S04.E14: Bad Luck

[formerlyfreedom]

Nick and Hank investigate a murder victim with his foot cut off, and stumble onto a disturbing Wesen take on the "lucky rabbit’s foot." In an effort to help, Monroe and Rosalee go undercover. Meanwhile, the fallout from Adalind and Juliette’s  showdown still has Nick reeling and sends him on a path that leads to Henrietta.

 

 

[mustbekarma]

So let me get this straight. Infertile Wesen couples want to have a child by killing someone else's child. They literally fuck like bunnies over a (un)lucky bunny rabbit foot so they can procreate like bunnies. I hope the Wesen Council tortures the fertility clinic nurse for the names of all the couples she "helped" and they set her on fire along with all those nice mommies and daddies.

 

When Rabbit Girl shoved the fence post through the killer's foot, I cheered. Way to go, girl! She must have been related to the Rabbit of Caerbannog. She should have hit him again, though.

 

The scenes between Nick and Juliette were so heartbreaking. Juliette's right, unfortunately. If Nick can't even look at her in Wesen form, then they really have a problem. I really Nick and Juliette to work it out. Adalind caused this bullshit, and she just....can't.....win.

 

Adalind screaming in horror because she's pregnant with Nick's baby was worth the price of admission for this episode. And hear I thought I would hate that development. If Adalind suffers horribly, then I'm in. Let the baby be born healthy with Adalind dying in childbird. Wait, I have an even better idea. Baby Grimm rips through Adalind's stomach all like Alien. I would pay to see that.

 

I want a GIF of Rosalee punching the nurse out.

Edited March 21, 2015 by mustbekarma

[johntfs]

See, on the one hand, I feel that Juliette is being premature and not giving Nick enough time to adjust.  On the other hand, how do you maintain a loving relationship with somebody who now regards you with fear and disgust?

[Actionmage]

Well, that's how you come back from a break!

 

I thoroughly hate the rabbit hunters. Not sure how I feel about Nick promising to tell the Wesen Council. It is a very barbaric ritual, but? The council isn't stopping other barbaric things on their own wherewithal. 

 

I think that the Juliette Hexen story could be very cool Neither will be hurting in a vacuum, so it could possibly be better than Amnesia!Juliette. I just hope that she talks to Rosalee because Rosalee makes everyone smarter and calmer. Except when she's punching out disgusting "I-don't-do-murder" nurses.

 

As to the last? Yeah, you do, no matter what story you tell yourself. Real folks are dying, if not mutilated, so you get a cut of some serial killer's payday! Just because you don't know The Guy? Doesn't mean you don't have responsibility!

 

Are we getting closer to Wu making a scan party so he can access the material faster/easier? I like that he's still enthusiastic.

 

Unless it upsets the obviously delicate Hexen community of Portland, maybe Juliette can stay with Henrietta for a bit? OTJ training when she's not a vet? Let Nick have some time to digest the news-to-him and get better at controlling her power would be a good, short-term move. They need to figure out what, besides the obvious, has changed. Nick also needs to listen to Juliette and stop making it all about him. It was Juliette that was changed into a hexenbiest, yet he was all "I'll fix it." What if she doesn't? Where does that leave Nick's thought process/"problem" solving matrix?

 

I loved that the fertility doc that Monrosalee visited was as disgusted by the idea as they were! Yay, fertility specialists who aren't barbarians! (I know--Not All Doctors; fiction tends to show the very shady or outright quacks though. I'm just glad it wasn't put on display this time.)

 

At least Poor Adalind was a wash this time out. Pro? She said that she was aware of her limited usefulness to Viktor and the strong possibility of attempted murder soon as the usefulness is over. Con? Another hexen has to tell the woman she's pregnant again! And she almost didn't remember her last sexual partner!  These Writers, indeed.

 

We had everyone on deck at some point and no Viktor on-screen! I want to keep Henrietta as she's pretty boss.

 

So we are in the early slot next week, due to March Madness? No matter when, I'm excited for the next episode despite my misgivings.

 

eta:

When Rabbit Girl shoved the fence post through the killer's foot, I cheered. Way to go, girl! She must have been related to the Rabbit of Caerbannog. She should have hit him again, though.

I want a GIF of Rosalee punching the nurse out.

 

Either should be picked for the EHG podcast Winner of the week, imo! Such hell yeah! moments of awesome!

Edited March 21, 2015 by Actionmage

[Jodithgrace]

Chloe? How come Peter's sister's name wasn't Flopsey or Mopsey? Mama Rabbit hasn't been doing her reading.

 

An appropriate episode for the Easter season..Not. Nothing like happy little bunnies getting their feet chopped off and bleeding to death to put one in the mood for some nice chocolate eggs! 

 

I think I've grown to appreciate Adalind. She is relentless. And now she's pregnant with a little hexengrimm! How cute. Nothing ever goes quite right for her, does it?

 

I really feel sorry for Juliette. Of all the wesen to turn into, she gets stuck with the least attractive. I'm sure Nick is thinking, why couldn't she have turned into a cute little fox like Rosalee? That's a face that only a fellow hexenbieste could love. But I am glad that the Grimm blood thing was brought up, since we were all wondering. And of course, Nick, Adalind and Juliette have swapped so many body fluids at this point, it actually makes sense that Nick's blood wouldn't work. Of course, he's not the only Grimm around. I wonder if Truble's blood would work. Though Henrietta did say a Grimm's blood wouldn't work , not Nick's blood, specifically. Still, I think it might be worth a try.

 

It's possible that the infertile couples don't know that people are being killed for their feet. A foot can be amputated without killing the victim. Of course the Lepus lazuli (or whatever he was called) wanted to kill his victims so that they can't help catch him. But the couples probably tell themselves a nice story involving a neat surgery under sanitary conditions. Mutilation for the sake of pregnancy and good luck is evil enough, without adding murder. But we really weren't shown what the couples are told, or how much they know. The whole thing is downright disgusting. 

Edited March 21, 2015 by Jodithgrace

[FormerMod-a1]

Geez, Juliette, give Nick a little time.  And why are you provoking things with the hexenface?  Do you really think you'll be kissing and making out with that face from here on out?   He feels bad enough already, he's blaming himself for all of this.  He loves you and he wants to be with you, no matter what.   I know she's projecting too. When she put that ring on and her hand turned, she seemed disgusted.  But they still just need time to adjust.  But it doesn't look like that will happen.  Rational Juliette is disappearing.

 

As for the case, glad Hank killed the guy.  I also liked Nick barging in and saying the opposite of we often hear "I am NOT here as a cop".  

[Straycat80]

I felt bad for Juliette when Nick walked out on her to 'think'. I guess it is a lot for him to take in but it's worse for her. She couldn't even enjoy the site of her engagement ring on her finger because her arm turned all hexenbiesty. And it is a big problem that Nick can't even look at her wogued without being disgusted.

They never explained the accordion music Rabbit Hunter was playing. Music to die by? Come on writers. Wouldn't that rabbit foot start to smell after sitting under your bed for three days?

I don't know how I feel about Adalind being pregnant again. We already have one baby drama going on with the first baby. It's a little overkill I think.

[johntfs]

Juliette's been bracing for this blow since episode 8.  She's put it off and put it off and then fucking Adalind drops by and brings everything to a head.  She's been somewhat irrationally afraid that Nick would somehow want to kill her once he knew, but it wasn't that bad.  It was worse. 

 

Juliette gets to see him look at her and clench his teeth to avoid throwing up.  After he goes to see Henrietta, Nick comes in promising to "fix" Juliette like she's somehow defective now.

[FormerMod-a1]

Because he thinks that she thinks this is a bad thing that has happened to her, and because he thinks it's all his fault.  And Juliette herself is acting like it's some awful thing, so I don't see that he's wrong to think that.  Like he said, he needs time to adjust, but she just won't accept that, for some reason.  Past Juliette would.  This Juliette does not.  And it's stupid, imo.  

[TV Anonymous]

What kind of villain purposedly using sex to trick the hero but then too stupid to not taking care of her own birth control?

[Rina99]

Because he thinks that she thinks this is a bad thing that has happened to her, and because he thinks it's all his fault.  And Juliette herself is acting like it's some awful thing, so I don't see that he's wrong to think that.  Like he said, he needs time to adjust, but she just won't accept that, for some reason.  Past Juliette would.  This Juliette does not.  And it's stupid, imo.

 

The bolded is the reason why I haven't enjoyed this storyline, because I knew it was simply a way for the writers to have Juliette do all sorts of dumb shit that they can conveniently blame on this.  

[shapeshifter]

Will the Europeans be as interested in the new Hexenbaby as they were with the first? Will it being half Grimm make it valuable to them or something to be killed or worse?

What kind of villain purposedly using sex to trick the hero but then too stupid to not taking care of her own birth control?

I think we talked about this back when it happened, but, basically, if Adalind used, say, the Pill, but Nick and Juliette used condoms, when Adalind's body became Juliette's, there'd be no Pill hormones to suppress ovulation.

But, yeah, she should've thought of that possibility.

Why didn't the rabbit girl woge?

Edited March 21, 2015 by shapeshifter

[TV Anonymous]

So we are in the early slot next week, due to March Madness? No matter when, I'm excited for the next episode despite my misgivings.

 

No, it is a permanent move. It will stay at 20:00 ET. That means that in two weeks it will be in conflict with The Amazing Race. For us in Canada, however, since Grimm and TAR are both on CTV, CTV will air Grimm later at 21:00 ET.

[mustbekarma]

What kind of villain purposedly using sex to trick the hero but then too stupid to not taking care of her own birth control?

Adalind Shade.

[thuganomics85]

Grimm is back!  At... a new time-slot?  It's a good thing it's already being renewed, because I don't know what the hell NBC thinks they will gain from bouncing it around like this.

 

So, Juliette coming out to Nick as a Hexenbeast somehow went both better and worst, then she probably expected.  Better in that Nick isn't all "Ahhh!  Hexenbeast!  Die!!!", but worse in that Nick can't barely look at her now in Hexenbiest mode.  Yeah, I do think that makes it a bit worse then Nick being a Grimm.  Especially since it feels like she can't fully control her powers and might woge at wrong times.  Like what would happen if she woged during sexy times?  That would kill the mood very, very fast.  I actually think giving each other space isn't a horrible thing, but judging from next week's previews, Juliette is taking the absolute wrong approach to this. 

Really? Renard? I can understand avoiding any non-Wesen friends, but unless Monroe/Rosalee refuse her, that just seems like a bad idea.

 

Case of the week was certainly one of the colder ones.  They were just straight up murdering those rabbit Wesens for money.  Yeah, the whole interfile part too, but I can't feel bad for them, since I'm sure they knew what was happening.  Glad they put the kibosh on that.  Enjoyed Monroe/Rosalee's part in it, and Rosalee punching out the nurse.

 

Continuing to enjoy the Nick/Hank/Wu trio.  I like that now that he knows, Wu is using his snark in ways that associate with the actual Wesens, that he might not have done if he was still in the dark ("hopping along.")

 

They are really making Adalind pregnant again?  With Nick's child?  She really is one of the dumbest villains ever, yet she somehow keeps staying in the game.  It's almost impressive. 

[mustbekarma]

 

They are really making Adalind pregnant again?  With Nick's child?  She really is one of the dumbest villains ever, yet she somehow keeps staying in the game.  It's almost impressive. 

 

Adalind's father has to be Barney Fife. They both snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

[Prevailing Wind]

 

Cloe? How come Peter's sister's name wasn't Flopsey or Mopsey? Mama Rabbit hasn't been doing her reading.

Betcha the L. Venator's name was MacGregor.  Honestly, I was screaming with laughter when Mom Bun came running out with the rifle, calling, "PETER!!"  That was as much fun as the ziegevolk being named Billy Capra.

[OtterMommy]

Posting before I read all the replies, but I wanted to vomit my thoughts out while they were still fresh.

 

So, at the very last moment of the very last scene something strange happened...Adalind and I were of one mind...."NOOOOO!"  I had prayed that would be a red herring but, no, the writers decided to go the cheap and, let's face it, predictable way and bring in MORE baby drama to a character whose baby drama EVERYONE is already sick of.  What the hell????  (And don't even get me started on the promo).  Babies can be funny in comedies and dramatic in soap operas, but they really don't have a place in a procedural (granted it is a procedural with supernatural elements).  Plus, Adalind should be about 10 months pregnant now....

 

Another thing I noticed, both good and bad, was the background music.  I had watched the sneak peak of Nick and Juliette which, in the peak, did not have any background music.  I already thought it was a good scene but the music really lifted it.  That was the good.  The bad...the fight scene between Nick and the foot chopper.  There was just something oddly off about it and all I can think of was that they had put the wrong music to the wrong scene.  I mean, the action looked find, but the scene just didn't come together.

 

Adalind and Renard.  Adalind, you are an insult to dumb blondes.  Renard, you are like that....but I can't think of a metaphor that fits you.

 

Odd moment....when the teenage boy was chopped, I thought someone (I can't remember if it was his girlfriend, the foot chopper, or the mom) called him Pat. And I thought, "Pat the Bunny?  That's just sad."  Then I found out his name was Peter--as in, Peter Rabbit and that is so, so much not better.

 

Also, there was quite a bit in the 2nd promo that didn't make it into this episode, so it will be interesting to see how that unfolds.

 

As for the good.  Well, they finally MENTIONED the whole blood of a Grimm that they just seemed to ignore for the past 5 or so episodes.  I don't buy Henrietta's claims that it won't work and I think that might be how we get Kelly and/or Trubel back into the picture.

 

Finally, here is what I thought was the best thing of the night....David Giuntoli's acting.  I thought he was a very weak actor when the series began (but one heck of a beautiful man, so I didn't care that much), but he really knocked it out of the park tonight.  He also seems to have aged 10 years in the last 4--even his voice is different--but, hey, he age'd well!  Bitsie Tulloch (who, I'll admit, I spend a lot of time defending) was not as good  as she could have been.  Yeah, her role was strangely written, but she went from a basically nice person to a bitch overnight and I really feel that, as an actress, she could have gone a different way, even with the lines she was given.

 

Unfortunately, though, I think that the show may have ended in a flamboyant leap over a large and vicious salt-water creature.

An appropriate episode for the Easter season..Not. Nothing like happy little bunnies getting their feet chopped off and bleeding to death to put one in the mood for some nice chocolate eggs! 

 

 

I have to admit that when I saw the title of this episode and the date it was airing, I was really hoping for Leprechauns. Oh well, I guess the Easter bunny will work....

What kind of villain purposedly using sex to trick the hero but then too stupid to not taking care of her own birth control?

 

The dumbest villain on TV, that's who.

[tpel]

I felt bad for Juliette when Nick walked out on her to 'think'. I guess it is a lot for him to take in but it's worse for her.

 

Yep, at that moment I thought, "And this is why she didn't tell you first." Her fear that he would kill her was a bit irrational, but it might have been an expression of her much more reasonable fear that he would stop loving her. Saying "I love you" doesn't help much, if you walk out the door. 

 

Of course it wasn't fair of Juliette to demand that Nick kiss her when she's all hexenbiesty, but my estimation of him would have increased tenfold if he had sucked it up and did it. 

[neuromom]

Even before I registered "Peter Rabbitt", I already had the "tortoise and the hare" in my head, because He was established to be a track star.

Chloe was really brave. She didn't wogue because she knew that's what the killer wanted her to do, to get the rabbit foot. She really had to maintain self-control for that. So, I wasn't surprised when she went for vengeance in the end.

I am SO lost on the timeline on this show in regards to when Adalind slept with Nick. Seems to me it was many months ago. And being clueless about being pregnant, while some other Hexenbeist can "read" her somehow? Adalind must be very dense, or more likely just able to focus on one thing at a time.

Maybe the baby holds the secret to "curing" Juliette?

[The Wild Sow]

 

Why didn't the rabbit girl woge?

Because as long as she didn't, her (human) foot was useless to the guy.

Buying time.

[Snarkette]

Juliette is, as always, a moron. Guy says he wants to learn to appreciate that you turn into a living corpse (vs needing to eat a few sammitches, per Bitsie T. norm) and you are written to say "NOT. GOOD. ENOUGH."

 

And couldn't they have let good doctor see some of the arresting (in his office!) so he knows that M&R are goodwesen?

 

Also, doesn't the council have an active hit out on Nick? Over trusting much?

 

Finally, I hated the music, the pacing, the force drama. Whoever directed this shouldn't.

[shapeshifter]

...Continuing to enjoy the Nick/Hank/Wu trio. I like that now that he knows, Wu is using his snark in ways that associate with the actual Wesens, that he might not have done if he was still in the dark ("hopping along.")...

Yes. More of this please. Lots more.

And if it's going to be on earlier, shouldn't they be toning down the horror aspects? Guess not.

I thought it was especially horriffic that the teenage boy who got his foot cut off was a field and track athlete. It made me almost glad that he died rather than losing his ability to do his main thing--but then IRL, many people have become really great at something because they were unable to continue another thing after some accident or tragedy.

Why didn't the rabbit girl woge?

Because as long as she didn't, her (human) foot was useless to the guy.

Buying time.

Yes. But I mean, how did she manage to not woge? I thought wessen can't help woging when they are terrified. I guess she was just really brave? I kept thinking maybe she had a human grandparent or something and that she hadn't inherited wessenness. Edited March 21, 2015 by shapeshifter

[LittleIggy]

I think being a hexenbiest would rock. You have magic powers and stay young looking (see Renard's mom) for a long time. Plus you can woge and scare the crap out of people.

[possibilities]

I was glad the featured some Portland forest scenery well enough lit to see the green of it again a little.

 

Liked girl bunny and Rosalee fighting back and not waiting around for rescue or a male assist.

 

Disappointed in how Nick is handling the hexenbiest reveal. Do we really need relationship angst? And isn't he a hypocrite!

[OtterMommy]

Disappointed in how Nick is handling the hexenbiest reveal. Do we really need relationship angst? And isn't he a hypocrite!

 

I actually thought his reactions were understandable.  Yes, he pulled a gun on Juliette, but he thought it was Adalind (which, given everything that has happened, is a reasonable assumption).  And yes, he walked out...but he had a lot to process.  To be fair, I think seeing your partner become a hexenbiest is a heck of a lot different from hearing your partner tell you he's a Grimm--and let us not forget that Juliette didn't take things too well when Nick told her everything (at least until she slipped into a coma).  As for turning away from Juliette when she woged...did she honestly think he would kiss her lipless face?  That whole scene was just....weird and out of character for Juliette (well, pretty much this entire episode was out of character for her).

Edited March 21, 2015 by OtterMommy

[shapeshifter]

I think being a hexenbiest would rock. You have magic powers and stay young looking (see Renard's mom) for a long time. Plus you can woge and scare the crap out of people.

I was wondering about the not-aging part. Juliette has met Renard's mom, so she should know about that.

I was glad the featured some Portland forest scenery well enough lit to see the green of it again a little.

Yes! At last! I don't think we've had some Pacific Northwest greenery porn since season one.

[icewolf]

DAMMIT!

I can't believe they actually wrote Claire Coffee's real life pregnancy into the series, that was so lazy of them. Nothing good will come from this I tell ya, worst we will get even more episodes focusing on new baby drama. I'm so annoyed right now.

Also that ridiculous last scene at the end with Adalind screaming NOOOOO was straight out of a soap opera! I laughed so hard, I don't think they were going for that.

Juliette trying to force Nick to kiss her new monstrous face was all kinds of wrong.

[RedRockRosie]

Just a thought, but maybe Juliette is not thinking like she used to because she isn't the same person as she was. She is now a hexenbiest. I would think that just might mess with your head a little bit. Plus add to that what she knows about how Grimms hate hexenbiests, I can see how she might push for  NIck to act as though he still loves her the way he did before all the "hexening" happened. JMO but they both need time to adjust.

 

Am loving Wu. OMG, I am so glad he knows and he adds his dark dry snarky humor to things.

 

I am wondering too, if this Adalind /Nick baby (if it is Nick's, but heck, it probably is) might not end up being the thing that will eventually "cure" Juliette.

 

ETA: I kept saying to Juliette..."How can he kiss you when you don't have lips?" lol

Edited March 21, 2015 by RedRockRosie

[PepperMonkey]

Why, oh why, oh WHY must we have another baby? I already despise the ground on which Adalind walks and have been hoping against hope she will just go away along with the "royals" and now here we are with a new baby on the way, and OH YES! It's Nick's baby so it's destined to remain on the show. Which, IMO, is usually the kiss of death for most tv series.

 

I don't personally care if NIck and Juliette stay together; I've always been somewhat surprised that they are a real life couple because I don't think they have any palpable chemistry. I do not care at all for the way they handled each other tonight. He was intolerant and she was impatient. I feel bad for both of them and like them both (well, I love him and tolerate her) but maybe they just don't belong together. Harkening back to when Aunt Marie told him he would have to give her up if he really cares about her; maybe now he will definitely have to do that.

 

Monroe, Rosalee, Hank and Wu continue to be bright spots in the show for me. If we could just PLEASE GOD get back to the Grimmy Gang and maybe some of the past storylines which have been dropped, i.e., the SEVEN KEYS which have never been mentioned again and zombie Nick, and leave Adalind and all the damn baby drama behind, we might have a show worthy of us all staying tuned in and interested!!

Edited March 21, 2015 by PepperMonkey

[The Cake is a Pie]

Sorry, I'm out. I signed on to watch Grimm and "real" fairytales, not All My Wesen or Baby Mama. A Nick/Adalind baby is the last straw.

[NJ RadioGuy]

And what was going through my mind once the Wesen-of-the-week storyline was obvious?
(And why, yes, I think I am going to hell. Save me a spot.)

(cue South Park)

 

Sanctum Peter Cottium
Deus in re unium
hippitus hoppitus Reus Domine

 

In suus via torreum
Lepus in re sanctum
hippitus hoppitus Deus Domine

http://bit.ly/1HdhvR0

[beadgirl]

I feel awful saying this, but I'm really hoping for a miscarriage.  I mean, something like that has to happen, right?  I can't see them working an actual child of Nick's into the show in any decent way.  I did like Henrietta's snarky contempt for Adalind -- she clearly sees that Adalind is not very good at hexenbeisting.

 

Juliette seemed out of character to me -- she's normally so reasonable and low-key about relationship upheaval.  I'll chalk it up to the changes in her because of her new powers, but I really hope she snaps out of her self-pitying mode.  It'd help if Nick could have been a little more convincing about his love for her.  I get why he'd be freaked out about this, but c'mon! Put on a brave face for your girlfriend who's had to endure a ridiculous amount of shit for you!  Fake it 'til you make it!

 

 

And I guess they've forgotten about the spare bedroom. AGAIN.

I know!  I had the same thought.  Would it have been so bad to have Juliette walk into Theresa's old room to wake him up???

 

Cloe was delightful; I loved her refusal to woge, and attacking the guy was icing on the cake.  I hope the Council punishes that infertile couple (and the receptionist) severely.  The idea that killing someone else's child is totally ok so you can get your own sent me into a rage.

Edited March 21, 2015 by beadgirl

[ShadowFacts]

I was very happy to see Nick, Hank, Wu, Monroe, Rosalee back on my screen.  And the actress who played the mother was a standout.  The daughter was good, too.   These two had me feeling their pain.  But the rest of it, kind of disappointing.  I echo what has been said about the new baby, and Juliette's unrealistic expectations of Nick, and the rabbit's foot ugliness.

 

Rosalee would have made a really great Grimm.  I think she can team up with Kelly or Trubel and figure out the solution to turning Juliette back.  Because let's face it, Juliette has to be normalized and back solid with Nick so she can freak out about his upcoming fatherhood.  If they are on the outs and she is biest-y, it doesn't have the same soap-y resonance. 

 

Regarding the ridiculous pregnancy, which I can't believe they're doing, could the baby have Juliette's DNA?  Making it a Grimm baby and not a hex/Grimm mix?  I would hate that slightly less.

 

Henrietta does not have the ring of truthfulness to me, at all.  She has an objective or two of her own.

[shapeshifter]

...And I guess they've forgotten about the spare bedroom. AGAIN.

Ah yes. The magical disappearing guest room. I wonder if the cast make jokes about it, like:

Have you seen my car keys? I can't find them anywhere. I hope I didn't leave them in Nick and Julliet's spare room.

To be fair, he said he didn't want to wake her up, so maybe they have creaky stairs.

Edited March 22, 2015 by shapeshifter

[ElectricBoogaloo]

So will the new baby be a hexengrimm?

 

When the mom was in the back of the ambulance and she said that her son's name was Peter, I just laughed and laughed about Peter Rabbit.

 

At first when Chloe wouldn't woge, I thought maybe she somehow wasn't wesen (haven't we seen other wesen who said that they weren't sure if their kids were wesen until some time in their teen years?).

 

 

Juliette demanding that Nick kiss her while she's in Hexenbiest form was all kinds of hilarious. Like, really show? Yes, that's a good way to test it. Give your bf one day to process you're now a creature then demand he kiss you while you look like a monster? After you told him you went to RENARD first? Goodness, give the guy five minutes to process this.

It kind of reminded me of S1 Buffy when Angel didn't want her to see him with his vamp face. I know it's not totally the same because Juliette was being really aggressive about it. I wish she would give him more than five minutes to get used to the idea that she's a hexenbeist now. I mean, if she had turned into any kind of wesen, it would be weird for Nick (imagine trying to kiss the person you love after they sprout a furry face!) but the fact that they hate Adalind so much is a big factor. To be honest, the hexenbiests we have seen on the show look quite similar when they woge so it's understandable to me that when Juliette did it, he saw what Adalind was. That's not to say that he will always see that when Juliette woges, but again, he hasn't really had much time to process the information and get used to the idea.

[Mrs OldManBalls]

I think being a hexenbiest would rock. You have magic powers and stay young looking (see Renard's mom) for a long time. Plus you can woge and scare the crap out of people.

 

Can you be a nice Hexenbiest? Is Juliette the first human to be made into one? Because of the whole magical mushing together of Juliette/Adalind, will the baby be a Grimm/ Hexenbiest hybrid, or will it be a Nick/Juliette baby? I feel like they will have a hard time keeping a baby-sitter. 

[Starchild]

Will the Europeans be as interested in the new Hexenbaby as they were with the first? Will it being half Grimm make it valuable to them or something to be killed or worse?

I think they're only interested in that baby because it has royal blood.

 

And the actress who played the mother was a standout.

She also played Finn Hudson's mom on Glee. Which means that tonight she was kind of on opposite herself.

 

this baby might end up being the thing that will eventually "cure" Juliette

I hope so, because I would hate to see them turn Juliette into a big bad.

[blueray]

First of all, I forgot it was on until I saw this thread had posts in it lol. Anyhow:

 

It was mostly a good episode. I liked the story about the rabbit wesen and how the girl defended herself. It was nice to see and then of course Hank shot him. I got the impression at least the one couple didn't know where he got the foot, though I suppose they knew he killed someone for it. I also called right away that the doctor was legit.

 

I don't get why Juliette was acting the way that she was. The two of them need to sit down and have a civilized conversation about this. I get that Juliette was showing what she looks like woged, however Nick was trying to talk to her. And I also wonder if some of him closing his eyes was him knowing that they would appear black to Juliette.

 

As for Adlinad being pregnant I growned at the thought of this. However, I did laugh at her Noooooo! I think that is the whole fandom's reaction. 

 

Lastly, I liked the use of Wu in this episode. He was back to his couple one liners but wasn't involved directly in the rescuing of the girl.

[applecrisp]

I am not sure Juliette wants to relinquish her hexenbeist powers.  They are pretty neat except for the woge.

[iMonrey]

This show is frustrating me more and more as it goes along. Hey Nick, you just found out your girlfriend turned into a Hexenbiest. Maybe take a day or two off from work to deal with that, instead of spending the entire episode chasing after a silly wabbit.

 

Clearly there's some mandate to have a Wesen of the Week crime story in every episode, but it puts all the other stuff going on in Nick's life on the perpetual back burner. We get a scene here and a scene there and the "B" plot never seems to move anywhere because the bulk of the time is spent on the latest criminal to pop up. This was fine in Season 1 but now it's getting ridiculous. Especially because every single crime Nick has investigated in the past four years has turned out be be Wesen-related. Every single one. It's absurd. Are there no human criminals in Portland?

 

So Wesen have their own fertility doctors in Portland? Three of them, no less? Why? Are Wesen fertility issues different from human ones? And aren't some Wesen still actively opposed to inter-species breeding? Wouldn't those doctors be under scrutiny not to help people like Monroe and Rosalee?

 

 

Not sure how I feel about Nick promising to tell the Wesen Council. It is a very barbaric ritual, but? The council isn't stopping other barbaric things on their own wherewithal.

 

There's a difference between the official Wesen Council and the fringe group that kidnapped Monroe a few episodes back. The latter has a special name which I cannot recall but they are not sanctioned by the Wesen Council. They're more like the Wesen KKK. I think the real Wesen Council is primarily concerned with Wesen not exposing their existence to humans, or in this case, killing other Wesen.

 

[TobinAlbers]

I don't think they forgot about the spare room; it's just easier for Nick to say he 'accidentally' fell asleep on the couch than his deliberately choosing to sleep in the spare bedroom. One he can play off as an unintentional slight, the other straight up says ' I don't want to be anywhere near you.'

But honestly if Nick was really that distrustful of Juliette he wouldn't have come home. He easily could've crashed in the trailer or at Hanks. He came home so that's something.

I'm actually intrigued by this darker Juliette; she's normally the nice girl and safe harbor but now she's been 'corrupted'. How she handles the changes is a measure of her character. It seems 2 things are going on with her: this new power that gives her a sense of control finally and also allows her an active outlet for her pent up rage may be starting to corrupt her and her pent up resentment of Nick at not only being a Grimm but what it has done to her has reached a breaking point. She claims she wants his acceptance but I think a part of her may not want his immediate acceptance for it gives her a legit reason to let out some of her anger at him for what has happened to her. She doesn't want to admit that she does blame him for what's happened and that because of him she will never be the same again.

And the other thing she's mad about is that a part of her *likes* her new power and she hates herself for it and the person that brought thus into her life? Nick.

I don't buy that Grimm and Hexenbeist have an above normal antipathy for each other that they don't share with other wesen: but TPTB have set it up nicely for Juliette between her power and latent resentment to ultimately be a powerful antagonist for Nick. She's pretty much following the pattern of a beloved confidant being horribly changed due to their being close to the hero, the change giving them power even as it corrupts their sanity and then they turning on the hero because they won't accept them/avenge them and /or they blame them for making their life hell. I can totally see this tearing Nick and Juliette apart but I'm really interested in seeing what Juliette evolves into and her new role in the Grimm verse. Will she be the Jason Todd or Huntress to his Batman or straight up villain that Nick will have to put down?

[RedRockRosie]

 

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    And I guess they've forgotten about the spare bedroom. AGAIN.

 

I know!  I had the same thought.  Would it have been so bad to have Juliette walk into Theresa's old room to wake him up???

 

Oh I don't think it's a big deal. Maybe Nick just didn't feel like moving all the crap they put on the bed when they cleaned out the closet.lol

Maybe he felt safer on the couch downstairs.....or maybe production didn't have the bedroom set ready to use.....

[Prevailing Wind]

 

Especially because every single crime Nick has investigated in the past four years has turned out be be Wesen-related. Every single one.

We don't really know that.  The show is called "Grimm," not "Nick Burkhardt of Portland PD" - so we only see the Grimm-related cases.  The same way on "McMillan & Wife" - we only saw the cases that involved Mac's wife, not ALL the cases he was involved in.  There may be other non-Wesen cases Nick & Hank catch that we never hear about.  I'm sure Stottlemeyer & Randy solved cases were they didn't need Monk, either, so we never heard about them.

[FormerMod-a1]

Regarding sleeping on the couch...  Didn't Nick say he got back late and didn't want to disturb her by going upstairs?  I don't know, maybe it's because I fall asleep on the couch all the time, but I don't think it's a big deal.

 

On another note, what happened to Nick's super hearing and ninja fighting skills?  I thought for sure he'd be able to "track" the guy and tied up girl with his hearing, or at least hear her struggle, but instead he didn't hear anything until the accordion music trap.  

[Prevailing Wind]

 

he didn't hear anything until the accordion music trap.

That reminded me of the very first episode, with the little figurine laying in woods, luring the red riding hoods to their doom.

[Shanna Marie]

I think Juliette is actually trying to drive Nick away, at least subconsciously. Not that she really wants him to leave her, but she's so afraid right now. She's afraid of what she is, she's afraid she'll hurt him without being able to control herself, she's afraid of what she'll see in his face when he looks at her right now. And if she's Wesen, does that mean she now sees the scary Grimmness in his eyes when she woges and looks at him? She probably feels like it's inevitable that she's going to lose him, so she may as well get it out of the way now. She was pretty sure that he'd react horribly to her current state and either try to kill her or completely freak out and kick her out or leave her, but instead he surprised her by being fairly reasonable. He's blaming himself, trying to find a way to fix it, trying to make the best of it, and that's prolonging her agony, so she's kind of setting up a self-fulfilling prophecy right now. She's sure he'll leave, so she's pushing him away.

 

I thought the accordion music trap masked any other sounds. Nick can hear faint sounds, but if there's a louder sound, he may not be able to hear the faint ones. He might be able to hear whispers in another room, but he couldn't hear people whispering at a concert.

 

I liked Peter and was sad to see him die so soon. His sister was pretty awesome. I was rather proud of her for rescuing herself and having the self control not to give the creep what he wanted.

[FormerMod-a1]

I thought the accordion music trap masked any other sounds. Nick can hear faint sounds, but if there's a louder sound, he may not be able to hear the faint ones. He might be able to hear whispers in another room, but he couldn't hear people whispering at a concert.

 

The accordion didn't happen until after he dragged her around and quite a bit of the girl struggling by herself after he walked away.   That's when Nick should have been able to hear something.  Not during the accordion playing.

[TimetoShine]

I'm glad I came here before watching. I can't take another baby storyline. I'm going to bow out.

[Fable]

What a disappointing episode.  Adalind is pregnant with Nick's child?  GAH!  I can't even!  Nick and Juliette are going to have another relationship crisis…again, I can't even! 

 

This is a show about Grimms and Wesens, and while probably a few side stories are necessary, I don't watch this show for drama.  I have enough dramas on my TV plate as it is. 

 

If this becomes too angsty, I'll probably have to show myself to the door.  This isn't the stuff I signed up for. 

 

 

Henrietta does not have the ring of truthfulness to me, at all.  She has an objective or two of her own.

 

I agree, Henrietta seems to have an agenda, and I am hoping she cannot be trusted, because right now, I am just about at my wits end with where the story seems to be heading.