S10.E03: Whine Country

[bravofan27]

Aw Terry can just build a girlfriend from spare parts left at his office.  

Last year I looked up the contracts.  It does very, very well.  I don;t know that Shannon has a trust fund as her mother is still alive.  The money comes from her mother's side.

David has made bank. Shannon's trust fund could keep her comfortable but not wealthy. She needs David to be wealthy. 

Meghan has stated that she hails from a large Catholic family. Mass adheres to a pretty consistent, non-varying one-hour format. Very disparate from conservative Protestant service that prevail in Southern California.

 

I get it. Catholic masses are at most an hour. So sitting in church for 4 hours does not make a lick of sense to me either. You do the mass, do what Jesus did, and then you get blessed an go home. Why does all the other shit have to last so long? I feel the same way Meghan does. 

[Lady Grump]

These women may be my favorite of the RH franchise, just because things are never too serious.....

 

Meghan? i like her. And, I think she is GORGEOUS! I wish I looked like her.She's classically pretty, with an injection of european jolie laide......it's tough to explain. Long neck? Where I'm from, that is awesome. If only she were a ballerina...nobody would be shading her lovely neck. And I love her deep(er) voice. From this vantage point, I think she's  all right.

 

Loved seeing Lizzie and her hot husband;THRILLED that Vickie wasn't around...

 

As far as Tamara's conversion? Heck, good for her. I think organized religion is a thing of the past, but hey, if it's doing something for her, good for her. If she needs that rule book to make her a nice person, then, hells bells, who am I to shit on that? I do think it is weird, though, that Christian people have a problem with it, because isn't the whole religion about forgiveness and love? So, she said "suck it"...who cares.....according to Christian doctrine, we're supposed to take her as she is, because she is a child of God, right? so....don't get the hate about her conversion....

 

Terry and Heather are awful, though. Hypocrites. SO status conscious. Those two are bereft of self awareness.

 

Shannon? She shouldn't have signed on for this season,but, I'm also not gonna hate....she is going though some shit, so, I can't bring myself to judge her on this....

[IKnowRight]

David has made bank. Shannon's trust fund could keep her comfortable but not wealthy. She needs David to be wealthy. 

I get it. Catholic masses are at most an hour. So sitting in church for 4 hours does not make a lick of sense to me either. You do the mass, do what Jesus did, and then you get blessed an go home. Why does all the other shit have to last so long? I feel the same way Meghan does.

I don't live in CA but she can't find a Catholic Church there? Funny, when my brother lived in La Jolla for 10+ years the Catholic Church near his home was pretty much like all the other ones I attend, no longer than an hour. If she meant what she said why is she backtracking in her blog? She's going with damage control in her blog on this subject, all positive, the opposite of what she said in her talking head. Maybe her Catholic mom & dad gave her a ring...

Anyone that calls Tamra her mentor this early on has a plan.

[Mountainair]

Meant to touch on Tamra and her arrival at the Inn earlier but she made a comment that Eddie is

upset she hasn't changed her name yet and listed all the reasons why. I get the hoops you have to jump through can be time consuming but if you are so over your ex shouldn't you at least change your name back to its maiden form if nothing else? I would, regardless of the hoops. Also, I don't spread myself so thin financially that I have a kazillion credit cards to switch over, as she mentioned.

I didn't mind Lizzie last year. Her parenting and snide comments towards her husband on camera left a lot to be desired but I cracked the hell up when Tamara was fishing for boob compliments and Lizzie's talking head had her sing-songing, "someone got new boobs"

[sasha206]

I think Shannon is definitely a weirdo, but that fake fight Meghan tried to start was unbearable to watch.  I hate how often the new housewives turn the show into a self parody with an imagined slight and confrontation.  Next time, reschedule the trip so Vicki can come whoop it up.

 

Maybe I'm projecting, but I think the editors were enjoying how awkward, dorky, and annoying Heather can be, like with that short clip of her trying to wrap up the brunch (or whatever it was) and move the party to the bus, or showing us twice (first with Tamra and then with her husband) that she was bragging her cabinets went over budget to $135,000.  She's really turning into the villain of the season for me.

 

Shannon is bat shit, no doubt.  I mean the comment "Some days I don't have any negative thoughts at all" was bat shit crazy.  I truly think David agreed to this season because he knows that the world will see how crazy she is and he will come off looking like the guy you couldn't blame for cheating.  I don't see any other payoff for him.

 

Meghan though annoys me to no end.  She's so clearly trying to become a star.  I would be willing to bet soon we'll be hearing about her launching her new cosmetic/handbag/wine/nail color/etc. brand.  Her voice is irritating, her reactions are irritating.  Her mini-me Tamra impersonation is embarrassing.  Her husband looked like he couldn't wait to get rid of her during the tasting.  He's over it.  

 

Heather's whole, "I'm doing this business not to pay for my children's education (while we have a hotel built w/14 rooms), I'm doing this for FUN" is so irritating.  And really, are how many wineries are there that love to get the reality whores money investing in their own "brand."  They must love it when they see these suckers.  

 

Not to mention, Heather to me is so hard to look at.  From her boniness to her harsh joker face and extremely heavy makeup.  She's not nearly as attractive as she thinks she is.  And if that's Terry's best work I'm surprised he is still in the business.  

Shannon and the drinking situation is interesting.

 

She's annoyed everytime David takes a sip and yet she was desperate for the vodka.  She's the one with a drinking problem, I am sure.

[sasha206]

Just some random musings.

 

Jim Edmonds is a huge asshole.  He treats Meghan like she's one of his kids, has no respect for her and I can't help but think that he moved them to OC so he can have freedom while living in St Louis for 50% of the time.  I was living in Milwaukee when he played for the Brewers, and he was well known for being a huge catter.  Out at bars and partying with as many women as he could. I personally saw him at the ballplayers favorite bars, hitting on as many women as he had fingers.  His business acumen isn't great as all three restaurants he owned/partnered with closed.  And seeing that his job is mostly in St Louis, why did he feel the need to move the new wife to the OC?  Like she said, she had a life in SL, but no friends in the OC.  If I were Meghan, I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.  I mean, he's off on his own, without the wife, and I highly doubt he's being faithful.  Oh, and he divorced wife number two in January 2014 and married Meghan October 2014.

 

I don't care for Meghan at all.  I don't think she's the prettiest OC wife.  She's got a very long neck, she shouldn't wear her hair pulled back as it makes her neck and forehead look even longer, and she's beyond skinny.  I also find her dumb.  She was on Say Yes to the Dress, shopping for her gown for her marriage to JE, and she really came off like a gold digger, and she also came off as having the IQ of a tick.  She just loved to brag that she was marrying a former MLB player, and that he's so famous and will be in the Hall of Fame.  Sorry, but he only deserves to be in the Hall of Pretty Decent.

 

I don't think she cares if he is with her or not.  She just loves being able to say she's married to a former professional athlete even though she has that em, "rule."  There's no chemistry at all between them.  

[sasha206]

Shannon and Meghan both need to let things go. I love how Meghan felt it necessary to twice bring up the hoedown saying that they had cleared that up, then why mention it again?

 

 

My theory is she relishes in thinking women are jealous of her.  Sure she said, "Shannon thinks *I* was flirting with David" but what she knows Shannon's issue is David flirting with her.

[bravofan27]

Meant to touch on Tamra and her arrival at the Inn earlier but she made a comment that Eddie is

upset she hasn't changed her name yet and listed all the reasons why. I get the hoops you have to jump through can be time consuming but if you are so over your ex shouldn't you at least change your name back to its maiden form if nothing else? I would, regardless of the hoops.

 

The hoops are the same no matter what you change your to and why. Tamra changing her name back to her maiden name is just as much work as changing it to Judge. Getting married makes it easier for the name to be approved but you still have to get all new everything. I just got married and am putting off the name change because it is a huge pain in the butt and extremely time consuming. 

[sasha206]

 

For some reason when Meghan writes a blog it is really important that she mention how close she is with Jim's ex-wives.  Maybe because she is forced to live with their interior design choices.

 

To prop herself up.  "I'm so secure and such a fabulous and wonderful human being that I am close with Jim's ex-wives.  They just love me because I am so fabulous."

[RedHawk]

Meant to touch on Tamra and her arrival at the Inn earlier but she made a comment that Eddie is upset she hasn't changed her name yet and listed all the reasons why. I get the hoops you have to jump through can be time consuming but if you are so over your ex shouldn't you at least change your name back to its maiden form if nothing else? I would, regardless of the hoops. Also, I don't spread myself so thin financially that I have a kazillion credit cards to switch over, as she mentioned.

 

Never thought I'd defend Tamra... But don't some women not change their name because they want to have the same last name as their children? How many kids did she have with her second husband, 6 or something? Just kidding. Anyway, it IS a pain to do all the changes, she's not having a baby with Eddie, and if it were me I'd tell him to "suck it"! She can be known socially as Mrs. Tamra Teeth and legally as Tamra Barney.

 

Heck, she probably knows this marriage to Eddie won't last, so why bother with paperwork?

Edited June 24, 2015 by RedHawk

[SCS]

Legit wondering if Meghan has androgen insensitivity syndrome. Not trying to snark, just genuinely curious.

I wondered the same. Interesting.

[mbaywife123]

Just watched again and I missed the part about Heather and her wonderful V-Jay. I am now imagining it with sparkle lighting and a velvet entrance rope with a bouncer.

[mbaywife123]

Did Katie bring her husband with a history of substance abuse on a drinking trip to Napa? Have they just edited him out of all of the scenes?

Shush! We shall never speak of this again. Katie and her husband are off the show. Google if you will.

[Cranky One]

I had to watch this episode on Bravo's crappy website. Between the gazillion commercials and my crappy computer bogging down, I finally gave up and missed the Shannon/Meghan feud. Thank Gawd.

 

Shannon is turning David into a complete emasculated sad sack. I'd be downing shots of saki, too. Haysoos Christo!

 

I'm actually in the OC right now visiting my parents. I've been helping them clean out some old crap and was shredding some old credit card bills from the late 90s (don't ask why they still had them). I noticed they went to the St. Regis a few times back in the day! lol! I see Dana Point now has this big lit up sign now. I went to high school in Dana Point. It wasn't fancy like that back in the 80s.

[swankie]

Maybe she won't have to see it because they will just tell her they said it. That's what we did when we told out grown kids we jokingly called them our little bitch or Bastardo once or twice. This doesn't seem to have made them question our love for them. I have zero idea why this would make them bad parents, or mean as someone said above, that "Terry hates her". Really?

 

It's my opinion that calling your toddler a bitch and a mistake just isn't funny.  I don't care if it was a joke.  I cherish my kids too much to make them the butt of a cheap joke.  So sue me!  Everyone doesn't have that kind of since of humor and if you do, fine.  I just don't.  I also think Terry is an asshole and he and Heather have overinflated egos.   Nothing much they say is funny to me.

 

Shannon is a horrible advertisement for clean living, Feng Shui, alternative medicine, etc. She just seems like such a joyless person, and I think she'd be that way even if David hadn't strayed. All these methods she's using for calm and balance ain't working. Honey, just eat that grilled steak, have that salad dressing, have some cupcakes, and try to unlodge that stick out of your ass.

 

Amen. And add a goddamned baked potato on the side of that steak, for crying out loud woman.

 

 

And did Shannon say she had to pull down two pairs of spanks to go to the bathroom?  As skinny as she is?!  I'm just flabbergasted by this.  Or should I say, flabby-gasted.  :-)

Edited June 24, 2015 by swankie

[swankie]

Meghan should have told Shannon, upfront, that she has never thrown a charity party before and could use her, Shannon's, advice  BUT Shannon just had to say that she "STARTS" charities" and storms off like the raving lunatic she is! LOL

 

 

I think Shannon stormed off because at that point Meghan had started chastising her for not being welcoming to a total stranger on the phone because it was for a charity.  I'm on Shannon's side on this one.  I get charity calls all of the time and if you research the majority of them they are not legit.  Any charity that pays the president of said charity over a million dollars a year salary, I don't want to have anything to do with that charity.  I'm not sending my hard earned money to make some greedy asshole a millionaire.  I have my own select charities that I have researched and send money without them having to call and harass me, so I hang up on those calls ALL THE TIME!  Meghan can suck it with her charity shaming in my opinion.

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

I don't care how much Heather's cabinets cost, all the money in the world can't get the pacifier out of her kid mouth..... speaks volumes. I've had enough of The Dubrows .

Meghan has the potential to be more mouthy and tasteless than Brandi or Tamra. Watch what happens!

I like Shannon. But MAN does she need to lighten up.

Vicks and her clean underpants in care of a car accident and fake awards, love her.

[Mountainair]

The hoops are the same no matter what you change your to and why. Tamra changing her name back to her maiden name is just as much work as changing it to Judge. Getting married makes it easier for the name to be approved but you still have to get all new everything. I just got married and am putting off the name change because it is a huge pain in the butt and extremely time consuming.

Yes, I realize that changing your name to anything is equally time consuming be it your maiden name or your new spouses name. So isn't getting a divorce. If I'm going to go through the trouble and hassle of getting a divorce from a controlling asshole like Simon I'm not going to keep his last name too. Kids or no kids.

[zoeysmom]

I think Shannon stormed off because at that point Meghan had started chastising her for not being welcoming to a total stranger on the phone because it was for a charity.  I'm on Shannon's side on this one.  I get charity calls all of the time and if you research the majority of them they are not legit.  Any charity that pays the president of said charity over a million dollars a year salary, I don't want to have anything to do with that charity.  I'm not sending my hard earned money to make some greedy asshole a millionaire.  I have my own select charities that I have researched and send money without them having to call and harass me, so I hang up on those calls ALL THE TIME!  Meghan can suck it with her charity shaming in my opinion.

What was odd is when asked about giving a wine party Shannon said no she had done something with Orange Coast Magazine.  I believe the charity is JRF, perhaps the Jackie Robinson Foundation.  It just seemed very odd if Meghan was calling Shannon for help she had two people sitting at the table listening to the phone call and then she tried to get her husband to agree that Shannon was unpleasant.  He didn't agree.

 

Shannon also commented the person sitting at the table with Meghan and Jimmy Baseball was the caterer. 

 

Here is the photo from what Shannon was referring to: https://instagram.com/p/p6gNDhj3O9/

Edited June 24, 2015 by zoeysmom

[Bossa Nova]

Thanks for that instagram pic of Shannon and David. They look great. Love her shoes. 

 

Overall, I think this was a very boring episode. I would have liked to see more footage on the place they stayed in Napa and the Bellos winery and ...was it their home? (all that gorgeous stone work where the party was held). I want wine country porn.

 

That's all I got.  

 

Zzzzzzz.

Edited June 24, 2015 by Bossa Nova

[The Mighty Peanut]

My theory is she relishes in thinking women are jealous of her.  Sure she said, "Shannon thinks *I* was flirting with David" but what she knows Shannon's issue is David flirting with her.

 

Well said. ITA. "It's not that I was inappropriate, you see. It's that due to my being younger and so beautiful, your husband presented himself as though he may be a prospective suitor. He couldn't help himself. Don't worry!"

[Beden]

 

I think every trashy thing she says, "I have god, SUCK IT!" is really her talking to Simon. There was that one season where she made a joke about teabags and Simon was just appalled and lectured her and scolded her about her mouth.

I remember that scene; it was at a kid's birthday party, a young child, 3 or 4 years old. Tamra had to make another uncalled for, vulgar sexual reference in front of the cameras. I'm a long way from being a prude but I'd be offended if I were a parent at the party with my young child as well.

 

she made a comment that Eddie is

upset she hasn't changed her name yet and listed all the reasons why.

After  my divorce I kept (and still use) my married name for the simple reason that the ex and I wanted to make the transition as easy as possible for our then adolescent son during a difficult time. Keeping the same name, in essence not tossing the ex and his family, was another way to let him know that we were still, in some ways, still a family unit with ties despite being separated. In a small way it helped.

[Almost 3000]

Totally agree with you OHGromit!

 

That dress is just not flattering for her body...not sure if it would be flattering on anyone.

 

Did you see her TH shot after her tiff with Shannon...I started laughing because last episode she was telling Heather she has not yet started on the botox..well by the time the TH shot was filmed she must have let Terry have a field day on her face

I remember a couple of years ago when the side boob was the thing so I guess the bottom boob is the new boob.

[parisprincess]

I know David cheated and deserves to suffer some pain because of it, but good lord, he is going to be paying for it for the rest of his life if he stays with Shannon.   I don’t care what she said, she is NOT going to forgive....or forget….ever!   As for her remark about occasionally getting through a day without a negative thought,  I don’t buy that for a minute.  The woman is a ball of negativity and is determined to be miserable at all times.

 

When they were riding around in the golf cart arguing and David tried to end the argument and get Shannon  to lighten up, he said something about giving her a kiss and, instead of going along with it, her answer was something like “if you can kiss me without gritting your teeth”.   Don’t talk about how you’re moving on when you have to snark on every single thing the man says or does.  All she's doing is driving him further away and, unless he enjoys being as miserable as she is, this marriage is doomed.

[yogi2014L]

I remember that scene; it was at a kid's birthday party, a young child, 3 or 4 years old. Tamra had to make another uncalled for, vulgar sexual reference in front of the cameras. I'm a long way from being a prude but I'd be offended if I were a parent at the party with my young child as well.

After  my divorce I kept (and still use) my married name for the simple reason that the ex and I wanted to make the transition as easy as possible for our then adolescent son during a difficult time. Keeping the same name, in essence not tossing the ex and his family, was another way to let him know that we were still, in some ways, still a family unit with ties despite being separated. In a small way it helped.

When Tamra was talking about her name change I nervously side eyed my husband bc we have been married 9 months and I still haven't changed mine....having some identity issues LOL . and It really IS a giant PITA. 

I changed it on FB though, that has to count for something, right?

 

I think for Tamra she wants to have the same name as her kids, and maybe things aren't as happy behind closed doors who knows. However her and Eddie need to be on the same page, if that is something he really wants from her they need to compromise or something. I will eventually change mine, I just havent yet. LOL

[kira28]

Wow I was cringing in embarrassment for Shannon every time she was on the screen. Shannon just needs to file for divorce. I know that word isn't in her vocabulary but those two are never going to make it. I don't understand why David doesn't man up and leave her. Unless he thinks his kids will hate him.  He is GOING TO CHEAT AGAIN. I can almost 100% guarantee it.  Not excusing him for having an affair, it was a horrible thing to do but he wasn't even trying to hide it! I'm sure he's done it before and gotten away with it.  Spouses who cheat almost always do it again. doesn't matter how miserable you make them, how much you cry, how much therapy you go to. Once they get a taste of meeting their needs and having the excitement of someone new who doesn't bitch and moan about everything they wander off again in search of that. Doesn't matter how much pain they caused their family. and Shannon is literally driving him away.  can't stand Tamara. She's just gross. Am meh on Megan. Heather and Terry annoy me. Guess Heather isn't mother of the year she claims to be with Colllette being what four or five? and still using her pacifier.

[hottesthw]

Yes, I realize that changing your name to anything is equally time consuming be it your maiden name or your new spouses name. So isn't getting a divorce. If I'm going to go through the trouble and hassle of getting a divorce from a controlling asshole like Simon I'm not going to keep his last name too. Kids or no kids.

I don't see it. Unless she's got a ton of financial things going on, it's a half hour at the DMV with your marriage license in hand, a 20 min stop at the bank on the way home to show off said marriage license, and then maybe an hour on the phone changing over a few credit cards. I did it all in one afternoon. Granted I've yet to get down to Social Security to make it officially official but that's just out of pure laziness. Getting divorced? Carry the divorce decree instead of the marriage license.

Tamra could change a license and a few credit cards easily to keep Teeths happy if she wanted to. She doesn't want to, that's the issue. And i don't think it has anything to do with her kids (because I do think that is a very valid reason, just not hers).

[biakbiak]

I think the reason Tamra doesn't want to change her name is because Tamra Barney is "famous", Tamra Judge isn't.

[ghoulina]

As far as Tamara's conversion? Heck, good for her. I think organized religion is a thing of the past, but hey, if it's doing something for her, good for her. If she needs that rule book to make her a nice person, then, hells bells, who am I to shit on that? I do think it is weird, though, that Christian people have a problem with it, because isn't the whole religion about forgiveness and love? So, she said "suck it"...who cares.....according to Christian doctrine, we're supposed to take her as she is, because she is a child of God, right? so....don't get the hate about her conversion....

 

I can't speak for others, but my issue is that I simply don't believe it's genuine. I'm not one to chastise Christians for their behavior. No one is perfect, and I can certainly have a foul mouth at times. But I will curse when talking about stupid howives, not Jesus. Saying "suck it" in the SAME sentence as talking about her "conversion" was....well....very Tamra of her. I just don't believe her. She knows she is HATED by many viewers right now. I firmly believe the whole thing is one big PR attempt at helping her image. Little will convince me otherwise, because she simply has a past of being a lying, manipulating, mean and nasty person. 

[ghoulina]

The hoops are the same no matter what you change your to and why. Tamra changing her name back to her maiden name is just as much work as changing it to Judge. Getting married makes it easier for the name to be approved but you still have to get all new everything. I just got married and am putting off the name change because it is a huge pain in the butt and extremely time consuming.

 

It is! I had an unexpected move right after we got married, and I never got my SS card. Had to do everything twice. *shudder*

 

Honestly, I LIKE the idea of taking the husband's name, of the family all having the same name. It means something to me. But, if I was remarrying, already had kids, and likely wasn't having any with the new husband, I'd just keep things as they are. I'd rather have the same last name as my kids than husband #2. But that's just me.

 

I think Shannon stormed off because at that point Meghan had started chastising her for not being welcoming to a total stranger on the phone because it was for a charity.  I'm on Shannon's side on this one.  I get charity calls all of the time and if you research the majority of them they are not legit.  Any charity that pays the president of said charity over a million dollars a year salary, I don't want to have anything to do with that charity.  I'm not sending my hard earned money to make some greedy asshole a millionaire.  I have my own select charities that I have researched and send money without them having to call and harass me, so I hang up on those calls ALL THE TIME!  Meghan can suck it with her charity shaming in my opinion.

 

It appeared, to me, like Megan really wanted to set up the narrative of being this big, magnanimous sweetie and Shannon as the greedy shrew who spits on orphans. I think Shannon is a bit sensitive about being portrayed incorrectly, given last year's gaslighting, so she immediately saw where this was going and flipped out. So I do get where Shannon was coming from. I don't think she did anything wrong during that phone call. But she could have handled Megan a little more tactfully, maybe asked her to set up a lunch to talk about it at a better time. Shannon's OTT reactions do her no favors. 

[zoeysmom]

A little something about the Bellos, the Bellos are big into horse racing and had a very solid racehorse named Megahertz who was trained by none other than Bobby Frankel, Bethenny's biological father.  I think they had part of the party in the Megahertz room.  

 

Just a little fodder. 

Then keep your name. If I get married, I'm not changing mine unless it is significantly nicer-sounding than mine and/or the husband's connections will help me professionally (I suppose we would have to work in the same field). I'm not chattel, but boy, do I have an ugly-sounding, difficult-to-spell last name...

I am thinking the Gimipizzauoldtroll moniker may become obscure if you take your future husband's surname.  No little Gimipizzauoldtroll  heirs to the name.  Very sad.  

[Sai]

I came into this season disliking Megan from the start because in the previews for the season there's the clip of her calling Vikki a bitter old hag, or something similar.  How mean and how rude.  Vikki is the OG of the OC.  There's a pecking order, ya know (Sonja Morgan). Lol.   Well, I just think throwing someone's age in their face as an insult is horrible.  What a bitch.  BUT.......I don't think her confrontation with Shannon was bad.  The phone conversation bothered her, she wanted to get it out in the open and I think she spoke very calmly to Shannon.  Shannon is the one who went all bat crap crazy even after Megan tried calming her down.  Shannon is nuts!

 

I HATE Katie's hairstyle.

 

I don't mind Tamra.  I just don't see what people find so awful about her.  Brandi from BH I can't stand and never, ever liked.  Tamra is alright, to me anyway.

 

Okay, so Heather is spending a ton of money on the new house.  Then she spent money on a champagne that's never gonna make a profit.  Then she throws a party for the launch of that champagne that lasts for days.  Talk about Miss Money Bags!!!  I honestly don't mind hearing about how much she's spending on her house.  I find it interesting.  I'd rather know than not know and wonder.  But my goodness, where does all that money come from!!??!

Edited June 24, 2015 by Sai

[jnymph]

Here is the photo from what Shannon was referring to: https://instagram.com/p/p6gNDhj3O9/

 

Wow, they look great.  For once, Shannon doesn't look like David's doddering, elderly Auntie.

 

 

 

 

 

I HATE Katie's hairstyle.

 

 

 

That hairstyle (and Katie herself) make me nauseous. 

 

 

I completely believe that Heather is a pretentious bitch, but I'm guessing the whole schtick is being amped up for the cameras.

Edited June 24, 2015 by jnymph

[The Mighty Peanut]

I kept my last name. I have a cool last name...I didn't want to change it to Wurm (my apologies any Wurms out there).

We eventually amicably divorced and I've got to say I was grateful not to change all my contact and billing info in addition to all the other PITA divorce stuff.

[sasha206]

Wow, they look great.  For once, Shannon doesn't look like David's doddering, elderly Auntie.

 

 

 

 

That hairstyle (and Katie herself) make me nauseous. 

 

 

I completely believe that Heather is a pretentious bitch, but I'm guessing the whole schtick is being amped up for the cameras.

 

Yes on all counts, esecially on that photo of Shannon and David.  However, I'd like to see the unretouched photos.

[jnymph]

 However, I'd like to see the unretouched photos.

 

Heh.  Good point.

[lunastartron]

Shannon knew the specific philanthropy that the call concerned - both she and Meghan referred to particular events (it sounds like the wine tasting is an annual venture) related to it. So there lack of legitimacy vis-a-vis most charities is non-germane; Shannon has obviously donated to and hosted at least one function related to the organization in question . . . Although she's made strides in recent years vis-a-vis obnoxious statements, Vicki called Lizzie a "bitch," Alexis "trash," etc, etc. So why is calling someone "a bitter old woman" beyond the pale? That's comparably muted in my opinion. I'll wait until the actual scene to form an opinion since I do think Meghan is thirsty for screen time but the actual terminology she employs in that clip is relatively reserved - no epithets.

[lunastartron]

Oh, also: I noticed that Meghan misused "inexplicably" in her blog and "predict" in her talking head. So I think she might have meant something other than the actual definition of "chintzy" (maybe "baroque" or "maudlin"/"saccharine") when she used it.

[Beden]

 

Saying "suck it" in the SAME sentence as talking about her "conversion" was....well....very Tamra of her. I just don't believe her. She knows she is HATED by many viewers right now. I firmly believe the whole thing is one big PR attempt at helping her image. Little will convince me otherwise, because she simply has a past of being a lying, manipulating, mean and nasty person.

I've said it before and I'll say it again; Tamra is going for the redemption edit, likely because TPTB have finally begun to listen to/believe how seriously disliked she is and how she (and the other nasty shit stirrers) adversely affected the franchise and contributed to the ratings slide.

[SFoster21]

It's not a "redemption" edit, it's the same story as before. Tamra has found enlightenment before and vowed to do better. It never lasts the season.

[ghoulina]

It's not a "redemption" edit, it's the same story as before. Tamra has found enlightenment before and vowed to do better. It never lasts the season.

 

Exactly. Same shit, different spin. 

[gunderda]

For some reason I just can't let the TP incident go - for multiple people to find tissue hanging out of Tamra's nether regions means that (a) she was too drunk to remember to drop the tissue after wiping; or (b) she was hoarding in case someone ever asked her if she can spare a square...

Old news by now I'm sure lol - but she placed the toilet paper around the seat to sit on it.  I do agree that she was probably too drunk to realize a piece stuck to her though. 

[gunderda]

For some reason I just can't let the TP incident go - for multiple people to find tissue hanging out of Tamra's nether regions means that (a) she was too drunk to remember to drop the tissue after wiping; or (b) she was hoarding in case someone ever asked her if she can spare a square...

Old news by now I'm sure lol - but she placed the toilet paper around the seat to sit on it.  I do agree that she was probably too drunk to realize a piece stuck to her though. 

[SFoster21]

Bear in mind that these women have no discernible occupations. They have children, but they are not spending their days cooking and doing laundry. Their pre-occupations are looking young and spending money. Since number one is inevitably a losing battle and number two is not in an unlimited supply (well, Heather), they have to "make work." Their intelligence, imagination and curiousity are spotty, so they don't garden or read or become patrons of the arts, travel, learn a language, etc. Their sole recreation appears to be drinking and/or throwing a party and dressing up to drink..(Please understand that not every woman on the show is equal in every degree on this. It's a composite.)

So, they are left with little. Shannon has her religion, Tamra has hers. It was the only place left for an aging woman with no resources. She is absorbing none of the teachings, but it fills a few hours.

[zoeysmom]

Bear in mind that these women have no discernible occupations. They have children, but they are not spending their days cooking and doing laundry. Their pre-occupations are looking young and spending money. Since number one is inevitably a losing battle and number two is not in an unlimited supply (well, Heather), they have to "make work." Their intelligence, imagination and curiousity are spotty, so they don't garden or read or become patrons of the arts, travel, learn a language, etc. Their sole recreation appears to be drinking and/or throwing a party and dressing up to drink..(Please understand that not every woman on the show is equal in every degree on this. It's a composite.)

So, they are left with little. Shannon has her religion, Tamra has hers. It was the only place left for an aging woman with no resources. She is absorbing none of the teachings, but it fills a few hours.

Although it would be crushing to Andy, I think Tamra has reached the end of her story line.  Actually I think she  reached it  right before she got married.  it is over for Tamra.  Heather commented on the inevitable and it has happened to Tamra.  When you go so low as to create a story line with a robo baby it is time to roll up your sleeves and go back to work at your real jobs.  http://www.inquisitr.com/2194564/heather-dubrow-on-brandi-glanvilles-rhobh-departure-audience-has-bullst-meter/

 

 The role of shit-stirrer is at best a three year role.  Like Slade and Gretchen, Tamra has outlived any usefulness.  This last demonstration of Tamra devoid of class and struggling for double entendres, to be edgy and cute at Raymond wineries was embarrassing and made the aforementioned bullshit meter rise.  

[TexasGal]

Shannon is bat shit, no doubt.  I mean the comment "Some days I don't have any negative thoughts at all" was bat shit crazy.  I truly think David agreed to this season because he knows that the world will see how crazy she is and he will come off looking like the guy you couldn't blame for cheating.  I don't see any other payoff for him.

 

And when she said it, it looked like she had a red rubber band on her wrist.  I seriously thought she was about to demonstrate how she snaps the rubber band on her wrist when she has negative thoughts.

 

It was probably just one of those Kabbalah strings, but it still amused me.

[Almost 3000]

Shannon knew the specific philanthropy that the call concerned - both she and Meghan referred to particular events (it sounds like the wine tasting is an annual venture) related to it. So there lack of legitimacy vis-a-vis most charities is non-germane; Shannon has obviously donated to and hosted at least one function related to the organization in question . . . Although she's made strides in recent years vis-a-vis obnoxious statements, Vicki called Lizzie a "bitch," Alexis "trash," etc, etc. So why is calling someone "a bitter old woman" beyond the pale? That's comparably muted in my opinion. I'll wait until the actual scene to form an opinion since I do think Meghan is thirsty for screen time but the actual terminology she employs in that clip is relatively reserved - no epithets.

I think the ageism bothers some people. I know it does me but a bit of slut shaming between Real Housewives doesn't. Go figure.

[SFoster21]

Well, "bitter" is arguable, but compared to Meghan, Vicki is "old." So why take issue with a truth? "Ageism" is a concept that is hard to grasp.

These women are all younger than I and they are all too old to behave as they do, you ask me. If that's "ageism," so be it.

Edited June 24, 2015 by SFoster21

[sasha206]

Shannon knew the specific philanthropy that the call concerned - both she and Meghan referred to particular events (it sounds like the wine tasting is an annual venture) related to it. So there lack of legitimacy vis-a-vis most charities is non-germane; Shannon has obviously donated to and hosted at least one function related to the organization in question . . . Although she's made strides in recent years vis-a-vis obnoxious statements, Vicki called Lizzie a "bitch," Alexis "trash," etc, etc. So why is calling someone "a bitter old woman" beyond the pale? That's comparably muted in my opinion. I'll wait until the actual scene to form an opinion since I do think Meghan is thirsty for screen time but the actual terminology she employs in that clip is relatively reserved - no epithets.

 

I guess for me it's this:  

 

Age isn't something you can help.  It's something that happens to all of us.  

 

Acting bitchy, trashy -- these are behaviors that can be helped.

[TheFinalRose]

Overall the episode was boring. And that's the thing. The private plane, party bus/limo, expensive hotel and staged dinner routine has been done a thousand times by now. Geez Vicky herself must be so bored of it too. That's why we need Shannon and Meghan, Shannon for her neurosis and Meghan, well, young and dumb is entertaining in its own way.  

 

I think David is probably great with the girls and that's what Shannon wants to preserve.  Because, uh, otherwise, I've got nothing. Do we have, from day one of her appearance on the show, any examples of them getting along for more than two minutes? That being said, what she gives us is real and I appreciate her taking one for us reality tv fans who need to be fed.  The rest of the group, Tamra, Vicky, etc. only deliver fake and staged at this point.

 

Heather is completely shallow. What is going on in her head that she has to state the costs of her kitchen, her toilets, her tile?  She is an intelligent woman who should get out of the limellght and dedicate herself to something worthwhile. What is her excuse?  She has all the help that money can buy to take care of the house and kids and throw herself into an important cause, yet she does the tv route and while on tv just goes on and on about her millions of dollars and millions of square feet.  Take one of those millions off the house budget and start a charity with it Heather--it could go a long way towards filling up your pretentious soul. It doesn't even have to be serious, since she loves cakes so much she can donate birthday cakes for poor kids whose moms don't have $1,000 for a special cake. 

 

I thought it was hilarious when all the women went and stood in a row in front of that huge fireplace. It must have been pretty cold.