S05.E09: Live And Learn

[zoeysmom]

If anyone cares to take a look here are some photos of the NBC/Universal Golden Globes AFTER party.  Harry and Lisa attended the HBO party.  Not trying to be mean but Kathy Hilton looks rather puffy.  http://www.realitytea.com/2015/01/13/lisa-vanderpump-says-brandi-glanvilles-behavior-no-joke-photos-rhobh-stars-golden-globes/#/slide/1

 

Note-Brandi is with  JR. 

 

Oh the story is about Lisa not appreciating Brandi's antics.

[Giselle]

Oh and re Max... When they flashed back to the guitar scene Lisa, instead of displaying affection and encouragement tells everyone his first words were "I can't". What a bitch. No wonder he is the way he is. Back stabber. Ouch. Lisa is a friend to no one except her animals.

Kyle following the police dept on Twitter made me laugh, that was cute.

I have to go study Brandis upper lip some more. Makes her scenes tolerable.

 

Lisa and Max reminds me of Lori and her son from RHOOC. Why would you do that to your child on national TV? Why?

[imjagain]

I just loved Brandi's lie, "I have to watch the show, to see if my kids are on it." Everything that comes out of her mouth is a lie or a huge exaggeration.

Edited January 14, 2015 by imjagain

[Rahul]

Brandi saying LeeAnn was a country singer.....and her bleeped out pronunciation of that....is just another reminder of how trashy she is. Wonder if her sons will see that and start saying that around LeeAnn, not knowing any better?

 

Hmm, I dunno. I normally find Brandi crude and vile, but surprisingly I didn't mind that jab at LeAnn.  I thought it was somewhat clever and it elicited half a chuckle from me. That said, I still want Brandi off the show.

[chlban]

Kim watching the Eddie and LeeAnn show at Brandi's was weird. She seemed really out of place there. What does she have in common at all with Brandi and her friends?

 

If Bella's apartment was a 2 bedroom, the rent would be upward of $5,000 a month in NYC. Peanuts when Mohammad Hadid is your dad. 

Um, why were they watching the TV show from the Bed? Brandi buys all that botox, drives a range rover and doesn't have a TV in her living room or family room? Or is she just so used to taking her "guests" there its habit? 

 

That's it.  All I got last night......YAWN.

Edited January 14, 2015 by chlban

[motorcitymom65]

I have no issues with the emotions of the gals as their kids go away to college. To me this rings true and is part of their reality, which is the point. I think the problem is that we have seen it too much. With Yo and Kim last year, and with Ramona on the NY show.  It just gets tedious after a while. I thought the scenes with Kyle and her family seemed genuine, but there was just too much of it. In her blog Kyle said that the girls wanted to say goodbye to each other off camera, as they were very emotional. Mauricio made me cry as only scenes between a father and daughter ever can. At first I thought sending her away in a car seemed strange, but then I realized they probably didn't want the world to see where she lives. I wonder if the scenes we saw this year and last of Yo's girls were actually shots of the buildings where they live? Seems like a reckless thing to do, but what do I know. 

 

I enjoyed Eileen with the boys over dinner. It seemed like a real family dinner and real dinner conversation. I like that she talks about the challenges of blending a family and doesn't pretend that everything was always easy. So far I am really liking her vibe.  

 

I can completely empathize with Lisa and Ken in that Max seems to have no motivation to succeed.  Didn't he say something when on the phone about just being content to have them finance his life? It would be hard for two people who are as driven and successful and K&L to handle. What I could not believe was the comparison between Pandora and Max.  I loved the term someone coined above: the Holy genetic Trinity. My first thought was to wonder if Lisa or Ken had ever actually said something like this out loud to him.  Since it slipped so easily from her lips on camera, my guess would be a "yes". It is just unforgivable IMO. When I first read years ago that K&L had moved across the pond to California because Pandora was going to college there, I thought it was unbearably sweet. She said something about not being able to imagine not seeing her every day if she wanted (maybe it was every week).  Then I later realized that such accommodations were not made for Max when he went away to school.  Sure, their situations and circumstances were probably different, but it must be strange to know that your presence in your parents daily life is not so much a necessity. That folks aren't going to move their entire lives thousands of miles away for you, but they would for the other kid.

 

Funny how Kim, Kyle and Yo have taken a lot of heat for the fact that they seem to have a hard time letting go of their kids. It seems as though they did end up letting them go, even if there was a lot of emotion involved. None of them moved to Arizona or NY. Lisa is the only one who did that. Talk about co-dependent parenting. 

[zoeysmom]

So if Brandi is so close to her children would it not have been easier to just ask them if they were filmed for Dad and LeAnn's show?  Since it is the producers and legal who insist  on signed releases from both parents, something Brandi is well aware of, I think Brandi just wanted to see Eddie.   At the time Brandi was claiming they were hiring actors to play the children (don't know if they did) and they hired an actresses to play LeAnn's BFF, who was secretly a BFF of Brandi's in real life and reported to Brandi daily.

 

As to her $1,000.00 a month in child support.  Why should Brandi get a dime?  She has the children 50% of the time (sometimes less) so why is it necessary for her to receive any money from Eddie?  So if she has the kids 15 days a month she is claiming it costs $266.00 a day when she has them to feed them?  Brandi spent a good deal of time and energy trying to get the world to boycott Eddie and LeAnn and now she claims she wants them to work? 

[cooksdelight]

As to her $1,000.00 a month in child support. Why should Brandi get a dime? She has the children 50% of the time (sometimes less) so why is it necessary for her to receive any money from Eddie? So if she has the kids 15 days a month she is claiming it costs $266.00 a day when she has them to feed them? Brandi spent a good deal of time and energy trying to get the world to boycott Eddie and LeAnn and now she claims she wants them to work?

I don't understand her divorce at all. The attorney told her Eddie wanted this much child support...and alimony....and she's getting child support. I've never heard of such a thing. In that, why not just split the difference in the monies and one person gets a check. Or not. Is all that check-swapping necessary?

[ghoulina]

Um, why were they watching the TV show from the Bed? Brandi buys all that botox, drives a range rover and doesn't have a TV in her living room or family room? Or is she just so used to taking her "guests" there its habit?

 

I've noticed A LOT of women on these shows hanging out in each other's beds. Like it proves the level of your friendship or something. It's weird. 

[heebiejeebie]

RE: Bella's apt.  And Gigi's.  NYC is not that big for women who are doing.  Well whatever it is that they are doing.  I'm wondering how much we are seeing is what is actually happening. 
 

I'm kind of surprised neither Mo or Yo have their own place in NYC already.  And if neither do, it would make sense to buy a nice unit bit enough either could use when in town and let the daughters live there.  The idea that at their age and transitional income aspect plus whatever school line they try to sell via the show, they each need their own place that neither is really paying for seems odd.  No matter how money Mohamed has (versus what he wants us all to believe he has -- two rather different things but sell a caviar and champagne image and viewers will gobble it up, there are still people in shock that Nene is not rich, Bethanny Frankel gets a much smaller check from Seagrams who makes damn sure the woman is not commercially associated with the Skinny Girl beverage line and Theresa Giudice has gone to jail).

 

I'm wondering whose name is on the deed/lease. 

 

But it does makes for a nice storyline.  Plus I had to laugh at all the people sending out tweets twitters and twats with pics saying oh crap she lives in my building.

[runforcover]

Oy. Yolanda is the worst.  She is so obsessed with controlling public, not simply audience, perception.  Every gesture is an apology or an explanation.  And if she isn't doing those two things, she's congratulating herself.  For what?  For living only somewhat obnoxiously with every resource in the world?

 

"I never had people around to do things.  I like to get in there." (sic)

Which is just some passive-aggressive way to devalue the work she's currently shelling out for

hence, "If you want something done right, you've got to do it yourself!" (GROSS)  

 

I mean what psychopath has a transparent fridge?  She is unbearable.

Those kids were taught how to placate mom, which is just fine because mom only really cares about appearances.

 

Did Brandi do her lips?  I guess that's a stupid question.  They look terrible.  I always thought Brandi was quite beautiful. Never has "perfection" looked so failed-suburban.  

 

slept through Kyle

I don't understand her divorce at all. The attorney told her Eddie wanted this much child support...and alimony....and she's getting child support. I've never heard of such a thing. In that, why not just split the difference in the monies and one person gets a check. Or not. Is all that check-swapping necessary?

No, probably not.  Brandi's storyline seems particularly forced this year.  If they are both talking about each other on their respective shows I am assuming some arrangement has been made.

[bosawks]

With regards to Brandi's lips I think she is just ridiculous enough to jack up her own lips to compete with Lisa R.

[runforcover]

Also, can we talk about Brandi's friend from Sober House?  Jen!

 

What is her deal?  

[JAYJAY1979]

Empty Nesters R Us should have been the title of this episode!  With that said, I enjoyed the drama-free vibe since next week looks like we are back to that catty behavior again :(

 

http://www.chicagonow.com/confessions-coffeeholic/2015/01/real-housewives-of-beverly-hills-empty-nesters/

[izabella]

And when she was putting up all the little squares that people painted for Bella (at least that brought in some color, and I genuinely do love the idea of those collages), didn't one of them say "POO" in big letters?  Were that in my apartment, I'm afraid that particular square would meet with an accident and have to be replaced by something that doesn't say "POO".

 

Bella could turn the square upside down so it reads "OOd."  I know that doesn't mean anything, but it would be more interesting to contemplate its possible meaning than to see POO on the wall every day.

 

While I am usually the last person to defend Brandi, I have to say I don't blame her for making sure her boys don't show up on Eddie and LeAnn's reality show since he's the one who refused to let them appear on Brandi's reality show.  It would be very hypocritical if he did let them appear.  In that situation, I would be doing the same thing as Brandi.

 

The thing is, the kids cannot appear unless both parents sign the release form.  And Brandi is well aware that we know this because Eddie refused to sign the release so the boys can't appear on RHoBH.  So she was totally bs'ing about needing to watch the show to see if the boys were on because she knows damned well she didn't sign the release form.  Phony liar.

Edited January 14, 2015 by izabella

[mwell345]

 

Brandi says Eddie's name how many times per episode, yet she bitches when they mention her during their reality show?  She's done so over how many seasons?  And I'd like to know what groceries she buys that cost $1k per week (she made a comment that Eddie's 1k in support would only cover like a week of groceries).  Oh wait, I'm guessing she drinks most of her meals.  Never mind.    What does she do with the money she makes from this show and her books?

 

That whole scene of her watching their show was weird.   She seriously cannot seem to let go.  She doesn't need to watch it to see if her kids are on - Someone else could do that and tape it and if the kids are on it, give her the tape.  

 

I was grateful for Eileen and Lisa Rinna because they were the bright spots in what was a pretty drab episode.  How many kids are we going to send off to college and watch the water works that ensue?  And Yolanda, seriously, a decorator? For a college apartment? 

 

I could watch Eileen and Rinna  (and Lisa V) for an entire episode.  The rest, blah!

 

Up next week:  It's Portia's first day of school and Kyle has a meltdown.  : )

[ryebread]

Um, why were they watching the TV show from the Bed? Brandi buys all that botox, drives a range rover and doesn't have a TV in her living room or family room? Or is she just so used to taking her "guests" there its habit? .

 

Life is one big pajama party for Brandi.  If she didn't have to work I doubt she'd ever get out of bed.

 

That said, I would totally watch my ex-husband (if I had one) on a reality show.  Hell, I'd watch an ex-boyfriend. 

[DollyMamaB]

If it wasn't for Eddie and LeAnn, Brandi wouldn't have a career.  Not that I'm fans of E&L (NOT AT ALL).  But I'm so sick and tired of hearing Brandi bitch and moan about it.  So annoying.

 

I have a ton of respect for how Ken and Lisa have raised their children.  It would be so easy for them to give their children everything, but they have made them work.  Lisa's response to Max not having electricity for 3 months - perfect. 

[runforcover]

If it wasn't for Eddie and LeAnn, Brandi wouldn't have a career.  Not that I'm fans of E&L (NOT AT ALL).  But I'm so sick and tired of hearing Brandi bitch and moan about it.  So annoying.

 

I have a ton of respect for how Ken and Lisa have raised their children.  It would be so easy for them to give their children everything, but they have made them work.  Lisa's response to Max not having electricity for 3 months - perfect. 

As much as I like Lisa, I have a hard time believing that a) Max is ACTUALLY going to have to live without electricity and b) any of these kids really have to work.  I think Lisa enjoys "the american vs brit work ethic" false dichotomy and plays to all variations of it any chance she gets.  

Edited January 14, 2015 by runforcover

[phoenix780]

The thing is, the kids cannot appear unless both parents sign the release form.  And Brandi is well aware that we know this because Eddie refused to sign the release so the boys can't appear on RHoBH.  So she was totally bs'ing about needing to watch the show to see if the boys were on because she knows damned well she didn't sign the release form.  Phony liar.

 

But wasn't the point to verify whether the release form was followed?  Maybe there's an outside chance VH-1 and the producers of that show would blow it off, so Brandi had to be vigilant...

 

The scene made me want to watch People's Couch, which I never do, so that I could watch a show about people watching a show in which people are watching a show.  That would be fun.

[st.louielouie]

I actually thought this week's episode was good.  I could relate to Kyle a lot.  And if her daughter wasn't on a food plan then I don't think $1800 a month is all that much - after our son's freshman year and he lived in an apartment, we gave him $1000 a month to live on and we don't have a lot of money.  And he went to school in middle Indiana - so I didn't think they were overboard.  It is hard to figure out how much money to give them - we started out with $1200 but our son said he didn't need that much - it probably is the same way with them - and that didn't count rent and utilities that was just living expenses. 

 

I couldn't relate to Yolanda and her daughter though - it just seemed too forced or something....maybe because I just don't like her that much.

 

I could also relate to Eileen's family - senior year at college you sort of wave to them when they leave and try to get their dad to move them.  I liked how everyone thanked her for dinner and she expected them to clean up.

 

I just like Lisa Rinna ~ I just do.

 

I can take or leave Lisa V.  - felt poorly for Max - it isn't fun when your mom clearly prefers one child over another.

 

Brandi who? Creepy that they wouldn't watch tv in a family/living room - I wouldn't want a bunch of people clammering all over my bed. Other than that, I will admit I fast-forwarded through her scene.

[DollyMamaB]

As much as I like Lisa, I have a hard time believing that a) Max is ACTUALLY going to have to live without electricity and b) any of these kids really have to work.  I think Lisa enjoys "the american vs brit work ethic" false dichotomy and plays to all variations of it any chance she gets.  

I'm not british and I've done this.  Kid thinks living on their own is the bomb and mom and dad don't know anything, fast forward to "I can't pay my rent".  Well, not my problem.  Best thing I ever did for her.  She now super responsible and self sufficient. 

[erikdepressant]

And what other family is met by a university rep when visiting the school? Ambassador yes, rep no.

The way I viewed that was: the rep was meeting Bravo, not the family.  I don't know if producers have to get permission to film on a college campus or not.  Either way, the college had to have known a TV show was going to be shooting a segment about a family sending a kid there.  I can't imagine any business or institution not taking advantage of the publicity and rolling out a red carpet.

[Duke2801]

I have no issues with the emotions of the gals as their kids go away to college. To me this rings true and is part of their reality, which is the point. I think the problem is that we have seen it too much. With Yo and Kim last year, and with Ramona on the NY show.  It just gets tedious after a while.

 

 

THIS!  Yes, much of this.  I can totalllllly sympathize and empathize with the melancholy of saying goodbye to your family for an extended period of time, for the first time.  I've been there!  But yes, there is only so much that we, as viewers, can take before we start rolling our eyes, checking our phones, or flipping channels.  Or maybe that's just what I did.  In any case, this episode's "pacing" bored me. 

 

As another poster mentioned, it would have been much more tolerable if they had spaced the family scenes in-between scenes of some of the ladies together. 

[larapu2000]

In comparison to other Housewives shows, I don't mind scenes sending kids off to college, because they are GOING to college, unlike the horrid children of Orange County, Jersey, etc.  

 

There were some comments about the jewelry at Lisa Rinna's house.  It's Stella and Dot, which is a home based sales company, but shockingly, a lot of celebrities wear their stuff, I think because it's slightly nicer than trendy costume jewelry.  My sister used to be a regional training manager for them, and they were always sending out mentions in magazines and celebrities wearing their stuff.  It's certainly not Beverly Hills level jewelry, as Rinna even mentioned, and I'm not gonna lie, it's great to hear people say it looks cheap, because my sister had to work with some seriously fake, phony, horrible human beings there.  

[copacabana]

I just rewatched "Mansfield Park" for the nth time.  The way Lisa talks about Max -- and to him actually -- reminds me of the Fanny Price situation.  Lisa isn't nearly as nasty as Mrs. Norris, but she gives off the same kind of vibe.  As though Max was lucky beyond all measure to be adopted by them and needs to be grateful for their selection 24/7 while they treat him as a second-class child.  Lacking in ambition indeed.  Looks as though he's simply decided he doesn't want to apply himself to college, preferring to grow out a really ugly mustache, hook up with an inappropriate girlfriend, make use of her car, and pretend that he wants to learn the restaurant business.  The restaurant bz from the ground up smacks of an attempt to buy time with his parents.  

 

If Ken and Lisa are aware of this as a strategy, get the kid off camera and say, hey, no, ain't going to fly.  You won't be using our restaurants to run and hide from life beyond high school. Want to learn the bz?  Try working at another establishment -- we'll even help you get started, but not here. And, seriously, I can think of few environments worse for young people with addiction issues than the hospitality industry.  

 

I'm hoping that much of this has been ginned up for the cameras.  Lisa can only use her restaurants as backdrop so much given her other show, clearly doesn't want to hang out with Brandi and probably Kyle much anymore, never really cared for Kim, and is left with Eileen and Lisa R.  So come up with some Max-related story lines this season.  "Okay, Max, in this scene I'm going to act like a parent who lives in another century and I will be saying some really crappy things about you in my talking heads ... Just play along because you know how much Mummy loves you. "

 

Re U of A, my understanding is that Alexia is going to school at University of Arizona at Tucson which is a wonderful place to study and live.  I try not to get hooked on the BEST colleges and universities stuff -- There are so many great colleges in this country that never make that little list, which sets in snobbish stone false perceptions and expectations.  The children on this show are beyond fortunate to have these kinds of opportunities handed to them.  Kyle's daughters appear to enjoy schoolwork so kudos to her on that score. 

 

Yolanda is definitely someone who would have benefited from continuing with her education.  Off to see if the word POO has some special meaning in Dutch.

[sistermagpie]

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I enjoyed it.  I'm an only child and always craved sisters, and I am so jealous of how close Kyle's girls seem.  Farrah has her own life, yet took the time to fly in to see Alexia off - and then to watch Portia run into her arms.  Then Alexia waking up Portia and kissing all over her.  Sophia is fourteen (?) and would have possibly preferred to spend the last days of summer, yet was there seemingly without complaint.  Imagine how the Rinna girls might have complained.  And then to hear no comments about chub chubs or weirdos who attend church, or insults of the locals.  And topped off with a double rainbow.

 

 

I like them all interacting too. I don't get the impression at all that Kyle really guilts them or anything with her dramatics. They seem to get that she just is weepy. I thought she even had a few times when she was funny, like when she said, "Yeah, I know I should be excited about them spreading their wings but, you know...fuck that!" or when she announced she was pregnant. They all seem to at base get the message that they should go out and do their own thing.

 

In fact, the more I think about it, it's interesting how so many of the other women's families seem to immediately set out some unhealthy vibe: like Lisa and Ken coming across as favoring Pandi, Yolanda coming across as favoring Gigi, Kim seeming too dependent on her kids and Lisa's daughters being obnoxious while Kyle, who comes from one of the unhealthiest families of the bunch (Mom playing the daughters off against each other and seeming to still do that from beyond the grave) seems to have a family where people genuinely like each other and are proud of each other. It was nice of the daughters to just assure her (without seeming too anxious about it) that Alexia would be fine, and then when Mauricio explained that that wasn't the problem, the problem was him and Kyle missing her, that she would visit a lot. Maybe the show doesn't show the real dynamics of any of these people, but it's funny how it comes across.

 

I think Lisa enjoys "the american vs brit work ethic" false dichotomy and plays to all variations of it any chance she gets.

 

 

Is there a American vs. Brit worth ethic? That says the Brit work ethic is better? I would believe she was playing up rich kid vs. self-made success like she and Ken.

[runforcover]

I'm not british and I've done this.  Kid thinks living on their own is the bomb and mom and dad don't know anything, fast forward to "I can't pay my rent".  Well, not my problem.  Best thing I ever did for her.  She now super responsible and self sufficient. 

dichotomy is false.  It's a fantasy.  Apologies for any confusion.

Edited January 14, 2015 by runforcover

[motorcitymom65]

The deal with Max suddenly being part of the show is interesting to me. Lisa has always said he wants no part of it. Now he is on and not in a positive manner. 

 

I wonder if we are seeing a setup for him to be a part of the VPR show about SUR. Maybe about the dynamics of him working his way up and starting to take on more responsibility at the restaurant? How that might be viewed by the rest of the staff? I think that might be interesting. 

[runforcover]

 

Is there a American vs. Brit worth ethic? That says the Brit work ethic is better? I would believe she was playing up rich kid vs. self-made success like she and Ken.

No there isn't an actual American vs Brit work ethic.  But there is a BS construct of one.  Sorry for lack of clarity.  I think you are right.  it is old vs new money, which also maps nicely onto same construct.  

The deal with Max suddenly being part of the show is interesting to me. Lisa has always said he wants no part of it. Now he is on and not in a positive manner. 

 

I wonder if we are seeing a setup for him to be a part of the VPR show about SUR. Maybe about the dynamics of him working his way up and starting to take on more responsibility at the restaurant? How that might be viewed by the rest of the staff? I think that might be interesting. 

Totally.  This whole Max thing is the opposite of Max going out on his own.  He's just being better integrated into the show.  Whether VR or RH, I am kind of into it.  I think he could provide some interesting material, manipulated or less so. 

Edited January 14, 2015 by runforcover

[DollyMamaB]

dichotomy is false.  It's a fantasy.  Apologies for any confusion.

 

No problem....I think a lot gets lost in translation via message boards. 

[Primetimer]

The Housewives spend an episode saying adieu to their children (and viewers, probably).

Read the story

[panthergirl13]

Worst episode ever, but I do want Yo to be my mother. Bella's DUI was clearly a cry for "help me find a great NYC apartment and get it all furnished and set up for me!"

[DollyMamaB]

I like that Lisa R. can laugh at herself.

Edited January 14, 2015 by DollyMamaB

[TattleTeeny]

OH MY GOD! I am usually pretty unflappable when it comes to the antics of these Housewives (even Jersey) but I was losing my marbles about the apartments and the furniture and everything! Not that I wouldn't (a) do it for my kids (of which I neither have nor want) if I could, or (b) have accepted it from my parents, but holy hell! I just can't even get my brain around it! I will not go into a rant about "in my day" or overindulging or whatever, but I'll just allude to milk crates and "found items" (i.e., garbage) as furniture and 40 square feet to share with another human...

 

Yes! I have noticed for weeks that they actually don't look bad at all. After all these years of hearing about how she "ruined" her face by getting huge lips, I think she looks fine.

 

I think they're pretty darn hideous. However, the pale/nude gloss works wonders in making them appear to be full lips as opposed to wax lips. That color suits her.

Edited January 14, 2015 by TattleTeeny

[Persnickety1]

Wow, Brandi's BFF Jennifer looks AWFUL! And didn't she used to spell it "Gennifer" or some weird Hollywood spelling?  Anyway, she needs to stop accompanying Brandi to the cosmetic surgery counter at their local Walmart, because both of these woman have completely distorted their faces.

 

I don't love the flokati rugs Yo was laying down in Bella's apartment.  Those things are dust magnets.  I used to work in a store that sold those and they got filthy real fast just sitting on shelves. They weren't cheap either.  But I suppose people with Hadid/Foster money treat them as I treat paper towels and just get new ones.

 

I have an adopted daughter and I would NEVER say out loud, never mind on TV, that I thought her different genes made her less like me in personality or drive or intelligence! My daughter was born in Korea and my husband & I are 2 of the whitest pale Irish Americans I know. We don't even compare genetics when it comes to obvious differences in our appearances.

 

What network is Eddie & Leanne's show on?  I never heard of it.  Not a fan of either of them but I'd watch it just to see their side of the story.  I love how Brandi started off last night saying she hopes one day they can all sit around the table at Thanksgiving as one happy family.  Then 10 minutes later she's still talking shit about them.

 

I am liking Lisa R more & more, but that jewelry was hideous.  I have seen similar junk at Burlington Coat Factory or T J Maxx - usually on the clearance racks.  Yeesh.  I'd write a check just to not have to look at it anymore.  My neck and wrists are itchy thinking about putting that on my skin.

 

There is a forum here on PTV for the show.  I can pretty much guarantee you it's far more entertaining than anything that horrific show had to offer.

 

http://forums.previously.tv/forum/1044-leann-eddie/

 

Happy reading!

Edited January 14, 2015 by Persnickety1

[poeticlicensed]

I will not go into a rant about "in my day" or overindulging or whatever, but I'll just allude to milk crates and "found items" (i.e., garbage) as furniture and 40 square feet to share with another human...

 

Just wait until Bella has her first party and that white rug has beer spilled on it and the leather sofa is full of cigarette burns.  

[walnutqueen]

I will not go into a rant about "in my day" or overindulging or whatever, but I'll just allude to milk crates and "found items" (i.e., garbage) as furniture and 40 square feet to share with another human...

 

TattleTeeny - I'd join you in that rant, but then we'd probably sound like half of The Four Yorkshiremen : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo

[sistermagpie]

dichotomy is false.  It's a fantasy.  Apologies for any confusion.

 

 

Oh, no. I didn't think you were saying it was real. I've just never even heard it as a false dichotomy. Protestant work ethic etc. is a US thing and working hard isn't anything I particular associate with a British stereotype. (Just to be clear--this is not to say that I associate being British with being lazy, of course! Just that that's not part of the stereotype national identity--I'd associate it far more with self-identity in the US than the UK).

 

Just wait until Bella has her first party and that white rug has beer spilled on it and the leather sofa is full of cigarette burns.

 

 

LOL! Yes, who gives a teenager a white rug? Especially given the state of Bella's car in that email.

[tvfanatic13]

My DVR cut off just as the previews were starting. Can someone fill me in?

[DollyMamaB]

My DVR cut off just as the previews were starting. Can someone fill me in?

Kim and Lisa Rinna are in the car together and Kim starts saying, "you don't know my life" or something like that.  Then they are all at some place and in Kyles side bar she says, "I've seen kim like this before" and then you see kim walking out of the restaurant with Brandi following her.  Kyle looks like she's going after Kim or trying to stop Brandi and Brandi shoves Kyle.

Edited January 14, 2015 by DollyMamaB

[ghoulina]

wonder if we are seeing a setup for him to be a part of the VPR show about SUR. Maybe about the dynamics of him working his way up and starting to take on more responsibility at the restaurant? How that might be viewed by the rest of the staff? I think that might be interesting.

 

That's quite possible. When he mentioned driving his girlfriend's car, or letting her drive HIS car (I can't recall), I could have sworn he called her "Stassi" and my heart almost dropped into my stomach. 

[DollyMamaB]

That's quite possible. When he mentioned driving his girlfriend's car, or letting her drive HIS car (I can't recall), I could have sworn he called her "Stassi" and my heart almost dropped into my stomach. 

 

Don't make me puke!  Thank Goddess he said her name was Allison (at least that's what my closed caption said).  

[walnutqueen]

Kim and Lisa Rinna are in the car together and Kim starts saying, "you don't know my life" or something like that.  Then they are all at some place and in Kyles side bar she says, "I've seen kim like this before" and then you see kim walking out of the restaurant with Brandi following her.  Kyle looks like she's going after Kim or trying to stop Brandi and Brandi shoves Kyle.

 

Ooh, and Kim is sitting at a table, cigar in hand, looking belligerent and particularly ... relapsed.  Can't wait to hear which prescribed medication she will claim to have mistaken for a water pill.  ;-)

[Misslindsey]

 

Also, can we talk about Brandi's friend from Sober House?  Jen!

Thank you for confirming that Jen was from Sober House and I think a season of Celeb Rehab. I thought that was her, but wasn't sure. 

 

I did not watch Eddie and LeAnn's show so I do not know how Brandi's name was mentioned, but I do think Brandi using "country singer" to call LeAnn a c*nt is different than mentioning Brandi as Eddie's ex or saying the kids are at Brandi's or something. I would hope that Brandi does not talk bad about Eddie and even LeAnn in front of the kids and vice versa. 

 

I still like Lisa Rinna and Eileen. They were bright spots in the show last night. 

Edited January 14, 2015 by Misslindsey

[runforcover]

Oh, no. I didn't think you were saying it was real. I've just never even heard it as a false dichotomy. Protestant work ethic etc. is a US thing and working hard isn't anything I particular associate with a British stereotype. (Just to be clear--this is not to say that I associate being British with being lazy, of course! Just that that's not part of the stereotype national identity--I'd associate it far more with self-identity in the US than the UK).

 

 

LOL! Yes, who gives a teenager a white rug? Especially given the state of Bella's car in that email.

Ah!  I just wrote out a whole 5000 sentences of clarification.  Serves me right :) Yeah, I shouldn't have used the term 'work-ethic." You are right, that's conventionally "American." Lisa, whatever the more accurate construct, does position herself as superior to HW frivolity.  Maybe I just lazily, and problematically, assumed it Amer / non-Amer.  Sorry about that.

Thank you for confirming that Jen was from Sober House and I think a season of Celeb Rehab. I thought that was her, but wasn't sure. 

 

The fact that I know any of this makes me want to take a shower.  The good news is that now we both know :)

Edited January 14, 2015 by runforcover

[copacabana]

Kim and wine tastings -- Options -- Remove yourself entirely from the situation and have a sense of humor about it.  Or ...  remain in the situation and stop making it ALL about you.  Enjoy the nice food, your fruit drink, and the company.  Discourage your sister Kyle from placing the spotlight on this issue of yours yet again.  WTH is the matter with these sisters?  Grow up, both of you!

 

It's not like Kim hasn't been hanging around with these woman for months while they knock back the drinks at every single function. I find Kim's wounded sparrow routine exhausting and irritating.  Plenty of folks in recovery know to either get the hell out or find a comfort and enjoyment level.  She's always got to be turning herself into the martyr and victim.  And Kyle rushing over to her to see if she's okay -- stop it!  

 

This is what meetings and sponsors are for, Kim.  

 

Kim is actually much more likely to have a relapse in the privacy of her own home or at one of their numerous parties than at a wine tasting.  That being said, asking a  person who is obviously a recovering alcoholic if she'd like to "just smell it" is beyond idiotic.  

[TattleTeeny]

LOL! Yes, who gives a teenager a white rug? Especially given the state of Bella's car in that email.

 

I shared a nice, big apartment with my sister and her BF for year, and BF, who was about 24 and had never had his own place before, went wild and bought white wall-to-wall for the rather large living room. At that point, I was 28 and had been an apartment-dweller for almost a decade--I was like, "WTF are you doing?" Not to mention, he was a blue-collar kind of guy who'd often come home with dirty boots!

Edited January 14, 2015 by TattleTeeny

[runforcover]

 

 

This is what meetings and sponsors are for, Kim.  

 

Kim is actually much more likely to have a relapse in the privacy of her own home or at one of their numerous parties than at a wine tasting.  That being said, asking a  person who is obviously a recovering alcoholic if she'd like to "just smell it" is beyond idiotic.  

Seriously.  Talk about a shitty recovery program.  I also have a hard time believing that after all of these years with Kim that Kyle hasn't been confronted on her omnipresent co-dependency, which would clear up a lot of her confused boundaries relative to kim (this includes the drama around her kids going to college).  I mean, if you think any of this isn't just generated for show. 

Edited January 14, 2015 by runforcover

[Satchels of gold]

The little white one looked like he wanted out to pee, very badly. He was doing that same little dance my small dog does when he wants to go out. Crating three small dogs together is cruel except when it's time for them to sleep. If they aren't allowed to have the run of the house during the day, they need to go. If one is a biter, you train it not to bite. I've got a cat that sometimes would get too close to the dog's bowl and he'd snap and growl. I broke him of that within two weeks of training. I also trained him to go into his crate at night by saying "It's time to go nite-nite." He knows what that word means.

Brandi is a pet's worst nightmare. Poor things.

I once read that when you yell at a dog for barking the dog thinks " oh good, now we are all barking".