S13.E05: The Klum Of Doom

[Oholibamah]

For the first time this season, I disagree with Amanda's placement in the Top 3 from an aesthetic perspective. It was sort of ugly. However I appreciate what she said about tasking a risk when you have immunity: not enough designers do this. Even though I technically liked Sandhya and Samantha's dresses better, they were such cliche approaches to eveningwear. I appreciate that Amanda tried something weird, and it's not like her 3rd place dress really beat anything particularly spectacular. (Although, for the umpteenth week in a row, I loved Fade's dress. I just don't think it was at all appropriate for a red carpet).

 

I get that Kristine's design was a disaster, but I cannot believe she was eliminated over Korina. The judges actively liked elements of Kristine's design. The judges suggested ways Kristine's dress could be saved. Kristine has been in the top 3 twice.

 

Korina, OTOH, completely failed at a basic slip dress and swapped one sad green color for another. She was obviously kept around for her drama potential, but I feel like we've been robbed of some great fashion this season with Kristine going home so early.

[Milaxx]

Emily

Her futuristic escort look is scandalously short in both the front and the back. Even the model isn't sold as she hesitantly teeters down the runway. I'm surprised she doesn't catch flak for its lack of class.

 

How could they when the week before Heid wore this to promote Amercia's Got Talent?

what on earth is the Creative Arts Emmys?

 

They are also the awards that Kathy Griffins jokingly calls the Schemmy's.

Kini is never going to win with too safe entries he can clearly execute in his sleep. He needs to be pushing himself instead of taking naps.

 

Man, do I agree with this. I'm impressed that he's such a fast worker, but to not use all the extra time to try something different or take a risk or try to improve your garment is really disappointing, and sorta shows a laissez-faire attitude.

 

And if you're napping your stuff needs to be perfect. A wonky neckline that you try to cover with ugly beads is not going to cut it.

Edited August 23, 2014 by Milaxx

[LotusFlower]

They are also the awards that Kathy Griffins jokingly calls the Schemmy's.

She'll show up for anything! (Love her, though).

[PepperMonkey]

Kimberstormer: BTW, I suspect that Fade is secretly not German at all.  Every time Heidi speaks German to him, he just sort of chuckles and nods, the way you do when you don't understand what someone is saying

 

IKR??????? He never responds to her in German either and always acts confused about what she's saying to him. Not that I care if he's German or not, because I like what he's done so far but I have a feeling that he's not going to go the distance, yet his runway decoy collection will be one of the best, if not the best.

 

You guys!!! Fade is our 2014 Uli!!! Loves his prints, mixes them well, not uber flashy and doesn't get nearly the love he deserves.

Edited August 23, 2014 by PepperMonkey

[StatMom]

By far the best moment was Heidi's splash of German. I rewound twice just to hear her say "Lodenjacke" again.

[Linderhill]

 

that apparently never stopped anyone from loving Christian Siriano, who never said a nice word about anyone on his entire season.

I guess I'm in the minority because I always hated the little jerk-off.  I always thought he was overrated and repetitive, skinny pants and big collars.  He also fell to pieces when he had to work with a strong willed high school girl that was not model shaped.  It made my day that episode. 

[Lnmop]

I'm waiting with bated breath for Amanda to get the boot. Her POV is awful and she's smug. I suspect she'll end up on the chopping block and Tim will use his save to keep her in the competition. At that point, I will break my TV set.

My mother always said "if you can't say something nice about a person, don't say anything at all".

Amanda has very good posture.

My BFF said said "if you can't say something nice about a person, come sit by me."

Amanda's work looks like she was a star pupil at Alexandra's sewing camp for kids.

[henripootel]

This is funny to me just because of the conversation we've been having re: Survivor!

I'm of a suspicious mind, Kimber.  I honestly think the producers of this show make Survivor look clean by comparison.  This week's judging wasn't so bad but the two weeks previously - I thought they were winding us up just to see how much we'd put up with.  Even Jeff Probst doesn't do that.

 

Has anyone mentioned the rather unflattering outfits Heidi wore of her own volition?  The Sarasota comfort pants she wore to the workroom or the weird boxy leopard-print thing she wore to judging?  Are we supposed to pretend that Heidi has any taste at all for the 'design for Heidi's taste' challenge?

[millennium]

I don't think she did anything wrong, but...she's sort of the Richard Hatch of PR right now.  I don't think Jeff Probst and Mark Burnett knew what game they'd created, and Richard did.  And I don't think Heidi and Tim knew what challenge they were making, but Sandhya did.  That's both great and a little unsettling.

 

 

I viewed her more as a Russell Hantz or Tony Doofus who won Survivor last season.   Sandhya is the person who gets to the island and starts hunting for the hidden immunity idol while the others waste time getting caught up in petty personality shit.  

[henripootel]

and then explained that the dress they're tasked with making is for an industry event where she's representing PR as host and producer and she needs to be peer-appropriate.

This wouldn't have helped - have a look at http://tomandlorenzo.com/2014/08/project-runway-the-pretend-heidi-has-taste-challenge/

 

Their 'refresher' of Heidi's event wardrobe is hilarious, as are Tom and Lorenzo, as always.

[Kromm]

How could they when the week before Heid wore this to promote Amercia's Got Talent?

18 year old club girls looked at that and said "wow, that looks cheap!"

 

As good as Heidi looks for her age, one of these days she's got to realize she's now in her 40s.

[KimberStormer]

I viewed her more as a Russell Hantz or Tony Doofus who won Survivor last season.   Sandhya is the person who gets to the island and starts hunting for the hidden immunity idol while the others waste time getting caught up in petty personality shit.  

 

Well, petty personality shit is in fact the whole game of Survivor, which is why Russell lost every time.  I'm not sure if you're intending to diss Sandhya here (it's very rare to see Russell mentioned positively) but I guess I do see the Tony comparison, scrambling for every possible advantage.  (Though a true Survivor villain would have deliberately sabotaged the team when she had immunity, which I don't think Sandhya did, as annoying as I found her in that episode.)  Maybe it will get her where it got Tony!  I wouldn't mind necessarily, but it would sure be weird if PR did not come down to design skills but rather manipulation of the letter of ad hoc rules to make them function wildly against their spirit the way she did this episode.

[Kromm]

Well, petty personality shit is in fact the whole game of Survivor, which is why Russell lost every time.  I'm not sure if you're intending to diss Sandhya here (it's very rare to see Russell mentioned positively) but I guess I do see the Tony comparison, scrambling for every possible advantage.  (Though a true Survivor villain would have deliberately sabotaged the team when she had immunity, which I don't think Sandhya did, as annoying as I found her in that episode.)  Maybe it will get her where it got Tony!  I wouldn't mind necessarily, but it would sure be weird if PR did not come down to design skills but rather manipulation of the letter of ad hoc rules to make them function wildly against their spirit the way she did this episode.

Sandhya is no villain, but she's dysfunctional in relation any environment that doesn't conform to her world-view (even if on some level what she did in scrounging money from so many people showed a certain craftiness that the show had only hinted at previously).  Not that Michell or any of that ilk are any better, even if the details of what's wrong with how they function as human beings is coming from another direction entirely.  

 

Then again this show often feeds impulses that are dysfunctional and run counter to how you're really supposed to be able to be to work for an actual design house.  This is just yet another example. Passive-Aggressive, like Sandhya won't fly at a real job, but neither will Aggressive-Aggressive, like Mitchell (Korina  is actually more like Sandhya than either of them would probably like to admit, since I see her as Passive-Aggressive too).

[millennium]

Well, petty personality shit is in fact the whole game of Survivor, which is why Russell lost every time.  I'm not sure if you're intending to diss Sandhya here (it's very rare to see Russell mentioned positively) but I guess I do see the Tony comparison, scrambling for every possible advantage. 

 

I think Sandhya will fall short, the same way the Survivor opportunists do eventually (Tony won, but only by default of Woo's dazzling stupidity).   The show is using Sandhya as drama fodder for the moment but I don't think she has a prayer of winning.

[henripootel]

The show is using Sandhya as drama fodder for the moment but I don't think she has a prayer of winning.

I'm getting that feeling too, like they want us to like her or think she's a shoe-in just so it's more dramatic when she eventually loses.  I wonder if part of this is deliberately turning a blind eye to Fade, at least for the moment.  He's consistently solid but always in the 'qualified' group, which makes me wonder if they're avoiding having to make the judges say out loud 'we loved your look, Fade, but we're giving the win to, ugh, Amanda.  Again'.

Edited August 23, 2014 by henripootel

[RealityGal]

Kimberstormer: BTW, I suspect that Fade is secretly not German at all.  Every time Heidi speaks German to him, he just sort of chuckles and nods, the way you do when you don't understand what someone is saying

 

IKR??????? He never responds to her in German either and always acts confused about what she's saying to him. Not that I care if he's German or not, because I like what he's done so far but I have a feeling that he's not going to go the distance, yet his runway decoy collection will be one of the best, if not the best.

 

You guys!!! Fade is our 2014 Uli!!! Loves his prints, mixes them well, not uber flashy and doesn't get nearly the love he deserves.

 

I sort of wonder if this isn't an "East Germany/West Germany" thing.  I vaguely remember (and I could be wrong) that Fade was from East Germany.  If thats the case he may not have been exposed to the TV programming that Heidi was.  And honestly, Fade also doesn't strike me as the type who was watching shows about whatever a Lodenjacke is.  I just thought it was funny that Fade...who was probably deep in thought about his own dress, was suddenly called on by Heidi to answer some question about the color green and relation to an old German show, I would have probably been confused too.

 

 

18 year old club girls looked at that and said "wow, that looks cheap!"

 

As good as Heidi looks for her age, one of these days she's got to realize she's now in her 40s.

Never.  I find it laughable that you even suggest Heidi accept her age and dress accordingly.  

 

I remember, I think it was two seasons ago, and her penchant for too-tight, sparkly go-go dancer dresses was at an all time high, and someone (maybe at TWoP) said "I swear Seal hires someone to go into her closet and change around the size tags on all her clothing so she won't buy even tighter clothes"

 

And while I find some of her outfits particularly ridiculous, there is a part of me that loves her for happily admitting to her age, and then wearing whatever she wants.  It makes me feel a little better about getting older to know that I won't be forced into a Chico's at some point, or I won't need to wear elastic band pants (there is nothing wrong with Chico's  or elastic band pants BTW, but I feel a lot of women get forced into Chico's)

I'm getting that feeling too, like they want us to like her or think she's a shoe-in just so it's more dramatic when she eventually loses.  I wonder if part of this is deliberately turning a blind eye to Fade, at least for the moment.  He's consistently solid but always in the 'qualified' group, which makes me wonder if they're avoiding having to make the judges say out loud 'we loved your look, Fade, but we're giving the win to, ugh, Amanda.  Again'.

I think she might be a Patricia.  They may want to see her collection because it will be different and interesting, but they won't give her the win.

 

I agree with everyone who has said (hoped!) that Fade will start getting more recognition as they get rid of the weaker designers.  

[Kromm]

I sort of wonder if this isn't an "East Germany/West Germany" thing.  I vaguely remember (and I could be wrong) that Fade was from East Germany.  If thats the case he may not have been exposed to the TV programming that Heidi was.  And honestly, Fade also doesn't strike me as the type who was watching shows about whatever a Lodenjacke is.  I just thought it was funny that Fade...who was probably deep in thought about his own dress, was suddenly called on by Heidi to answer some question about the color green and relation to an old German show, I would have probably been confused too.

There's a similar discussion in Fade's topic now, but to rehash a tiny bit, Heidi isn't just from West Germany, she's apparently from the Rhine region in the West that's practically Belgium. Plus she flew off to America when she was what?  Like 19?  Meanwhile Fade as you say was East German.  I bet they have "accents" to each other.  I mean look at the UK, for comparison.  People who live 20 miles from each other there can often have near impenetrable accents to each other.  

[Julia]

A lodenjacke is a traditional boiled wool coat. They're really warm and waterproof but not very elegant. It would be as if someone made an evening dress out of the plaid from a lumberjack's shirt, more or less.

I really wonder if the other designers feel free to say no to Sandhya, since she's clearly one of the producers' darlings and the people who are set up as her opponents seem to be dropping like flies. She appears to be comfortable using that, too. I can see why the smart designers gave her money to go away quietly.

Edited August 23, 2014 by Julia

[RealityGal]

A lodenjacke is a traditional boiled wool coat. They're really warm and waterproof but not very elegant. It would be as if someone made an evening dress out of the plaid from a lumberjack's shirt, more or less.

I really wonder if the other designers feel free to say no to Sandhya, since she's clearly one of the producers' darlings and the people who are set up as her opponents seem to be dropping like flies. She appears to be comfortable using that, too. I can see why the smart designers gave her money to go away quietly.

 

I wonder if they were available/popular in East Germany?

 

Well, if I were another designer I think it would be a risk/reward scenario.  I mean, you don't give her the money and you risk looking like an asshat on TV, especially if production makes her look sympathetic.  Additionally, since she has been winning challenges and one of them allowed her the chance to pick fabrics for the challenge I would want to stay on her good side.  Then what do you gain by not giving her the money.  Maybe she goes and buys amazing fabric, but she is only going to have like 4 hours to turn that fabric into something awesome if she is going to win, and thats unlikely, she is no Kini.  I don't think any of the designers that stayed could have possibly thought they were going to be pushed into the bottom three by giving her the money, because I think the bottom three was pretty set even before they left for Mood.  There were a lot of low cards in the deck that was the design room, and while I didn't much care for Emily's or Alexander's I didn't think they would be in the bottom.  I mean, they were trying to design a gown in a day, which sounds tough, then they would have to go back to Mood, and pretty much create an entire new dress in like 4 hours, that is generally only going to lead to bad results.  So, since Sandaya probably wasn't going to produce a winning look, and since none of the designers that stayed really seemed like they were gonna go bottom three, and because Sandaya could potentially take out her anger at you later, and because you don't want to risk looking like an asshat on TV I can understand them just giving her the money.

 

And truly, Kini looked like he barely even thought about it.  And one of the things I've always sort of dug about PR is the fact that some of the best designers are willing to help someone else.  A lot of them seem to have the attitude that they don't want to win because someone else lost, they want to win because they made something amazing.

[Wings]

Creative Arts Emmys

http://www.oregonlive.com/movies/index.ssf/2014/08/2014_emmy_countdown_creative_a.html

 

When Heidi spoke German to Fade, it was a comment mocking another designers garment.  I don't think he wanted to say anything because she would probably have translated it for everyone or made note that he agreed.   I don't remember the other times specifically but I think they were similar. 

 

I like Heidi and her taste most of the time.  I thought what she wore in the work room was faublous!

 

My head is still spinning from the pink Jetson dress Sandhya made weeks ago.  She is the one with questionable taste.  And I agree she is focused on the win and love the analogy of hunting for the hidden idols. 

 

I am not impressed with Amanda and I love the Bohemian look.  For me, she misses that.  Her dress this week was ill fitting on the top and made the model's body look wide.  AND is was ugly. 

 

Heidi in fringed dress.

http://tomandlorenzo.com/2014/08/heidi-klum-in-sean-kelly-at-the-2014-creative-arts-emmy-awards/

 

The top was changed and the fringe looks to be a more expensive varity looking more like feathers up close. 

Edited August 23, 2014 by wings707

[millennium]

There's a similar discussion in Fade's topic now, but to rehash a tiny bit, Heidi isn't just from West Germany, she's apparently from the Rhine region in the West that's practically Belgium. Plus she flew off to America when she was what?  Like 19?  Meanwhile Fade as you say was East German.  I bet they have "accents" to each other.  I mean look at the UK, for comparison.  People who live 20 miles from each other there can often have near impenetrable accents to each other.  

 

Fade's glasses are like a Berlin Wall between him and the camera.   Sometimes I'm reminded of the chauffeur in Burnt Offerings.   Sometimes Sprockets.

[RealityGal]

 

Fade's glasses are like a Berlin Wall between him and the camera.   Sometimes I'm reminded of the chauffeur in Burnt Offerings.   Sometimes Sprockets.

I always think Sprockets!  Always, but this just makes me like him.  LMAO @ his glasses being like the Berlin Wall.

[RealityCowgirl]

Watching Last night's Fashion Police this morning. Heidi was the number four "must see look of the week." That was not a good thing.

[larapu2000]

This! I was wondering why the hell she got that fabric when she went to Mood again. I thought her first dress was interesting, but it was not Heidi Klum. I took it as proof, that Korina did not do research about PR before coming on. When she mentioned real snakeskin, I looked over at my mom and went, "Does she not know Heidi worked with PETA?"

 

Edited: The heck?

 

PETA is irrelevant when you are discussing the murder of evil snakes.  They had it coming!

 

I was also hoping that when Heidi and Tim came back in, it would be to give them another day.  But.....no.

[RealityGal]

PETA is irrelevant when you are discussing the murder of evil snakes.  They had it coming!

 

I was also hoping that when Heidi and Tim came back in, it would be to give them another day.  But.....no.

Here is the thing.  I didn't know Heidi Klum worked with PETA, but there are very few people anymore, and almost no one in Hollywood that would wear authentic animal skin.  And certainly not on TV.  Thats just begging for a protest.  

 

So I have no idea what Korina was thinking, especially since her color was so ugly.  It seemed a shame that a snake had to die for that ugly ass dress.

 

Although I almost laughed out loud when Heidi was like "I don't want to wear fake snake skin" and Korina thought she would make it better by letting Heidi know that it was real snakeskin....whomp whomp

[Fostersmom]

I really wonder if the other designers feel free to say no to Sandhya, since she's clearly one of the producers' darlings and the people who are set up as her opponents seem to be dropping like flies. She appears to be comfortable using that, too. I can see why the smart designers gave her money to go away quietly.

 

Would Sandhya have known that though? This was taped forever ago. I don't even think they do the TH interviews at the time. I don't think any of them know what edit they are going to get or who is a production favorite until they see it like we are.

[beaker73]

Don't you think they're saving that for Amanda?

I don't think so. They've already brought her back once - they won't do it again.

[Julia]

Would Sandhya have known that though? This was taped forever ago. I don't even think they do the TH interviews at the time. I don't think any of them know what edit they are going to get or who is a production favorite until they see it like we are.

 

Well, if she's ever watched the show, she knows that no-one's ever gotten to assign all the tasks before, and she's certainly won for two shoddy garments while the people she complained about were sent home, so she has to have twigged that she's not the stepchild of the competition.

 

I give Sandhya credit for being smarter and far less innocent than the character she's apparently been assigned. She appears to me to be a bit of an expert in rolling over people under cover of being underestimated. She's a bit of a Helen Castillo, I think.

 

Of course, that's assuming she hasn't been coached. And I don't necessarily assume that the producers' darlings aren't coached.

Edited August 23, 2014 by Julia

[beaker73]

Worse, my first thought with the whole 2nd shopping trip was not that everybody's dress sucked and they were just trying to step-up the game, but that Sandhaya's sucked and they were trying to protect her.  When she was the only one who thought to collect money from the stay-behinds, my head-scratching went 'gentle massage' to 'bloody furrows'.  They've done this sorta shit before.

It reminded me of the time that Anya "lost" her money at Mood and had to construct (I use that term loosely) her garment out of muslin and....voila! They all magically got a second trip back! And guess who won that challenge? The whole thing reeks to me.

[RealityGal]

Well, if she's ever watched the show, she knows that no-one's ever gotten to assign all the tasks before, and she's certainly won for two shoddy garments while the people she complained about were sent home, so she has to have twigged that she's not the stepchild of the competition.

 

I give Sandhya credit for being smarter and far less innocent than the character she's apparently been assigned. She appears to me to be a bit of an expert in rolling over people under cover of being underestimated. She's a bit of a Helen Castillo, I think.

 

Of course, that's assuming she hasn't been coached. And I don't necessarily assume that the producers' darlings aren't coached.

Oh no, not Helen.  That's just mean...or at least it is IMO, because I couldn't stand Helen...not even a little....no matter how hard they tried to make her likeable.

[Surrealist]

Well, if I were another designer I think it would be a risk/reward scenario. I mean, you don't give her the money and you risk looking like an asshat on TV, especially if production makes her look sympathetic. Additionally, since she has been winning challenges and one of them allowed her the chance to pick fabrics for the challenge I would want to stay on her good side. Then what do you gain by not giving her the money. Maybe she goes and buys amazing fabric, but she is only going to have like 4 hours to turn that fabric into something awesome if she is going to win, and thats unlikely, she is no Kini. I don't think any of the designers that stayed could have possibly thought they were going to be pushed into the bottom three by giving her the money, because I think the bottom three was pretty set even before they left for Mood. There were a lot of low cards in the deck that was the design room, and while I didn't much care for Emily's or Alexander's I didn't think they would be in the bottom. I mean, they were trying to design a gown in a day, which sounds tough, then they would have to go back to Mood, and pretty much create an entire new dress in like 4 hours, that is generally only going to lead to bad results. So, since Sandaya probably wasn't going to produce a winning look, and since none of the designers that stayed really seemed like they were gonna go bottom three, and because Sandaya could potentially take out her anger at you later, and because you don't want to risk looking like an asshat on TV I can understand them just giving her the money.

And truly, Kini looked like he barely even thought about it. And one of the things I've always sort of dug about PR is the fact that some of the best designers are willing to help someone else. A lot of them seem to have the attitude that they don't want to win because someone else lost, they want to win because they made something amazing.

This exactly. I, too, didn't think that Kini over thought giving Sandhya the money. He seems to be a nice person in general and seemed more concerned with what he was making. That's how all the designers should feel.

So many of them gripe about every little thing. I'd hate to see them on a daily basis, away from the show, trying to get their work done.

[leighdear]

Ok, go back and look at Char's model in the Tom & Lorenzo recap.  I'm sorry, but that has GOT to be a dude!   And Emily's model looks like a guy too.....

 

I'm not trying to be mean, but seriously!

Edited August 23, 2014 by leighdear

[Calamity Jane]

As for what Fashion Police had to say, I take any comments with a huge pinch of salt.  One of my favorite pastimes after Oscars, Golden Globes, etc., etc., is to surf around and see how often a "worst-dressed" outfit turns up on someone else's "best-dressed" list.  Those that end up on both tend to be the more daring, unsurprisingly.  I get the car-wash similarity, but I still think it was a fun look, and Heidi seemed to be having a blast showing it off.  

[mansonlamps]

I just watched the last two episodes and I'm not sure I can continue the season. The Gretchenization of Amanda is too frustrating to watch week after week. Don't they remember she never won a single challenge the first time around, where did this immense talent suddenly come from?

[Milaxx]

Heidi in fringed dress.

http://tomandlorenzo...ts-emmy-awards/

 

The top was changed and the fringe looks to be a more expensive varity looking more like feathers up close.

 

It wasn't changed. That's part of why George on Fashion Police said it looked heavy. What appears to be feather like is actually just the blur from all the spinning Heidi did all night in order to sell that dress. As a model she was well aware that it looked better moving and when she stood still you could see the heaviness of the dress.

[Calamity Jane]

Thanks, I could see no difference between the dress she wore on the runway and the dress in the episode as far as the top (or anything else, actually) was concerned.  

[Julia]

But still, Heidi was the first image on the Emmy runway website. Which suggests that someone was impressed.

[Oldernowiser]

But still, Heidi was the first image on the Emmy runway website. Which suggests that someone was impressed.

Or that Life time paid for that spot. I'm becoming increasingly convinced that all of that stuff is bought and paid for. After all, if the NFL is now requesting that the half-time gigs for the Super Bowl pay for the privilege of performing...

[PrincessEnnui]

Could it be that so called fashionistas are rejecting what is essentially a homemade dress. I've seen some of the things the people of Fashion Police like. There is more than a little juvenile attitude in their best and worst dressed list.

 

Does the NFL really think that its stupid Superbowl half time show is a "get" for anyone besides an up and comer? I don't even watch, so there. :P

'

Edited August 24, 2014 by PrincessEnnui

[ChristmasJones]

Why do the judges keep liking Amanda's outfits? I can't recall all of them, but in general, I believe I have found all of them quite fug.

 

Do they have to keep her on for a while just because they brought her back? This season is feeling more rigged to me than many others.... and I don't like it.

[Milaxx]

But still, Heidi was the first image on the Emmy runway website. Which suggests that someone was impressed.

 

It did it's job. It was a spoiler and Heidi twirled all night to make sure it was a splash. In short, it's an outfit with a story. We've seen KimK also make the front of many fashion blogs/search engines for wearing less than flattering outfits. 

[RealityGal]

I just watched the last two episodes and I'm not sure I can continue the season. The Gretchenization of Amanda is too frustrating to watch week after week. Don't they remember she never won a single challenge the first time around, where did this immense talent suddenly come from?

well, its different this time because this time she is being "true to herself"

[slensam]

I don't know why Sandhya rubs me the wrong way she just does. I know the money thing was legal and stuff but I just found it irksome. This is the only reality show I watch so I might be missing out on all the angles. She's like an unlikeable Patricia in my opinion. In short, she a phony.

[RealityGal]

I don't know why Sandhya rubs me the wrong way she just does. I know the money thing was legal and stuff but I just found it irksome. This is the only reality show I watch so I might be missing out on all the angles. She's like an unlikeable Patricia in my opinion. In short, she a phony.

I'm on the fence about Sandhaya, especially after the "talk" with Tim.  I'm curious though, what makes you think she is a phony?

 

The other designers don't seem to care for her very much, so maybe you're seeing something that others have been missing.

 

I am cool with the money thing, I think everyone was surprised with how fast she went into action to collect the money (Tim was like "how much did you just spend?"), but  as someone else so aptly said "don't hate the player, hate the game"  If they really wanted everyone to be on an equal field, they shouldn't have allowed them to collect extra money at all.

Edited August 24, 2014 by RealityGal

[slensam]

I'm on the fence about Sandhaya, especially after the "talk" with Tim.  I'm curious though, what makes you think she is a phony?

 

The other designers don't seem to care for her very much, so maybe you're seeing something that others have been missing.

 

I am cool with the money thing, I think everyone was surprised with how fast she went into action to collect the money (Tim was like "how much did you just spend?"), but  as someone else so aptly said "don't hate the player, hate the game"  If they really wanted everyone to be on an equal field, they shouldn't have allowed them to collect extra money at all.

Really, it's just a feeling. Probably more of a personal taste. They always seem to say that this is a competition, so yeah a game. Guess I don't like game-playing of this sort. In my opinion, she comes on like an innocent open type of person but I definitely think the wheels are turning in the background for some kind of advantage. Don't know if the other designers are picking up on this or not. She's definitely a head-scratcher for me.

[RealityGal]

Really, it's just a feeling. Probably more of a personal taste. They always seem to say that this is a competition, so yeah a game. Guess I don't like game-playing of this sort. In my opinion, she comes on like an innocent open type of person but I definitely think the wheels are turning in the background for some kind of advantage. Don't know if the other designers are picking up on this or not. She's definitely a head-scratcher for me.

 

Interesting!  Hernan basically alluded to the same thing so you may be seeing something that the other designers saw.  And I'm starting to see what you're talking about - like when she basically flipped Hernan off and told him in a very strong tone not to talk to her again like that - personally, I'm fine with that, I'm totally down for a fellow woman not wanting to be called a bitch, even if its a joking reference (personally, I'm totally fine with a gay guy calling me a bitch, but thats just me).  But the way she did it seemed so out of line with this the either the persona that production is giving her or she has been putting out there.  I'm not sure if I should feel its subterfuge, or just the iron fist in the velvet glove.

[slensam]

Interesting!  Hernan basically alluded to the same thing so you may be seeing something that the other designers saw.  And I'm starting to see what you're talking about - like when she basically flipped Hernan off and told him in a very strong tone not to talk to her again like that - personally, I'm fine with that, I'm totally down for a fellow woman not wanting to be called a bitch, even if its a joking reference (personally, I'm totally fine with a gay guy calling me a bitch, but thats just me).  But the way she did it seemed so out of line with this the either the persona that production is giving her or she has been putting out there.  I'm not sure if I should feel its subterfuge, or just the iron fist in the velvet glove.

All of it might just be producer manipulation. With somebody like Anya it was the plucky pretty underdog who doesn't know how to sew yet wins in the end. I don't what know story they want to tell with Sandyha. Do they want me to like her or not to like her. With each show I seem to be leaning to the dark side on that question.

[Mabinogia]

I wonder if part of Sadhya's duality is cultural. She was born to a culture where she is expected to be quiet and do as she's told and she's living in a culture where everyone does whatever the hell they please. It shows in her design too, with the little comments she puts on her clothing, the little FUs to the more repressive culture she was born into. Her personality is quiet like her clothes in that way.

 

I think her asking everyone for money was actually very smart. She seems to realize this show is actually a contest. I do and don't like that. I mean, it is a contest so I can't fault her for playing it like it is, but I really want it to be about making great fashion. So yeah, I don't hate the player, but I am really starting to hate the game. This show was a lot less gamey in the beginning and had Sandhya done that in the first season I would have seen shades of Wendy Pepper there, but at this point I think you do whatever you can to get an advantage. It is funny, though, that this is the same woman who claimed to be picking those ugly suits based on what she thought people could do well with. Maybe she's a Jekyll and Hyde, or has an evil twin who is splitting the time with her. Ooh, add that to the Fade is not German idea and this would be the most cracktastic season ever. LOL It would at least make the Grechinication of Amanda make more sense, if everyone else was a plant.

 

I'm still bitter at Kini and Fade's lack of wins vs Amanda's. Like, seriously? How did that badly sewn hippy wannabe dress make top three and not Fade's stunning stripped number?

[Fostersmom]

Sandhya said she saw that fabric the first time around, but the cost was so much that she couldn't afford it. She heard they could get extra money, knew how much she needed and went for it. I say, good on her. I do think that she would have been able to make something at least passable enough to keep her out of the bottom 3 with what she had, especially since the 2 out of 3 of the bottom looked like a blind monkey sewed them, but she at least tried and listened to what Heidi told her. 

[RealityGal]

Sandhya said she saw that fabric the first time around, but the cost was so much that she couldn't afford it. She heard they could get extra money, knew how much she needed and went for it. I say, good on her. I do think that she would have been able to make something at least passable enough to keep her out of the bottom 3 with what she had, especially since the 2 out of 3 of the bottom looked like a blind monkey sewed them, but she at least tried and listened to what Heidi told her. 

The sad thing is you could be talking about any 2 out of the bottom 3 when you say that.    But I place the majority of the blame on the show for these ridiculous one day challenges, by the time they came back from mood they had like 4 hours to try to put together the sort of dress it sounds like it takes weeks to make.