Jeopardy! Season 39 (2022-2023)

[Bastet]

12 minutes ago, dgpolo said:

Jacobite is the part I did get, I was working on the other half when time ran out (it is rather like having to get 2 clues in the time of 1) I also only got the halves of: dynamite; midnight; and Luddite.

The DJ rhyming categories are challenging because they generally don't have the couple of single-syllable word pairs that will appear in a first round rhyming category.  And this one had two clues with three-syllable pairs, so after whiffing the impolite Jacobite clue entirely (had no idea what a follower of King James was called and impolite wasn't among the synonyms for rude I thought of) I was happy to come up with expedite dynamite in plenty of time.

[Browncoat]

8 hours ago, proserpina65 said:

I thought the strait names looked Scandinavian so I guessed the 2 seas I thought were closed to there.  I was correct but only by chance.

That's how I guessed it, too.  I was astonished that I was correct!

The only TS I got were Brad Pitt and Chinese New Year.  

In the rhyme category, "Jacobite" came easily to me, but I didn't come up with "impolite" in time.  Or at all.

[853fisher]

Especially after reading from those who attended tapings that they had several contestants and Ken do retakes if they said "tournament" instead of "competition," I was pretty surprised they left Alicia's "tourna- competition" in the final cut.  Surely that draws even more attention to the word than the dance around it they've been doing? I've got no fu- darn idea!

[Quickbeam]

Rowan is…a lot. It’s the kind of contestant behavior that makes me back away from the TV.

[ams1001]

Didn't start out as well as I did the last couple days...

70% / 67% / 69%

J! - Ran Quick Lit and Hidden Brain, missed one Peaks & Valleys and Snap Chat, three Birds, and four Number in Music (why, no, Ken, I am not a hip hop fan; how did you guess?).

DJ - Ran nothing, missed one in DC Area Attractions and Sculpture and two in everything else.

FJ - After a few seconds of thinking I got it easily.

TS - Yorick (DD), The Woman Warrior (read it in college and still have it), Lateran Councils, Fish Called Wanda

Sorry but I was rooting against Rowan. The over-enthusiasm is just a tad much for me. (It takes a lot for me to specifically root against a player, but I will be rooting for Jack or Sadie the next two nights.)
 

[Roaster]

Wow, Rowan is SUPER fast.

I know many on this forum didn't like her smiling demeanor the first time she was on, but didn't bother me (I rarely dislike contestants), and the Price Is Right has taught us that game show producers love enthusiastic players.

I'm hoping Rowan makes it to the TOC and that she gets in a game with Matt Amodio.  That's a rematch I would like to see.
 

[PaulaO]

18 minutes ago, Quickbeam said:

Rowan is…a lot. It’s the kind of contestant behavior that makes me back away from the TV.

If she gets into the ToC I will kill myself.  Doubly if she is in the same game as Mattea who I cannot stand.

[Katy M]

11 minutes ago, PaulaO said:

If she gets into the ToC I will kill myself.  Doubly if she is in the same game as Mattea who I cannot stand.

I hope that's hyperbole.

FJ was an instaget.

I got the missed clues of Yorick, Where the Crawdads Sing (loved both the book and the movie), and A Fish Called Wanda.

I got the entire category of snapchat right.

[Browncoat]

Instaget FJ for me tonight.  I didn't even second-guess myself, I was so sure.

I also got the TS of Yorick, smokes, erne, Where The Crawdads Sing, and A Fish Called Wanda.  I am terribly sad that no one knew A Fish Called Wanda -- one of the funniest movies ever.

I would like to thank all the crossword puzzles I've done for knowing erne (can also be spelled ern).

[Mindthinkr]

That went by fast or at least seemed so with Rowan going 100 mph. I only came up with Where the Crawdad’s Sing and A Fish Called Wanda. I’ll tell a story about the latter in Small Talk. FJ was an instaget. I’m surprised only Rowan got it. 

[alias1]

2 hours ago, Roaster said:

Wow, Rowan is SUPER fast.

I'm hoping Rowan makes it to the TOC and that they get in a game with Matt Amodio.  That's a rematch I would like to see.
 

Rowan is a bit much.  But I agree.  I would love to see her go head to head with Matt Amodio again.

Edited October 27, 2022 by SierraMist

[Prevailing Wind]

YAYYY!!  I got FJ without even thinking too hard. And now I've been singing "Three Coins in the Fountain" and I'm driving the cat nuts.  She actually got up off the recliner and left the room.

[853fisher]

I'm not surprised that folks found Rowan a little much, and I can't blame anyone who felt that way, but I enjoyed seeing them today.  The over-the-top-ness of it all reminded me of friends who have been a bit heightened in all things while expressing a new identity to the world.  Usually they mellow out after a little while, but I'm sure a TV camera would have the opposite effect.

I'd be lying if I said I didn't find their exuberance a bit bracing myself, but I guess I "got" why they might be acting that way, so I didn't mind so much.  Perhaps I shouldn't presume to know what a stranger on TV could be thinking, but I was powerfully reminded of being out for lunch with someone who was addressed their new way by the server, and was a mile a minute the rest of the afternoon because it filled them with such esprit.

So, yes, I'll count myself in their corner!  But I'm really rooting for anyone / everyone - I like Sadie and Jack too.

11 minutes ago, Prevailing Wind said:

And now I've been singing "Three Coins in the Fountain" and I'm driving the cat nuts.  She actually got up off the recliner and left the room.

Any excuse to share Connie Francis records is fine by me!  "Just one wish will be granted / one heart will wear a valentine..."  I just love this one.  I don't know that I'll be singing along, though - my cats wounded my pride by fleeing the room a few nights ago under similar circumstances. ;)

Edited October 27, 2022 by 853fisher

[dgpolo]

26 minutes ago, Katy M said:

38 minutes ago, PaulaO said:

If she gets into the ToC I will kill myself.  Doubly if she is in the same game as Mattea who I cannot stand.

I hope that's hyperbole.

Because that's nothing to joke about.

26 minutes ago, Browncoat said:

I am terribly sad that no one knew A Fish Called Wanda -- one of the funniest movies ever.

I was surprised, it did seem like something one of them would have known.

12 minutes ago, Prevailing Wind said:

YAYYY!!  I got FJ without even thinking too hard. And now I've been singing "Three Coins in the Fountain" and I'm driving the cat nuts. 

Someone on Twitter was just talking about "Three Coins in the Fountain" I don't know if that's why I got it right away, but I did.

[PBnJay]

I don't remember Rowan from before, but I absolutely loved them this episode and hope they go on to do well tomorrow AND in the TofC. I am Team Rowan all the way. What a contrast Rowan was to the player in the first podium; I actually was worried about her, she looked so bleak, and this after her interview about being in therapy. I hope she recovered well and is doing okay now.

[possibilities]

Rowan's True Daily Double was gutsy and ensured their win. I agree seeing a Rowan-Matt match would be interesting because of Rowan's lightning fast buzzer skills. If you can lock him out, that's probably the only way to win against Matt.

[blueray]

I didn't remember, Rowan from before. But wow I was rooting against her. I was like "wtf?!" when she bet it all. I feel like Ken also was taken back by it. It made me really not like her. I don't like arrogant people. And I hope that she loses.

Edited October 27, 2022 by blueray

[Athena]

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[Bastet]

Great performance by Rowan; they were able to ring in on over half the questions, and got 30 of them correct.  I'm rooting for Sadie, but if Rowan wins I won't be mad. 

I'm bummed A Fish Called Wanda was a TS; I love that movie!

That Pentagon clue had no business being worth $800. 

I only ran snap and brain in the first round, but I got all but one each in Peaks & Valleys and birds, and those two were both TS, so at least I was in good company.  I missed two in lit and three in music; that should have only been two as well, but I couldn't get Three 6 Mafia from my brain to my mouth in time.

In DJ, I ran law slaw, middle O, and sculpture and got all but one (the Taft TS) in D.C.  I missed two in seconds and three in movies, so that's good for a DJ round.

For FJ, I guessed the Trevi Fountain pretty quickly, but then looked at the $3500 daily average and thought there couldn't possibly be that much and started trying to think of something else.  I couldn't, so stuck with it, but I'm flabbergasted by the amount.

[Bastet]

2 hours ago, 853fisher said:

The over-the-top-ness of it all reminded me of friends who have been a bit heightened in all things while expressing a new identity to the world.  Usually they mellow out after a little while, but I'm sure a TV camera would have the opposite effect.

I'd be lying if I said I didn't find their exuberance a bit bracing myself, but I guess I "got" why they might be acting that way, so I didn't mind so much.  Perhaps I shouldn't presume to know what a stranger on TV could be thinking, but I was powerfully reminded of being out for lunch with someone who was addressed their new way by the server, and was a mile a minute the rest of the afternoon because it filled them with such esprit.

They were like that the first time around, too, at the end of season 37; I think it's just Rowan's personality.

It hasn't bothered me either time (the first time, I remember I barely even took note of it, so was surprised to find so many comments expressing relief they didn't win).  Granted, neither I nor anyone I know is that exuberant, but it takes all kinds.

[853fisher]

15 minutes ago, Bastet said:

$3500 daily average and thought there couldn't possibly be that much and started trying to think of something else.  I couldn't, so stuck with it, but I'm flabbergasted by the amount.

Someone cleverer than me on Reddit pointed out that there are €1 and €2 coins, which add up faster than American coins in common use.  Even still, you're right - to make up $3500/€3500 (not quite 1:1 exchange rate, but close enough for this purpose), they need to collect about €2.50 for every minute of the day.  Mamma Mia!

7 minutes ago, Bastet said:

They were like that the first time around, too, at the end of season 37; I think it's just Rowan's personality.

It hasn't bothered me either time (the first time, I remember I barely even took note of it, so was surprised to find so many comments expressing relief they didn't win).  Granted, neither I nor anyone I know is that exuberant, but it takes all kinds.

Well said - I really remember very little about any of these players' earlier appearances, so I hadn't thought of it that way.

Edited October 27, 2022 by 853fisher

[secnarf]

Instaget FJ. Lucky enough to have visited the Trevi Fountain.

I like that J-Archive modified Rowan's earlier appearance from season 37 to remove their dead name entirely - especially given that Rowan has stated in interviews that they didn't love appearing on Jeopardy under a name they knew they wouldn't be using for much longer, especially as that name would now be forever tied to them through Jeopardy.

[30 Helens]

Add me to the list of disappointed by the Fish Called Wanda TS. I was really liking all three of them before that!

Kidding, I still liked them all. (But sad that movie seems to have faded from popular knowledge.) Once again, I remembered no one from their prior appearance, but for whatever reason I was rooting for Do. I felt bad for Nikkee near the end, because she looked so defeated. All I could think was, “she’s gonna need some more therapy.”

I enjoyed Rowan’s enthusiasm, and found it perfectly understandable. Not only were they getting a previously unheard-of second bite at the J! apple, they were getting an amazing do-over. Just guessing here, but I imagine the chance to fulfill this dream as Rowan, not <name redacted>, was a win in and of itself, and everything else was just gravy. Hence the big DD bet, because why not? I’ve never been in Rowan’s shoes, but I’m not sure I could have reined myself in, either. (Or would have wanted to.)

I thought of Trevi Fountain right away, but almost second guessed myself because of the dollar amount. My husband didn’t think that was so much because thousands of people go by there every day. (I just looked it up; it’s 1200 per hour!) Now I’m just wondering who gets to roll up all those coins in all those little wrappers…😉

[possibilities]

8 minutes ago, 30 Helens said:

it’s 1200 per hour!

WOW!!!

[GreekGeek]

I'm one of those who found Rowan's "big" personality a bit much, but if they make it to the ToC, I won't be unhappy. They seemed to tone it down in DJ.

I was a little taken aback by two out of the three interviews: Rowan's revelations about coming out as nonbinary and Nikkee's discussion of her therapy. Nothing shameful about either of these, but unusually frank for J! interviews. I was more surprised by the missed Yorick DD. I thought everyone (well, anyone likely to be on J!) knew "Alas poor Yorick."

For FJ I said fountains without specifying Trevi, so I guess that counted as wrong. It was a running joke between my mother and me for years that some people can't see a fountain without wanting to toss a coin in, and there is more than one fountain in Rome. The Metropolitan Museum in NY had to put up a sign by a Tiffany fountain on display not to toss coins in!

[ams1001]

10 hours ago, Bastet said:

That Pentagon clue had no business being worth $800. 

The Venus de Milo with a picture! had no business being worth $1600!

[Clanstarling]

14 hours ago, Quickbeam said:

Rowan is…a lot. It’s the kind of contestant behavior that makes me back away from the TV.

I always enjoy contestants who are enjoying themselves (in a free-spirited, not smug way). So I really enjoyed Rowan. I don't remember them from their previous performance, but since they wouldn't want their dead name to be remembered, I guess that's fine. I love the name they chose.

Frankly, I remember very few of these contestants. To be fair, I also tend to remember very few contestants in the Tournament of Champions (though this year I'll remember more of them than I usually do, given last season had an unusual number of long term champions)

I did fairly well, and got FJ. That's an astounding amount of money to collect daily from a fountain - even a famous one. But if I ever go there (unlikely) I'll be sure to be generous with my coins.

Edited October 27, 2022 by Clanstarling

[ProudMary]

59 minutes ago, ams1001 said:

The Venus de Milo with a picture! had no business being worth $1600!

There seems to be a lot of this happening lately. While it certainly depends on one's individual base of knowledge, it seems to me that several of the top row clues have been just as difficult as some of the bottom row clues. There doesn't necessarily seem to be an increase in the level of difficulty as contestants progress down the list of clues in any given category. 

Perhaps related, fewer and fewer contestants seem to start at the top and work down the categories. There's a new level of board jumping going on, even after DDs are uncovered. I guess it makes sense for those actually playing the game to try to grab the higher dollar amount clues first to build a lead and hopefully make more money, but it makes it less enjoyable for viewers IMO. Also, it makes running a category a lot less impressive when a contestant comes back to the category 2 or 3 separate times during the round in order to do it. Ken's been very good about acknowledging a category run, but when it's broken up, I honestly don't know how he's keeping track of how many correct responses one particular contestant got in one particular category. I guess someone's in his ear saying that if Player X gets the final clue in category D, they'll have run the category. To me, it makes it a less exciting accomplishment than to rattle off five consecutive correct responses in a row. JMO, of course.

[PaulaO]

I have remembered exactly zero of the contestants in this un tournament.

Wednesday’s game was a perfect example of the Forester Bounce.  I could not keep up with the constant category changes.

[ams1001]

2 hours ago, Clanstarling said:

I don't remember them from their previous performance, but since they wouldn't want their dead name to be remembered, I guess that's fine. I love the name they chose.

I remember the person, I do not remember what name they originally appeared under. It didn't even occur to me that it was a different name, just, "Oh, yeah, I remember this player." Also could not have told you who they played against.

2 hours ago, PaulaO said:

I have remembered exactly zero of the contestants in this un tournament.

I've remembered a few, but it's more a matter of recognizing the face. If you gave me names and pictures and told me to match them up, I'd probably not get many correct. 

[proserpina65]

Well, I'm out for the rest of the Second Chance Tournament.  I just can't with Rowan.  They are way too extra for me.  I'll have to check the archive to see the clues/results.

17 hours ago, Roaster said:

I know many on this forum didn't like her smiling demeanor the first time she was on

It's not a smiling demeanor, imo, it's a "Look at me!  Look at me!  LOOK AT ME DAMN IT!!!!" demeanor.  And I can't stand it.

[Roaster]

2 hours ago, PaulaO said:

a perfect example of the Forester Bounce. 

Reference to Chuck Forrest I guess.  Is the term Forester Bounce widely used?  We should have it in the forum glossary.

[GreekGeek]

1 minute ago, Roaster said:

Reference to Chuck Forrest I guess.  Is the term Forester Bounce widely used?  We should have it in the forum glossary.

I've always heard it called the Forrest Bounce.

[SoMuchTV]

16 hours ago, possibilities said:

Rowan's True Daily Double was gutsy and ensured their win. I agree seeing a Rowan-Matt match would be interesting because of Rowan's lightning fast buzzer skills. If you can lock him out, that's probably the only way to win against Matt.

There has actually already been a Rowan-Matt match - they played against each other in the last game of Season 37.  Rowan had exactly half Matt's score going into final.  Matt bet a dollar, Rowan bet it all, Matt got it right, Rowan got it wrong, and the rest is history (for a while longer, anyway).  So based on the betting strategies, they were both thinking along the lines you described (Matt having confidence in his clue-solving skills, Rowan hoping to force a face-off on the buzzer).  Oh, and, Rowan appears to be the second Second-Chance contestant who was originally done in by Harriette Tubman!  Link to The Jeopardy! Fan's recap:

https://thejeopardyfan.com/2021/08/final-jeopardy-8-13-2021.html

[Caoimhe]

1 hour ago, proserpina65 said:

Well, I'm out for the rest of the Second Chance Tournament.  I just can't with Rowan.  They are way too extra for me.  I'll have to check the archive to see the clues/results.

It's not a smiling demeanor, imo, it's a "Look at me!  Look at me!  LOOK AT ME DAMN IT!!!!" demeanor.  And I can't stand it.

Yeah I’m not watching today or tomorrow either.  I’ll also be checking who appears in the ToC games because if they get through the Second Chance Tournament Rowan is joining the list of contestants I will not watch.

[shapeshifter]

29 minutes ago, SoMuchTV said:

Oh, and, Rowan appears to be the second Second-Chance contestant who was originally done in by Harriette Tubman!  Link to The Jeopardy! Fan's recap:

https://thejeopardyfan.com/2021/08/final-jeopardy-8-13-2021.html

Huh.
And Sadie Goldberger, who is also still in the running for the TOC, is Second Chancer because of her handwriting when she correctly responded with Harriette Tubman. 
I wonder if Harriet Tubman would be disgusted with being remembered as a Jeopardy! clue even if it was linked to her legacy with the Underground Railroad.

After yesterday's buzz-saw win, I am disheartened to realize that Second Chancers cannot ever be double-digit-day champs, as Rowan would have almost certainly been if Rowan not been up against Matt Amodio during their First Chance. I couldn't help but notice how Rowan's speed and accuracy are so much like Matt's.

And now Sadie (or Jack) seems unlikely to best Rowan to advance to the TOC.
*le sigh*

I had no clue for yesterday's FJ and ran no categories.

[30 Helens]

2 hours ago, SoMuchTV said:

There has actually already been a Rowan-Matt match - they played against each other in the last game of Season 37.  

No wonder I don’t remember Rowan— that was a long time ago! Joe Buck was hosting? (I can’t tell you what he looks like either, though, so… yeah, it’s just me.)

[PaulaO]

Yep, Forrest Bounce.  I stand corrected.

[Roaster]

That was a tour de force of buzzer action.

According to J! Archive, Rowan answered 37 questions correctly, more than twice as many as Jack and Sadie combined.

[catrice2]

5 hours ago, Caoimhe said:

Yeah I’m not watching today or tomorrow either.  I’ll also be checking who appears in the ToC games because if they get through the Second Chance Tournament Rowan is joining the list of contestants I will not watch.

Yes, just another contestant that I cannot "connect" to.  Totally me, nothing to do with them.   At this point I am going to say something I NEVER thought I would.....I would rather watch Austin......

[ams1001]

63% / 77% / 70%

One of those rare games when I did better in the second round. In J! I Ran Animals, missed one Souvenir, two in Cabinet Departments and Radcliffe, and three in the others. In DJ I ran Octoberfest and Daniel Radcliffe, missed one Second Chapter and Learned Leagues, two in 3 Consonants and three in Lakes & Rivers

For FJ, I had zero confidence in my answer but I was right! 

Got the missed clues of Gulliver's Travels and Lord of the Flies (DD).

At some points I was wondering if Sadie and Jack were even playing. Hope they do better tomorrow.

[saber5055]

Add me to Team Rowan. I would love to be one of their friends, or be able to just hang around with them. It's refreshing to find someone so bright and positive and happy and outgoing AND, darn it, smart. I'd love to be able to count Rowan as a friend.

While I like many of the ToC players (except He Who Sent My Boyfriend Home), I would be pretty happy with Rowan being right up there in the tourney, if not winning the whole thing.

[Bastet]

Wow -- that game was all Rowan, especially in DJ!  Had they not gone up against Matt Amodio, nearly 20 games into his dominating run, the first time around, they almost certainly would have wound up on a winning streak of their own.

I "played" via the archive, but I may have to take a break from football at 7:00 just to watch them do their thing.

(I still have a soft spot for Sadie, but answering Sandra Day O'Connor instead of RBG is testing me.)

I got the worry beads TS because about 25 years ago my boss brought us each back a string of those from her trip to Greece, and we were all thoroughly confused, thinking they were rosaries (none of us were Catholic and most of us were atheist or agnostic), until she explained.  I almost ran the entire first round, but I joined the contestants in being stumped by cardiology (like Sadie, I guessed oncology).

I did very well in DJ, too.  I only ran October and missed three in chapters, but I got all but one each in all the rest.

I did not get FJ, though.

[annzeepark914]

I can't believe no one heard me yelling "worry beads!!!" and slapping the couch cushion in frustration, (as well as Lord of the Flies). Looks like Rowan will be playing next week. Rowan is a teence too much...but geez, so smart, so fast. 

[deemac]

I  had to turn it off, was hoping I'd come here and find a miracle had occurred.

[Browncoat]

I couldn't come up with FJ tonight, sadly.  And I was doing so well this week!  The only person I could think of was Gershwin, and I knew that was not correct.  

The only TS I got were Gulliver's Travels and Lake Louise.

Rowan is a great player, but I think they'd be exhausting to be around for very long.  I'm an extreme introvert, though.  I can't handle that much exuberance.

[alias1]

2 hours ago, Roaster said:

That was a tour de force of buzzer action.

According to J! Archive, Rowan answered 37 questions correctly, more than twice as many as Jack and Sadie combined.

To be fair, it looked like Sadie tried to buzz in quite a few times, maybe Jack too, but he wasn't as obvious.  Rowan is just so darn fast.  Wow. 

[Mindthinkr]

I just got cardiology and worry beads. I ran the categories of animals and souvenirs. I simply drew a blank on FJ. I think the date threw me off. Well back in the saddle tomorrow for some more fun. 

[annzeepark914]

It will be interesting to watch Rowan competing against the champs. I don't remember previous contestants being so incredibly fast & accurate. But then, I haven't been a weekly observer the past few years. 

[SomeTameGazelle]

I guessed Louise the instant they showed the picture before Ken started to read the clue. On the other hand I didn't come up with Lord of the Flies or Joplin.

I was unreasonably delighted to see the Daniel Radcliffe category. Since we were discussing him here a little while ago I was able to watch most of Miracle Workers and have been enjoying him a lot.