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S19.S08: A Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing


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11 hours ago, mythoughtis said:

Kody was born in 1969. He said he was 55 in the TH.  That means it was filmed in Jan 2024. WTH.  He said he was going to talk to Janelle the next day. We know the land was paid off in 2023. So the editing is all over the place 

 

That drove me nuts — as if the timeline wasn't wonky enough.

I think Kody's friendship with production has affected the producers' judgment.

Generally speaking, the talking/head couch segments (I never know what to call them) are filmed closer to when the new season airs. In other words, while the live-action stuff might be from two years ago, the cast does the couch segment commentaries, not too far in advance of a new season's release.

In the couch segments, the cast is instructed to speak of events as if they're still current/recent (and production does things like put fake pregnancy bellies on women, if they were pregnant in the live-action shoots, but have since given birth) to maintain the fantasy that the couch segments were filmed in real time. I think it's a stupid conceit, but it's long been the way with this show.

However, Kody talked about his 55th birthday in a self-shot video. Since the dawn of Covid, those self-shot videos have been treated the same as the live-action shoots, but as @mythoughtis points out, this one would have been filmed in January 2024, but the live-action stuff is from 2023.

That just mucks up everything. I think production is trying to humanize him, but it's making the narrative worse than it already was. 

 

EDITED: Apparently Kody was born in 1968, not 1969. See here and and here

Thanks @spacefly and @ginger90.

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This show is just background noise for me in the morning now while having my coffee and playing Candy Crush (no way am I staying up until 10pm, lol).

I am happy that Christine has found her man, etc., etc.  I assume this show has nothing else to give the viewers, but enough with Christine and David already.   

And I agree, the timeline is so messy that nothing these people say makes any sense, especially the blather that comes out of Kody's mouth.  Having lunch with Janelle (2023?), he asks why they can't give their love another try, and asks why on earth she would want to lawyer up regarding the land.  Then on the couch ('24?), he tells us that Janelle likes to play the victim and if she builds on Coyote Pass, that would give he and Robyn an excuse to move because who wants to live near their ex-wife?  So even between scenes, Kody is constantly contradicting himself, and none of it makes any sense.

The only thing I am looking forward to next week is the conversation between Meri and Janelle.  If we could get the OG3 talking to each other about their shared experiences married to a raging egomaniac, I am here for that.  But the jumping timelines and wedding prep is both boring and confusing.

Sigh...even this thread is super quiet.  :(

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Like you I slept through the entire show. I'm just watching it now. It's so stupid to have them discuss the wedding plans when Bravo showed the wedding last year. I don't know what they can come up with if there is another season. Hope to God it is not the honeymoon. I will have to skip that.

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Who else watched The Good Place? It occurs to me that Jeremy Bearimy timeline has NOTHING on the KodyMe WoeIsMe timeline.

 

22 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

Having lunch with Janelle (2023?), he asks why they can't give their love another try, and asks why on earth she would want to lawyer up regarding the land.  Then on the couch ('24?), he tells us that Janelle likes to play the victim and if she builds on Coyote Pass, that would give he and Robyn an excuse to move because who wants to live near their ex-wife?  So even between scenes, Kody is constantly contradicting himself, and none of it makes any sense.

 

The couch would have been in 2024, yes. And what's sad about that is, production shows the Browns the scenes they want them to comment on, just before the couch segment. So Kody had a reminder of what he said. 

The whole "have an excuse to move away" thing was weird, too. By that point in time, would he even need an excuse?!

 

22 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

The only thing I am looking forward to next week is the conversation between Meri and Janelle.  If we could get the OG3 talking to each other about their shared experiences married to a raging egomaniac, I am here for that.  But the jumping timelines and wedding prep is both boring and confusing.

 

I said to my husband that the teaser for next week was the only interesting moments of the whole episode.

If I were the producer, my terms for continuing the show (i.e. the Browns' paychecks) would be that at least some mix of the parents would be required to do some couch segments together, and they would have to get together to talk about unraveling the marriages, etc. 

 

14 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

Like you I slept through the entire show. I'm just watching it now. It's so stupid to have them discuss the wedding plans when Bravo showed the wedding last year.

 

The one bit I do find mildly interesting, is that Christine's kids are mostly not shying away from saying, "This is happening too fast." I appreciate their candor, and it must have been difficult for them, because they love their mom, and they do understand how much Kody neglected her (even before Covid). 

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1 hour ago, General Days said:

However, Kody talked about his 55th birthday in a self-shot video. Since the dawn of Covid, those self-shot videos have been treated the same as the live-action shoots, but as @mythoughtis points out, this one would have been filmed in January 2024, but the live-action stuff is from 2023

This has been discussed endlessly on Tik Tok and it has been determined that Kody's public listed birthdate may be wrong @mrskickstand dug up his driving record and it has his birthdate as 1968 on a 2020 speeding tickets. It is also listed as 1968 on a lawsuit.

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The stupidity of Mykelti holding two forks inches away pointing at her daughter’s face while trying to discipline her drove me crazy. One wrong move by either of them meant her daughter would have been struck by them. Could have turned into a disaster.

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1 hour ago, General Days said:

this one would have been filmed in January 2024, but the live-action stuff is from 2023.

He was actually born in 1968. 1969 shows up if you search his birthday for some reason. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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It was absolutely frustrating how Kody refused to talk with Janelle about financial stuff.  As Janelle pointed out, it was mid February and the Coyote Pass property had to be paid off by June which was 3 months away.  She had every right to know what Kody intended to do in regards to paying them off!   Coyote Pass is/was the only thing Janelle was taking from the marriage.  Kody obviously wasn't giving her alimony or child support.  He is such a jerk that he doesn't feel like he owes her one single dollar in the divorce?

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19 minutes ago, spacefly said:

This has been discussed endlessly on Tik Tok and it has been determined that Kody's public listed birthdate may be wrong @mrskickstand dug up his driving record and it has his birthdate as 1968 on a 2020 speeding tickets. It is also listed as 1968 on a lawsuit.

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11 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

He was actually born in 1968. 1969 shows up if you search his birthday for some reason. 🤷🏼‍♀️

 

Thank you both!

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1 hour ago, mythoughtis said:

I’m still palming my face at his various attitudes toward Janelle.   ‘ I was never in love with her, PLEASE take me back, she plays the victim card, she is trying to screw  me over, so I will screw her over, I have to be with Janelle to see the kids’.   Did I miss any of his word salad? 

So much this, and he can also shove his nonsense about wanting to reconcile with his kids but also saying that it's the fault of his ex-wives that his adult kids don't want anything to do with him.  All his playing everyone against each other with poor widdle Kody in the middle is as stale as the hair gel on his head.  He treated his kids like dirt because he was angry at their mothers.  He punished his kids if they didn't revere him like Robyn's brainwashed kids did.  He has stated outright that he never loved Meri, Janelle or Christine.  And yet - he expects his exes to be the catalyst to getting those kids to love him again because he used to be such a great dad.  It's all BS.  At least now, he's being called out on it and it makes him furious.

Enjoy him all to yourself, Robyn. 

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Kody is such a ***! I was shocked he said that the only reason he considered getting back with Jenelle was so he could be back in with the kids. He's so bitter and nasty and his words are so cruel.

The editors were great for showing his talking head, where he blathered that both he and Jenelle had been talking about rekindling, then it cuts to Jenelle's where she says Nope, not happening! 😂 I appreciate her speaking up more and laying it all out instead of the placating or silence that she used to do.

Robyn sat there and lied (again) when she claimed she didn't tattle to Kody about Jenelle. She did NOT tell him that she agreed with J (about keeping the house expenditure on the less expensive side) she went and cried and said J was being mean. Why else would Kody have been mad and gone off on J? He wouldn't have done that if R and J had agreed.

i really appreciate whoever is shooting the scenic B-roll. They are making art with some of their gorgeous shots.

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Love that Kody has painted himself into a corner of NEEDING these women to spend time with him (on camera) to maintain his lifestyle, while they've all moved on.  In his mind, the "aren't we working on the relationship?" script is all he needs to keep Janelle filming with him three hours a year while otherwise ignoring her and their children entirely, but it only works if she doesn't say "nah, what would I want that for?" Deviation from his script is treason.

Now he has to stress how good he is with Meri now, looks great for their future!  (And even she isn't going to run over and hang out at their place to film when she hasn't otherwise gotten an invitation in two years. )

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4 hours ago, laurakaye said:

The only thing I am looking forward to next week is the conversation between Meri and Janelle.  If we could get the OG3 talking to each other about their shared experiences married to a raging egomaniac, I am here for that.  But the jumping timelines and wedding prep is both boring and confusing.

This 100%,  I've seen a lot of tv in my long life, but I have never seen a show that airs a courtship storyline the season AFTER it aired the wedding.  This is the most ridiculous show and I am totally over Christine gushing about her beau.  I'm going to continue to fast forward or walk away to do something else during these scenes, just like I do when Teen Mom airs segments about women who were never even pregnant in their teens. 

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43 minutes ago, kassa said:

Now he has to stress how good he is with Meri now, looks great for their future!  (And even she isn't going to run over and hang out at their place to film when she hasn't otherwise gotten an invitation in two years. )

For real - can't keep up the charade if the OG3 have peaced out on Kody's a$$.  And did I hear him mumble something like, "I don't have anything bad to say about Meri?"  If he did indeed say that AFTER he found out that his ponytail was actually NOT enough to keep Janelle panting after him, then that's hysterical.  He has saved his worst vitriol for Meri and now he's cool with her?  He has no hold on Christine anymore, but I can absolutely see him trying to ping-pong in between Janelle and Meri for some scraps of their attention (how ironic) because Kody Brown is literally nothing without more than one woman fighting over him.  

Also, the place where Janelle and Kody met - that was the scene of the four wives meeting for lunch a few seasons ago, and someone pretended to stab someone else with a fork.  I also remember that they all drove there in separate cars and that Janelle did not want to go at all, lol.  Good times.  

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55 minutes ago, suzeecat said:

I am totally over Christine gushing about her beau

Me, too.  I’m glad she was able to leave Kody and happy for her in her new relationship.  But c’mon already, stop acting like a bratty 12 year old in the throes of a junior high school crush.  You’re 50 years old, Schmoopie, and it’s not a good look.

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1 hour ago, TomGirl said:

Me, too.  I’m glad she was able to leave Kody and happy for her in her new relationship.  But c’mon already, stop acting like a bratty 12 year old in the throes of a junior high school crush.  You’re 50 years old, Schmoopie, and it’s not a good look.

Me three.  The giggling.  The “looks of desire”.  The sloppy kissing.  It is too much, way more than I want to see.  

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4 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

What did you think of Meri’s renovation?  Is that real white washed brick or wallpaper?  

I liked it. I love old, unusual spaces like an old carriage house.

I liked most of the thoughts Meri expressed in her segment, although I have to say, I just don't care about Meri's friends. I suppose TLC thinks there has to be someone on-screen for Meri to interact with, but I just don't care about a bunch of new people. Same for David. He's nice and all but I just don't care. They're not original members of the show, and there's already a ton of kids/grandkids to keep track of on this show.

I liked Meri's attitude about dating. She'll be ready when she's ready, and she seems to be taking time for herself to get over the end to a very long, difficult marriage.

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Is Christine bordering on insufferable?

Spoiler: yes.

Is she like that kind of weird, socially awkward girl you knew in high school who finally found a boyfriend and then spent all her time making out with him during passing period?

Spoiler: also yes.

BUT. Every time Kody "I got kicked out of my own club and by the way does anyone have a spare kidney" Brown opens his mouth to tell us just how much he doesn't care about Christine (a lie), how much he's NEVER cared about Christine (also probably a lie), how completely unattracted he is to her (except for the 6 times he put a baby in her), and how he wanted her to go find her soulmate the day after she left him (absolutely, definitely a lie)...

I find myself having just a smidge more patience for Celia and her Googly Bear.

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I am so beyond tired of hearing Kody talk about his wives "betraying" him.  It seems to me that he was the one who betrayed them by ignoring them and their children for years while lavishing his favorite wife with everything her heart desires.  Why would he care that they left?  He left THEM years ago.  He just wanted the polygamy facade for the show and the money it brings.  The only thing I want to see regarding the future of the show is some karma for Kody and Robyn.

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For some reason Christine didn't bother me as much on this episode as she has previously.  If you contrast her to Kody she is just so happy and he's just so miserable - the only thing that would make it better is if he was forced to watch her on repeat all the time...but he would manage to make it all about himself.

Boy is he trying to backtrack and fix his image!  Were there even any scenes of him and Robin together this episode - a few shots of the Robin family together but no him and Robin alone.

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I know Christine has dumped her belief in polygamy, but do we know just what her faith-based beliefs are now?  I'm wondering this because I had a mormon friend tell me once that one of the reasons they get married so quick is because they want to have sex. C & D may be in such a hurry to get hitched because they're horny as hell, but want to wait until marriage.  So maybe that's why she's so hung-up on making out with him, because that's all they're doing until the wedding night?  I don't know, but both the obsession over PDA's, and the speed at which this is moving, is weird as hell.  Especially considering how her kids feel about it. They aren't being unreasonable at all. 

Also, why are Kody and Janelle dining in someone's finished attic? 😆

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I think I have a different take on the show than most.   Since I know that reality tv is anything but, watching old events isn’t a problem for me.  It’s new to me, even if it happened months ago.  Movies, series, fiction, etc, are aired years later too, so I don’t mind that much.  It sometimes helps gain perspective on what transpired later on.  Sometimes, we know what’s coming and the feeling is ominous.  
 

I also don’t mind Christine and David’s PDA! Lol. I get it.  For me, just because you’re older, your proclivities don’t change.  You feel the same on the inside as when you were much younger.  I say celebrate those hormones! The older I get, the more I say s*#w the rules. 🤣I have used discretion when being around my boyfriend and boyfriend’s 20 year old daughter, but that’s just me. He was much more relaxed about it.  I’m starting to lighten up.
 

I wonder if things with K and R have improved since these episodes were filmed.  If not, it seems bleak.  I wonder if his renewed commitment to God has helped.  To me, his behavior is exhausting.  He’s definitely a different person to me. 

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8 hours ago, eskimo said:

C & D may be in such a hurry to get hitched because they're horny as hell, but want to wait until marriage. 

At one point, Tony made a joking comment on camera that the third date isn't for a first kiss, it was for sex.

A very interesting look passed between Christine and David as in, "Yep.  Made that milestone."

JMO.

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2 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

His renewed commitment to God?? When did this happen? 

If you asked Kody, you'd get one of the following three answers.  Today.  Tomorrow, something different.  The day after tomorrow, the only remaining choice.

1.  "What do you mean renewed commitment?  I always have and always will rely heavily on my faith."

2.  "What do you mean renewed commitment?  Religion is all a bunch of bull****."

3.  "I struggle daily to maintain a steady walk with Father God.  Some days I do better than others.  But I try daily to be the head of a household of faith."

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10 hours ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

I am so beyond tired of hearing Kody talk about his wives "betraying" him.  It seems to me that he was the one who betrayed them by ignoring them and their children for years while lavishing his favorite wife with everything her heart desires.  Why would he care that they left?  He left THEM years ago.  He just wanted the polygamy facade for the show and the money it brings.  The only thing I want to see regarding the future of the show is some karma for Kody and Robyn.

All of this.  Resting Asshole Face and his sidekick need some karma to atone for their evil deeds.

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1 hour ago, AZChristian said:

At one point, Tony made a joking comment on camera that the third date isn't for a first kiss, it was for sex.

A very interesting look passed between Christine and David as in, "Yep.  Made that milestone."

JMO.

Probably, and I caught that as well. Lol. I'm just giving my brain a workout trying to figure out what the warp-speed rush is. 🤔 😆

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Davis isn't a spring chicken and although younger neither is Christine.  Perhaps they just feel that there is no reason to wait (and I also think they want to live together so they can do laundry any time they want...LOL!). Christine still has a relatively young daughter in the house so if they had already commenced an intimate relationship I hope they would have been discrete.

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Christine is fully annoying me right now.  I know she’s in love and obviously has never felt this intense love with anyone before but omg calm down!  It’s making me cringe.

And something is bothering me about David, can’t put my finger on it.

 

Did I spot the Lehi Roller Mills?!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_Roller_Mills#:~:text=The Lehi Roller Mills became,Lithgow%2C and Sarah Jessica Parker.

The big dance at the end of Footloose was filmed there!  
 

eta- hope it was this show.. there are so many shows I’m watching that are filmed in Utah, I get confused.

 

 

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Christine is fully annoying me right now.  I know she’s in love and obviously has never felt this intense love with anyone before but omg calm down!  It’s making me cringe.

I never liked Christine much, but she often gets a pass because of the crap that comes out of Kody's mouth. Christine parentified her kids years ago, and she continues to treat them as friends/equals by making out with her new boyfriend in front of them. She doesn't even care that Ysabel is uncomfortable. I would never be interested in any Christine/David or Christine/Janelle spinoff series. 

Kody sounded like a huge ass in his talking heads during his meeting with Janelle. He basically admitted he is just playing/manipulating everyone, and is using asking to reconcile with Janelle as part of that. Then he wonders why his kids don't speak to him. 

I don't see how we have a storyline past this season, unless they go into the issues between Christine and Kody. Which isn't likely. Half the show has become Christine and David, and I just fast-forward through it. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I’m thinking Christine is working through age regression, which can include overly clingy or dependent behavior.

I feel for her as much as a stranger can I suppose, and I hope this will all work out to be a healthy relationship. Do I want to watch what they’re showing now? “Gosh” no.

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54 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

I’m thinking Christine is working through age regression, which can include overly clingy or dependent behavior.

I feel for her as much as a stranger can I suppose, and I hope this will all work out to be a healthy relationship. Do I want to watch what they’re showing now? “Gosh” no.

You can really see how stunted she is due to her upbringing.  I will be glad when that resolves itself.  

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On 11/4/2024 at 1:07 PM, kassa said:

Love that Kody has painted himself into a corner of NEEDING these women to spend time with him (on camera) to maintain his lifestyle, while they've all moved on.  In his mind, the "aren't we working on the relationship?" script is all he needs to keep Janelle filming with him three hours a year while otherwise ignoring her and their children entirely, but it only works if she doesn't say "nah, what would I want that for?" Deviation from his script is treason.

 

I actually felt like maybe he and Janelle talked on the phone, or whatever, ahead of the restaurant meeting, and he told her they should discuss that (perhaps just to string their storyline along), and Janelle didn't argue with him, she just did what she wanted and got straight to the point: BUY ME OUT!

 

14 hours ago, eskimo said:

I know Christine has dumped her belief in polygamy, but do we know just what her faith-based beliefs are now?  I'm wondering this because I had a mormon friend tell me once that one of the reasons they get married so quick is because they want to have sex. C & D may be in such a hurry to get hitched because they're horny as hell, but want to wait until marriage.

 

I think she still has some sort of a faith in God. Some months ago, I remember her seeing asking people for Bible recommendations on her Facebook.

That said, I am pretty sure she and David were living together before they got married. I seem to recall Kody mentioning that last season (and he wasn't crazy about the idea of Truely living with an unmarried couple). Also, it seems to me Christine posted some pictures of love notes she and David left each other on their bathroom mirror — and this was before they got married.

So, I think it's likely they were intimate before marriage. Lots of people don't live up to their religion's standards on all kinds of things, but especially sex. Also, if she's not part of any particular church right now, she just might not have had it top of mind. 

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38 minutes ago, General Days said:

I actually felt like maybe he and Janelle talked on the phone, or whatever, ahead of the restaurant meeting, and he told her they should discuss that (perhaps just to string their storyline along), and Janelle didn't argue with him, she just did what she wanted and got straight to the point: BUY ME OUT!

I thought the same thing and it is similar to Meri wanting Kody to make his I-don't-want-to-be-married-to-her views known in front of the camera at the picnic table. If it didn't happen on camera, Kody will say it never happened.

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3 hours ago, Denize said:

I thought the same thing and it is similar to Meri wanting Kody to make his I-don't-want-to-be-married-to-her views known in front of the camera at the picnic table. If it didn't happen on camera, Kody will say it never happened.

Sometimes even if it did happen on camera he will say it didn't.  Like the conversation with Gabe that we saw that he claimed never happened.

I don't believe for a minute Christine and David waited until marriage to get to it.  They were both horny as could be and poor Truely was so uncomfortable.  Particularly when Tony had to bring up sex.  Tony is such a clod.  I also could have done without Paedon mocking his grandfather's age related disability.  Dude, you might be there where it takes you 10 minutes to get out of a chair someday.

I agree with what has been said about the Kody and Janelle discussion.  I loved that she just laid it on the line while he is blathering in the talking heads about how they keep talking about reconciling.  He looked so delusional there.  I was very concerned at the level of rage he seems to have toward Maddie.  Where is that coming from?  The lunch was several months after Logan's wedding where he found out she was pregnant and hadn't told him.  I liked that Janelle told him to go work it out himself that she wasn't going to get in the middle of it.  Dude, she isn't Robyn.  She isn't going to force her kids to love you when you have acted like this.  Because I'm nosy, I do wonder what went on between Maddie and Kody that caused her to go no contact.

Finally, I liked how Meri reacted to the renovation of the carriage house.  Kody has always tried to portray her as mean and ungrateful, and she wasn't that way at all.  I liked what she said about making her own table rather than chasing after people who don't want her.  Good for her.

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Finally, I liked how Meri reacted to the renovation of the carriage house.  Kody has always tried to portray her as mean and ungrateful, and she wasn't that way at all.  I liked what she said about making her own table rather than chasing after people who don't want her.  Good for her.

I think that neither Meri or Christine were cut out for polygamy, despite how they were raised. Meri reacted to an additional wife (who was also her brother's ex) with jealousy and controlling/manipulative behavior. Christine reacted by trying to get more of her husband's time and mostly rejecting Robyn from the start. In different environments, they both behave very differently. I'm glad we are seeing a different side of Meri. 

Polygamy assumes that someone can get past the jealousy of having to share a spouse (especially when the sharing isn't even equal). Not everyone can do that. Janelle seems cut out for polygamy though, because she seems to love time to herself and the ability to make all her own decisions. I think all 3 ex-wives are happier and better off without Kody. 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, precious pupp said:

Paedon is going to be damned lucky to go through life without some disability.

And what was that about, calling David "Richard?"  Was that an old people joke that I (old lady) didn't get?

He's a lot like his sperm donor, IMO.  Not good.

I think it was a sly way to call him Dick.

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3 hours ago, ginger90 said:

I’m not understanding this.

Sorry if it's not clear.  Age related illnesses and accidents are things that many of us have to live with.  Lucky are the people who are in great shape when they are elderly.

Added:  someone posted that David has a disability, and if true, ageism and making fun of those things is not good.

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