn't seem the behavior of anyone who is interested in any sort of rapprochement.

Whoever is at fault I still think it's the responsibility of the parents to act like parents.

[Constantinople]

Woody Johnson has been nominated to be the next ambassador to the UK

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/01/19/trump-names-n-y-jets-owner-woody-johnson-as-ambassador-to-u-k.html

Not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing for the Jets, but the Jets being the Jets...

[MarkHB]

Hey, New York football fans, the Jets are moving to London! But don't despair, the NFL is going to give you the Jaguars as an AFC replacement!

[Carey]

I think Trump naming Woody Johnson to as UK ambassador is like when Obama named Dan Rooney ambassador to Ireland nearly a decade ago.  It's a nice honor, but it shouldn't have a complete effect to the Jets.  However, the Steelers are a much, much better-managed organization than New York, and had proper people in place to make sure things ran well.  The New York Jets? I guess we'll have to wait and see.  It's still a great honor that one would really find difficult to pass up

[Moose135]

How involved is Johnson in the day to day operations of the Jets? I remember reading about the Rooney appointment, and he had turned over most of his team duties to his son by the time he was named ambassador.

[Fukui San]

In all honesty the Jets may improve if Woody Johnson is too busy to meddle, like the Cowboys improved when people started being able to say "no" to Jerry Jones' impulses. The Tebow acquisition, the "win now" attitude that short circuits any proper rebuild, the firing of the GM while retaining Rex Ryan and forcing Ryan on any prospective GM. Those bad ideas are said to be Woody's ideas.  Woody's absence would be addition by subtraction.

[DrSpaceman73]

Colts fire Grigson but keep Pagano and no word on a replacement for Grigson.  Rumors still swirling about Manning in some capacity, but probably not as GM.  More of a president of football operations or some such title. 

And now the players, even guys like Pat McAfee and Reggie Wayne, are speaking out about Grigson, saying it should have happened long ago, it was a long time coming, etc (about Grigson)

 

Ugghhhhh........at least its a start. 

[xaxat]

Those Pat McAfee tweets are pretty brutal. Accusing Grigson of not only being a bad GM, but a bad person as well.

I don't understand why Irsay is keeping Pagano. What GM prospect is going to want to inherit him?

[stealinghome]

Maybe Irsay wants to keep a sacrificial lamb on hand for next season? I wouldn't be surprised if part of his pitch to the new GM is "deal with a year of Pagano and then we'll bring in someone you like."

[Jx223]

That was a good first drive by Atlanta. Well executed and fast paced. They are bringing a high energy to this game. I think that Green Bay will definitely try and match them and  try go toe to toe with them in this game.

Edited January 22, 2017 by Jx223

[mojoween]

Green Bay is hurting my very soul right now.  Stop making mistakes!

[Jx223]

It will be interesting to see if Green Bay can try and get something going and make this game more competitive in the second half. But right now Atlanta is really dominating this game. Not only is their offense playing very well but their defense has gotten some turnovers. They have also been able to get to Aaron. He is taking some hard hits today.

Edited January 22, 2017 by Jx223