Behind The Scenes: Trivia And Other Gossip

[Jaded]

My post wasn't made to discredit or lessen any of the work she's done outside of SVU. It also wasn't meant to imply she was hell to deal with behind the scenes. 

SVU was more of an ensemble before other long running cast members started to leave until viewers were left with Mariska and Ice-T.  When I quit watching a few years ago Ice-T wasn't on the show as much either. 

[Blergh]

OK, since I brought up Arlene Francis (1907-2001) hosting something called The Home Show (1954-1957) in the Gender topic, I thought I'd share one of (at least IMO) funniest behind the scenes stories she shared in her 1978 autobio. Towards the end of the show's run, they had an episode featuring an Amish festival. Now, how they got permission from that community's elders to get it broadcast, I'm not sure (since some of the orders expressly forbid photography). But in any case, they discovered that while the Amish women had prepared loads of sumptuous, home made goodies, there wasn't that much to keep home viewers interested in that festival because the order also forbade singing and dancing. Ah, but someone in the crew heard about one of the elders doing a 'storytelling session' to entertain the children and others which was supposed to be one of their favored forms of entertainment. Hence,    they thought that seeing this grandfatherly old man telling a lively story would keep the viewers tuned in (even though he was speaking Pennsylvania Dutch [German] instead of English). It wasn't too long before a German-speaking technician back in the NYC studio worked out that the old Amish patriarch was on live national television  telling a . .. scatological story. Yep, (not wanting to chance offending any other German-speaking viewers), they quickly switched it to something else but decades after the fact, Miss Francis still couldn't believe that they had considered singing and dancing to have been unacceptable fare but DID approve telling detailed stories for fun about digestion! 

[supposebly]

12 hours ago, Blergh said:

Miss Francis still couldn't believe that they had considered singing and dancing to have been unacceptable fare but DID approve telling detailed stories for fun about digestion! 

Digestion is natural and unavoidable, singing and dancing is not!😉

As a German, I would have been far more interested (and a lot less annoyed for waisting my time) in those stories than singing and dancing Amish people. 

Granted, I don't speak Pennsylvania Dutch and wouldn't understand much of it anyway.

Edited September 4, 2021 by supposebly

[Blergh]

Here's a   Blast from the Past: The Waltons (1972-1981) struck a cord in many viewers- especially in the early years when the family was headed by the old,  sneaky, vulpine patriarch Grandpa Zeb (Will Geer) and the short-tempered but dedicated  midwife matriarch Grandma Esther (Ellen Corby).  Their onscreen banter of him constantly teasing her and her fussing back was not unlike how they interacted off screen. However, all kidding aside on Mr. Geer's part, he had enormous respect for Miss Corby's absolute professionalism of flawless punctuality and knowing the lines cold ( each had been struggling actors for many decades before landing their iconic roles). So when during the filming of the episode called 'The Ferris Wheel', Miss Corby didn't show up, Mr. Geer became downright alarmed and refused to be placated. To that end, he gathered some other studio employees and made a beeline to her house. When she didn't answer the door, they broke in- and discovered that she'd had a catastrophic stroke! Had Mr. Geer NOT done this, it's likely that Miss Corby would have died all alone in her home of the stroke's effects in late 1976 (as she had long since been divorced and she'd outlived her entire  original family ). After a great deal of rehab and therapy, Miss Corby would return for the Season Six final episode 'Grandma Comes Home' (1978) quite noticeably having to struggle to speak coherently and walk  with a paralyzed right side but she had by no means lost her memory or acting ability even though often had to convey Grandma's emotions via her nonverbal expressions.   This episode wound up being the last one featuring Mr. Geer as he himself would die at age 76 weeks after that episode's debut while Miss Corby would live to nearly 88 before her death in 1999 having had to contend with that stroke's challenges the remainder of her life. 

[annzeepark914]

I loved Will Geer. Even though he was distinctive, he always became his character. 

[Just Here]

A long Twitter thread about a woman who faked her way into getting a writing job for the now-cancelled Paramount Network show, 68 Whiskey.

(edit:  looks like the quoted tweet was deleted, so here's a screenshot from Google's cache)

 

From a later tweet in the thread:

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They tell me about the other veteran they hired—and her resume is, in a word, unparalleled. She’s this Cuban Jewish gay Princeton graduate. She checks all of the boxes. On top of that she’s a former Marine captain with 4 tours under her belt, a bronze star, and a Purple Heart.

Edited October 1, 2021 by Just Here
added screenshot

[Fool to cry]

Never seen The Colbys only that it was a spinoff of Dynasty. I didn't even know one of my faves Barbara Stanwyck was in it until I saw this letter to a college where she explains why she quit after only one season:

 

 

 

Edited October 11, 2021 by Fool to cry

[Blergh]

Miss Stanwyck wasn't a legend for nothing! She had had to live by her wits from childhood onwards . When  she had been  four her mother died from a miscarriage after being shoved off a moving streetcar by a drunk and her male DNA Donor soon abandoned the motherless family . 

Anyway, both Lee Majors and Linda Evans have gone on record as saying that  she was their best teacher onset in The Big Valley  (1965-1969) instilling in them the need to always know their lines cold AND be punctual. That series would launch both their longterm careers and they would credit Miss Stanwyck for giving them guidance. BTW, shortly after their landmark series ended, she invited them to lunch at a restaurant and Miss Evans arrived one minute late- prompting Miss Stanwyck to immediately snap ,"Audra, you're late!' (Yes, oddly enough, she always addressed her fellow performers on the series by their characters' names instead of their actual given ones).

[Fool to cry]

I just watched a clip of The Colbys online and she was right. It was cliched and perfunctory soap dialogue with no wit at all. Complete waste of her talents.

There's a moving clip online of her and William Holden presenting at the Oscars online in 1978. Holden goes off script to say how Stanwyck as his co-star kept him from being fired from his first movie Golden Boy and what a great person she is and Stankwck is so touched. Years later when she got a Lifetime Achievement Award she mentions Holden who had since passed and who always wished she would win an Oscar and through tears Stanwyck said "Now, Golden Boy you have your wish!"

Edited October 10, 2021 by Fool to cry

[AgathaC]

Barbara Stanwyck has always been a major favorite of mine! William Holden also sent her flowers every year to thank her for saving his fledgling career.

While filming the movie California, the director was picking on a bit-player (his MO was to take out his frustrations on people who couldn’t fight back). Barbara stopped him and told him if he didn’t get up in front of the whole cast and crew and apologize she would walk.

She had a complicated personal life but she had a well-deserved rep as a thorough professional with a generous, protective nature.

Edited October 10, 2021 by AgathaC

[stewedsquash]

I love her signature on that document. 

[proserpina65]

On 5/24/2021 at 11:09 AM, DearEvette said:

again another reason I am glad I stopped watching because I have an irrational dislike of Amy Acker

Nothing irrational about disliking Amy Acker.  She's a terrible actress.

[GHScorpiosRule]

1 hour ago, proserpina65 said:

Nothing irrational about disliking Amy Acker.  She's a terrible actress.

She ruined, RUINED! Person of Interest for me.

[ABay]

I got used to her on POI eventually but wish the role had been cast differently. Every time she pops up in something I'm watching, I groan. Same with Felicia Day. I don't dislike her, I'm just tired of seeing her show up in everything. They're both like the Tracy Scoggins* of their generation.

*Older viewers of genre TV will know what I mean.

Edited October 20, 2021 by ABay

[andromeda331]

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

She ruined, RUINED! Person of Interest for me.

For me too.

[AgathaC]

Agreed about Amy Acker. I was a fan of Angel back in the day and I could not stand Fred, though I could tell I was supposed to find her adorably irresistible. Um, no. I couldn’t understand why the show runners felt the need to force her on us (and then destroy and eventually dump Cordy, whom I loved). Now, of course, with everything that’s come out over the years about the behind-the-scenes mess, it makes a lot more sense. But still infuriating.

[FurryFury]

Okay, you may hate me for it, but I loved Root and I didn't care about Person of Interest until it stopped being a generic case-of-the-week show. And Carter was boring.

And anyone who saw Angel S5 and the way Amy Acker transformed from Fred to Illyria can't seriously agree that she's a bad actress.

[AgathaC]

46 minutes ago, FurryFury said:

And anyone who saw Angel S5 and the way Amy Acker transformed from Fred to Illyria can't seriously agree that she's a bad actress.

Oh, I don’t necessarily say she’s a bad actress. As I recall, I thought she was ok. I just didn’t particularly like her or her character. 😉

[DearEvette]

3 hours ago, ABay said:

Same with Felicia Day.

Ugh.  Don't get me started on Felicia Day.

[merylinkid]

On 10/20/2021 at 2:15 PM, ABay said:

Every time she pops up in something I'm watching, I groan. Same with Felicia Day. I don't dislike her, I'm just tired of seeing her show up in everything. They're both like the Tracy Scoggins* of their generation.

Agree on Amy Acker and Felicia Day.   Somehow they come on a show and no matter what happened before the show begins to revolve around them.   Like the previous characters we have come to know and love only existed to introduce them and then serve THEIR story.  

But, I will say I've always like Tracy Scoggins.   Didn't like they cast her in the last season of Babylon 5 because she deserved better than being stuck in that situation.   Although Day of the Dead had some of the finest acting from her I've seen.   When she gives the computer her password, it hit my right in the gut.  In short, I will watch what she is in.   I know it won't suck terribly (but then I like bad scifi).  

[proserpina65]

On 10/20/2021 at 5:15 PM, FurryFury said:

And anyone who saw Angel S5 and the way Amy Acker transformed from Fred to Illyria can't seriously agree that she's a bad actress.

I absolutely think she's a terrible actress.  I was not impressed.

[callie lee 29]

8 hours ago, proserpina65 said:

I absolutely think she's a terrible actress.  I was not impressed.

Ditto. That was just a horrible season all around and Amy Acker was annoying as hell.

[methodwriter85]

On 10/20/2021 at 2:49 PM, AgathaC said:

Agreed about Amy Acker. I was a fan of Angel back in the day and I could not stand Fred, though I could tell I was supposed to find her adorably irresistible. Um, no. I couldn’t understand why the show runners felt the need to force her on us (and then destroy and eventually dump Cordy, whom I loved). Now, of course, with everything that’s come out over the years about the behind-the-scenes mess, it makes a lot more sense. But still infuriating.

Long story short, her slender frame made Josh Whedon go "wowee" while Charisma Carpenter dared to weigh over 115 pounds.

Edited October 27, 2021 by methodwriter85

[Fool to cry]

On 10/20/2021 at 11:49 AM, AgathaC said:

Agreed about Amy Acker. I was a fan of Angel back in the day and I could not stand Fred, though I could tell I was supposed to find her adorably irresistible. Um, no. I couldn’t understand why the show runners felt the need to force her on us (and then destroy and eventually dump Cordy, whom I loved). Now, of course, with everything that’s come out over the years about the behind-the-scenes mess, it makes a lot more sense. But still infuriating.

 

On 10/27/2021 at 12:02 PM, methodwriter85 said:

Long story short, her slender frame made Josh Whedon go "wowee" while Charisma Carpenter dared to weigh over 115 pounds.

 

I doubt that. I think this new bit of info from James Marsters shed more light on the situation:

https://youtu.be/K4VyMNLJYxs

 

All I can say is, yes she had a kid but so did a lot of people who worked on the show. If it was a matter of the "needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one".

 

 

[JustHereForFood]

3 minutes ago, Fool to cry said:

I doubt that. I think this new bit of info from James Marsters shed more light on the situation:

https://youtu.be/K4VyMNLJYxs

I would take everything he says with a grain of salt. I doubt that having Spike saved Angel from getting cancelled and I am positive that Joss would have gotten Charisma fired anyway. 

[Fool to cry]

47 minutes ago, JustHereForFood said:

I would take everything he says with a grain of salt. I doubt that having Spike saved Angel from getting cancelled and I am positive that Joss would have gotten Charisma fired anyway. 

 I'm sure though you believe his story of Joss choking him against a wall his first season. Also I just can't see if Cordelia did have a regular human pregnancy(as some fans would prefer) why she would stick around Angel investigation and put her child in danger?

[JustHereForFood]

18 hours ago, Fool to cry said:

 I'm sure though you believe his story of Joss choking him against a wall his first season. 

I didn't think about it that much to be honest. There are plenty of other reasons why Joss sucks, so whether or not James is exaggerating here is not that relevant to me.

18 hours ago, Fool to cry said:

Also I just can't see if Cordelia did have a regular human pregnancy(as some fans would prefer) why she would stick around Angel investigation and put her child in danger?

There are many ways to write that in and Joss is a very good writer, so I'm sure he could have come up with something interesting if they chose to have the character pregnant. Which did not have to be the case at all:

 

 

[Llywela]

23 minutes ago, JustHereForFood said:

I didn't think about it that much to be honest. There are plenty of other reasons why Joss sucks, so whether or not James is exaggerating here is not that relevant to me.

There are many ways to write that in and Joss is a very good writer, so I'm sure he could have come up with something interesting if they chose to have the character pregnant. Which did not have to be the case at all:

 

 

Heck, the pregnancy had already been accounted for on-screen anyway. The decision was made to permanently incapacitate the character (and later kill her off) at the point where the pregnancy ended, not before it became visible. That was a deliberate choice, made not to prevent her being pregnant on-screen, but to punish her for having been pregnant. Charisma's pregnancy was written into the storyline. Cordelia was pregnant on-screen. Making it so the pregnancy killed the character when she gave birth was a choice made by the writer.

20 hours ago, Fool to cry said:

All I can say is, yes she had a kid but so did a lot of people who worked on the show. If it was a matter of the "needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one".

I'm curious to know who else on the show you think was pregnant on-screen, because I watched all five seasons of Angel, and Charisma Carpenter was quite definitely the only one of the regulars to be pregnant while filming. Darla's pregnancy was a storyline, the actress wasn't pregnant, and she wasn't a regular.

We're not talking about actors who have kids. We're talking about how a show accommodates an actor who becomes pregnant while filming.

[Fool to cry]

I meant the crew and everyone behind the scenes who had families to support who would be out of work when the show got cancelled. If bringing Spike on board and paying him what he wanted would keep the show on another season then that's what they had to do.

My feeling is Joss was an asshole but not in the way people think. I don't think he fired Charisma out of revenge of dislike. Like he didn't have Black Widow and Bruce be in a relationship and have her reveal she couldnt have kids because he didn't like the actors. It's what he wanted to write. I think he wanted to take the show somewhere in season 5 and Cordelia just didn't fit those plans. "Sorry but I now have a new vision and they don't include you anymore. What? You need to support a child now? Well them's the breaks". He just strikes me as "my art is more important than people's feelings" types like Kubrick haranguing Shelly Duvall not because of animosity but so she'd give the performance he wanted.

Edited November 10, 2021 by Fool to cry

[Llywela]

Personally, I believe Charisma. And all the other actresses who have spoken out about the way Whedon treated them. They are the ones who were there.

[JustHereForFood]

On 11/10/2021 at 7:29 PM, Fool to cry said:

He just strikes me as "my art is more important than people's feelings" types like Kubrick haranguing Shelly Duvall not because of animosity but so she'd give the performance he wanted.

Well, that's another self-absorbed asshole, so the comparison seems fitting.

[merylinkid]

When you have someone who cannot be alone in a room with a teenage actress, he isn't trying to get a certain performance.   He's an asshole.   it is not too much of a stretch that an asshole would discriminate against a pregnant woman for daring to be pregnant.   Writing it off as "the need of the many" or "taking the show in a different direction" or even "just trying to get a certain performance" excuses the asshole behavior.   Nay, it ENCOURAGES IT, because its gives the asshole cover.   

Let me say this clearly -- making an employment decision based on a woman's pregnancy is discrimination.   Period.

[Blergh]

I guess because this is likely the best place to mention it. I think I've made a discovery the origin of the name of Harriet Nelson (1909-1994).

Yes the iconic wife and mother/straight woman (though with spunk and unexpected zaniness) of The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet (1952-1966!) had   a bit of an unexpected backstory re her own name.

 

To begin with she was born Peggy Lou Snyder in 1909- the only child of performers Roy Hilliard   and Hazel McNutt Snyder. Well, it seems she early on had had her original given name changed to Harriet and none of the bios covering the Nelson Family seem to have had any insights as to why but I think I may have uncovered what may have happened. In 1911, a Harriett McNutt   passed away at age 22. This Miss McNutt was the twin sister of Hazel McNutt Snyder so it seems almost certain that Mrs. Snyder insisted that their young daughter be renamed after her own twin sister (albeit with one instead of two t's). 

Anyway, Roy Snyder had long since performed under the name of Hilliard and, it seems he separated from Hazel when their daughter was young but it's unclear whether they ever divorced or just stayed  separated until his 1953 death . However, the renamed Harriet started working in showbiz from her early teens to help support her mother- and billed herself as 'Harriet Hilliard'. She had a brief marriage  to an abusive comedian (one Roy Sedley 1901-1989) before Ozzie (1907-1975) came into the picture  but he was able to use his legal skills to get that ended so they had no impediment to their own marriage in 1935.  Of course, they went on to have their two sons, David  Oswald and Eric Hiliard - and Harriet would perform in movies as Harriet Hilliard long after their marriage. It was only when they started the radio show in the mid 1940's, then made the  pilot movie  before the iconic sitcom that she'd be billed as 'Harriet Nelson' . Meantime, Hazel would live to 1971 and Tracy Nelson has said that Hazel was her father Rick's favorite person! Interestingly enough, she would be buried under the name of 'Hazel D. Hilliard' while Roy was buried under the name of 'Roy H. Snyder' but it's unclear whether she (or, for that matter, Harriet) had actually legally changed the surname from Snyder to Hilliard or just used the latter enough for everyone to assume that that was their actual surname.  It's also unclear what kind of  dealings Roy had had with his son-in-law and grandsons (or even if he had any dealings)  before his 1953 death. 

Edited November 13, 2021 by Blergh

[methodwriter85]

Is there any dirt to spill about The Good Doctor on ABC? I have never seen a show with such a heavy cast turnover before the end of a 5th season.

[Luckylyn]

1 hour ago, methodwriter85 said:

Is there any dirt to spill about The Good Doctor on ABC? I have never seen a show with such a heavy cast turnover before the end of a 5th season.

I don’t know anything about the show specifically but Disney issued a vaccination mandate for actors.  I know one actor on General Hospital was let go because he wouldn’t be vaccinated.  Maybe that’s a factor.   

[methodwriter85]

On 11/22/2021 at 4:47 AM, Luckylyn said:

I don’t know anything about the show specifically but Disney issued a vaccination mandate for actors.  I know one actor on General Hospital was let go because he wouldn’t be vaccinated.  Maybe that’s a factor.   

Yeah, but this show has had regular cast members leaving like every year, before COVID. Hospital shows tend to have a bit more turnover but this feels like more than usual. 

 

Edited December 5, 2021 by methodwriter85

[Macbeth]

On 12/5/2021 at 5:43 PM, methodwriter85 said:

Yeah, but this show has had regular cast members leaving like every year, before COVID. Hospital shows tend to have a bit more turnover but this feels like more than usual. 

 

Steve Burton worked at GH for 29 years.  He got fired for not getting vaccinated and he had Covid in August. Ingo Rademacher worked at GH for 22 years and he got fired for his social posts and not getting vaccinated.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/steve-burton-fired-general-hospital-covid-vaccine/

 

[merylinkid]

14 hours ago, Macbeth said:

Steve Burton worked at GH for 29 years.  He got fired for not getting vaccinated and he had Covid in August. Ingo Rademacher worked at GH for 22 years and he got fired for his social posts and not getting vaccinated.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/steve-burton-fired-general-hospital-covid-vaccine/

 

Now if they just fired EVERYONE who played a mobster or was not a doctor, maybe the show could get back to its origins -- General HOSPITAL.   Not General Town with people who ocassionaly wind up at a hospital (usually because of a mob shoot out).

[BlackberryJam]

On 12/12/2021 at 5:40 PM, Macbeth said:

Steve Burton worked at GH for 29 years.  He got fired for not getting vaccinated and he had Covid in August. Ingo Rademacher worked at GH for 22 years and he got fired for his social posts and not getting vaccinated.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/steve-burton-fired-general-hospital-covid-vaccine/

 

Burton left GH for a while and went over to Y&R, then came back. IR has been more recurring than main cast. Soap opera casts are often moving back and forth between shows or the actor takes a break to try for a prime time pilot or a film role. 

9 hours ago, merylinkid said:

Now if they just fired EVERYONE who played a mobster or was not a doctor, maybe the show could get back to its origins -- General HOSPITAL.   Not General Town with people who ocassionaly wind up at a hospital (usually because of a mob shoot out).

Preach. I stopped watching for just that reason. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

1 hour ago, BlackberryJam said:

Burton left GH for a while and went over to Y&R, then came back.

He didn’t leave of his own volition-he was fired. This happened right after the cancellations of All My Children and One Life To Live, and the show runners of the latter took over General Hospital. Sadly, he came back five years ago. Good Riddance to him leaving again, but he’s a cockroach; he’ll be back.

[Luckylyn]

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

He didn’t leave of his own volition-he was fired. This happened right after the cancellations of All My Children and One Life To Live, and the show runners of the latter took over General Hospital. Sadly, he came back five years ago. Good Riddance to him leaving again, but he’s a cockroach; he’ll be back.

I think he was doing some MLM scam and selling it to fans so he was fired.  I might be remembering wrong.

[GHScorpiosRule]

20 hours ago, Luckylyn said:

I think he was doing some MLM scam and selling it to fans so he was fired.  I might be remembering wrong.

No, that scam was a few years before. I think it was a money negotiation thing. But then he wanted to come back and both Sean Kanan and Billy Miller got screwed at the altar of this talentless hack. And I say this as someone who LOVED Robin and Jason. Kimberly McCullough made him better.

Edited December 14, 2021 by GHScorpiosRule

[Mabinogia]

20 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

And I say this as someone who LOVED Robin and Jason. Kimberly McCullough made him better.

That was the only time Jason was remotely tolerable. If vaccine mandates are what it took to finally be rid of him, then yay to vaccine mandates! He'll probably be back though. I can't imagine him capable of really doing anything else for a living.  

[BlackberryJam]

16 hours ago, Mabinogia said:

That was the only time Jason was remotely tolerable. If vaccine mandates are what it took to finally be rid of him, then yay to vaccine mandates! He'll probably be back though. I can't imagine him capable of really doing anything else for a living.  

Well, he was selling junk science juice for a while...

[memememe76]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadline.com/2021/11/this-is-us-cast-bonuses-final-season-parity-jon-huertas-milo-ventimiglia-mandy-moore-1234880037/amp/

I find this fascinating. I am always surprised not more casts don’t go the Friends route. But in this instance, it was clear which actors have emerged as stars. And just in terms of creativity, the actors who play the Pearsons are the clear main characters. Love Beth, Toby and Miguel, but I cannot say that their characters are as centrally important to the show. But parity, nonetheless. 

Quote

Original cast members Ventimiglia, Moore, Brown, Metz, Hartley, Watson and Sullivan previously negotiated big raises after Season 2 when the actors, who had started at different compensation levels, all went up to $250,000 an episode. They have maintained parity ever since.

 

Edited January 4, 2022 by memememe76

[Ms Blue Jay]

It's much better to do it that way than to have part of the cast or 1 of the cast making more.  Otherwise, there will be resentment, cast infighting, cast turnover, and the show will suffer as a result.

[Irlandesa]

I didn't know where to put this piece of news but I thought here might the best place.

Mark Pedowitz was fired from the cw today as the company that bought the network finally took over.  (Next Star I think?)

I'd like to pour one out to him because he was one of the few network execs that committed to a show and let it tell its story (or gave fair warning to the show runners so they could end a show) before ending it.  I didn't watch a lot of shows on the network but I did watch Jane The Virgin and Crazy Ex-Girlfriend.  Frankly, the fact that the latter got to tell its whole story is a major miracle.

[roamyn]

15 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

Mark Pedowitz was fired from the cw today as the company that bought the network finally took over.  (Next Star I think?)

I thought it was a foregone conclusion that he would leave when Nextar took over?

I wonder how the three new SPN lead actor shows will fare w/o him?  (The Winchester’s, Walker: Independence, Gotham Knights).  All three pilots have gotten good reviews, but still it makes you wonder if Nexstar leaders will be resentful, because they didn’t develop those shows.

[Avabelle]

4 hours ago, roamyn said:

still it makes you wonder if Nexstar leaders will be resentful, because they didn’t develop those shows.

I don’t think they’ll care once they’re maki g money off them.

[Irlandesa]

5 hours ago, roamyn said:

I wonder how the three new SPN lead actor shows will fare w/o him?  (The Winchester’s, Walker: Independence, Gotham Knights).  All three pilots have gotten good reviews, but still it makes you wonder if Nexstar leaders will be resentful, because they didn’t develop those shows.

It'll all be about money.  But I also hear they want to make it more like CBS.  So I think walker will survive.  The supernatural series?  I don't know.