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48 minutes ago, Nysha said:

I have a son with schizo-effect disorder who is homeless and has been living in his car for the last 6 years. I last heard from him in January when he called to say his car had been impounded due to unpaid traffic tickets. He paid the tickets but the impound fees were more than the car was worth, so he was going to save up a couple of months' Social Security and get a different one.

I've been extremely worried about him because of the virus, but I don't have any way of contacting him and I don't know where he is. Last night there was a knock at my door, and there he was. 

He's had a rough time. His SS was cut off b/c he didn't get the notification of review. The homeless shelter where he was staying closed due to the virus, so he's been on the streets for the last 3 weeks. He walked 60 miles to a Salvation Army church and they put him on a bus 5 days ago to my town. 

I love him, but he can't stay with me. His issues exacerbate my depression and anxiety, he has a warrant for his arrest in my state, plus he caused so many problems with the neighbors the last time he stayed here that I got a written warning if he came back I'd be evicted. So, I fed him a large meal, let him shower, and gave him $50. He said he was going to go to the police station and turn himself in, since then he'd have a place to stay. 

I'm glad he is okay and it breaks my heart that I cannot do anything to help him. His paranoia doesn't allow him to utilize the social services he's qualified for, he isn't considered a danger to himself or the public, and I don't have the resources to ensure that he has a safe place to live. This has been an ongoing issue since he started to show signs of schizophrenia when he was 16.

Because he's been in and out of homeless shelters and on a bus with strangers, my youngest son and I are completely self-quarantining for the next 2 weeks. I'm still luckier than most, since I'm already working from home, plus I can order supplies online and my friend will pick them up for me. But it's going to be a long 2 weeks dealing with my youngest who also has schizophrenia and logically understands why we have to stay home, but still badgers me to go to the store.

So sorry. You feeding him and allowing him to shower shows how much you love and care for him. I have a long history of working with folks living with thought disorders and supporting their families as well.

I hope for your sake, as well as your son's, that he is able to find and accept some support during this time. 

Many hugs to you.

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Just seconding @Panopticon and @Scarlett45 to say I have never been so aware of my privilege as I have been these last weeks. Yes, I have an underlying lung disease but so do a lot of people who can't afford to make the choice we've made to stay exclusively at home and have everything we need delivered. I am tipping exorbitantly and ordering gift cards for my favorite restaurants and donating to food banks. We've been home for 37 days now and it would not have been my choice of how to spend these weeks but we CAN do it. That makes us fortunate.

And @Nysha you have so much on your plate. I agree you did the best you could for your older son and are doing the best you can for your younger one. Please take care and I hope things get easier for you. <hugs>

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15 hours ago, Panopticon said:

And this makes me glad that I don't have much of a social media presence. How ridiculous.

Things aren't equal between people who die and people who survive.

Things aren't equal between people who lose someone (or several someones) they love; and who lose someone (or several someones) who are more tangential in their lives; and who don't know anyone who has died at all.

Things aren't equal between people who have been very ill, sometimes to the point of coming off a ventilator with PTSD; and between people who have other medical issues that can't be dealt with because hospitals need to focus on COVID-19; and people who are perfectly healthy.

Things aren't equal between people who will never recover from the financial hit of being laid off and are now food insecure; and between people who are stressed from the financial hit now, but will be fine in a few years; and between people who are able to telework comfortably.

Things aren't equal between people who need to work all hours on the front lines and people who don't need to do those things.

Even if we narrow it down to folks who are basically physically healthy and financially secure, things aren't equal. Some people who are alone are finding time to relax and forge a new routine and resting their introverted souls quite happily. Some people who are alone are extroverts going stir crazy, and/or are swirling with lonely anxieties about how worthless they must be because they've been cut out of everyone else's life. Some people who are tucked up with their families are rediscovering how deeply they enjoy each other now that life has slowed down.  Some people who are locked in with their families are contemplating divorce, feeling like failed parents because homeschool is going poorly, and holding on by a thread for the day they can be alone for just a moment.

Peoples' homes are not equal. Is it easier to be trapped in a mansion, or a home with lots of land you can safely roam without a mask, or a 400-square-foot urban apartment? Are these things equal?

And then there are the milestones. Did you have to cancel a trip you'd planned for years? A wedding? A graduation? That marathon you'd been training for? Have you had to put off selling/buying a home after ages of careful planning? Did this interrupt the start of your new job? Are you pregnant and looking at your partner being banned from the hospital while you give birth? True of some, and not others.

I wonder if anyone who can put forward the idea that the virus is any kind of equalizer has listened to a thing another human being has said for the last month. It affects us all, but not equally. And even among the lucky ones, it has a nasty way of handing out opposite punishments where some suffer from too much togetherness while others suffer from too much loneliness.

Ugh.

(If you read this far, I send you virtual socially distant takeout from your struggling restaurant of choice.)

 

 

 

 

This was wonderful!! May I share it with a friend? Not via social media, just someone I know who would be be screaming - she gets it!!!

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@Nysha I'm so sorry.

@Scarlett45 I agree we're not all in the same boat. My dad and I already been housebound for the past five and a half years so its really no different except for having to reschedule doctors appointments which is a little annoying but that's mostly due to my dad's was suppose to have his procedures a month before the shutdown began but both were canceled due to either the VA or hospital or both messed up the paperwork then had to be rescheduled again due to the virus. If they hadn't messed up it would already be done and hopefully have answers to his medical problems. While I had hoped to go to mine and get the blood work to see if my current medicine is working I don't think it is and while it would have been nice to know and see what the next step is. Its really not like waiting a month or two would really make a difference. Whatever my dad hasn't been able to find at the grocery store my brother and sister-in-law have been able to find for us. No one in my family has the virus. We've been very, very lucky. Watching the news reports every day and seeing how many people die every day, the long lines of people waiting for food, and trying to get unemployment. I can't imagine how their holding up. Or the doctors, nurses and other medical staff having to deal with taking care of patients and losing patients. Listening to some of the doctors and nurses on the news talking about being the only one there when the patient dies and having to inform another family. I can't imagine how their handling that or anyone else on the front lines. Or being the family or friend who can't visit their love one not even to say goodbye. There's so many people in terrible boats. 

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6 hours ago, realityfan26 said:

This was wonderful!! May I share it with a friend? Not via social media, just someone I know who would be be screaming - she gets it!!!

Of course! Share however you’d like!

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So I work for the state labor department and volunteered to process unemployment calls because it’s double time and I’m trying to pay off some debt.  Big mistake! I really feel for the callers and try to help however I can, but it’s a complete mess. For one, the system is not configured to handle 20x the normal call volume because it was already slow. It also had to be reprogrammed to approve self-employed individuals, and those who didn’t work enough quarters, but qualify for assistance due to the pandemic.  Then another program had to be written to account for the federal unemployment stimulus.  But pandemic payments haven’t processed yet, but people are inquiring about that.  And I have no idea what schema is being used to determine when those payments go out. Some started getting them this week, but others did not. 

Plus you have individuals calling to file initial claims, check the status of their claims because they don’t have internet access or are unable to use the system, people who didn’t receive their cards, pending claims, appeals, weekly certifications, and those needing to refile because they missed a weekly certification and have to open a new claim.  And the lost annoying are those who are calling to ask about the stimulus because their (mom, cousin, aunt, brother, etc.) got it, and they want to know if, when and how much they’ll get.  All those questions are on the website by the way. And I know not everyone has interest access, but if you’re talking to someone in the background about what you saw on Instagram, then yeah, you can access our website.

Also, the company supplying the cards services multiple states, so processing times are delayed, and you can’t really get through to their customer service. Unfortunately, you must contact this company about receiving a new card because if we are to request new cards for claimants, no one showed me how to do it.  Oh, and the “training” was piecemeal at best.  I’ve had to teach myself how to navigate the system and what different terminology and codes mean.  I’ve worked with the agency for years, but never had access to the system (even though I should have but that’s another story).   Thanks God my temporary supervisor is attentive and hard working. She has been a lifesaver!

And these are problems common to every state. I can’t even imagine what my counterparts in New York are going through. Did I mention unemployment is a hot ass mess? I’m going through bottles of Stella Rosa like it’s Dasani!

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9 hours ago, andromeda331 said:

Or the doctors, nurses and other medical staff having to deal with taking care of patients and losing patients

Just yesterday, my niece shared a post in our (now) nightly family zoom chat that a young doctor posted on his private page. She only saw it because he tagged her husband in it (she's ok with it,btw.)

Keep in mind he's a very new doctor, and English is his second language. But this just shows how much he took Flaco's death to heart. This has to be so hard  on the healthcare workers. (and I know they are all exhausted.) 😟

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7 minutes ago, doodlebug said:

JT posted on social media complaining about the hardship of 'parenting 24/7'.  Apparently, the nanny didn't come with him and his wife and son when they retreated to their luxurious Montana home in an exclusive resort.  Can you imagine?  2 parents, having enough money not to have to worry about going to work, having to watch their own preschool age child by themselves?  His son is 5 years old, BTW and perfectly healthy.  More than a few people were upset about his remarks and pointed out to him that there are a lot of single parents with multiple kids, people who have no money coming in while home with their kids, people sheltering in place in tiny apartments and substandard housing.  And, you know, people who have parented their kids 24/7 since birth and aren't impressed that he hasn't.

Shut up, Justin.

That would do it. Shut up Justin.

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45 minutes ago, doodlebug said:

JT posted on social media complaining about the hardship of 'parenting 24/7'.  Apparently, the nanny didn't come with him and his wife and son when they retreated to their luxurious Montana home in an exclusive resort.  Can you imagine?  2 parents, having enough money not to have to worry about going to work, having to watch their own preschool age child by themselves?  His son is 5 years old, BTW and perfectly healthy.  More than a few people were upset about his remarks and pointed out to him that there are a lot of single parents with multiple kids, people who have no money coming in while home with their kids, people sheltering in place in tiny apartments and substandard housing.  And, you know, people who have parented their kids 24/7 since birth and aren't impressed that he hasn't.

Shut up, Justin.

Yeah I’m amazed how many people complain about having to spend time with these people they chose to marry and the children they CHOSE TO HAVE!**

Justin Timberlake- please shut up.

** of course I am not talking about people in domestic abuse or violent situations, or who are concerned for their health/survival during this time. 

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Nysha you are doing a good job in a hard situation. 

The whole unemployment thing is seriously goofed up, and that's an understatement in the extreme.  My husband did get his first two weeks of unemployment plus that bump from the feds - but when they tell you to certify and what the website says is two different things.  I knew a bit about filing from my daughter having to file once before, but it's brand new to the husband.  I marked on my calendar the date they gave to certify by, basically I just log in every day for  him and see what the message says.  It may just be a confluence of luck, timing, and stars aligning.  I can't think any of our state governments had systems that were prepped for this overload of claims.  When my daughter had to call the other day for herself it took all day to finally get thru without a disconnect, then an hour wait to talk to a real person, who sounded like she'd had enough for one day, and apologized for asking the same questions again and again.  After my daughter told her that she worked with the public through her employment in a medical practice (but now laid off because her department can't have contact with patients) the rep alluded to having been working several days in a row, no time off, and long shifts.  There's bound to be a wait unfortunately, and to people who need it.  The husband was lucky in that his employer knew up front when their last day was going to be so they encouraged everybody to start filing right away, so I think he squeaked in before the major flood.  

I hit Target early this morning - almost everybody had masks and gloves on.  

  

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19 minutes ago, Marshmallow Mollie said:

Phew, I am so relieved! I had cancer seven years ago, and I had some medical concerns recently that made me think the cancer had returned. I went to the dr this morning, and everything is fine. I had been beside myself with worry, so I am on top of the world now! I feel like I can finally do something other than sit and worry. I had not told anyone, not even my husband, what all I was worried about, so it’s nice to be able to share with my friends here.

I’m so glad you are okay!! And that your mind can ease knowing you’re alright. (((Hugs)))

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1 hour ago, Ijustwantsomechips said:

“We do not want SBA loans,” Spell defended. “We don’t want the government to give us a dime. We are happy to provide for ourselves. Never will our federal or state government put one penny into our church, because the second they do, they control us.”

But please donate your federal stimulus checks

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Just now, GeeGolly said:

But please donate your federal stimulus checks

Right? I always especially love the people who bitch about “nanny state government handouts” while they’re living on Social Security and toodling around on their Medicare-funded scooters.

 

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3 hours ago, Marshmallow Mollie said:

Phew, I am so relieved! I had cancer seven years ago, and I had some medical concerns recently that made me think the cancer had returned. I went to the dr this morning, and everything is fine. I had been beside myself with worry, so I am on top of the world now! I feel like I can finally do something other than sit and worry. I had not told anyone, not even my husband, what all I was worried about, so it’s nice to be able to share with my friends here.

This is awesome news! I'm so happy for you.  I can only imagine how relieved you feel.  Thanks for sharing. 

Has anyone else lost a ring and not known how?  I almost lost one today.  At some point, it came off my finger and was found on the floor!  I had it on last night, but, somehow, it came off my finger. It's a little more loose than it used to be (I must have lost a little more weight), but, it doesn't seem loose enough to just fall off.  Could I have removed it in my sleep?  So strange.  

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1 hour ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Has anyone else lost a ring and not known how?  I almost lost one today.  At some point, it came off my finger and was found on the floor!  I had it on last night, but, somehow, it came off my finger. It's a little more loose than it used to be (I must have lost a little more weight), but, it doesn't seem loose enough to just fall off.  Could I have removed it in my sleep?  So strange. 

Your hands and feet tend to be thinner at night (less bloating), could be that it slipped off as you tossed and turned or put your hand under your pillow. Glad you found it. 

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17 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

Your hands and feet tend to be thinner at night (less bloating), could be that it slipped off as you tossed and turned or put your hand under your pillow. Glad you found it. 

Yeah, I guess.  I had actually taken off another ring last week, because, I thought it felt loose.  Oh well.  I'm going to have to consider if I want to keep wearing them.  I definitely won't wear them out of the house. 

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On 4/19/2020 at 5:04 PM, doodlebug said:

JT posted on social media complaining about the hardship of 'parenting 24/7'.  Apparently, the nanny didn't come with him and his wife and son when they retreated to their luxurious Montana home in an exclusive resort.  Can you imagine?  2 parents, having enough money not to have to worry about going to work, having to watch their own preschool age child by themselves?  His son is 5 years old, BTW and perfectly healthy.  More than a few people were upset about his remarks and pointed out to him that there are a lot of single parents with multiple kids, people who have no money coming in while home with their kids, people sheltering in place in tiny apartments and substandard housing.  And, you know, people who have parented their kids 24/7 since birth and aren't impressed that he hasn't.

Shut up, Justin.

JT has always been a tool. He's just all around obnoxious. He tried to hard to be qUiRkY and it comes off terribly. His wedding photos were all about him. Look at me! Not that you know, he was supposedly marrying the love of his life. 

He hasn't produced any decent music in well over a decade except for the Trolls song.

I am cranky. I need food. 

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10 minutes ago, Temperance said:

Crankiness seems to be in the air. I'm in a bad mood after seeing all those damn social distancing protesters. 🤬  I won't say more, but just everyone should have cause to be mad.

I saw one today where a guy wanted to get rid of social distancing because he has to order two ice teas at the drive through now instead of getting unlimited refills doing dine-in.

OH NO THE HORRORS! 😱😱😱😱😱

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the most idiotic protest sign ever - "Give me Liberty or let me get covid-19"

I think that was from the Pennsylvania capitol protest.

seriously and sadly, some of the protestors are just that stupid

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2 minutes ago, crazy8s said:

the most idiotic protest sign ever - "Give me Liberty or let me get covid-19"

I think that was from the Pennsylvania capitol protest.

seriously and sadly, some of the protestors are just that stupid

I mean. He could go lick a toilet seat in a hospital if he really wants COVID-19.

Would I ever tell him that?

No. Because he would actually do it.

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5 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Yeah, I guess.  I had actually taken off another ring last week, because, I thought it felt loose.  Oh well.  I'm going to have to consider if I want to keep wearing them.  I definitely won't wear them out of the house. 

Several weeks ago, CNN did an article on rings and germs.  They showed how hard it is to wash germs off when wearing rings.  They showed a thermal image of germs after hand washing while wearing a ring, compared to washed hands without a ring.

So I decided to remove my wedding band until this coronavirus is better controlled.

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10 hours ago, Marshmallow Mollie said:

Phew, I am so relieved! I had cancer seven years ago, and I had some medical concerns recently that made me think the cancer had returned. I went to the dr this morning, and everything is fine. I had been beside myself with worry, so I am on top of the world now! I feel like I can finally do something other than sit and worry. I had not told anyone, not even my husband, what all I was worried about, so it’s nice to be able to share with my friends here.

That is wonderful news, Marshmallow Mollie. Such a relief. I’m so happy for you.

 

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I have spent many hours this week supporting a friend from HS (50+ years ago) while his daughter was inconsolable as her Mother was fighting Covid. Sadly she was taken off the vent (after 4 weeks) today. I can’t and don’t even want to imagine how that must feel. (Kudos to the hospital that put her in a hazmat suit and let her hold her Mother’s hand until she passed.) Bless everyone who is dealing with anything because these are not normal times. 😥 

Wishing everyone strength. Stay safe and be well. ❤️

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I was so angry today. People not wearing masks and streets full of kids playing outside. One kid was coughing so hard I went back home. His mother should have kept COVID Johnny home. I stayed home 2 days and just wanted to walk around in the sun. Now I’m scared I got sick from the kid. 

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   I went out for a walk today with my husband. Nether one of us have left our property since March 12. We drove to the park. Besides us, there were just 3 other people wearing masks, and there were lots of people all over the place. And nobody was keeping a social distance. We felt nervous and uncomfortable and left.

 Then I said, let's drive by Wal-Mart..I want to see how they set up the covid testing site I saw on the news (in the town next to us.) It was already gone! WTHeck?! 

 And the parking lot was full to the brim with shoppers...All close together, and only a couple of them wearing masks (we didn't get out of the car.) Somehow I thought people here in Illinois were doing well at all of this.. Now I'm thinking this is going to go on even longer. 😞

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4 hours ago, ChiCricket said:

Now I'm thinking this is going to go on even longer. 😞

I agree. I see these protests and think that they are just germ spreading parties. I don’t even think that it has peaked an all areas in the U.S.  Things are still bad back in Italy and their fight with the virus began long before ours. Sadly, we will be fighting this for a long time. I think y’all made the correct decision to give a pass on going into the park and Walmart. 

Stay safe and be well everyone. 

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That burger stand I mentioned a couple of weeks ago re-opened a few days ago. I saw, while picking up some prescriptions for my mom, that this time the cars were parked with people waiting inside them for their food. Two days later, I had to go back to Mom's house to pick up some things for her (she will be staying with us for the foreseeable future), and while on the way there, I saw that in addition to a fair number of cars, the parking lot was crammed full of at least 40 motorcycles, and, if course, there is no social distancing even possible with that sort of scenario. By the time I was driving back about half an hour later, the police were there closing the place up again. I think the business owners probably did try to enforce the rules, but it got me to thinking what should they do when bikers swarm them like locusts. It was a beautiful day, and the place has always been a biker magnet.

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19 minutes ago, Jynnan tonnix said:

That burger stand I mentioned a couple of weeks ago re-opened a few days ago. I saw, while picking up some prescriptions for my mom, that this time the cars were parked with people waiting inside them for their food. Two days later, I had to go back to Mom's house to pick up some things for her (she will be staying with us for the foreseeable future), and while on the way there, I saw that in addition to a fair number of cars, the parking lot was crammed full of at least 40 motorcycles, and, if course, there is no social distancing even possible with that sort of scenario. By the time I was driving back about half an hour later, the police were there closing the place up again. I think the business owners probably did try to enforce the rules, but it got me to thinking what should they do when bikers swarm them like locusts. It was a beautiful day, and the place has always been a biker magnet.

It seems a little unfair to shut down the place if it was the bikers' fault. Why not ticket the bikers and send them on their way?

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One of our local Italian restaurants has just shut its doors. It is located in a strip shopping center & on the small side. I think most of their business came around dinnertime on Saturday nights after the nearby Catholic church's 5 pm Mass let out.  So with the churches no longer having services and people no longer dining or ordering out as much as they were, I guess they had to close. Hopefully they will reopen when all this is over. They have been there for years & will be greatly missed. They had the best pizza too.

On another note, I'm going for my monthly infusion later today. It will be great to get out even if it's just to the doctors. My infusion is the only thing I go out for since I'm very high risk. It is nice to talk with the nurse & other patients to see how we all are handling things since we're all in the same boat. 

Have a good day everyone & stay safe!

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I have been doing well keeping my work schedule and a routine, but the last few days it’s been SO HARD to get up in the morning. I’m not sick or anything, and I have been going to bed at the usual time but I do not want to get out of bed and get ready to start the day. 
 

I went from morning showers to night showers to give myself more time in the morning. I also set my coffee maker for the night before so I smell the coffee as it’s brewing (which is nice). Anyone else having a hard time getting up for work lately? Once I have had my breakfast I’m okay. For the record I’m a morning person who usually gets up without a problem (so long as I get to bed). 

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13 hours ago, louannems said:

Several weeks ago, CNN did an article on rings and germs.  They showed how hard it is to wash germs off when wearing rings.  They showed a thermal image of germs after hand washing while wearing a ring, compared to washed hands without a ring.

So I decided to remove my wedding band until this coronavirus is better controlled.

I have not worn my wedding ring (or a bra) since this started. And my FitBit is in my sock now.

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1 hour ago, Scarlett45 said:

Anyone else having a hard time getting up for work lately? Once I have had my breakfast I’m okay. For the record I’m a morning person who usually gets up without a problem (so long as I get to bed). 

Oh God yes.  I wake up early naturally but just don't want to get out of bed.  If I didn't have a standing morning appointment (. . . at 11:00) I don't know if I'd ever get up.  This is such a strange time.  

Once I do get up, though, I go for a long, brisk walk back and forth from one end of the house to the other.  (We're not allowed to go outside here except for work or essential purposes.)  From my house to Paris is just over 600 miles, I will probably get there before this confinement ends.  

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20 minutes ago, On the Bias said:

Oh God yes.  I wake up early naturally but just don't want to get out of bed.  If I didn't have a standing morning appointment (. . . at 11:00) I don't know if I'd ever get up.  This is such a strange time.  

Once I do get up, though, I go for a long, brisk walk back and forth from one end of the house to the other.  (We're not allowed to go outside here except for work or essential purposes.)  From my house to Paris is just over 600 miles, I will probably get there before this confinement ends.  

Maybe I should do some sets of stairs in the morning before work. I have been logging on around 7:30am, but it’s a mad dash. 

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2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

It seems a little unfair to shut down the place if it was the bikers' fault. Why not ticket the bikers and send them on their way?

I don't know it it was shut down shut down...they may have just decided to close up for the day and clean things up. I didn't see any more articles on it, so it could we'll have been that the bikers were ticketed. I wish they wouldn't gather in such big groups and spoil things for other people, though 

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