Camera One March 7, 2015 Share March 7, 2015 Why is she announcing this now? Doesn't it take away the surprise shock in the season finale? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-900178
Danielg342 March 7, 2015 Share March 7, 2015 I think I'll miss Fish...her character was really turning around for me lately and I really wanted to see where it would go. I guess, though, in the Batman underworld, something like this is inevitable- with so many criminals jockeying for position, a few big names would fall. Guess this year it's Fish. Why is she announcing this now? Doesn't it take away the surprise shock in the season finale? To be honest, I prefer knowing now than in the finale...I hate when shows take away a character I loved at the last second, just to be "shocking". Personally it feels like a gut punch and renders all that time I invested in a character meaningless. At least if I can "prepare" for a departure I can appreciate the story much better. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-900275
Camera One March 7, 2015 Share March 7, 2015 (edited) I agree and I'm totally like that as well, but I was very surprised since it's not very common. Most dramatic series have a major death in its first season, often in the season finale, and some "surprise" character gets bumped off the cast. The interviews about their departure usually come after. I wonder if this was sanctioned by the show/FOX. Edited March 7, 2015 by Camera One 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-900324
Jlina March 7, 2015 Share March 7, 2015 (edited) Hmmm...I came here to check if anyone else wondered this about announcing now. Sounds like bad apples to me. Or just her ego running her mouth. I really doubt Gotham's producers wanted the suspense factor gone. Unprofessional on her part imo. What's really odd about JPS is that she came through a small tourist city right by me, outside of Houston about 9 years ago - Kemah - touring with a rock band trying to be a lead singer. And I mean, this bar was small potatoes. So I never realized her ego was so outsized until I saw her chew scenery here and read that she told Will not to "embarrass her, boy" with his new movie. http://www.mtv.com/news/1522697/jada-pinkett-smith-lives-out-her-axl-rose-dreams/ Edited March 7, 2015 by Jlina Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-900394
Danielg342 March 7, 2015 Share March 7, 2015 I agree and I'm totally like that as well, but I was very surprised since it's not very common. Most dramatic series have a major death in its first season, often in the season finale, and some "surprise" character gets bumped off the cast. The interviews about their departure usually come after. I wonder if this was sanctioned by the show/FOX. Maybe it's just me but I see it all the time- at least on network TV. Maybe on cable it's different. I'd have a feeling this is at least sanctioned by Fox, since this series has been meticulously planned so far and I imagine us anticipating Fish leaving the series is part of that plan. Perhaps the character dies or leaves setting something up for Season 2- maybe it's so that, in the finale, we see the culmination of the Rise of Penguin and his offing of Fish is what tells Falcone and Maroni they underestimated him all this time. I guess we'll see. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-900576
Camera One March 7, 2015 Share March 7, 2015 (edited) Maybe it's just me but I see it all the time- at least on network TV. They didn't give pre-interviews before deaths on "The Good Wife" or "Person of Interest" with major cast members being killed off. I was shocked and surprised by both, and the actors gave post-interviews the day after. On the first seasons of "Once Upon a Time", "Angel", "24", etc. , a main character was killed off, and again, it was a complete surprise to the audience, with interviews after. And then with shows like "Under the Dome", "Revolution", "Lost", "Heroes", , etc. with more regular deaths, again, it's always afterwards when the actor gets press and explains why they left, or how they felt when they saw they were written out. Edited March 7, 2015 by Camera One 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-901869
TimetoShine March 7, 2015 Share March 7, 2015 I don't care why she announced it now. I'm just glad she did and Fish is leaving. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-901895
Trini March 8, 2015 Share March 8, 2015 Oh well, I was really rooting for Fish to make to season 2, and maybe into the comics. And yep, the timing of this announcement seems sketchy to me. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-902613
Chaos Theory March 8, 2015 Share March 8, 2015 Jada Pinkett Smith Leaving Gotham https://tvline.com/2015/03/06/jada-pinkett-smith-leaving-gotham-season-2-fish/ I like Fish Mooney and Gotham for all its good points is severely lacking in strong female rolls. Fish is one of the few to appear regularly who aren't dating Jim that week. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-902698
caracas1914 March 8, 2015 Share March 8, 2015 (edited) I agree that GOTHAM needs more strong non romantic(with Jim) female characters , but Jada Picket Smith was simply hammy without being that interesting. Josh Charles was leaving "The Good Wife" but he didn't announce ahead of time his departure, (thus not giving away his surprise death) so my gut is JPS just ran off on the mouth without clearing it with anyone. Edited March 8, 2015 by caracas1914 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-903851
Iamsweetdee March 8, 2015 Share March 8, 2015 I believe the opposite. I think JPS not only had the blessing of Fox, but she did it at their request. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-903920
orza March 8, 2015 Share March 8, 2015 It could be that Jada has another project that will be announced soon before the Gotham season finale airs and they want to head off any online "But what about Fish?" hysteria. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-903938
Camera One March 8, 2015 Share March 8, 2015 That type of hysteria gets the show buzz, and that's one of the reasons why season finales have deaths. If they wanted to head that off, and generate anticipation, they would have announced it the week before the season finale, but that is months away. Even an announcement before the show's final run in April would have made more sense. As the articles said, FOX quietly issued a statement afterward which was vague and neither confirmed nor denied the departure. Marketing-wise, this whole announcements sounds like either an accident, unless the actress just wanted to put it out there she'll be free or to convince the producers to have a last-minute change of heart since the ending can still potentially be changed if fan response is strong enough. Anyway, it's all conjecture at this point, and many had already predicted early in the season that since she doesn't play a canon Batman character, her character would meet an untimely end. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-903949
orza March 8, 2015 Share March 8, 2015 This announcement comes hot on the heels of the ugly hysteria and racism accusations overwrought Sleepy Hollow fans are spewing all over the internet. No network wants that kind of negative buzz. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-904096
ratgirlagogo March 8, 2015 Share March 8, 2015 my gut is JPS just ran off on the mouth without clearing it with anyone. For all the reasons others have given above that's my guess too. I can't even think of a TV show that killed off a major character played by one of their most famous actors and announced it in advance. Especially for the season finale. For what it's worth I will miss her - I loved her high-style scenery chewing and thought she made a fantastic villain. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-904277
Raachel2008 March 8, 2015 Share March 8, 2015 I totally agree that Jada let it out without Fox's blessing. No way they would allow it. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-904503
Watermelon March 9, 2015 Share March 9, 2015 I don't understand how Jada saying she isn't coming back equates Fish dying in the finale and Jada spoiling the surprise. This show is based on a comic book, there are plenty of ways and reasons for Fish to not be in Season 2 without her being dead. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-906060
Perfect Xero March 9, 2015 Share March 9, 2015 (edited) After the guy whose head got stitched on to the body of a woman all bets are off, I'm thinking that Fish will get an entire Face/Off style full body switch surgery by the end of this season, so Fish will still be on the show but Jada won't. By saying it now they'll build up fan speculation that Fish will die, so it'll be a big surprise twist when Fish shows up with a new face/identity. Edited March 9, 2015 by Perfect Xero 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-906255
HoodlumSheep March 22, 2015 Share March 22, 2015 The only way I want Fish to be offed is by Oswald. I want the Penguin to have his Fish dinner. I wish they would have kept her departure a secret though. I knew she would eventually get offed due to the fact that pretty much everyone else has to make it into the batman age alive, but still... I wish Jada all the best. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-954131
darkestboy March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 Fish being killed off by Oswald is the only way the show can go but it does make me think that her dynamic with him should've been more focused on at times. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-972873
Trini May 5, 2015 Share May 5, 2015 Finale Post-mortem -- in a slideshow format. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1109188
MarkHB May 6, 2015 Share May 6, 2015 Finale Post-mortem -- in a slideshow format. Note that that includes commentary by Heller, et al... and it gives some interesting background. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1114223
Artsda May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 Gotham Promotes Morena Baccarin to Series Regular in Season 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1136574
thuganomics85 May 12, 2015 Share May 12, 2015 No surprise, but I'm glad to hear it. Plus, there should be room, since Jada is leaving, Falcone/John Doman too perhaps, and I have to think Montoya/Allen fell off a cliff somewhere. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1138187
Chaos Theory May 13, 2015 Share May 13, 2015 (edited) No surprise, but I'm glad to hear it. Plus, there should be room, since Jada is leaving, Falcone/John Doman too perhaps, and I have to think Montoya/Allen fell off a cliff somewhere. There maaaaaay be more of a storyline for Montoya next season now that Babs had her little breakdown (which I fully support and condone and want to see more of by the way) and now that the mob story is all but over Jim's attention will probably be on the dirty cops and politicians so he could use a few good....ahem men. Edited May 13, 2015 by Chaos Theory Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1143186
formerlyfreedom May 29, 2015 Share May 29, 2015 Nicholas D'Agosto Promoted to Series Regular. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1193318
tv echo May 30, 2015 Share May 30, 2015 Gotham Season 2: Chris Chalk Upped to Series Regular, as Lucius FoxBy Matt Webb Mitovich / May 29 2015, 11:59 AM PDThttp://tvline.com/2015/05/29/gotham-season-2-chris-chalk-series-regular-lucius-fox/ 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1196778
MaryMitch June 2, 2015 Share June 2, 2015 I hope Butch (Drew Powell) is returning. I have a weird affection for Drew in whatever he does. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1206031
darkestboy June 17, 2015 Share June 17, 2015 Details on the first season on DVD and Blu Ray. It's released September 8th ..... http://comicbook.com/2015/06/04/gotham-the-complete-first-season-blu-ray-and-dvd-release-dates-a/ Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1249849
thuganomics85 June 25, 2015 Share June 25, 2015 (edited) Since's he apparently on a quest to appear in everything, James Frain will be joining season two as a regular. He will be playing Theo Galavan, brother to Tabitha Galavan, who becomes the Tigress in the comic books. Edited June 25, 2015 by thuganomics85 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1271193
HoodlumSheep June 25, 2015 Share June 25, 2015 Ooohh! I like James Frain. he's a good actor. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1273001
Delphi June 26, 2015 Share June 26, 2015 Details on the first season on DVD and Blu Ray. It's released September 8th ..... http://comicbook.com/2015/06/04/gotham-the-complete-first-season-blu-ray-and-dvd-release-dates-a/ I was hoping for some commentaries, and some features about the sets and costumes. Is sixty dollars average price for DVDs now? That's a good chunk of money... Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1274715
tv echo July 2, 2015 Share July 2, 2015 (edited) Ben McKenzie @ben_mckenzie Jun 30#WBSDCC @TVGuideMagazine @Comic_Con #GothamS2Countdown https://twitter.com/ben_mckenzie/status/615933285622018048 WBTV TV Guide Magazine Special Issue Covers 06-30-15 | arrow, gotham, supergirl, the flash, tv guide magazine http://comiccon.thewb.com/wbtv-tv-guide-magazine-special-issue-covers/ Edited July 2, 2015 by tv echo Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1289299
darkestboy July 2, 2015 Share July 2, 2015 That cover is a thing of beauty. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1289352
tv echo July 12, 2015 Share July 12, 2015 Gotham Comic Con Panel - Ben McKenzie, Sean Pertwee, Camren Bicondova, Donal Logue, Erin RichardsPublished on Jul 12, 2015, by Flicks And The City 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1316430
Delphi July 12, 2015 Share July 12, 2015 (edited) Wow...could that host not be bothered to even learn how to pronounce any of the cast members names? That's kinda rude. Edited July 12, 2015 by Delphi 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1316863
ratgirlagogo July 12, 2015 Share July 12, 2015 Thank you tv echo, that was fun, if about as vague as most of these ComicCon press conferences are. The convention host who just can't be bothered, also all too standard. Did notice that when asked an obvious gossip-bait question like "who's your favorite cast member to work with?" only my man Donal was smart enough to give the obvious answer you need to give - that every cast member is your favorite on the day you're working with them, because they are by definition a great cast. I don't just mean that it's the obvious answer in that it's the best PR answer - but that it's also the best attitude to take with people you're going to be working with every day very closely for years. You better be able to work with all of them. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1317464
HoodlumSheep July 16, 2015 Share July 16, 2015 (edited) Congrats to Gotham on the 4 emmy noms! https://twitter.com/ben_mckenzie/status/621727934039109632 Edited July 16, 2015 by HoodlumSheep 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1330605
ratgirlagogo July 16, 2015 Share July 16, 2015 Yes, well deserved. Visually this show is always a treat. Too bad no one could consider the writing on this show Emmy worthy. Show, get on that please. You have a great cast that is struggling here. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1331162
darkestboy July 17, 2015 Share July 17, 2015 I think Robin could've gotten a supporting actor nod. He was consistently great all season but it's nice they got something though. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1333558
AzureOwl July 17, 2015 Share July 17, 2015 (edited) ETA: Sorry. Wrong thread. Edited July 17, 2015 by AzureOwl Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1335132
Kromm July 20, 2015 Share July 20, 2015 The Goldbergs star joins Gotham as Silver St. Cloud You may not recognize her from The Goldbergs because... well... she looks older in "2015" mode. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1340925
Artsda July 22, 2015 Share July 22, 2015 (edited) Michael Chiklis Joins 'Gotham' as Series Regular http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/michael-chiklis-gotham-season-2-810363 He'll play Capt. Nathaniel Barnes on the Fox DC Comics adaptation. Edited July 22, 2015 by Artsda Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1347769
darkestboy July 22, 2015 Share July 22, 2015 Hope he's served better here than American Horror Story. Good to add some new blood into GCPD as well. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1348086
HoodlumSheep July 22, 2015 Share July 22, 2015 Nice. Glad to see new faces being added to the GCPD side too. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1348123
ratgirlagogo July 23, 2015 Share July 23, 2015 I LOVE Michael Chiklis. Between him and Donal Logue plenty of fantasy fodder for me. And he's a comic book fan too. I remember that he was the only cast member from Fantastic Four who actually knew the comic books and was excited about getting to play The Thing. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1350571
HoodlumSheep July 23, 2015 Share July 23, 2015 First trailer for season 2! https://twitter.com/mister_cms/status/624328098545209349 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1352987
tv echo July 30, 2015 Share July 30, 2015 DP plays Butch... ‘Gotham’ Promotes Drew Powell To Regular In Season 2by Nellie Andreeva • July 28, 2015 7:14amhttp://deadline.com/2015/07/gotham-drew-powell-promoted-regular-season-2-1201486095/ Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1371822
ratgirlagogo July 30, 2015 Share July 30, 2015 ‘Gotham’ Promotes Drew Powell To Regular In Season 2 Great! He's very good in this. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1372704
HoodlumSheep August 2, 2015 Share August 2, 2015 (edited) Yay!!!!!! Hopefully that means I get to see more of my darling Hufflepuff (Yes, I think he's a hufflepuff). He's my favorite character! Edited August 2, 2015 by HoodlumSheep Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/6/#findComment-1380273
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