Michelle and JimBob aka J'Chelle and Boob

[Jellybeans]

I don't doubt they aren't strict about masturbation, but that story by the time it's told is third hand. The other stories sound more credible and are close to the source.

which masturbation stories?

[JoanArc]

which masturbation stories?

I think it refers to the other stories in the article that are non-masturbation related.

[whydoiwatch]

Some things can't be undone, or should I say unseen. Curiosity got the best of me and I looked up Boob and Me-chelle's golf course shenanigans. Good lord, WHO does that in public and in front of your children? 

[dillpickles]

Not trying to defend JB & M but I think printing anonymous stories is pretty crappy and doubt the legitimacy of them. Even the one about the woman looking like a boy, I doubt JB saw the movie or read the book to be able to come up with that reference. I really disagree with their beliefs and philosophies but I don't like anonymous pot shots. I am sure there are lots of true stories that are just as bad but at least put your name to it.

I dunno, i don't think you should have to put your name to the stories if you don't feel conformable. if they're actually legitimate stories, there's a chance a duggar could recognize you. Even without that you could risk leg humpers and crazies searching your name all over social media.

But, i take anon-stories with a large grain of salt, so i doubt some of these.

[Ivy26]

Yeah, I gotta agree.  It's one thing to say who you are, but anonymous tipsters are just wrong.  Plus, the "Girls Don't Cry" reference?  Jim Bob would have watched the Birdcage before Boys Dont Cry

[Oldernowiser]

Some things can't be undone, or should I say unseen. Curiosity got the best of me and I looked up Boob and Me-chelle's golf course shenanigans. Good lord, WHO does that in public and in front of your children?

Yeah...I made the same mistake. It reminded me most of the monkey house at the Bronx Zoo.

It makes me look with even more skepticism toward anyone who would want to marry into this family, knowing the depth of insanity that lurks in the gene pool.

[bigskygirl]

I have moved a few money topic posts to the Duggar Job and Money thread. Please try to use this thread for money and job related discussion. Thank you.

[Julia]

Plus, the "Girls Don't Cry" reference?  Jim Bob would have watched the Birdcage before Boys Dont Cry

 

I don't know that the Duggars have had to know anything about trans people in the past to have all kinds of opinions about them.

 

In any event, I'd be willing to bet there was quite a bit of discussion about the Teena case in Jim Bob's circle, and disapproval of the movie as an evil tainted secular influence for being sympathetic about what happened to Brandon Teena. After all, Brandon Teena was born with a vagina, which he declined to use in the service of whatever man God intended to make use of it, and had a girlfriend, whose vagina was also lying fallow as a result. And worse than that, Brandon defrauded the men who killed him into believing he was their equal, instead of just a girl. 

Edited May 30, 2015 by Julia

[allonsyalice]

Uh.

An interview with Megyn Kelly on Fox News next week to

 

 

share our hearts with you about the pain that we walked through as a family twelve years ago, the tears we all shed and the forgiveness that was given.

 

http://duggarfamily.com/michelles-blog?ID=32d6a69f-8c49-4dd0-8961-f524b563916e

[Bella]

Well, that should provide lots of insight. /sarcasm

 

I predict the interview will be all about Josh, JB, and MEchelle, with little to no mention of his victims except to possibly claim that they have forgiven Josh. 

[Fuzzysox]

Uh.

An interview with Megyn Kelly on Fox News next week to

http://duggarfamily.com/michelles-blog?ID=32d6a69f-8c49-4dd0-8961-f524b563916e

I have no clue who Megyn Kelly is but I bet the Duggars will be busy this weekend between rehabbing the TTH #2 and writting out cue cards for this interview. It will probably be a well rehersed bullshit show. They will never admit to anything because they prayed it all away. Edited May 30, 2015 by Fuzzysox

[JoanArc]

Wow, Fox News devoted TWO MINUTES total to the Duggar scandal. No wonder JB&M picked them.

[Hpmec]

No one on Fox is going to ask any tough questions. This is going to be the Duggars preaching to the choir about "mistakes" and how Josh turned to God and how God forgave him and therefore it's all ok. And they will be wondering aloud what all the fuss is about since this all happened long ago and they've put it behind them. Oh, and did they mention Jesus forgives Josh and the viewers should too. And they'd like to carry on with the show since it's their ministry and they want to encourage all of the Fox viewers to contact TLC to put this Godly family back on the air so they continue to give people hope and inspiration.

Guaranteed the following words and phrases will not come up: crime, felonies, incest, child molester, police investigation, offender, statute of limitations, victims, juvenile justice system, child protective services, Gothard and anything associated with Gothard.

Just call this what it is....A clumsy attempt at covering their asses and presenting themselves as victims in hopes of resurrecting the gravy train.

Edited May 30, 2015 by Hpmec

[JoanArc]

 

Just call this what it is....A clumsy attempt at covering their asses and presenting themselves as victims in hopes of resurrecting the gravy train.

Honestly, I think it will backfire. The Funny or Die Sketch is the Zeitgeist. They just can't overcome that. Even on Fox.

[Cherrio]

Well, that should provide lots of insight. /sarcasm

 

I predict the interview will be all about Josh, JB, and MEchelle, with little to no mention of his victims except to possibly claim that they have forgiven Josh. 

Oh, Megan, we prayed and prayed at The Church of the Holy Storage Shed.    We got him a crew cut and sent him to Hobby Lobby to rearrange the yarn aisle.

        Jim Bob went to a trusted friend who like most of our friends has lost their liberty, license to practice medicine or was never educated at all.  They are all righteous people and I fulfilled each and every one of them.

[truthtalk2014]

I wonder if the interview includes Joshie poo.  Highly doubt it.

[JenCarroll]

Oh man. Just started on my morning coffee, and I swear I read that as "Josie's poo." And I'm thinking, "Haven't we seen enough of that?" :-)

[BitterApple]

I'm a Fox News watcher and I love Megyn. Of course the questions are going to be softballs and pre-screened, but that's not something that's exclusive to the Duggars. Regardless of where you fall on the political spectrum, if you're embroiled in a big-time scandal you go with the media source that will give you the best edit.

[Oldernowiser]

So here's my question...for many years in JB's mind he has been God's right hand, bestie, and most favorite dude--he gets big money, a "platform for his testimony," baby after baby, etc. Having blamed "sin in the camp" (meaning Josh and those temptresses) for his losing the primary and all of that money, it's logical he would view all the goodies that came after he "dealt with it" as a stamp of approval, right? Clearly God must think JimBob is the shizzle.

(I can't believe I just use the word " logical" in a sentence about JimBob.

Please forgive me.

Oh good, now it never happened, that's a relief. )

Anyhow. Back to my question...who or what is he going to blame now that it's all blown up?

[Churchhoney]

I don't envy Megyn Kelly this get. There really won't be any way to do this right. And the problem won't just be the crap she'll get from tons of people no matter HOW she approaches it.

 

The Duggars are going to be incredibly frustrating and infuriating people for anyone to try to do an actual serious interview with. I'm not sure either JImBob or Michelle even knows how to make a non-canned, so-vague-it's-meaningless statement about anything any more. So Kelly's going to end up with a big fat hour of nothing, no matter what she tries to do, i expect. No interviewer wants that to happen, even if they're fervent fans of the interview subjects -- and while she may be a fan, I doubt that she's fervent.

[SoSueMe]

No one on Fox is going to ask any tough questions. This is going to be the Duggars preaching to the choir about "mistakes" and how Josh turned to God and how God forgave him and therefore it's all ok. And they will be wondering aloud what all the fuss is about since this all happened long ago and they've put it behind them. Oh, and did they mention Jesus forgives Josh and the viewers should too. And they'd like to carry on with the show since it's their ministry and they want to encourage all of the Fox viewers to contact TLC to put this Godly family back on the air so they continue to give people hope and inspiration.

Guaranteed the following words and phrases will not come up: crime, felonies, incest, child molester, police investigation, offender, statute of limitations, victims, juvenile justice system, child protective services, Gothard and anything associated with Gothard.

Just call this what it is....A clumsy attempt at covering their asses and presenting themselves as victims in hopes of resurrecting the gravy train.

I fervently hope that someone will take one for the team and dvr this (I can't, no dvr) because I suspect you are correct about the "non-approved by JimBob word list".

[galax-arena]

Regardless of where you fall on the political spectrum, if you're embroiled in a big-time scandal you go with the media source that will give you the best edit.

Oh, for sure. Still, it's nice to think about the Duggars wilting under tough cross-examination questions from the likes of another news network. Or hell, even someone like Oprah. 

[Joe Jitsu913]

The fact that they're doing an interview at all speaks volumes about their priorities and mostly who their god is : money.They're using this interview to tug at the heartstrings of their faithful viewers, "See, we really love baby Jesus and we're SORT OF sorry this ever happened! Real Christians forgive others. Now please give us back our show (and our money)!' Cut to Michelle dabbing away non-existent years with her permed Mullet hair piece perfectly in place. Jim Bob will quote scripture and say 'God tells us to repent for our sins and we're cleansed by the blood of Jesus. We handled this by seeking guidance through our church elders. We felt like this was the best way to handle this. To the viewers and and fans of the show, we are repentant and ask for your support to continue our ministry through the show.'

Jim Bob will be wearing a cheap looking suit with his helmet hair, arm carefully placed around simpering Michelle who is wearing her signature blue shirt.

At least, that's how I imagine the interview will happen.

Edited May 30, 2015 by Joe Jitsu913

[Micks Picks]

Funny how so many people never do and never would watch Fox news but have prejudged how this interview will transpire.

[DollEyes]

Good grief! JB & Michelle have failed their kids in general and Josh & his victims in particular on way too many levels for me to even consider feeling sorry for them. As for their pending "interview," of course they're going to try to quote scripture and wrap themselves in the American flag while crying the whole time. Nothing about these self-righteous, hypocritical assclowns shocks me anymore.

 

  As for Faux News' part in all this, given JB & Michelle's hatred for the so-called "lamestream" media, how ironic that they're now going to go public on what is arguably the lamest of them all. About my experience with Faux, like I say, "I don't have to attend a skunk convention to know that chances are, it'll stink."

Edited May 31, 2015 by DollEyes

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

I wonder if the interview includes Joshie poo. Highly doubt it.

I hope not, at least for Megyn Kelly's sake. She has some seriously defrauding legs. (Just google "Megyn Kelly Legs")

She better pull out her best maxi skirt or else she might defraud Josh. Since he can't be expected to control his actions (per Gothard), who knows what he might try to do to her....

Edited May 30, 2015 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[JoanArc]

 

Cut to Michelle dabbing away non-existent years with her permed Mullet hair piece perfectly in place.

I think she'll be crying for real this time, no need to jab Kleenex in to the corners of her eyes and sniffle. After all, it's all been so hard ON HER, so of course she can cry.

[ZoloftBlob]

Funny how so many people never do and never would watch Fox news but have prejudged how this interview will transpire

 

Oh I watch Fox News and frankly, while I think its possible Megyn will go for the throat (it's child molestation and the Duggars are far more extremely right than Fox News, hence they are making all the Republicans look bad) there's also a really good chance it will be a fluffy softball mess.

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

I really hope the girls aren't a part of this interview.

[Julia]

Megyn Kelly will occasionally surprise me by challenging the patriarchal assumptions of coworkers and guests, and (more to the point) Fox is decidedly not on the Huckabee train. I don't know that this is going to be as much of a free ride as they're hoping for. For some things, it's not enough that liberals disapprove of you. I have to hope not protecting your daughters from your son is one of them.

If it were me, I would have gone for the slam dunk softball (yeah, I know, mixed metaphor) and talked to Pat Robertson on ABC Family.

[mbutterfly]

I don't envy Megyn Kelly this get. There really won't be any way to do this right. And the problem won't just be the crap she'll get from tons of people no matter HOW she approaches it.

 

The Duggars are going to be incredibly frustrating and infuriating people for anyone to try to do an actual serious interview with. I'm not sure either JImBob or Michelle even knows how to make a non-canned, so-vague-it's-meaningless statement about anything any more. So Kelly's going to end up with a big fat hour of nothing, no matter what she tries to do, i expect. No interviewer wants that to happen, even if they're fervent fans of the interview subjects -- and while she may be a fan, I doubt that she's fervent.

I have trouble seeing her as a fan. I don't mean she would hate them. I just figure that for her personally there's nothing to see there -- once you eliminate the sexual abuse of several of the Duggar children. 

[SomePity1066]

Oh, Megan, we prayed and prayed at The Church of the Holy Storage Shed.    We got him a crew cut and sent him to Hobby Lobby to rearrange the yarn aisle.

        Jim Bob went to a trusted friend who like most of our friends has lost their liberty, license to practice medicine or was never educated at all.  They are all righteous people and I fulfilled each and every one of them.

Oh, Cheerio, in the midst of all this sadness and deception you made me belly-laugh. Loudly. Like enough to wake up my dog, who did the "What the what ?!?!" head-tilt that dogs are so good at...

 

There are SO many things I want, and DON'T want to happen at the interview, if it does, in fact, happen. Here's my short list while I'm on a tear:

 

• JB and Michelle - Do NOT wear matching outfits. We already think you're freaky cult members just this side shy of purple shrouds and matching Nikes. You can look like a couple without looking like twins, which only adds to the incest creep-factor here.
• For the love of Jeebus, Michelle, do NOT gaze adoringly at JB while he speaks. Your "Headship" obviously sank. Be your own woman, be a MOTHER, for once, you Stepford Clown Car. And for once, try to look like you didn't just get Tasered. Be involved. Nod appropriately. Keep your eyeballs in their sockets. And try using a normal voice. I'm pretty sure you had one once.
• If you dare say "We prayed it away" I swear I will shoot my TV like Elvis did. That goes double for "We purposed to..." or "It was placed on our hearts...". 
• Don't even TRY to lie your way out of this ! We know the timeline, the multiple coverups, and the backtracking. Fox News may give you a pass, but it will be minutes - maybe even SECONDS - before your next try at deception hits the Internet. Resistance is futile, so 'fess up, already.
• If the girls, any of them, are blamed in any way, there's not much I can do, but I'd hope there would be two lightning bolts on their way to the Fox studio with your names on them. 
• "Modesty" or any of your deluded variations of it, is verboten. Just shut the fuck up. You preach and preach about modesty and how women are solely to blame for tempting the menfolk to lustful thoughts, while men and their hormones and erections (a totally NATURAL occurrence, BTW) are given a pass. For a religion so centered on control, control, control, where, oh where, is the SELF control ? The girls' modesty dress, back in the day of the prairie dresses and Peter Pan collars, could have not been more covering and nun-like. But your Joshie found his way though that, didn't he ? WHILE THEY WERE SLEEPING ! He harbored unnatural lust for the only victims he could access, regardless of their dress. And for a five year-old. Really ? REALLY ? What temptress was she made out to be ? Was she told to be less "sexy" while she played with her blocks and dolls ?
• Explain where Josh REALLY was. Not an ATI camp, not in therapy. He was at a friend's house helping with home renovations. The logic of that boggles the mind. Does "hard work" erase a crime. Does Joshie hanging drywall all day give any peace to the survivors of his sexual assault ? And then he's off to a "stern talking to" by a Police Officer/child pornographer. Wait, what... ? [snip]
• You are piss-poor excuses for parents and human beings. Your brand of Christianity would make Jesus himself gag. It's time to recognize your numerous offenses and mistakes and CHANGE. As in TOTALLY change. Away with ATI, IBFP, Gothard, and all the rest. You have a chance to rebuild your family, most probably without Josh, but in a way that doesn't harm the clueless, indoctrinated Anna and her innocent children. You can admit, finally, that the homeschooling was a sham and a failure. That holding back the kids from further education was cruel and narrow-minded. The blanket training and use of a rod for punishment was a mistake. The buddy-system and onerous responsibilities put on the older girls was not unlike slavery. You've been wrong and misguided since the day you hooked up with Gothard, himself a sinful molester, so it's time to beg for forgiveness from your children and start over again. 
• If the survivors of Josh's crimes choose not to forgive, then so be it. Let them go on to live their own lives, and WITH the money they've certainly earned for a decade of this TLC charade. For the little ones too young to leave, you bet your ass people will be watching, so be careful. Let them go to a REAL school, or hire a real homeschooling teacher, one that won't just shovel those worthless ATI workbooks onto the SOTDRT and hope they can read by the time they're ten. I want to see history, literature, science, art, not freaking BANKRUPTCY. 
• If they're all just "over it", let Jill and Derrick, Jessa and Ben, and any of the other kids that want out just GO. I know it would be hard, but plenty of us have left home/escaped and turned out just fine ! JB and Michelle have ABSOLUTELY no control over their adult kids, you know ! They can pack up and leave at any time, free housing be damned ! JB CANNOT hold them hostage. Arkansas isn't New York City - you can find rentals at ver reasonable rates, so if they choose to go then God Speed. And, I'm POSITIVE there would be more than ample backup to help them make new lives - the former-Gothards, former-Fundies, and hell - even people like ME would contribute to them starting a new life. Just lemme get me checkbook...

 

If Megan Kelly has a brain and a conscience she'll not be lobbing softballs. It would be a HUGE slap in the face of Josh's survivors of abuse, and contribute even more to Fox's reputation of being misogynistic, Fundie-friendly apologists. Though I sincerely doubt it would happen, there's certainly an analogy to be brought up between JB and any other number of cult leaders, none of which ended well. 

 

If JB and Michelle pull the "typical" Duggar bullshit, then they deserve whatever comes their way. She can crazy/breathy/squeaky talk until the cows come home, they can nod-nod, wink-wink about still trying for blessing #20, and then watch all of their "flowers" leave for another garden. 

Edited May 30, 2015 by bigskygirl
Comment about the Senior Fox teaching the Junior Fox how to get in the hen house is pushing the envelope

[Maharincess]

So he was either really really good at it, or really really bad.

That was from one of my favorite Roseanne episodes! I love you for quoting my favorite show!

[Churchhoney]

I have trouble seeing her as a fan. I don't mean she would hate them. I just figure that for her personally there's nothing to see there -- once you eliminate the sexual abuse of several of the Duggar children. 

 

Yeah, that seems likely.

[GEML]

If at least some of the daughters are on the interview using words like "forgive" and "shocked that people are so upset" and "we ask for privacy for what was a very difficult time in our lives" it's going to be difficult to ask her hard hitting questions without people accusing her of revictimizing them.

And is there a reason the words incest or felony should come up? Is that what it would take to make an interview "honest"?

And no, I don't watch Fox. (I don't watch any TV politics. As a die hard political junkie, TV coverage is too slow.)

[Seashell Lover]

 hope this will be OnDemand as I will not be able to watch it live.

[Sew Sumi]

SomePity1066: *slow clap*

 

Sadly, I bet that Megan Kelly is the only journalist who would agree with what has become a rider of ridiculous proportions. I see nothing but softballs and tons of Gothard-speak. I imagine they'll also shame people who don't believe that Jesus washed Smuggar clean of sin. 

 

Will they mention Journey to the Heart, that female-shaming place, by name, when talking about the girls' "counseling?" I can't wait to hear their explanations about that place. I will probably be kept waiting, as they whitewash every aspect of this mess. 

 

Ask them about that house in Mary's name. I dare them. 

 

I believe the interview is only JB and Mechelle. If they put the girls on camera, my rage will know no bounds. 

Edited May 30, 2015 by Sew Sumi

[woodscommaelle]

I don't think its been asked yet.  But will the Duggars be paid for their appearance on Fox? 

[JoanArc]

 

And is there a reason the words incest or felony should come up? Is that what it would take to make an interview "honest"?

Yes. They've talked around things for ten years. Enough's enough.

[lottiedottie]

I have a feeling that this interview will go the way we think--it will be a bunch of bullshit, adoring staring, weak explanations etc. And I think the public who tunes in (let's face it, this show will draw ratings because people are probably very curious to know what these two assclowns are going to say) will be a bit outraged at the Duggars.

 

The Duggars no doubt said yes to Fox because they view it as a "safe" environment. I sure hope Kelly at the very least ASKS the questions that should be asked. Doesn't mean we'll get answers but I would love to see Boob and Mechelle squirm.

[Patricia07]

SomePity1066:

 

Bravo!!

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

I don't think its been asked yet. But will the Duggars be paid for their appearance on Fox?

Usually with news/journalist interviews, the interviewees aren't paid for the interview. They are, however, usually paid for "licensing rights" to any pictures they give the network/show that the show flashes on the screen during the interview. I know this was a big issue with Casey Anthony's parents and doing interviews. Networks and shows were able to say "we do not/did not pay for an interview" and look they had some journalistic integrity, when in reality they did pay something like $200k for pictures of Caylee that the Anthony family provided them with and were briefly shown during the interview. My understanding from reading a lot about it is that this is a common practice and a way to pay for interviews while still technically allowing both the media outlet & the interviewee to say they weren't paid for the interview.

My guess is that technically Jim Bob & Michelle won't be paid "for the interview" & Fox will be able to say "we don't pay for interviews" but that the Duggars will make some money off of "licensing rights" of pictures that they will flash across the screen during the interview or to promote the interview.

Edited June 1, 2015 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[Sew Sumi]

I don't think its been asked yet.  But will the Duggars be paid for their appearance on Fox? 

I don't think Fox pays for interviews, but I could be wrong. At this point, I think Boob goes to the safest outlet with the biggest potential audience (why CBN is out of the running here) to "repair" the family image. That they're not getting paid shows just how desperate they are at the moment, clinging to any shred of hope that the gravy train can be saved. THIS is the stuff their PR person does, not crisis management. 

 

So it begs the question: Would a real crisis manager recommended this move so soon? I think it's a bit early to start the Redemption Tour, but that's MHO. 

 

eta: MyPeopleAreNordic! Epic username and avatar! And what a horrible ending for Betty. :(

[Cherrio]

Yes. They've talked around things for ten years. Enough's enough.

This has to be posted again.     What should be discussed? Their buzz words and how they pray and all was forgiven?

[Bella]

We're now asking that, going forward, posters not call Fox News "Faux News" or CNN the "Communist News Network." We will be editing or hiding such posts from this point on.

 

Thanks!

[GEML]

I'd be surprised if they were getting paid for this one. Right now they need the media more than the media needs them (the media can re churn this story endlessly for free) and unless they plan to do something really shocking in the interview (which I don't think Michelle and Jim Bob could do alone - I think they would need one of the girls or Josh) the networks have no reason to pay.

[Sew Sumi]

I don't know if anyone would pay Josh at this point, but the victims could possibly cash in. IF that's the way they want to play this. If the show is canceled, it wouldn't surprise me to see one of them come out for a paycheck. 

[BitterApple]

JimBob is a horrible off-the-cuff speaker. It's no wonder he couldn't make it in politics and no wonder why the Megyn Kelly interview will be a pre-taped segment. None of the Duggars, with the exception of maybe Michelle, are capable of being fast on their feet.

[Satchels of gold]

Wow, these people just don't get it, do they? I am looking forward to hear how a 5 year old processed this trauma and came to a place of forgiveness, that should be interesting TV . While we are on the subject of forgiveness. I hope they threw themselves on the mercy of their children and begged forgiveness for being such shitty parents and not protecting them. I wonder if they REALLY understand that people are just as angry, or more so ,with them as they are with Josh. How do two people like this find each other?!? I know they preach humility but these are two people with massive egos. They think if we all just hear their side of the story we will all understand.

[Ivy26]

Honestly though, why would the Duggars pick Megyn Kelly? She's an intelligent woman, and Jim Bob has a problem with smart women. 

 

I'll lay Vegas odds, it'll start softball, but once he opens his mouth and starts condescending to Ms. Kelly, things will go downhill fast.  We know how he talks to women and the girls, and chances are, it'll get weird