Current Plots Discussion II: Discussing Today's Episode and Current Storylines

[KBrownie]

5 hours ago, DaphneCat said:

Jennifer simply said "You have to stay here for Gwen" and Jack just immediately agreed.  No argument, nothing.   Just "See you when I see you."

He lives only for Gwen now. 

Not the 30+ years love of his life soulmate who showed him what true love was or his surviving child with that soulmate, but Gwen.  The despicable sociopath who has brought nothing positive into his life.  

It's painfully obvious that RC has eliminated EVERY other person in Jack's life to put her at the top and force some bond that isn't there.  It's still not going to work.  It just makes people resentful.  Even more painful is the fact that MA has no chem w/ EO as family.  Nor CM.  He's so much more natural with KM, MM, and CM.  The Gwen stuff has always been too sudden and totally forced.

[junemeatcleaver]

I think old dude who plays Jack is the worst actor on the show especially when he's yelling. 

Edited October 6, 2022 by junemeatcleaver

[peachmangosteen]

1 hour ago, junemeatcleaver said:

I think old dude who plays Jack is the worst actor on the show especially when he's yelling. 

He really is awful. It's just embarrassing to watch. He doesn't make it fun the way some other bad actors do, like Li for instance lol.

[tribeca]

Does anyone think it’s creepy and a little sketchy that someone was able to get into a child’s school and put a note in their lunchbox?

this is Kristin daughter shouldn’t she be playing up to Chloe and poisoning her tea or something more sinister than throwing a stale pastry ?

 Kristin visiting Marlene was something.  Kristin “Marlene you look as beautiful as ever “ lol 

Did Leo really think he had a chance getting Craig back ?

[Lastwaltz]

5 hours ago, junemeatcleaver said:

I think old dude who plays Jack is the worst actor on the show especially when he's yelling. 

oh man, as one who LOVED Jack back in the 80s, this is so hard to read. However true it is. I hate that they ruined him. 

[Pearson80]

As someone who has always loved Jack, I would be okay with him dying and leaving the show  for good this time because the Gwen Worship is hard to take.

Edited October 6, 2022 by Pearson80

[brisbydog]

I also loved (past tense) Jack in 1988 circa when he found out he was Billy. He was SO good then. :(

Hey Kristen you don't WATER orchids I know this from having to keep my mother's collection alive. She is going to kill that thing and take the gals with it

I hope Alex turns down the threesome cause he is in loooove. Allie is kinda sad if she thinks Chanel needs penis or she will be bored with her. After what, two months?

[Swartz]

MA use to be better.  I never found him a good dramatic actor but he could do light stuff.  He seems lost now.  Combine that with Cady's Jennifer and its a mess. 

[peachmangosteen]

MA just seems like he doesn't even read his script before he comes into work. Like, if you're not even gonna do the bare minimum, please leave lol.

I'm still gonna hold out hope they go there with Johnny/Ava. But I am also down for EJ/Ava.

The Stefan story is already dead and he's only been back for like 2 weeks.

Rafe and Jada have great chem tbh. 

GV is so fucking hot. It's too bad Eric is such a dud of a character.

[norcalgal]

5 hours ago, Lastwaltz said:

oh man, as one who LOVED Jack back in the 80s, this is so hard to read. However true it is. I hate that they ruined him. 

2 hours ago, Pearson80 said:

As someone who has always loved Jack, I would be okay with him dying and leaving the show  for good this time because the Gwen Worship is hard to take.

35 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

MA just seems like he doesn't even read his script before he comes into work. Like, if you're not even gonna do the bare minimum, please leave lol.

The major reason why my OTP Supercouple out of every Supercouple DOOL has ever had is Jack & Jen is mainly due to Matt Ashford. Also, the chemistry/vibe between him and Missy Reeves absolutely sold me on this pairing.

I seriously wish the show had killed this couple for good (maybe when Jen married Peter...?), rather than bring back MA once/twice/thrice and each time, it seemed ever worse than before. I have been on hiatus from watching, but given the comments I've read here, it's beyond obvious to me the J&J Supercouple I knew and loved are dead, dead, dead.

So, even though they were never a traditional couple (let alone Supercouple), Carly & Lawrence are now my favorite DOOL couple of all time.  [Of course, stupid show sh*t on them as well when Carly returned sans Lawrence some years ago.  (sigh) ]

[CanaryFan98]

22 hours ago, Swartz said:

Does Jack even know Kayla is dying?  Does Steve know Abby's killer has been found? He was supposed to be investigating until Ron forgot.

Nancy is the WORSE. The actress is the WORSE.  Take your cheating husband and leave forever.  I can't remember the last time we've had such a pathetic character. 

Actually Kristen and Leo may be even worse.  So much airtime being wasted on these types of characters.   It's the type Ron loves to write for meanwhile the characters we actually love do nothing.   I mean Kayla may be dying and the Steve we know would be tearing  apart Salem to save her yet its all happening offscreen. 

For Jack fans.  What has been worse? This return or his return in 2011?  It's hard to choose.  

This return I still liked Jack in 2011 despite the Daniel mess he seemed like Jack to me. 

The only good thing his return produced was that I got the Jack/JJ dynamic(as short lived as it has been)

He could die now and I won't care tbh. 

I also echo Norcalgal's sentiment on Carly/Lawrence but at least they have a RL happy ending.

Edited October 6, 2022 by CanaryFan98

[Swartz]

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This return I still liked Jack in 2011 despite the Daniel mess he seemed like Jack to me. 

Did he seem like Jack though back in 11?  I guess he had his moments but I think he's had his moments this run too.   Probably none since we found out Gwen is his daughter but there were some moments before the worse retcon child appeared.    

They should put him in more scenes with Steve.  Steve seems to ground him.  He seems most like Jack in their scenes 

[DanaMB]

On 10/5/2022 at 9:35 AM, peachmangosteen said:

I loved everything with Leo. He still entertains me.

I haven’t admitted it until now, but me too. 

[Frozendiva]

Jada and Rafe, you have no business being jealous of Eric or Nicole at this moment. Maybe down the line a bit. Her friend and ex husband informed her that his mom and two other family members may be dying. She can hug him. All of you are not teens.

So Will won’t tell his little sister if he and Sonny have had a threesome. Sonny isn’t there. So what. And no, Allie, if you don’t feel right about it and only want to make Chanel happy, it is the wrong thing to do.

Stefan keeps his ring on, goes to see Gabi and then takes it off?

Gabi pushes Ava back to the mansion. As suspected, EJ wants the shares and so he invited Johnny and Ava back.

Chanel, the Universe may not be putting Johnny and Ava together.

[norcalgal]

4 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

I also echo Norcalgal's sentiment on Carly/Lawrence but at least they have a RL happy ending.

I consciously avoid looking into the current goings-on of Crystal and Michael because it would absolutely shatter me if I found out they’re no longer together.

True story: it wasn’t until a few years after they left Days (first iteration of Carly/Lawrence) that I found out they were married IRL. I totally squeed like you can’t believe because I had NO idea - none, zero, nada - that one of my favorite “couples” were actually a couple!!!  That’s right, I never read the soap magazines or looked up either of them on the Internet so it came as a complete surprise but very very happy surprise to me.  I think I found out because I was watching some show that interviewed Crystal (can’t recall what show) and she was telling the host about Michael’s new “job” renovating houses and then selling them. I was absolutely floored because they had been married maybe 5-8 years by this time but it was new news to me! 

[boes]

Show must be so thrilled that now that they've moved to streaming, EJ can make multiple comments about Gabi's "fine ass".  Quality tv at its best.  I guess it won't be long before we see Doug buying crotchless candy panties for Julie and Alex conducting business in a banana thong.

Bill Bell would be SO proud.

I can't imagine anyone wanting to have a three way with Allie unless they were a licensed therapist looking for some billable hours.  She makes "dour" look like a compliment.

The new actress playing Jada is really good. Just imagine how difficult it must be to have most of your scenes opposite Galen Gehring and not fall asleep from boredom.  That, my friends, is TALENT!

I see no reason that Eric can't do all his scenes in a thong.  He's got the personality of a can of expired playdough, but that body........  

[Lastwaltz]

@norcalgal -- aww, I loved Carly, too, but more her slow-as-molasses 'dance' with Bo when they each denied their attraction and growing feelings for each other and From a Distance would play during their scenes (swoon). I liked this pairing much better than Bo with Billie or even Hope. Yes, I said it, lol.

[Retired at last]

8 hours ago, boes said:

I guess it won't be long before we see Doug buying crotchless candy panties for Julie and Alex conducting business in a banana thong.

That's better than what they had on Married at First Sight last week. Vibrating underwear that the husband kept using the remote to turn on during dinner! I have lived a very sheltered life.

Edited October 7, 2022 by Retired at last

[brisbydog]

Does anybody give a crap about Chanel, Allie and this stupid threesome conversation????

My brain is melting.

[Frozendiva]

@boes, fun, party girl Allie just seems so low energy. Maybe underneath the piece of pale toast lies a tigress.

[boes]

1 hour ago, brisbydog said:

Does anybody give a crap about Chanel, Allie and this stupid threesome conversation????

My brain is melting.

Maybe, if they do have that threesome with Alex, they might come up with a complete brain between the three of them.

Nah, not medically possible.

[Swartz]

Is Kayla still dying?  Why is  Stephanie stuck in this Chad and Alex stuff when she should be with her parents.  I hate Ron as writer so much 

[RedElf]

21 minutes ago, Swartz said:

Is Kayla still dying?  Why is  Stephanie stuck in this Chad and Alex stuff when she should be with her parents.  I hate Ron as writer so much 

Why is Eric stuck in this Rafe/Nicole/Jada stuff when he should be with his mother?

[rcc]

"My mom, my mom, my mom ..." Says Eric with the gray beard. Go see her and stop whining. The writing for him sucks.

[RedElf]

I think an EJ/Gabi coupling would be fantastic.  Imagine the power couple they would make.

Do the DiMeras not have staff?  Isn't Harold getting up in years to run the entire house on his own?

Why are they letting this poison story play out for so long when hardly any of it is actually onscreen?

Jeez, the theme of the day is "Let's all drink."

Sloan waked through the door like the sort of cliche they use in soap satires.

The DiMansion has a full bar but Johnny has to run off to the kitchen for a wine bottle opener?

Did Sonny ever get his chili dogs?

If Ava doesn't legally control Jake's shares, wouldn't they belong to Vivian?

[Frozendiva]

Alex saw Stephanie and Chad at the restaurant, left, and came back with burgers and fries from the Brady Pub. I enjoyed exasperated Sonny.

Otherwise a dull Friday ep.

A bit awkward for Chad and Stephanie to be working and then drinking together. She kinda is his boss. This could go south really fast and Chad, your wife died a couple months ago and it may be a little soon to move on.

Allie and Chanel planning their dude night. Maybe give some notice to meet up a few days later? Grandma is dying in the hospital along with Aunt Kayla and you can’t hold off for a bit?

Hello Sloan. We haven’t seen you in a bit. All right, who is the client and what is the secret?

I can see taking the wine corkscrew to the kitchen to wash. Ah, EJ could not wait to share his discoveries. Yeah, you would need a master handwriting expert to discover that kind of forgery. Awww, Ava, you are busted.

[CanaryFan98]

On 10/6/2022 at 7:30 PM, Swartz said:

Did he seem like Jack though back in 11?  I guess he had his moments but I think he's had his moments this run too.   Probably none since we found out Gwen is his daughter but there were some moments before the worse retcon child appeared.    

They should put him in more scenes with Steve.  Steve seems to ground him.  He seems most like Jack in their scenes 

I do think he's best with Steve at this point. However compared to now yes I mean I had my issues back then with how it was handled but this is infinitely worse tbh.

[brisbydog]

So both of Allie's grandmothers are dying and she decides this is a good time for a threesome? Has she even stopped by the hospital?

[hypnotoad]

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I consciously avoid looking into the current goings-on of Crystal and Michael because it would absolutely shatter me if I found out they’re no longer together.

They are still married and are now grandparents!

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I loved Carly, too, but more her slow-as-molasses 'dance' with Bo when they each denied their attraction and growing feelings for each other and From a Distance would play during their scenes (swoon). I liked this pairing much better than Bo with Billie or even Hope. Yes, I said it, lol.

Yep Bo and Carly were the first couple I really followed on this show, so very much agree.

I used to love Jack and Jennifer too. They were a rather unique pairing. I don't like what these writers have done with Jack at all. Fine retcon a child - whatever but why make her so awful? And why does she have to be the only thing Jack cares about?

Why is Kristin still around? WHY? I've stayed away for a while and have been catching up on peacock but I'm having a tough time sticking with the show. The writing is so so bad.

And the threesome? Do. Not. Care.

[DaphneCat]

17 hours ago, hypnotoad said:

And the threesome? Do. Not. Care.

I don't actually believe the show will go there.  It took years before a gay couple was considered normal, and they just now got two bisexual characters (I'm convinced they had it be two women rather than a man and a woman or two men because they believed that was somehow more "palatable" for middle America -  after all, the women can still find a man and make babies right?).  People can't even have casual sex on a soap without consequences (pregnancy, someone finding out and judging them, etc.) and I just can't see them making the leap to anything goes.   

[Pearson80]

1 hour ago, DaphneCat said:

I don't actually believe the show will go there.  It took years before a gay couple was considered normal, and they just now got two bisexual characters (I'm convinced they had it be two women rather than a man and a woman or two men because they believed that was somehow more "palatable" for middle America -  after all, the women can still find a man and make babies right?).  People can't even have casual sex on a soap without consequences (pregnancy, someone finding out and judging them, etc.) and I just can't see them making the leap to anything goes.   

I would be down with a threesome storyline but not with these 3 idiots Ron is trying to push on us.  I think Ron does his stories with the wrong characters and  his stories fall flat. Plus, the threesome should be organic..

If Ron wanted this type of storyline, why didn't he pursue a Lani/Kristen romance and then as time goes on both ladies could express that they still desire men and they start looking for one to have fun with as a couple.. 

Edited October 9, 2022 by Pearson80

[Peanut6711]

Ron's attempts at writing romance are as bad, if not worse, than his murder mysteries.  So trying to pull off a three-some is bound to be as cheesy as Sonny's porn-stache.  To even begin to make it non-repulsive, he'd need three actors/actresses with intense chemistry between them all. He doesn't even have a normal two-some couple like that.  Also, if he was going to attempt this, it would have been better when Allie was the devil (and actually had a personality) and when he could have used Evan instead of Alex.  Bring back the origional Chanel actress, and he might have pulled it off. 

[methodwriter85]

You're right. It should have been AllieDevil, Evan, and Chanel. That could have worked.

I'm a little shocked that Chad and Stephanie kissed that fast, unless that was just a fantasy but I didn't think it was.

[boes]

If  Show is actually going to go the threesome route, then I think it should be Julie, Rafe and Orpheus.  They all richly deserve it.

Edited October 10, 2022 by boes

[Sidney]

5 hours ago, methodwriter85 said:

You're right. It should have been AllieDevil, Evan, and Chanel. That could have worked.

I'm a little shocked that Chad and Stephanie kissed that fast, unless that was just a fantasy but I didn't think it was.

Would that work? Allie was once raped. And having sex while being possessed is still against her will. She might be as exciting as a piece of lint but at least it would be her choice. 

[Peanut6711]

8 hours ago, boes said:

If  Show is actually going to go the threesome route, then I think it would be Julie, Rafe and Orpheus.  They all richly deserve it.

A ball gag would be a must for any group sex that includes Julie. The more people around her, the harpier she becomes. 

[Peanut6711]

2 hours ago, Sidney said:

Would that work? Allie was once raped. And having sex while being possessed is still against her will. She might be as exciting as a piece of lint but at least it would be her choice. 

In most instances, I'd say no, but being possessed by the devil actually improved Allie's character significantly.  I suppose they could get around the consent issue by simply having Allie post-possession begin to transition to a bad girl where she kept a lot of the Allie-Devil persona.  It would make more sense than all the recasts they do where they notably change a character's personality.  LA can pull it off, so really it was Ron's mistake not making her this was from get go instead of the wishy-washy mess Allie tends to be.  Plus her and Evan had chemistry together. 

I'll admit, I've seen very few episodes since the move to Peacock, but I suspect normal bland Allie in a threesome is just going to nail home (no pun intended) her indecisive I-don't-know-what-I-want nature, much like how she couldn't decide between Trip and Chanel, rather than make her saucier. 

[Sidney]

24 minutes ago, Peanut6711 said:

In most instances, I'd say no, but being possessed by the devil actually improved Allie's character significantly.  I suppose they could get around the consent issue by simply having Allie post-possession begin to transition to a bad girl where she kept a lot of the Allie-Devil persona.  It would make more sense than all the recasts they do where they notably change a character's personality.  LA can pull it off, so really it was Ron's mistake not making her this was from get go instead of the wishy-washy mess Allie tends to be.  Plus her and Evan had chemistry together. 

I'll admit, I've seen very few episodes since the move to Peacock, but I suspect normal bland Allie in a threesome is just going to nail home (no pun intended) her indecisive I-don't-know-what-I-want nature, much like how she couldn't decide between Trip and Chanel, rather than make her saucier. 

Now, I could get behind that! Afterall, she is Sami Brady's daughter! LOL

Shockingly enough, I just watched the scenes between Allie/Alex/Chanel, and Allie actually came alive in her scenes. The scenes were actually pretty good between the three, imo.

[A.J.]

10 hours ago, methodwriter85 said:

I'm a little shocked that Chad and Stephanie kissed that fast, unless that was just a fantasy but I didn't think it was.

I'm glad I did not see that.  I stopped watching their scenes together because I saw where this was going. I know this is a soap, but could we wait at least until next year (which is only 3 months away) until Chad "moves on".  He just lost the self proclaimed, "love of his life" a few months ago. Man oh man, these writers.  

[Swartz]

we can't get character writing but we get threesomes.  Great job , Ron.

I liked that Chad and Stephanie stopped.  The way they were fumbling with everything you could tell it wasn't going to go all the way.   Stephanie needs better choices. We got a guy who just lost his wife and Alex the skank.   In the meantime can we just see her with her parents.  Her mom is supposedly dying but who would know since we never see her!

[Frozendiva]

Way too soon for even a rebound relationship for Chad. Stephanie would end up being hurt and used. Alex K. Isn’t much better and if they do get together, it needs to be more of a slow burn. I don’t get these folks moving to Salem and are serious with someone within 2 weeks.

Allie hasn’t had this much life since she was possessed. I don’t see her and Chanel in it for the long haul. I ff’d the threesome scenes - kinda boring but I suppose tasteful. The show could pull Alex being a baby daddy to both Chanel and Allie, but I don’t want to go there.

EJ could not contain his glee at proving that Jake and Ava never married. First he invites her back and then an hour later, she is out.

Wonder who is blackmailing Paulina. 

[DisneyBoy]

2 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Allie hasn’t had this much life since she was possessed.

That's just a hilarious sentence.

Thank you for writing it.

9 hours ago, Swartz said:

we can't get character writing but we get threesomes.  Great job , Ron.

And there's another!

[methodwriter85]

Color me shocked. I actually liked the threesome scenes between Chanel, Allie, and Alex. It was fun, it was respectful, and I liked that they communicated well to Alex what their expectations were for this threesome and to not read anything emotional into it.

The 90's sounding jazzy music was pretty funny as well.

Johnny getting all into Ava. I like it.

I appreciated Chad and Stephanie stopping. Also, Chad sounded pretty wrecked so I don't think it would have been a good idea, anyway.

Edited October 11, 2022 by methodwriter85

[chediavolo]

I’ve been pretty intoxicated and I don’t think even in that state I would be looking to hop into bed with someone like what?, two days after my significant other was murdered, for fucks sake!

All these characters are running around town having threesomes, hooking up with someone they just met after their wife died, no one is really concerned much about the three women  in the hospital who are supposedly dying. Especially  not their own children or any other relatives. What a crock of shit. The show has become some thing other worldly. It is really no longer like the old days of our lives and I really miss it. But I just can’t stop watching out of habit. Boring old mousy Ali all into having  a threesome just makes me want to vomit in my mouth. 

[worleybird]

So now I've seen it all.

You know how when there is a big fight scene, when they roll the cast list in the closing credits they will have "Stunt Coordinator" listed?

Well, on today's episode on the cast list (beacuse of the three-way yesterday) the last listing was "Intimacy Coordinator"

OMFG!!!

[boes]

Well, it looks to me like threeways, due to what we saw yesterday, and the fact that one person is always left twiddling their...... let's call 'em, thumbs..... has definitely jumped the shark.  Between Allie, the walking advertisment for metamucil, and Ben/Alex, the boy created from the trashed parts of Malibu Ken, sexual desire of all kinds took a body blow that may prove fatal.

At least we know now what turns Kenny Corday and Ron C. on.  Only question left is if they need AA or AAA batteries.

Run, Chanel, Run for your life!

[peachmangosteen]

6 hours ago, worleybird said:

Well, on today's episode on the cast list (beacuse of the three-way yesterday) the last listing was "Intimacy Coordinator"

Oh, that's great. I'm surprised they did that since they have no money but it's the right thing to do so good for them.

Today's episode was great. Li and Wendy have amazing family chem, I'm already interested in Johnny/Wendy, I'm intrigued by the stuff with Paulina being blackmailed about Chanel, and I am SUPER into this EJ/Gabi rivalry that better lead to hate sex. Just lots of good stuff.

Do we have any idea if what we're seeing now was shot after they knew about the move to Peacock? I'm assuming so just because I can't imagine NBC would have let them get away with the threesome.

[Irlandesa]

6 hours ago, worleybird said:

So now I've seen it all.

You know how when there is a big fight scene, when they roll the cast list in the closing credits they will have "Stunt Coordinator" listed?

Well, on today's episode on the cast list (beacuse of the three-way yesterday) the last listing was "Intimacy Coordinator"

OMFG!!!

Intimacy coordinators have become pretty standard on sets where sexual intimacy will be implied.   They exist to ensure that there is clear communication about expectations and boundaries and that those boundaries are enforced.   They became more standard when more reports came out that some actors took advantage of intimate scenes to touch their screen partners in ways that made those partners uncomfortable or directors would change nudity levels asked of actors after they'd been hired.

Choreography and safety are important in sex scenes too.

Edited October 11, 2022 by Irlandesa

[Pearson80]

18 minutes ago, Irlandesa said:

Intimacy coordinators have become pretty standard on sets where sexual intimacy will be implied.   They exist to ensure that there is clear communication about expectations and boundaries and that those boundaries are enforced.   They became more standard when more reports came out that some actors took advantage of intimate scenes to touch their screen partners in ways that made those partners uncomfortable or directors would change nudity levels asked of actors after they'd been hired.

This is what happened to Crystal Chappell who played Carly and the pervert who played Bo Recast, she was constantly sexually harassed by him during their love scenes.

Edited October 11, 2022 by Pearson80

[CanaryFan98]

18 minutes ago, Pearson80 said:

This is what happened to Crystal Chappell who played Carly and the pervert who played Bo Recast, she was constantly sexually harassed by him during their love scenes.

Yes I remember MS apparently beat him up over it and that's why he got fired from Days CC quit in solidarity. At least that's how the story went back then.

RKK created better drama BTS than he did on screen I remember how he was rather awful to Sandra Ferguson during a coke binge which is why we got Evan/Amanda affair on AW.

On 10/10/2022 at 4:05 PM, Swartz said:

we can't get character writing but we get threesomes.  Great job , Ron.

I liked that Chad and Stephanie stopped.  The way they were fumbling with everything you could tell it wasn't going to go all the way.   Stephanie needs better choices. We got a guy who just lost his wife and Alex the skank.   In the meantime can we just see her with her parents.  Her mom is supposedly dying but who would know since we never see her!

Yes I don't get the need to pair her right away. Why can't we just see her with her parents and find out what her life was like before she returned to Salem that's what soaps used to do.