S05.E13: Forget

[HalcyonDays]

Episode synopsis: As Rick and the others continue to acclimate to their new surroundings, they consider a return to normalcy.

 

[HalcyonDays]

This is your thread to discuss the 13th episode of season 5 - Forget. The gang is still in Alexandria hanging out, taking showers, sleeping comfortably, wearing clean clothes, eating good food, side-eyeing the others, kicking butt and taking names (wait, what?)

 

Please keep all discussions friendly, respectful, creative and intelligent. As always, please do not post any comic spoilers in this thread, unless you liberally spoiler tag it. Also, for the record, ASZ (for Alexandria Safe Zone) is no longer considered a spoiler and can be used as a shortform to refer to the Alexandria community.

 

This thread will open at 10:00 pm. Prior to that, please go to the Pre Air and Speculation thread to chat about the show until then. Be good and Happy posting.

[Zaps325]

Rick, Governor 2.0, has gone bat shit. 

Edited March 9, 2015 by Zaps325

[missy jo]

RIP Buttons! Even though I don't get why they saw him as "pet" instead of "meat," that was still hard to watch.

[TexasChic]

That was a weird ass ending with that music and Rick looking all crazy.

[TigerLynx]

Damn, why did they have to kill the horse?

 

Would someone please cut Darryl's hair.

 

Carol was freaking me out with her smiles before she threatened the kid.

 

The Alexandrians lavish praise, over the top friendliness, and optimism makes them seem more and more fake.

[SimoneS]

Carol has lost her freaking mind. She is bat shit crazy.

 

It is good that Daryl wants to try, but Rick cannot let his guard down. I am still hoping Rick gets to hit the blonde.

 

If Deanna is so smart, how come she cannot see that Sacha has PSTD.

[xaxat]

I really like post Tyreese/Bob Sasha.

[MrsRafaelBarba]

Not feeling this place or. that flat assed bitch Jessie.

[catrox14]

Okay, WTFucking actual fuck is Rick doing? Has he gone crazy again?

 

Is the Scarlet Letter filled with some kind of mind control drug? 

 

Rick better be playing a game with the blonde chick because that pisses me off that Rick kissed Jesse.  Ew ew ew ew.  Rick you dumbass. Michonne is RIGHT THERE. 

 

Carol was my hero in this episode.  I love her BSC speech to that annoying brat. 

 

I'm super creeped about Stepfordville

Edited March 9, 2015 by catrox14

[Zaps325]

Okay, every minute they spend in the community with this question unanswered just bugs me. 

 

Do they know everyone is infected? Do they or do they not have a protocol for when (not if, but when) someone has a heart attack or a brain aneurysm in the middle of the night? 

 

That occurrence is looming.

[Pete Martell]

This was a very apt title for me. Everything with Rick and Jessie feels very contrived, and as always with major pairings TWD pushes as what we're supposed to root for - they have anti-chemistry. (the only canon pairing on this show I've ever really supported that lasted for more than a handful of episodes has been Maggie/Glenn)

 

Jessie magically appearing for Rick's hair and family and lips is just so cheesy and so rushed. She feels like a big step backwards, and she has little purpose of her own.

Edited March 9, 2015 by Pete Martell

[bmoore4026]

Damn, Carol!  That's all I can say, daaaaaaaaamn!

 

Also, bye-bye Buttons - The Metaphor for Daryl Horse.

 

With that out of the way, let the happy-happy Daryl gay threesome begin!

[janie31]

Morgan street!!

Scarlet letter!

Interesting episode.

[Brooklynista]

I don't even WANT any damn cookies now. Shit Carol!

[minamurray78]

Carol cannot even be bothered with kids anymore, well I gues after Lizzie she's just had it with short people.

Also, well, I don't have children, but was that kid for real, "I tell everything to my mom"? really?

[SoSueMe]

Okay, remember last week:

 

Glenn - "We were almost out there too long."

 

Uh, I don't think there is any almost about it.

[mustbekarma]

Two things really disturbed me this episode. First of all, Carol threatening to kill the kid was just not right. I've just demoted her from Badass in my mind.  I also hated how naive Deanna was. Seriously, I thought she was smart. Now I think she's a dumbass.

 

Killing Buttons and that damn song at the end, that wasn't disturbing. That was downright mean.

 

I think most of the people from Alexandria are going to be dead. They are completely unprepared to handle life as it really is. In reality, every camp can't be cannibals or the Governor, but these guys are taking it to the other extreme How can people be that damn sheltered? 

 

They are the luckiest people in the world.

[Zaps325]

Carl is going to lose his shit if he finds out about his dad flirting with Jesse, what with the blood of his mother still in his mind. 

[lulee]

Carol - damn, I know Melissa McBride said that Carol would go even further down the trail of ruthlessness (something to that effect) but damn, could she have just tricked the kid that she was back to make cookies?

[SnoGirl]

Well, Carol is definitely looking out for the group. Geez, she was crazy intense. I actually cannot believe she didn't kill the kid. I didn't want her to, but I so thought they were going to go there since the episode was so tame.

Rick is going Shane unhinged. Him chasing after Jesse and him by the fence, Shane has to be rolling in his grave. He's doing the same damn things!

[editorgrrl]

RIP Buttons! Even though I don't get why they saw him as "pet" instead of "meat," that was still hard to watch.

Olivia claimed Buttons' leg.

[Sunsetlament]

Didn't they establish earlier in the series that the walkers don't attack animals, just humans?  Or am I remembering that from other zombie movies only?  At one point, I thought there was a dog that could walk freely around the walkers with no trouble.

Edited March 9, 2015 by Sunsetlament

[bosawks]

Ah, Season 5, the season that I found someone eating spaghetti grosser than that same someone crushing a skull with his boot like a ripe melon.

[NorthstarATL]

I was so sad when Michonne hung up her sword. I kept flashing back to Woodbury and how difficult it had been for her to relinquish it, and now? Carol, OTOH, is the scariest person in Alexandria! Sam's going to have nightmares! Or cookies. Or both.

  Did Daryl never eat in public pre-ZA? Sheesh! Anyway, I smell threesome!

  Poor Sasha. I wish we'd seen more of Maggie as well. I think it might be harder for those who have more recently lost loved ones to acclimate to a setting that the deceased had come so close to sharing.

[Macbeth]

Rickchonne is apparently over and I am pissed.

 

And Daron is now a thing.  Who knew Daryl would be tamed so easily - he had tears in his eyes when Aaron gave him a job!  Aaron the Daryl Whisperer.  Major props.

 

Aaron's boyfriend should be worried about being tied to a tree and left for dead. 

[Mu Shu]

Didn't one of the cars at Terminus have an "A" on it?   As did FPP's chucch?

 

LOL, Carol.   That greedy little whinebag kid who wanted all the fucking cookies deserved that. 

 

Aaron's just waiting to be able to tell nerdy Eric "It's not you, it's me".   I knew he thinks these are some hinky fuckers. 

[catrox14]

Didn't they establish earlier in the series that the walkers don't attack animals, just humans?  Or am I remembering that from other zombie movies only?  At one point, I thought there was a dog that could walk freely around the walkers with no trouble.

 

The Walkers ate Rick's horse in s1

[ghoulina]

This episode was interesting. It seems like quite a few of them are suffering from some sort of PSTD. Or Stockholm Syndrome. Rick at the wall, almost happy to hear the walker sounds. And Sasha wanting nothing more than to kill walkers. Like she can't function if that's not her daily life. Some are definitely adjusting better than others. 

 

And Rick has gone totally feral. He is an animal and he will take what he wants. The town. Jessie. No matter. 

 

I'm very disturbed by Carol in the gunroom with that little boy. Carol has proven that she can be ruthless when protecting those she loves. But we've never seen her do anything that malicious to a purely innocent person. It felt a bit out of character. 

 

I do think it was wise for them to stockpile extra guns, given we've seen that the Unfair Wolves have made it this far, but that whole thing was sloppy. Couldn't they have included one more person to post watch? Damn. 

 

Up until that moment Carol had been perfect, though. I loved her walking around with a constant smile and making mundane chit chat with all the housewives. 

 

I really enjoyed the scenes with Daryl and Aaron. I appreciate that Aaron is really making an attempt to reach out to him and make him feel useful. The horse, though! Gah! I loved when Daryl said - "The longer they're out there, the more they become what they really are". So applicable to a lot of our group. 

 

Judith and the return of the SOLO cup! Melts my heart.

[tennisgurl]

Damn Carol. You are one scary as hell woman. She might be even scarier now in her pastels. 

 

Loved seeing Daryl try to fit in more, and bonding with the recruiter guy and his boyfriend. Now if they could just point him in the direction of a shower...

 

I almost didn't recognize our gang all cleaned up. I just kept thinking of that episode of Brooklyn Nine Nine when all the cops were trying to blend at their bosses fancy cocktail party. "Don't move as a group! You’re not gazelles!”

 

Zombies are tough. Small talk is harder.

 

I got emotional when Michonne put her katana up. I`m not a huge shipper, but come on Rick. This lady is nice, but she`s no Michonne. 

[Zaps325]

Didn't they establish earlier in the series that the walkers don't attack animals, just humans?  Or am I remembering that from other zombie movies only?  At one point, I thought there was a dog that could walk freely around the walkers with no trouble.

No, in one of the first episodes Rick found a horse only to have it be eaten by a herd in Atlanta. 

[Dodginblue]

Wow, I think some of our group have some real issues.   I get Sasha's reaction at the cocktail party, it had to been surreal standing around making meaningless small talk with strangers but taking those family photos outside and shooting them up?  Not sure where the catharsis in that is.  And Carol, dear sweet motherly Carol...way to go all creepy psycho on that poor little kid.  He just wanted some cookies!  For a second I thought she was going to kill him right there, I think she was considering it, I really do.

 

Happy to see Daryl making a friend.  Although I wonder if Aaron is trying to create some distance between Rick and Daryl with his comment about Rick not always being able to tell good guys from bad guys.    

 

Nice to see some of the other characters have a few lines.  I liked the exchange between Michonne and Abraham and Maggie and Glenn reaching out to Noah.  

Edited March 9, 2015 by Dodginblue

[TexasChic]

With that out of the way, let the happy-happy Daryl gay threesome begin!

I wondered if I was the only one thinking that. LOL!

[swishandflick]

When Rick fucks the blonde chick IM GOING TO HAVE A RAGE STROKE. NO! Please no more love triangles. Stab her in the face now.

[SoSueMe]

Well, I guess we will have another child actor with years of therapy in his future. :)

[Racj82]

What the fuck was up with Rick at the end? He looked like he wanted to blow that husbands head off.

 

Man, I don't think our group will ever be "okay". I don't think they will be okay in any sort of "happy" setting. They may damaged with no help of fixing.

 

I though Abraham was going to drunkenly hit on Michionne which also made me realize that we and the group are in a totally different show right now. Worrying about drunken cheating is not what worry about on this show.

 

I hate that I'm just a doubtful as the group. People complain about the Walking Dead reusing plotlines but it works so well. After seeing the group be like Charlie Brown trying to kick that football, you can't help but wait for the ball to be moved right now.

 

Carol was seriously chilling. It's interesting seeing her give no fucks attitude in a setting like this.

 

I can already feel my eyes hurting from the eye rolling I'm going to do from people whining about the damn horse. Sorry, but I don't care. It's a damn horse. Human beings get ripped apart on this show all the time. The fact that people are so cool with that but will quit a show because of animal death is the dumbest thing to me (sorry animal lovers).

[minamurray78]

Frankly, I'm a little more scared for the ASZ folks as of now. CDB are gonna eat this town alive. Figuratively speaking.

 

Pasta makers? chocolate cookies?  what are this  people thinking?

[kikismom]

Ah, the poor dead horse being beaten tonight...

[Zaps325]

When Rick fucks the blonde chick IM GOING TO HAVE A RAGE STROKE. NO! Please no more love triangles. Stab her in the face now.

Hopefully she will soon enough realize Rick is crazy.

[catrox14]

When Rick fucks the blonde chick IM GOING TO HAVE A RAGE STROKE. NO! Please no more love triangles. Stab her in the face now.

 

Honest to gods. I have been with Rick from minute one of the show. I have never wavered in my support of Rick even when he did some shitty things. But if he screws her and it's even close to being an emotional connection beyond wanting to get laid, or if he sexually assaults her.....I will rage quit. 

[Nanrad]

That Jessie kiss was far too quick, but i was half way paying attention.

[Pete Martell]

And Daron is now a thing.  Who knew Daryl would be tamed so easily - he had tears in his eyes when Aaron gave him a job!  Aaron the Daryl Whisperer.  Major props.

 

At this point Daryl/Aaron/Eric as a triad, with Carol popping in sometimes and threatening to kill Eric and Aaron if they don't treat him right, would be more believable than some of these pairings...

[truelovekiss]

Okay, so I always thought that if I could pick one person from the show as my zombie apocalypse partner, it would be Daryl or Rick or maybe Michonne. I officially pick Carol. Out of all of CDB, she's clearly the most ruthless and badass. She'll do what she has to in order to protect her own, even if that means threatening the life of a ten year old. That's the kind of crazy bitch I want on my side.

[minamurray78]

oh god, my streaming went down for a bit, there was a kiss already?? Figures the reason to get the characters washed and shaved was to bring the hanky panky back to the screen without making it look gross.

 

eta: I'm all for Daryl expanding his horizons and making new friends.

 

And he didn't even need a haircut.

Edited March 9, 2015 by minamurray78

[Rosiejuliemom]

To quote Kevin Smith: "This show is a porch-dick to horses!"

[SoSueMe]

Geez, that little boy is in a world of trouble. Blond and named Sam (remember the other Sam? )

[Raachel2008]

These walls look so damn weak.

 

All those Alexandrians can go. Not a single one of them have what it takes to survive and Deanna is marginally interesting - and condescending as hell to Sasha and everybody else, so, back up, bitch, now.

 

Die, Jesse, die. What a fucking contrived plot. Rick was married to Lori and say whatever you want about the woman but she had personality, Jess is blander than cottoage cheese on white bread. I don't buy it for a second.

 

Richonne forever.

 

Carol and the kid was hard to watch, but I get it: she knows this shit is not real.

 

That end was creepy. Really.

Edited March 9, 2015 by Raachel2008

[Ellaria]

Rick is crazy. Carol is crazy. Sasha is crazy.

I don't like Rick and the blonde. It seemed so perfect with Michonne.

I'm not sure what to make of Alexandria. I don't think it's a pretense. I don't think that they are villains. They seem to have all of the answers but it's just too good to be true. Deanna is too caught up in trying to create Utopia. She is missing out on some of the hard facts of this world.

Where do those supplies keep coming from? Beer, plastic cups, wine, spaghetti...wouldn't all of that have run out by now.

[apollonia666]

Does anyone know the name of the song that was playing at the end?

 

I thought for sure Abraham was about to make a pass at Michonne, and I'm glad he didn't.  I found him more likable in that scene than he's ever been before, but if he'd hit on her that would have blown it.  I'm not a shipper, but I would like Michonne to get some one of these days -- not with Abraham, though.

[TexasChic]

What Carol said to the kid was brutal, but it seemed to be the only thing she could have done to protect them. 

Edited March 9, 2015 by TexasChic