S07.E03: All Tea All Shade

[Cheetosandchoc]

I have not watched this show in ages. I flipped it on just as Cynthia was waiting for Portia. If you show up an hour late and refuse to apologize then answer back something like "it's not like your busy" your lucky I don't stab you. I don't know anything about why they are fighting but I felt all stabby at Portia.

[ridethemaverick]

Is age off limits? These people have made fun of each other based on their God given looks, the way they speak, the way they dress, their height, size, mental capacity, and so on. I don't see why age is so objectionable, and I say that as someone who is on the far side of 30.

[Rina99]

Riley shaming Kayla for not being in college was beyond rude, but even worse was Kandi not admonishing her for it. She just sat there and allowed it, similar to how she stands around when MJ degrades and insults her husband and says nothing. Her passive, say-nothing attitude drives me crazy. Riley's comment might come back to haunt her, because the way Kandi spoils her (and her grandmother), something tells me that Riley might not choose college either, and Kandi will do nothing.

 

Stuff like this is why I dislike Kandi far more than anyone else on the show.  

[Aunt Kiki]

Khandi sends mixed messages IMO - she wants Todd around to cuddle, but also wants him to work and make money.  

 

Which is it, Khandi?

 

His line of work requires him to go where the project is.  He's not that high up on the food chain where he can cherry-pick the jobs that would be short in duration.  He needs to bring home the bacon.  She's known that for as long as they've been together.  She asked him not to take jobs that would keep them apart for long periods of time.  But that was before the pre-nup fiasco.

 

I agree with the poster above that surmised that Khandi may be business smart, but doesn't have a clue about relationships.

 

I also felt bad for Todd's daughter.  

[Betweenyouandme]

Is age off limits? These people have made fun of each other based on their God given looks, the way they speak, the way they dress, their height, size, mental capacity, and so on. I don't see why age is so objectionable, and I say that as someone who is on the far side of 30.

No. I think it's all awful, especially things that can't be changed. For example, I can get mentioning that someone is willfully ignorant, but I don't like saying someone is stupid. Not everyone has the same IQ or opportunities. I know "stupid" is often said, and I sometimes get it when someone's referring to "stupid" actions, but not as a person as a whole. But, these shows are all about gossip and insults. I watch it to think about each person's behavior. I don't get out much, so this is part of my social outlet

[Aunt Kiki]

Stuff like this is why I dislike Kandi far more than anyone else on the show.  

I agree. 

[ridethemaverick]

No. I think it's all awful, especially things that can't be changed. For example, I can get mentioning that someone is willfully ignorant, but I don't like saying someone is stupid. Not everyone has the same IQ or opportunities. I know "stupid" is often said, and I sometimes get it when someone's referring to "stupid" actions, but not as a person as a whole. But, these shows are all about gossip and insults. I watch it to think about each person's behavior. I don't get out much, so this is part of my social outlet

I hear you. It's all very ugly. I would never insult people like that in real life. But for me, watching the show, I think it's only fair that if they toss around stupid or ghetto or moose, then old is fair game.

[SpringTulips]

The red flag went up for me when Kandi and Todd were having that discussion about kids. I am not married and I don't have children, but even I know that you discuss your desire to have kids or not before you get married.

 

I think Kandi was very clear before they got married in saying that she wanted children.  I don't recall Todd's stance before the marriage but it seems he is trying to avoid procreating.  At this point he should be honest if he does not want kids instead of coming up with conveniences such as their work schedules.

Edited November 24, 2014 by SpringTulips

[phoenix780]

I appreciate them acknowledging that Porsha and Cynthia are battling over edited articles and online blogs.  That's about all the positive I got for that scene.  Cynthia's trying really hard and failing, imho, and Porsha is just...a jerk who seems to have this weird sense of entitlement/arrogance.  I hope she fades out quickly because I can't with her.  

 

I'm also done with Nene, who was much better outside of Atlanta, imho.  

 

I liked Claudia, probably because I identify with what she said about being biracial and getting crap from both sides.  That will likely change within the next two weeks or so when she inserts herself into some ridiculous drama to get camera time.

 

If Apollo's worried about what he'll do when he gets out of prison, maybe he should spend those 8 years learning a skill and figuring out a plan (y'know, one that's not another con).  

[swankie]

I think Kandi was very clear before they got marred in saying that she wanted children.  I don't recall Todd's stance before the marriage but it seems he is trying to avoid procreating.

 

 

This tells me that Todd may be already having second thoughts about this marriage.  Who could blame him with the abuse he and his family have taken from Joyce and Kandi's nonchalance  about it.  I think maybe he's starting to see a side of Kandi he didn't see before they were married.

[meeeeech]

Not to take a cheap shot but because she proves it basically every time she's on screen...Porsha is an idiot. If the video of her admonishing gays in a sermon exists and was making the rounds, and Cynthia was asked to comment and stated her opinion, why is this so offensive to Porsha? Cynthia didn't break the story and regardless of her comment, any backlash Porsha received is her own doing for saying those things in the first place. As far as supporting Kenya now in the reunion debacle...were Cynthia and Porsha so close that this was a monumental diss? Why does she even care? As dumb as Cynthia is for defending Peter and Nene and funding several failed businesses I don't think she's wrong to stay out of Porsha's camp. The Nene/Porsha/Phaedra alliance screams negativity to me, as much as they try to claim otherwise.

Edited November 24, 2014 by meeeeech

[PhilMarlowe2]

I had no problem with Cynthia's OTT reaction. Porsha clearly thought she was going to be cutesy Little Ms Bitchy, not caring at all that she was an hour late and steamroll over Cynthia - and Cynthia wasn't letting it drop. Good for her. I think if you have to interact with someone as obnoxious and dumb as Porsha - and Cynthia obviously has to for the show - pretty much the only way to deal with her is show her you are not going to let her get away with her dumb, nasty antics.

[drivethroo]

Age is not off limits, but Porsha isn't that young herself. It would be one thing if Riley or Kaela shaded Kenya or Nene about their age...it's what you would expect from a child. And that's just it: Porsha has the mindset of a child. Porsha is 33,34 years old. She's not that much younger than Cynthia or Kenya so it's interesting she's shading them about their age. I guess she'll be shading Claudia about her age, too. Perhaps Porsha is insecure about the fact these 40+ women still have nice figures and faces...maybe she has the mentality your desirability is over once you hit 40. If that's the case she only has about a good 5-6 to capitalize on her youth and snag another baller and she better do it quickly because there are women 10 years younger than Porsha who have prettier faces, tighter bodies and come with a lot less drama than her. How sad.

Cynthia is from Alabama...she is just as southern as Kandi, Porsha, Nene & Phaedra.

Edited November 24, 2014 by drivethroo

[Lakewood27]

Is Randy Kessler the only attorney in Atlanta?

He is the John Silva of RHoATL.

Kayla seemed uncomfortable being on camera. Riley was behaving like a typical tween/teen.

I can't with Porsha's smug ass. And I agree that this dumb heifer was putting on a necklace and got confused, so she left it in her hair. Cynthia was turned up, but I would be heated if that tumbleweed showed up an hour late and refused to apologize.

[islandgal140]

LOL at the thot conversation between Nene and Porsha. I know Porsha wasn't referring to Cyn and her photoshoot as thot right? This coming from the girl whose 1st scene this season involved her in a bathing suit with her new titties and thighs/ass hanging out? Also, girl I have seen your instagram. Kinda a bit like the thot calling the kettle thot. 

 

Porsha was dead ass wrong for being an hour late and should have apologized. Point. Blank. Period. I don't blame Cyn for being heated about that and expecting an apology and being put out that she didn't get one.

 

That said, I am just not finding this brand new Cynthia who found her voice authentic. Maybe she means to be self deprecating about once occupying the penthouse suite located up Nene's ass but I just can't help but roll my eyes.  She acts like she was tricked into occupying that space and is angry at the world (and right now Porsha) after waking up there like she was roofied into it but that is a place she willingly occupied for many seasons. I know she keeps declaring herself as a grown ass woman this season, but she has always been one and in past seasons she has stated over and over again that she has and had her own mind and Nene didn't rule her. Granted shit changes and she might have woke up and realized the 'friendship' was one sided but it is hard to take her seriously with her friendship contract stuff and her still married to Peter and stays doing the most like showing out with Porsha this episode. I think it just comes down to I find Cynthia's anger is misplace and she comes off as fake. Something about her saying "child, please" or "honey chile" or something typically quite southern sounding just sounds inauthentic and forced coming from her. Whereas, from Phae, Kandi, Nene or hell even Kenya sounds about right. Also her anger with Porsha  seemed misplaced and a bit overboard.  Coming from the NYC modeling scene I don't expect Cyn to get so heated and letting the girl with the IQ of an amoeba make her neck veins pop. Plus, I thought Only politicans got that heated over the flip flopper moniker.

 

Porsha's weaves or wigs or whatever be the damn shit!!! Her shit stays laid. I wish she would hook Nene up so she could get rid of that golden fingerwaved bathmat she insists on wearing on her head. 

 

So much shade thrown this episode but I got to say the one that threw me for a loop the most was Riley's comment about how if she was 18 she would be in college. Riley was giving me Mama Joyce in a training bra feels with that one liner!

 

Claudia seems interesting so far. Is it wrong that I really don't find her to be that pretty facially? Also, sorry when did she conquer NYC, LA and Dubai? That Dubai one kinda throws me. When I think of Dubai and western women conquering I think high price escorts. Sorry, not sorry. 

 

Ayden and Phaedra in the pool chanting "Go Dylan" while Dylan pumped his arms in the air and kicked his feet in his little flotation device has got to be the cutest thing I have ever in my life seen on Bravo! Bar none. 

[swankie]

Ayden and Phaedra in the pool chanting "Go Dylan" while Dylan pumped his arms in the air and kicked his feet in his little flotation device has got to be the cutest thing I have ever in my life seen on Bravo! Bar none.

 

 

I agree!!!  I weep for those precious babies having Apollo for a father.  He's the type that would break into their trust funds to keep up his season ticket holder status. 

[RealityGal]

Wow Riley....that college comment was ungracious. Even if you feel that way you don't say that in front of people.  Geez.  Kandi should take a step back and make sure she isn't raising a brat.

[cyberfruit]

Can't Get Right basically said he's going back to crime as soon as he leaves the clink clink.

 

No you didn't!

[SnarkKitty]

LOL at the thot conversation between Nene and Porsha. I know Porsha wasn't referring to Cyn and her photoshoot as thot right? This coming from the girl whose 1st scene this season involved her in a bathing suit with her new titties and thighs/ass hanging out? Also, girl I have seen your instagram. Kinda a bit like the thot calling the kettle thot.

 

Yass!! *snap* *snap*  Thank you, you saved me the trouble.

 

Speaking of which... Nene's talking heads were hard to watch. OMG, it was like watching some old tired flapper from the 1920s wanting to break into talkies.

 

 

 

I can't with Porsha's smug ass. And I agree that this dumb heifer was putting on a necklace and got confused, so she left it in her hair. Cynthia was turned up, but I would be heated if that tumbleweed showed up an hour late and refused to apologize.

 

On the floor. The floor, you hear me?

[RealityGal]

Cynthia was doing the most in that meeting with Porsha. I guess someone was trying to keep their peach.

 

Is Randy Kessler the only attorney in Atlanta?

 

But he's a season ticket holder.

 

Seriously, apparently there is one divorce attorney in Atlanta.  Maybe thats why Phaedra was trying to handle Sheree's family law matters.  Perhaps there is just a shortage of family law attorneys in Atlanta.

 

They are all trying to keep their peaches.  I'm not sure who put out the memo, but everyone seems to have turned up a notch or two.

 

The only one who's thirsty enough to appear on this show.

Speaking of which... Nene's talking heads were hard to watch. OMG, it was like watching some old tired flapper from the 1920s wanting to break into talkies.

 

I don't know whats going on with her, her affects are so over the top.  Its like she is always making an inside joke that I am not a party to.

 

 

Porsha is right, at first Cynthia did say that Kenya "provoked" Porsha but that she disagreed with the violence, then she changed her opinion to go along with the majority of viewers and said Kenya did not "provoke" her. She is a "flip flopper". LOL  I think her, Cynthia's, biggest issue with Porsha right now is that Nene and Porsha are friendly and any friend of her enemy is also an enemy! They talked over each other so much that neither heard the other at all tonight, IMO, both women are fools! LOL 

 

I'm not sure how I feel about the word flip flopper.  I think sometimes people reflect on a situation and change their minds.  I have no respect for people who doggedly hold onto a point of view just because they don't want to be perceived as weak or a flip flopper.  Certainly some people change their minds only so they can have the most friends, but maybe Cynthia just reflected on the situation, listened to the other side and thought the arguments were well reasoned.  I think people should be allowed to change their minds.

 

I was laughing at the people in the restaurant laughing at Porsha and Cynthia.

Porsha honey, you stay commenting about somebody's age. May you be lucky enough to get to be their age, and when you get there hopefully a pretty young thing doesn't throw shots at your age. Cause if we can keep it real, you ain't that young yourself. But carry on.

 

Well lets hope that when she gets to that age she will have accomplished something.  Say what you will about Cynthia, she had a career as an international model, and to me, she still looks better than Porsha.  Porsha has not accomplished much of anything on her own and before the show.

 

I feel like I just watched the verbal equivalent of an old man fight. Don't bring none, won't get none! Oh rly? Rly! Well good. Great! You're old! You're stupid! I'm good! Me too! What were we talking about? Get off my lawn!

 LMAO

 

College isn't for everyone (though Kayla has the luxury of trial and error without fear of Sallie Mae) but if Kayla's not going, she needs to be working, IMO - not least because it'll get her out of the house and she can meet some folks.

Todd and Kandi were together for a couple of years before marrying, but they don't appear to have talked about any of the big issues before jumping the broom.

 

I went to college right out of high school, and I wish I had taken a year or two off to figure out what it was I really wanted to do, and to explore different paths before going to college.  I think college is a much better experience if you can study something that you have a passion for or an interest in.  But going to college just to go may not be the wisest idea.  Maybe Kayla will do some exploring in the fashion industry, and maybe she will like it, and can see how college can fit into helping her with that, or she will not like it and then she can look at something else without having wasted her time on classes she won't use and doesn't need.

[Maharincess]

Between that wretch of a mother,and her spoiled brat daughter, Kandi is going to end up alone.

What the hell is an 11 year old doing weighing in on what an 18 year old should and shouldn't be doing.

And her little college crack should have gotten her sent to her room. That was meant to be nothing but a dig.

I don't really like any of these women. Come to think of it I can't think of any Housewife from any city that I like.

Nene was my favorite on season one but she's unrecognizable from that Nene though in every way. She looks different and her personality has completely changed.

I can't wait for her fall. I doubt she's invested in anything other than ugly size 14 shoes and gaudy purses for Greg to carry.

Edited November 24, 2014 by Maharincess

[swankie]

Between that wretch of a mother,and her spoiled brat daughter, Kandi is going to end up alone.

What the hell is an 11 year old doing weighing in on what an 18 year old should and shouldn't be doing.

And her little college crack should have gotten her sent to her room. That was meant to be nothing but a dig.

 

 

I totally agree with this.  Kandi has a way of turning a blind eye to any bad behavior her family displays.  I wonder how her reaction would have been if Kayla had shot back a dig at Riley?  Riley had better hope Kayla doesn't lose her cool and start commenting on those gigantic knees of hers.  Those things are huuuge! (tm Nene talking about Kandi's thighs)  Let me shut up since I'm going into an area I don't need to go.  I have to remember that Riley is a child.  (holds head in shame)

[heebiejeebie]

I get it.  I do.  Cynthia is desperate.  Desperate to keep that RH check coming in.  Paying off the wheels from being towed.  Desperate to pay the rents and mortgages on the Peter Thomas English Muffin Empire.  Desperate to be relevant.  Talked about.  She knows that when the show says swim she jumps in.  But someone needs to tell that fool when it comes to "dramatic" sit downs with the likes of Porsha?  No water in that there pool hon.  No matter how hard you backstroke. 

 

And her makeup.  Just give in Bailey Girl.  All done up like that and I think you had a stroke and think you have to first embarrass DJ at the bus before heading off to Chicago to surprise Darlene.

[cooksdelight]

Somewhere, way back on Kandi's Facebook page, she said that Kayla was moving to Atlanta to go to college. That she would be living with them and be part of the show. I guess she didn't get the memo from production that Kayla is to play the part of the outsider with Riley giving her the side eye until the day they started filming. All of Kandi's scenes with her family seem forced and fake, to me. I'm just not buying that Todd would put his daughter into the position of being verbally abused on tape unless they were all in on the joke.

[LilaFowler]

Are people not allowed to change their minds on this show?  Why is changing one's mind immediately result in getting accused of being a "flip flopper"? 

 

I can't with Porsha.  She becomes Concubine #145 of some old married African and she struts around thinking she's the shit?  Go sit down somewhere and find someone to hand you some cash so you can get some furniture and fix your damn doorbell.   Oh wait, this is the same heifer who thought the Underground Railroad was an actual train.  Dumb don't pay bills, apparently.  She also needs to stop talking about other womens' ages like she's some PYT.   She may be the youngest in this group but she's no spring chicken.  At 33 she has little to show for herself and her life, and acting and dressing like a 23-year-old won't shave a decade off of her actual age.   We all know you're on the wrong side of 30, sis.  Grow up.

 

Cynthia must be rattled by the prospect of losing her peach because she should not have let that intellectual midget in a cheap dress get her so frustrated. 

 

Riley had better be careful or she'll turn into Joyce.  Personally I think she's halfway there.  That crack about college was just rude and nasty and it was designed to sting. 

[swankie]

So Cynthia called Porsha the "puppeteer" or "puppeteer #2" because of her friendship with Nene.  Does she realize that the puppeteer is the person who is in control?  Cynthia needs to go back in front of the mirror and practice because she stinks at throwing shade.  Even Porsha does better than that.

[ToukieSmith]

Age is not off limits, but Porsha isn't that young herself. It would be one thing if Riley or Kaela shaded Kenya or Nene about their age...it's what you would expect from a child. And that's just it: Porsha has the mindset of a child. Porsha is 33,34 years old. She's not that much younger than Cynthia or Kenya so it's interesting she's shading them about their age. I guess she'll be shading Claudia about her age, too. Perhaps Porsha is insecure about the fact these 40+ women still have nice figures and faces...maybe she has the mentality your desirability is over once you hit 40. If that's the case she only has about a good 5-6 to capitalize on her youth and snag another baller and she better do it quickly because there are women 10 years younger than Porsha who have prettier faces, tighter bodies and come with a lot less drama than her. How sad.

Cynthia is from Alabama...she is just as southern as Kandi, Porsha, Nene & Phaedra.

 

I would also add that Porsha played the innocent victim when she first started using age as a way to shade someone.  She does not own the fact that she was the one who started the negativity in the first place.  Her rudeness, immaturity and sense of entitlement gets on my nerves.

 

Cynthia came off juvenile in her exchange with Porsha, but Porsha was in the wrong in my opinion.  She wanted this meeting to call Cynthia names instead of listening to why Cynthia has become cool towards her.  IMO, Cynthia had every right not to invite Porsha to her event because Porsha was talking shit about her.  Why does Porsha need all of the Housewives on her side of the reunion fight?  Nene, Phaedra, and Kandi were in her corner so who cares if Cynthia wasn't 100% supportive?  It wasn't like they were tight in the first place.  If Porsha really wanted to work things out, she would have been on time (or apologized for being late) and she would have listened instead of being ready to chastise and insult Cynthia.

 

Porsha's friendship status is well earned.  Hopefully her frequent appearances in the initial episodes means that she won't appear much in future episodes....."by ashy" indeed.

[ToukieSmith]

 

I went to college right out of high school, and I wish I had taken a year or two off to figure out what it was I really wanted to do, and to explore different paths before going to college.  I think college is a much better experience if you can study something that you have a passion for or an interest in.  But going to college just to go may not be the wisest idea.  Maybe Kayla will do some exploring in the fashion industry, and maybe she will like it, and can see how college can fit into helping her with that, or she will not like it and then she can look at something else without having wasted her time on classes she won't use and doesn't need.

 

I wish I had taken a year of two off as well; however, it would have been WWIII if I had done so because Mrs. Smith would not have allowed it. 

 

I think its different for people who don't have to go to school like Kayla.  She has the opportunity to take courses that interest her instead of taking courses toward degrees that provide a paycheck after college.  If she is interested in owning a boutique, then business courses are a must.  Now, she has a mentor that can give her real world exposure, but those college courses can help round out her knowledge.  The other reason for going to college is to build a business/social network.  She is new to Atlanta and college is a great way to find and build life long friendships. 

[LoveMyVike]

LOL at the thot conversation between Nene and Porsha. I know Porsha wasn't referring to Cyn and her photoshoot as thot right? This coming from the girl whose 1st scene this season involved her in a bathing suit with her new titties and thighs/ass hanging out? Also, girl I have seen your instagram. Kinda a bit like the thot calling the kettle thot. 

 

Porsha was dead ass wrong for being an hour late and should have apologized. Point. Blank. Period. I don't blame Cyn for being heated about that and expecting an apology and being put out that she didn't get one.

 

That said, I am just not finding this brand new Cynthia who found her voice authentic. Maybe she means to be self deprecating about once occupying the penthouse suite located up Nene's ass but I just can't help but roll my eyes.  She acts like she was tricked into occupying that space and is angry at the world (and right now Porsha) after waking up there like she was roofied into it but that is a place she willingly occupied for many seasons. I know she keeps declaring herself as a grown ass woman this season, but she has always been one and in past seasons she has stated over and over again that she has and had her own mind and Nene didn't rule her. Granted shit changes and she might have woke up and realized the 'friendship' was one sided but it is hard to take her seriously with her friendship contract stuff and her still married to Peter and stays doing the most like showing out with Porsha this episode. I think it just comes down to I find Cynthia's anger is misplace and she comes off as fake. Something about her saying "child, please" or "honey chile" or something typically quite southern sounding just sounds inauthentic and forced coming from her. Whereas, from Phae, Kandi, Nene or hell even Kenya sounds about right. Also her anger with Porsha  seemed misplaced and a bit overboard.  Coming from the NYC modeling scene I don't expect Cyn to get so heated and letting the girl with the IQ of an amoeba make her neck veins pop. Plus, I thought Only politicans got that heated over the flip flopper moniker.

 

Porsha's weaves or wigs or whatever be the damn shit!!! Her shit stays laid. I wish she would hook Nene up so she could get rid of that golden fingerwaved bathmat she insists on wearing on her head. 

 

So much shade thrown this episode but I got to say the one that threw me for a loop the most was Riley's comment about how if she was 18 she would be in college. Riley was giving me Mama Joyce in a training bra feels with that one liner!

 

Claudia seems interesting so far. Is it wrong that I really don't find her to be that pretty facially? Also, sorry when did she conquer NYC, LA and Dubai? That Dubai one kinda throws me. When I think of Dubai and western women conquering I think high price escorts. Sorry, not sorry. 

 

Ayden and Phaedra in the pool chanting "Go Dylan" while Dylan pumped his arms in the air and kicked his feet in his little flotation device has got to be the cutest thing I have ever in my life seen on Bravo! Bar none.

Omg, islandgal! I was dying at your ENTIRE post! I kept trying to hit the "like" but because I'm blind, I think I may have hit the exclamation point a few times! Please forgive me if I accidentally tried to report ya to the moderator.

[loki310]

I don't like Riley. She's been disrespectful on numerous occasions and Kandi just laughs it off. Such a brat. She acts like she's going to be enrolling at MIT when she'll probably end up at a local commuter college for two semesters before dropping out and working as an "intern" making $80,000 for Kandi Enterprises.

And Kandi, maybe you shouldn't have been so quick to make Todd sign a prenup if you wanted him to stay home all day and night to be your cuddle partner...

[Watermelon]

He is the John Silva of RHoATL.

Kayla seemed uncomfortable being on camera. Riley was behaving like a typical tween/teen.

I can't with Porsha's smug ass. And I agree that this dumb heifer was putting on a necklace and got confused, so she left it in her hair. Cynthia was turned up, but I would be heated if that tumbleweed showed up an hour late and refused to apologize.

But...if we're already not cool, you not gonna come in my face with a nasty ass attitude and expect me to apologize.  Again, I'm super contrary so Cynthia's attitude would have have me acting very much like Porsha. 

 

If production made Cynthia stay or made her not call Porsha to find out where the hell she was, that's none of my concern. You waited an hour, so wait until a have a seat so I can apologize lol.

 

Besides, it's obvious that Cynthia don't ever act like that. She's been doing this new Kenya Nene Bitch Personality and it is so dry.

[RealityGal]

But...if we're already not cool, you not gonna come in my face with a nasty ass attitude and expect me to apologize.  Again, I'm super contrary so Cynthia's attitude would have have me acting very much like Porsha. 

 

If production made Cynthia stay or made her not call Porsha to find out where the hell she was, that's none of my concern. You waited an hour, so wait until a have a seat so I can apologize lol.

 

Besides, it's obvious that Cynthia don't ever act like that. She's been doing this new Kenya Nene Bitch Personality and it is so dry.

 

But truly, if it had been anyone else besides Cynthia, Porsha would have apologized for being an hour late or she would have been a little more timely.  She just figures she can do that to Cynthia and not apologize because she doesn't think she has to respect Cynthia.  Porsha should have walked in apologizing, she didn't need to sit down to do it.   Her apology shouldn't have to do with whether or not she thinks she needs to be nice with someone, it should have to do with simple courtesy.  If you arrive an hour late, apologize because its the right thing to do.

 

Just because you think someone is calm and cool enough to not go off on you for being late is no reason not to walk in apologizing for being an hour late.  Kandi tries to pull that nonsense too, like if she just randomly shows up two hours late no one should say anything, and she should just hope that no one notices.  

 

Simply put, IMHO, you should apologize because you did something wrong, not based on whether or not you're cool with someone or if you think that they are going to go off on you for doing something wrong.  Showing up an hour late to a lunch you set up is wrong.

[Ubiquitous]

Wow Riley....that college comment was ungracious. Even if you feel that way you don't say that in front of people.  Geez.  Kandi should take a step back and make sure she isn't raising a brat.

Too late!

 

Didn't Kandi and Todd say Kayla was moving in b/c she was attending college in ATL?

[RealityGal]

Too late!

 

Didn't Kandi and Todd say Kayla was moving in b/c she was attending college in ATL?

Touche!

[Maharincess]

I totally agree with this. Kandi has a way of turning a blind eye to any bad behavior her family displays. I wonder how her reaction would have been if Kayla had shot back a dig at Riley? Riley had better hope Kayla doesn't lose her cool and start commenting on those gigantic knees of hers. Those things are huuuge! (tm Nene talking about Kandi's thighs) Let me shut up since I'm going into an area I don't need to go. I have to remember that Riley is a child. (holds head in shame)

I was shocked at how big Riley's legs were too. She's too damn young to be that big.

Kayla is a tiny little thing.

Kandi was on Watch What Happens and was asked about her mom being such an asshole, she said what her mom says doesn't effect HER, I was yelling at the TV, what about how it effects your husband and step daughter?!

I totally agree with the poster who said Joyce has probably filled Riley's ears with all kinds of crap about Todd and his family.

I can just hear her telling Riley that Todd and Kayla are going to take all of the money and they won't get anything.

I hate that woman.

Edited November 24, 2014 by Maharincess

[phoenix780]

But truly, if it had been anyone else besides Cynthia, Porsha would have apologized for being an hour late or she would have been a little more timely.  She just figures she can do that to Cynthia and not apologize because she doesn't think she has to respect Cynthia.

 

I think Porsha would have done that to anyone at this point.  She acts like a teenager who's always gotten away with everything, and I think she's been emboldened further by physically attacking someone and getting applauded for it.  Almost makes me wish she'd stick around as a full "housewife" for a bit longer, at least until she runs up against someone who neither finds her cute nor thinks she'd be a useful pawn.  I feel like we should get to see that part of her story, and it's bound to happen at some point.  

 

I totally agree with the poster who said Joyce has probably filled Riley's ears with all kinds of crap about Todd and his family.

 

I wonder if it's the other way...or at least a bit of a loop.  Riley complains about something- like having to do chores or getting an allowance she doesn't like- and Joyce picks it up as evidence in her campaign against Todd.  Didn't Joyce throw something like that out there last season?  

 

Kids can be manipulative.  Riley might be trying to play the situation to keep the permissive parent and ditch the guy who may set some rules she'd have to follow (funny she had no problem trying to shut down a later curfew for the other girl).

[Bronzedog]

Looks like it's almost time for us to start a pool as to how long we think Kandi and Todd's marriage will last. Me, I'll guess 3 years.

Edited November 24, 2014 by Bronzedog

[walnutqueen]

Wow Riley....that college comment was ungracious. Even if you feel that way you don't say that in front of people.  Geez.  Kandi should take a step back and make sure she isn't raising a brat.

 

 

Too late!

 

You beat me to the punch, Ubiquitous!

 

I also don't think the bitch gene skipped a generation. 

[Leroux]

I am a little bit confused, for about three season now Cynthia has told us again and again that she was not Nene's puppet, she swore and declared in every interview that she was her own woman and that she was never Nene's mouth piece; yet in this last three episodes , in every one of them, she has reminded us that she was firmly installed in the penthouse in Nene's ass? which one is it? I think that Cinthya does herself no favors by admitting repeatedly that she has always been a follower and never a leader.

 

No wonder PapaSmurf does with her and her money whatever he wants. IMO the only reason why she is acting like she is right now is because the fear is real, Bravo must have said to Porsha and Cynthia that one of them needed to go and this scene was the deciding point. I don't expect too much from Porsha because I have always thought she was as dumb as a box of rocks, so for me in this scene Cynthia lost big time.

 

Cynthia already had the upper hand, the match was won before it even started, Porsha coming in late (I am sure production had a hand in it and Cynthia and Porsha knew this ergo Porsha's unwillingness to apologize), but all Cynthia had to do was sit back and let Porsha be Porsha , laugh it off and call it a day, she would have been the clear winner. Instead she ruined it, when we are here debating who won, then there is a problem, going against Porsha should be a slum dunk. Cynthia started with a piss off match, never letting Porsha inarticulate her thoughts, misquating things and just proving that Porsha is not the only stupid one.

 

I wish Cynthia would have remained cool and collected, this scene sort of remained me of the Brass Monkey bar scene in RHNY, Bethenny mastered and owned Kelly like a pro by basically letting Kelly show her ugly colors all by herself, she announced Kelly was late and then from that point on she sort of sat back and let Kelly bury herself, why couldn't Cynthia have done the same?

 

In this kind of confrontations usually the one who can keep the cool head is the one who wins and it pains me to say this because I dislike Porsha so much but in this scene, it was obvious to me that despite arriving late, the one who lost it with the pissy attitude was Cynthia.

[PhilMarlowe2]

But...if we're already not cool, you not gonna come in my face with a nasty ass attitude and expect me to apologize.  Again, I'm super contrary so Cynthia's attitude would have have me acting very much like Porsha. 

 

But Porsha was the one who was rude from the get-go. Cynthia mentioned Porsha was late - it was at that point that Porsha should say, "OMG I'm so sorry, here is why I was late, etc." Instead, Porsha was all, "Well, I'm glad you could wait." with a snotty smile. Porsha clearly thought she was being cute/funny and clearly couldn't wait to joke about it with Nene. That was when Cynthia started digging into her for needing to apologize.

 

I just can't with Porsha. I feel genuine hatred for her. Just like with Kelly Bensimon. To me, these two are the worst specimens in Housewives history - because they represent that rare combination of being genuinely mean spirited while also being incredibly dumb while also pretending to be nice people who are the victims of others. It is such a maddening combination.

Edited November 24, 2014 by PhilMarlowe2

[ghoulina]

I just can't with Porsha. I find her to be the most annoying, inauthentic, pretentious bitch on this show. I have not been a huge fan of Cynthia lately, but I was totally on her side during that meeting. It is incredibly rude to show up on hour late. If I were Cynthia, I would have left way before that - especially if there had been no call or text to explain myself. Then....Porsha just won't STFU. She kept complaining that Cynthia cut her off, but damn....you have to in order to get a word in edgewise with Porsha! It's like she intentionally keeps talking and talking, even if she's just repeating herself, so that she can be in control. 

 

FTR, I don't read all the blogs and tabloid interviews, but I felt like I got what Cynthia was saying. It seemed, to me, was that her position was that both Kenya AND Porsha were in the wrong. Which, is precisely how I feel. I feel like Kenya was really harassing Porsha in a way that was totally unacceptable, but Porsha was definitely wrong to get physical. They both behaved badly, and I don't see recognizing that as flip-flopping. 

 

Now, if you want to comment on Cynthia being all buddy-buddy with Kenya this year, fine. But I feel like they all flip-flop like that. Cynthia is on the outs with Nene, so she's all buddying up with Kenya....and in turn Porsha is buddying up with Nene - who, didn't she make her cry last season? For not letting Nene know when she moved to the neighborhood? Other than Phaedra and Kandi, they all seem to be fairweather friends, so pipe down. 

 

That meeting with Todd's daughter and Riley - AWKWARD! Riley clearly has been top dog around there, and I think she's worried that Todd's style of parenting is going to cramp her style. What the hell does a pre-teen need $100/week for? Especially when it's clear her basic needs are being met. Future Mama Joyce, that one. And I really didn't like her dig at Todd's daughter (sorry, what's her name? Kayla?) about not going to college. I'm going to remember that, so Riley better have her ass enrolled right after high school. 

[copacabana]

Porsha was acting a proper brat -- and looked like a Bratz doll with that thing on her head -- but, man, Cynthia is just no good at playing a bitchy diva.  Merit aside, Porsha basically owned her.  Cynthia doesn't do this kind of thing well -- She had to resort to Kenya's catch phrase (Don't come for me ... ) and Nene's Bye, Fill in the Blank.   She must be desperate to hang on.  She's also not looking good this season.  She looks swollen, over made-up, and that stringy blonde hair does nothing for her.  The argument is beyond dumb so I don't much care but Porsha, ignorant and obnoxious as she is, is definitely more comfy in front of the camera doing this kind of routine. On to the next scene, girls!

 

Have to say too that bringing up whomever a gal is sleeping with, for whatever reason, is never a good look.  Cynthia should tend to her own affairs on that front.  Really petty although I'm sure that cue cards were involved in this one. 

 

Kandi's home life always looks so stressful and unfun.  If she's pushing her daughter into following this script, shame on her.  I sense no chemistry with Todd at all.  They could be brother and sister.  

 

Apollo is really dumber than a load of laundry, isn't he?  I'm sure Phaedra drew up an ironclad pre-nup so good luck wringing any water out of that stone.  

 

Had to chuckle at some of the ladies finding new ways to torment Kenya over fellatiogate.  Kenya is always so super dramatic with her tears and exits. 

[ghoulina]

If Apollo's worried about what he'll do when he gets out of prison, maybe he should spend those 8 years learning a skill and figuring out a plan (y'know, one that's not another con).

 

I was so annoyed with him and all his whining about how "unfair" is, how he'll come out with nothing. Well then, maybe try not to go to prison in the first place! Damn. He still would have had a nice, comfortable life without all his shady shit on the side. It's nobody's fault but his own that he's going away and losing everything. I do think the prison system falls woefully short in actually rehabilitating criminals, and that a lot of them come out worse than they were before. But there are programs for people who actually want to turn things around. The thing is, Apollo doesn't strike me as someone who wants to work hard and make changes. He seems to just want everything to be easy and fall into his lap. 

[cooksdelight]

 

Didn't Kandi and Todd say Kayla was moving in b/c she was attending college in ATL?

Yes, that's the real-life plan. Kandi really should have reminded production that she and Todd had already announced to people after attending Kayla's graduation that she was moving to Atlanta to attend college. Their scripted storyline for this season to set up Kayla and Riley as rivals is just too over-the-top fake. I've seen far too many photos of them on trips and outings together, they look like they get along just fine.

Shame on Kandi and Todd for allowing their daughters to be protrayed this way. They may think "Oh, it's just play-acting for TV" but their friends might not realize that.

[Primetimer]

Two new arrivals, one return, and one grand exit keep us on our toes.

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[Lakewood27]

Apollo is really dumber than a load of laundry, isn't he?  I'm sure Phaedra drew up an ironclad pre-nup so good luck wringing any water out of that stone.

The only one getting rich is the Real Lawyer of Atlanta, feeding on the delusions of his clients.

Porsha- "Even though nothing is in my name and I was only married for a minute, I deserve a fat settlement".

Todd- "Even though Kandi's high-priced attorneys have already drawn up the prenup and my fiancée has threatened to cancel the wedding, I'm not signing a prenup".

Appollo- "Even though I've signed an iron-clad prenup, my trifling ass is headed to jail for 8 years, leaving my wife to provide for our two children, I deserve a cash settlement".

[ramby]

Copacabana, I agree with you...Cynthia does NOT look good this year.  Her face does look all swollen.  I wonder why?  Her butt looks ginormous also and not in a good way.  I also agree with you on Cynthia bringing up who Porsha may be shagging.  She said she heard Porsha was sleeping with a married man.  That's just not something you say on national tv if you are not 100% certain it's true.  Bad, bad, bad Cynthia.  You looked absolutely ridiculous the entire time.  A five year old in menopause indeed.  It doesn't make any sense but that exactly how you were acting.

 

Riley was gonna hold back on the college comment.  She was asked a question, was about to answer and then said never mind.  Kandi is the one who kept telling her to say what she was gonna say so then she finally did say that at 18 she planned on being in college.  I really didn't see anything wrong with that.  If she plans on going to college then good for her and why should she be quiet about her college plans just because it might offend someone else who chooses to not attend college?

[SFoster21]

Watching these people is wearying.

[Baltimore Betty]

I could not figure out if Kayla was surprised by the cameras being there and that was the reason for her being awkward there or the fact that she knew she was there for a story line for Todd.

The "baby talk" scene with Kandi and Todd was hard to watch, Kandi's boobs and sex toys were all out!  Honestly I could almost hear the wheels in her head turning (when Todd was explaining that he would be out of town for work reasons), she looked like she about to say she has plenty of money and would pay for everything, why work?

She can not have it both ways, Todd with no job is a no-no and Todd with a job is a no-no...which way does she want it?  MJ will talk bad about because he is out of town on business and she will talk bad about him if he was in town with no job.

Riley, oy vey.  She just maybe an MJ in training.

[Neurochick]

Claudia sounds kind of crazy and I'm not here for her biracial struggle story.

 

What's wrong with her being biracial?  I don't have any problems with her, yet.

 

Cynthia is glad that it was Porsha sitting across from her and not me.  I find it sad that a woman who was once an international model feels that Peter is the best she can do for a mate.  

 

I was on the phone the first time I saw Apollo talking to the lawyer and I fell asleep the second time.  Am I wrong or did Apollo say that he needs money so he doesn't have to work in McDonald's when he gets out of jail and he wants money from Phaedra?  Silly fool.  Most ex-cons don't come out to wives like Phaedra, ready to hand a job to you on a silver platter.  I think Apollo just didn't want to work like a normal person.

 

Phaedra should have just gone to a sperm bank and called it a day.

Edited November 24, 2014 by Neurochick