S06.E19: A New Weather Girl and a Stay-at-Home Coddler

[Bort]

Mandy gets an exciting job opportunity and Sheldon worries that he’s falling behind. Also, Georgie takes his daughter to work.

Airdate: May 4, 2023

[ItCouldBeWorse]

Oh boy.  Mandy would have leaked even more the day before her audition, when she was away from the baby ALL DAY!  That would have made her realize that she needed to nurse, pump or express right before she left for her audition, and also that she needed to wear nursing pads, which would have absorbed the excess milk.

She even said the day before how much she missed Ceecee.  She would definitely have leaked then.

I did realize where this was going as soon as I saw her in the satin shirt.

There's no way around it, though.  Unless Mandy has a job just for a few hours a day, she and Georgie will absolutely need to hire someone to watch Ceecee.

Edited May 5, 2023 by ItCouldBeWorse

[shapeshifter]

18 minutes ago, ItCouldBeWorse said:

Oh boy.  Mandy would have leaked even more the day before her audition, when she was away from the baby ALL DAY!  That would have made her realize that she needed to nurse, pump or express right before she left for her audition, and also that she needed to wear nursing pads, which would have absorbed the excess milk.

She even said the day before how much she missed Cece.  She would definitely have leaked then.

Yes. I could not believe she was not wearing nursing pads. 
Dumb writers.

[Spartan Girl]

How embarrassing for Mandy. Why didn’t she wear pads?

Well, the chickens are coming home to roost for Mary coddling Sheldon. Glad someone called her out on it, even if Sheldon was just blaming everyone else for his problems instead of taking some responsibility. He did own up to it at the end, sort of, so there’s that.

I had to laugh at Adult Sheldon cutting in when George said he’d probably never have kids: “Joke’s on him! I did have them. But jokes on me too they say (that I ruined their lives) all the time.”

[kay1864]

Is it BBT canon that Sheldon went to Heidelberg?

[ams1001]

1 minute ago, kay1864 said:

Is it BBT canon that Sheldon went to Heidelberg?

Yes, but as a visiting professor (at 15, I believe), not a student.

[SoMuchTV]

28 minutes ago, ItCouldBeWorse said:

 

I did realize where this was going as soon as I saw her in the satin shirt.

I saw that blouse and thought, they really wouldn’t go there, right?  Sadly, I was wrong. 

But that continues to be a cute baby. I hope Georgie had a supply of diaper wipes for the head rubbers. 

[Bethany]

17 minutes ago, ams1001 said:

Yes, but as a visiting professor (at 15, I believe), not a student.

And in the episode where this was referenced George is still living and Mary has to go back to Texas to help because the house slid off the cinder blocks again!  So yeah, canon is whatever the current writers want to pick and choose from I guess.

[Bethany]

Ok, the Sheldon plotline - seriously?  Mary and George did not mention, even once, that Sheldon leaving home for grad school at 14 (presumably) was not going to happen.  The focus was on Mary coddling him up to that point?  Although it was nice to see them chatting together as if all the previous episodes angst was over.  I did love Missy and Dr. Linklater being totally supportive though!  Dr. Linklater "that's German for I'll help you pack" 😀!

[Chit Chat]

Finally, an episode where Sheldon learns that his "young genius" status alone isn't enough to get him into the most prestigious schools in the country.  He's actually going to have to do the work!  

Montana Jordan is so sweet with the baby!  He seems genuinely fond of her.  

[3 is enough]

Speaking from experience nursing pads are not always enough to stop leaks. 

[rmontro]

5 hours ago, Elizabeth Anne said:

And in the episode where this was referenced George is still living and Mary has to go back to Texas to help because the house slid off the cinder blocks again!  

Guess they'd better get that house up on cinder blocks fast  😄

[greekmom]

It's getting a bit tedious.  I rather watch Georgie and Missy more than Sheldon.

[appositival]

I was hoping that they would have the gamblers touch the baby's foot instead of the soft spot over her brain!

Sheldon could probably write a scholarly paper all by himself but he isn't actually creative enough to think of a subject. Remembering everything and math skills aren't the same as the ability to invent anything new. When he became an adult he just followed the crowd and studied string theory. For example, if he could prove mathematically that anti-gravity was impossible, he would be famous.

 

[juno]

Trying to figure out why they continue to treat Georgie like crap on this show. He is probably the best character but every chance they get they kick this poor guy. I am still hoping they will make Mandy a bit less miserable and have her treat Georgie a bit better. She is really an unlikeable character.

They don't seem to know what to do with Sheldon anymore.

[Tom Holmberg]

Are the episodes getting shorter every week or is it just that most of the plot lines are just meh?

7 minutes ago, juno said:

They don't seem to know what to do with Sheldon anymore.

Yes, this!

[proserpina65]

1 hour ago, juno said:

She is really an unlikeable character.

I like her just fine.  Not thrilled with the whole pregnancy storyline, but the character is okay.  And I totally was on her side with this episode.  She has every right to seek out a job/career beyond being a mother.

I loved seeing Sheldon find out he wasn't nearly as special as he thought and loved seeing Mary realized that her coddling of him has done more harm than good.

[Bethany]

3 hours ago, juno said:

They don't seem to know what to do with Sheldon anymore.

They're acknowledging that he's aging out of the child prodigy phase (and about time) but Sheldon is still a genius who will go on to win the "prestigious Stevenson Award" at 15 and will be highly thought of at Caltech (which is nothing to sneeze at). 

I agree with you though that they don't seem to know how to make the transition from child prodigy to boy genius to adult who has "one of the great minds of our time" (as Sheldon will modestly tell you he is)! 

BBT already had that last stage of his life pretty much covered.  The upcoming years for young Sheldon are the ones I didn't really want to see - when he moves away from a loving, if imperfect family, and becomes the lonely weird guy who seems to have really struggled until he met Leonard.  Not a lot of comedy in that.

[kwnyc]

Georgie is still in the garage? Since Meemaw is still making money with her three (two legit, one illegal) businesses, she could certainly pay her grandson enough to rent an apartment that's suitable for keeping a baby. Come on, Meemaw!

 

[Bethany]

5 minutes ago, kwnyc said:

Georgie is still in the garage? Since Meemaw is still making money with her three (two legit, one illegal) businesses, she could certainly pay her grandson enough to rent an apartment that's suitable for keeping a baby. Come on, Meemaw!

 

I never even picked up on that!  Georgie tries to discourage Mandy from pursuing the job opportunity and one of the things he tells her is he's making enough money to keep them going.  Well, sure if he stays in the family garage and Mandy and the baby live (rent free?) with MeeMaw (who also picked up the tab for Mandy's new outfit for her interview). 

What kind of money is Georgie actually making and could he really support a family on it?  Hmm maybe this is the storyline that leads us to Georgie working for Mandy's father.

Edited May 5, 2023 by Elizabeth Anne

[Sarah 103]

16 hours ago, ams1001 said:

Yes, but as a visiting professor (at 15, I believe), not a student.

Why can't both be true? The summer Sheldon is 13 he does the summer program in Germany, and then two years later when he is 15 he a visiting professor

22 minutes ago, Elizabeth Anne said:

They're acknowledging that he's aging out of the child prodigy phase (and about time) but Sheldon is still a genius who will go on to win the "prestigious Stevenson Award" at 15 and will be highly thought of at Caltech (which is nothing to sneeze at). 

I agree with you though that they don't seem to know how to make the transition from child prodigy to boy genius to adult who has "one of the great minds of our time" (as Sheldon will modestly tell you he is)! 

BBT already had that last stage of his life pretty much covered.  The upcoming years for young Sheldon are the ones I didn't really want to see - when he moves away from a loving, if imperfect family, and becomes the lonely weird guy who seems to have really struggled until he met Leonard.  Not a lot of comedy in that.

I don't think we will see that part of Sheldon's life. When he leaves for Germany at age 15, either the series is done or they continue on without Sheldon. 

[I Want My MBTV]

3 hours ago, proserpina65 said:

I like her just fine.  Not thrilled with the whole pregnancy storyline, but the character is okay.  And I totally was on her side with this episode.  She has every right to seek out a job/career beyond being a mother.

While I agree with this I did think it was rude and presumptuous of her to just expect the Coopers to take care of CeeCee while she did this. She didn't even discuss it with them.  Nor did she mention anything to Georgie before dropping the baby off with him when she went shopping with MeeMaw.  Not saying that Georgie shouldn't share parenting duties but if one or both parents have jobs outside the home you can't just give them the baby as they're walking out the door. And Mandy knows where he works and she was with the only other employee there so what did she think was going to happen?  Where do her parents live?  I know she doesn't have the best relationship with them but why can't they help out too?  

Also, Georgie is very young and I can understand why she doesn't want to marry him but I don't like the way she kind of strings him along.  In general I don't care for her. 

[AD35]

17 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

I had to laugh at Adult Sheldon cutting in when George said he’d probably never have kids: “Joke’s on him! I did have them. But jokes on me too they say (that I ruined their lives) all the time.”

I'm still holding out hope that we'll hear from one of them before the show ends.

[proserpina65]

9 minutes ago, I Want My MBTV said:

While I agree with this I did think it was rude and presumptuous of her to just expect the Coopers to take care of CeeCee while she did this. She didn't even discuss it with them.  Nor did she mention anything to Georgie before dropping the baby off with him when she went shopping with MeeMaw.  Not saying that Georgie shouldn't share parenting duties but if one or both parents have jobs outside the home you can't just give them the baby as they're walking out the door. And Mandy knows where he works and she was with the only other employee there so what did she think was going to happen?  Where do her parents live?  I know she doesn't have the best relationship with them but why can't they help out too?  

Also, Georgie is very young and I can understand why she doesn't want to marry him but I don't like the way she kind of strings him along.  In general I don't care for her. 

Fair points, both of them.  I imagine Mandy figured that Georgie actually can take CC to work with him, given the very untraditional job he has.  But assuming the Coopers will automatically be able to take care of the baby all the time is presumptuous and child care is definitely something she should have a more solid plan for going forward.

[Bethany]

It does seem presumptuous but on the other hand why does all the child care planning fall to Mandy?  The senior Coopers plus Georgie wanted that baby.  Well she's here now.   Does that mean they should back off and expect Mandy to be the only one who has to plan a life around caring for her?  The show didn't handle this well IMO but Mandy wasn't wrong to expect a little support.

[HyeChaps]

If she gets the job, her mother may come back to help. 

[juno]

But Georgie agrees at the last minute even though he is at work and still gets no appreciation from Mandy. She even gives him heck for the baby smelling like smoke. Duh, he works in a casino (ish).

She berates the guy every chance she gets and does not seem to appreciate anything he does for her. Makes it hard to watch.

As the brilliant Ron Swanson says, "When you have a fish on the line, you don't just drag it behind the boat. You either reel it in, or you cut him loose. Especially if he's a nice fish with a big lovable fish heart."

Mandy needs to cut this nice fish loose.

[MollyMelrose]

A moment of self-awareness for Mary, a necessary step in the transformation to the BBT mom who knew how to handle Sheldon, regardless of the bushwa he was spewing.

George pointing out that Sheldon was actually acting like a normal teen - good stuff. (And boy howdy, do I hope Sheldon's kids give it to him with both barrels!!)

Loved Missy. Not many lines, but some of the best. Think she and Dr. Linkletter could have an epic discussion about her brother.

 

[appositival]

50 minutes ago, AD35 said:

I'm still holding out hope that we'll hear from one of them before the show ends.

We could find out that this is like "How I met your Mother", and Sheldon has been reciting this to his kids on the long drive from LA to Texas. That's one way to ruin their lives.

[UsernameFatigue]

2 hours ago, Sarah 103 said:

 

I don't think we will see that part of Sheldon's life. When he leaves for Germany at age 15, either the series is done or they continue on without Sheldon. 

I am ready now for the series to transform from "Young Sheldon" to "The Coopers".

While I liked Iain Armitage's portrayal of Sheldon in the earlier seasons, it has become progressively more wooden as the series continues. I think it is a combination of the storylines (agree that they don't know what to do with him) and the actor himself. When I watch the show, I am usually annoyed when Sheldon is on the screen, and find the interactions with Dr. Linkletter et al a waste of precious  time that I would prefer be given to pretty much any other character/combination of characters on the show. 

Edited May 5, 2023 by UsernameFatigue

[Tom Holmberg]

8 minutes ago, UsernameFatigue said:

I am ready now for the series to transform from "Young Sheldon" to "The Coopers".

I'm not sure if Sandy Duncan would want the role.

[freeser]

3 minutes ago, UsernameFatigue said:

While I liked Iain Armitage's portrayal of Sheldon in the earlier seasons, it has become progressively more wooden as the series continues. I think it is a combination of the storylines (agree that they don't know what to do with him) and the actor himself. 

Thank you for the word "wooden"!  I couldn't come up with a better description of Iain's acting now.  He appears and just seems to spout off whatever dialogue he has - then turns away.  What happened to a little bit of emotion?  But frankly so much of the dialogue he is given makes the poor kid seem more obnoxious each time he speaks.  The combination of his wooden acting and the way they are writing his part, makes for a very forgettable character.  I like just about everyone else in the show better than Iain.  He started off so interesting.  It is sad it has come to this.  

[bad things are bad]

1 hour ago, Tom Holmberg said:

not sure if Sandy Duncan would want the role

"Sheldon's Family"?

[Sarah 103]

3 hours ago, Elizabeth Anne said:

It does seem presumptuous but on the other hand why does all the child care planning fall to Mandy?  The senior Coopers plus Georgie wanted that baby.  Well she's here now.   Does that mean they should back off and expect Mandy to be the only one who has to plan a life around caring for her?  The show didn't handle this well IMO but Mandy wasn't wrong to expect a little support.

Mandy wanted the baby and she wanted to keep the baby. The Coopers did not force her or guilt trip her into having and keeping the baby so the baby is to some extent Mandy's responsibility. It should have been more of a conversation with Mary and George with an ask as opposed to an assumption that they would take care of the baby, especially since Mandy knows that both parents have paying jobs outside the home. Expecting support is one thing, but I don't think she went about it the right way. 

2 hours ago, MollyMelrose said:

Loved Missy. Not many lines, but some of the best. Think she and Dr. Linkletter could have an epic discussion about her brother.

I did not know I wanted a scene or scenes with Dr. Linkletter and Missy alone until this moment, but now it is something that I absolutely need to see. Also, Missy and the Dean could be equally amusing. 

[Katy M]

3 hours ago, I Want My MBTV said:

While I agree with this I did think it was rude and presumptuous of her to just expect the Coopers to take care of CeeCee while she did this. She didn't even discuss it with them.  Nor did she mention anything to Georgie before dropping the baby off with him when she went shopping with MeeMaw.  Not saying that Georgie shouldn't share parenting duties but if one or both parents have jobs outside the home you can't just give them the baby as they're walking out the door. And Mandy knows where he works and she was with the only other employee there so what did she think was going to happen?  Where do her parents live?  I know she doesn't have the best relationship with them but why can't they help out too?  

Also, Georgie is very young and I can understand why she doesn't want to marry him but I don't like the way she kind of strings him along.  In general I don't care for her. 

On another board, a poster was quite adamant that Mary and George are too selfish to help out and that anyone else would have droped everything and taken the day off of work to watch the baby.

[januaryman]

I liked Dr. Linkletter standing up to Sheldon. Age-related Sheldon stories would be amusing. It would be fun to see him taken down by puberty again, but they probably won't go there. 

I wish the director would break Iain out of his mugging and mannerisms and facial contortions he now puts into every line.

[Bethany]

40 minutes ago, Sarah 103 said:

Expecting support is one thing, but I don't think she went about it the right way. 

Absolutely agree.  The writing on this point was weak to say the least.

My point though in the larger scheme of things is that she may be the baby's mother but it takes a village.  She's a single parent and the father lives in his parents garage.  It's not unreasonable for her to want to get a good paying job and that the Coopers would want to help.  But it was unreasonable for her to expect people with jobs to be able to spin on a dime - which leads me to wondering where Meemaw was.  She was available to take Mandy shopping and voice her support for Mandy at least going to the interview so why couldn't she babysit?  Did I blink and miss something?

Edited May 5, 2023 by Elizabeth Anne

[appositival]

3 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

While I liked Iain Armitage's portrayal of Sheldon in the earlier seasons, it has become progressively more wooden as the series continues.

I suspect that Iain acts that way because that is what TPTB wants. When he had the dream where he played all the characters in his family, he wasn't wooden at all. He really should be moving closer to emulating Jim Parsons, who had a more relaxed style (and a Texas accent) even while always remaining pedantic.

[Kaycee]

Sheldons parents should strongly consider sending Sheldon to Germany for the summer. Sheldon would mature and learn to do things for himself without Mary doing things for him. He is learning the hard way that being special is not going to open doors for you out in the real world.

Mandy is a single parent who in this world needs to find employment to support her child and herself. This means also arranging for babysitting by someone either paid or free while she is out working or going on job interviews. Not dumping the baby on someone who has to go to work at the last moment. Georgie and Mandy are not married, her choice but Coopers are paying for not only the baby but for her to. At Mandy's age she needs to take responsibility for her situation, actions, and be held accountable for her decisions. You have to give in life, not just be a taker. 

[jalady]

Just curious: has Georgie graduated from high school, or did he drop out?  I forget.  Thanks!

[ams1001]

5 hours ago, Sarah 103 said:

Why can't both be true? The summer Sheldon is 13 he does the summer program in Germany, and then two years later when he is 15 he a visiting professor

Could be... I was just answering the question about BBT canon, but it's possible he could have gone there twice. It's in an episode where Sheldon gets sick (with predictable whiny results) and Penny asks him if he's never been sick before. He says he got sick when he was 15 in Germany, and she asks, "Studying abroad?" and he responds with "No, visiting professor." (Followed by more than I needed to know about the results of him not being used to the food.)

1 minute ago, jalady said:

Just curious: has Georgie graduated from high school, or did he drop out?  I forget.  Thanks!

He dropped out.

 

[aqusdealer]

14 hours ago, appositival said:

For example, if he could prove mathematically that anti-gravity was impossible, he would be famous.

If that's true, how did the Coral Castle in Florida get built? It HAS to be possible. I read it on the Internet and before that in comic books! 😉

[nilyank]

On 5/5/2023 at 6:59 PM, ams1001 said:

Penny asks him if he's never been sick before. He says he got sick when he was 15 in Germany, and she asks, "Studying abroad?" and he responds with "No, visiting professor."

Myabe Sheldon was actually visiting a professor.

Edited May 7, 2023 by nilyank

[kay1864]

4 hours ago, ams1001 said:

Followed by more than I needed to know about the results of him not being used to the food.

I had to look it up:

Anyway, the local cuisine was a little more sausage-based than I’m used to, and the result was an internal blitzkrieg with my lower intestine playing the part of Czechoslovakia.

[madpsych78]

On 5/5/2023 at 2:06 PM, appositival said:

We could find out that this is like "How I met your Mother", and Sheldon has been reciting this to his kids on the long drive from LA to Texas. That's one way to ruin their lives.

Actually...that would be a great series finale! And totally in character for Sheldon as he tends to talk ad nauseum to whoever is in the car with him.

[nelroy78]

On 5/4/2023 at 8:56 PM, kay1864 said:

Is it BBT canon that Sheldon went to Heidelberg?

 

On 5/4/2023 at 8:59 PM, ams1001 said:

Yes, but as a visiting professor (at 15, I believe), not a student.

They are moving the tornado and the Germany trip up by 2 years because George has to be alive because Mary goes back to help George with the house after the tornado, only it won’t be on cinder blocks, presumably fixing a plot hole. He could go back at 15 though.

Edited May 7, 2023 by nelroy78

[Sarah 103]

On 5/6/2023 at 8:06 PM, nelroy78 said:

They are moving the tornado and the Germany trip up by 2 years because George has to be alive because Mary goes back to help George with the house after the tornado, only it won’t be on cinder blocks, presumably fixing a plot hole. He could go back at 15 though.

I don't think they moved the trip up because I it's two different trips. This is a program for students. In two years he goes back as a visiting professor. 

[tennisgurl]

I knew right away what was going to happen the minute Mandy got in front of that screen, oh that was some cringe. I'm all for Mandy going back to work, especially as its something she really loves, but that really is something she needs to talk to Georgie about. Or even the rest of the Coopers if she's expecting them to take care of the baby more often. I'm sure that they would love to help, you just have to make plans.

Always enjoy watching Sheldon getting brought down one tiny peg as he realized that being a kid genius wouldn't be enough for him to have every door easily opened for him when he's in a sea of brilliant students. While Sheldon mostly used it as an excuse not to take any personal responsibility, I am glad that they called Mary out for how she's spoiled Sheldon. 

Should have used whiskey...

[possibilities]

Do we know why Mandy lost her previous job? She seemed really good at it, so now I'm wondering what went wrong at the previous place. 

[proserpina65]

11 hours ago, possibilities said:

Do we know why Mandy lost her previous job? She seemed really good at it, so now I'm wondering what went wrong at the previous place. 

I thought she said it was so that someone higher up could give his girlfriend the job.