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I miss the days when something like Lou's friends getting woodies while the OC Angel girls try on bathing suits would send us in a frenzy. That and Shane telling his mom he wanted to throw a bat at her.  Is this the world we live in now?  Yup, Lablover, get back to the crappers.   

LOL Right?  Why in the hell did we hate 'Whori Lauri' so much?  Because she was sleeping with a guy with money?  Because her condo had cat crap in it? She was a terrible parent? Pshaw.  Kid stuff compared to what some of the Housewives are dishing out now.

 

I do believe Tamra may have less fans than Aviva.

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Not so sure bout that one,  But she'd steal her father & fake leg if she thought it would help her stay on the show.

Oh, next story line for Tamra....a DNA test.  "My mom was a whore?"  Who would be shocked? That's not nice. Karma.

 

If something happens to me, can you all start a reality award scholarship for the most pathetic kid in RHOC history in memory of me? I'd say roidRyan.  A bike a thon with Teeths would guarantee me a golden ticket of redemption.  You have my permission to NOT give it to baby nugget.

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Lablover, I can never link from my phone but just google Tamra Judge Instagram. I don't think you have to have the app to view it. The picture where she said don't listen to the rumors is the picture right before the "will work for food" pic. And oh the comments are brutal. I haven't seen her respond to any though. Gretchen responds to a lot of her instagram comments. Of course what else does she have to do?

I really don't think Tamra is going anywhere. Up until recently, she has been a model Bravo employee. She may get a warning for her recent actions, but she has always been willing to stir the shit for Bravo.

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So Tams is NOT fired now?  Ugh, stop toying with me, tabloids!  It's really, really mean!  I haven't been this happy & excited since Gretchie poo & Slade got the boot.  Um, oh yeah, I forgot, she says they left on their own (suppressing giggles).

 

Maybe she didn't get fired cuz they need someone there to cause conflict, so maybe the idiot producers & Bravo are convinced they need her.  Ugh.  Keep in mind, they may have been upset with Brandi for revealing salaries, but they didn't fire her cuz of it.  Drats.  This sucks big time.

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Of course Tamra is not fired. Not to say that she won't be, but there is zero chance Bravo would make this decision and let it out in any fashion prior to the season finale and the reunion. Zero.

Tamra is horrible - the most horrible HW in the history of the franchise. She is also probably the most loyal HW Bravo has ever had up until recently. She has stirred up a lot of shit and she has pissed a lot of folks off, but she has always taken 100% responsibility for it. Probably the only good thing I have ever had to say about Tamra is that she doesn't blame production when she comes off looking badly like some of the other ladies do. It has been said over the years that she gets along very well with production, shows up when she is suppose to, and doesn't act like a diva during filming. She can be counted on to bring the drama, and fuel the fire on social media. She is exactly what Bravo wanted until recently. I think, however, that they will tell her to knock it off and they will bring her back. It would appear that she is going through a lot of shit with the custody deal, and I think that in the end, Bravo will reward what was her loyalty to all things Bravo because they think the stress might have been too much.

As someone mentioned above, Brandi didn't get fired over the salary reveal, and it was a bigger deal. No one actually believes that some of the stuff we see on this show is not producer-driven fuckery, but the salaries are a different story. Bravo has gone to the end of the earth to keep this private. Stories are written about it, but it is always just speculation because Bravo will confirm nothing and HW's - even ones that were long ago fired - don't really talk about it. Brandi said that after she gave up that info, she was basically yelled at by every VIP at Bravo, and she was assigned a network lawyer who had to be present at every interview she did. That had to be a pain in the ass for them, but they kept her any way.

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Oh, no. I just had a TERRIBLE thought--"Tamballs--'Lookin' for Redemption/Searchin' for Salvation'" next season. Oh, God.

 

A "Trucker with Tits" vile, disgusting, trailer trash Tamballs, I can take.

A 'plying a woman with alcohol and siccing your gross, rapey-eyed spawn on her' Tamballs, I can take.

A nasty, up the arse-taking BEARD Tamballs, I can take.

An "I've had a disadvantaged, beleaguered past, and 'when you know better, you do better'" Redemption trope Tamballs, I CANNOT take. <smh>

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Of course Tamra is not fired. Not to say that she won't be, but there is zero chance Bravo would make this decision and let it out in any fashion prior to the season finale and the reunion. Zero.

Tamra is horrible - the most horrible HW in the history of the franchise. She is also probably the most loyal HW Bravo has ever had up until recently. She has stirred up a lot of shit and she has pissed a lot of folks off, but she has always taken 100% responsibility for it. Probably the only good thing I have ever had to say about Tamra is that she doesn't blame production when she comes off looking badly like some of the other ladies do. It has been said over the years that she gets along very well with production, shows up when she is suppose to, and doesn't act like a diva during filming. She can be counted on to bring the drama, and fuel the fire on social media. She is exactly what Bravo wanted until recently. I think, however, that they will tell her to knock it off and they will bring her back. It would appear that she is going through a lot of shit with the custody deal, and I think that in the end, Bravo will reward what was her loyalty to all things Bravo because they think the stress might have been too much.

As someone mentioned above, Brandi didn't get fired over the salary reveal, and it was a bigger deal. No one actually believes that some of the stuff we see on this show is not producer-driven fuckery, but the salaries are a different story. Bravo has gone to the end of the earth to keep this private. Stories are written about it, but it is always just speculation because Bravo will confirm nothing and HW's - even ones that were long ago fired - don't really talk about it. Brandi said that after she gave up that info, she was basically yelled at by every VIP at Bravo, and she was assigned a network lawyer who had to be present at every interview she did. That had to be a pain in the ass for them, but they kept her any way.

One thing is for certain - there is no consistency in the retention or release of RH by Evolution Media/Bravo.  With a lot of scrutiny over the heavily set up plot lines there comes a time when they have to ask-is anything that comes out of a particular RH even believable anymore?  I think that time has come for Tamra.

 

Although Tamra is going through a custody modification, the viewers have no real connection to her children, as they haven't been on for almost five years. Does the addition of an eight year old make for entertaining TV?  Misbehaved teenagers were OC's previous trademark.   I don't think she does herself any favors by lobbying for custody and then having repeat conversations of her "black out drinking".  As to revealing production secrets, I do think Tamra knows how far she can push it and still stay within the lines.  Brandi crossed over but she was at such a high point in popularity (never could stand the woman and saw no reason for her on the show) that Bravo chastised and moved on. 

 

What Tamra has been unable to do so far this year is have the break through that leads her to redemption.  I didn't buy it last year so there is pretty much nothing she can do to redeem herself other than give up Heather Dubrow and that is unlikely because Evolution Media produces Terry and Paul's show.

 

Bravo and particularly Andy Cohen, keep getting all excited that their ratings are trending on social media.  Social media does not equate to viewers.   So unless Tamra hits a home run at the Reunion at the expense of others, as she has done in the past, she may very well have rendered herself unbelievable. Last season in order to get ratings up Bravo brought Lauri back for nothing more than to stir up old stories about Vicki.  No one wanted Lauri around by season's end and even her Reunion performance was unsympathetic.  Who knew they didn't need Lauri-they had Briana there to do it for them.

 

Sometimes the best cast shakeups involve executing the most controversial. 

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It's not over until the howife sings. Any howife, past or present - Melissa, Kim Z. , Luann. With or without autotune. I'd love to see Backdoor Tammy gone, but I wouldn't be surprised if they kept her. It does sound like Lizzie is done, though. I didn't love her or hate her, she was kind of meh. But it's always disappointing to think the person who deserves to go stays, and the one with an ounce of class walks. But that makes more sense. 

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Mu Shu, last year, my friend and I once called and said we wanted to have a girlfriend's bachelorette spin work out - with Eddie. There are 20 of us, could we decorate. "Oh yes, oh yes, just let us know. We need the names and they will need to each go online to register and pay and when is ...." Click. I couldn't go through with it. Karma scares the shit out of me. Karma doesn't reach out through here, does it?

I'm in MV and I have a girlfriend in RSM. All you have to do is say the word and we'll dig our yoga pants out of the bottom drawer (or make a quick run to Kohl's) and join you. Lol!
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OMG there are so many wonderful snarkers here!! Some of y'all need to RUN, not walk, over there to REality Tea and apply for the new recapping position. They got a looooooot of crap they need reviewed!!! Pretty please with champs, tequila and onion rings on top!!

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Of course Tamra is not fired. Not to say that she won't be, but there is zero chance Bravo would make this decision and let it out in any fashion prior to the season finale and the reunion. Zero.

Oh, motorcitymom65, you're breaking my heart and crushing my dream!!!

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OMG there are so many wonderful snarkers here!! Some of y'all need to RUN, not walk, over there to REality Tea and apply for the new recapping position. They got a looooooot of crap they need reviewed!!! Pretty please with champs, tequila and onion rings on top!!

 

Don't forget the taters for David Beador.   :)

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Please clue me in cuz I've never been to OC so if these are local terms, I'm lost.  What's RV & RSM?

 

Mission Viejo and Rancho Santa Margarita.  All outside those precious gates ;) 

 

You know, now that I think about it, it's only Vicki who lives behind those gates now.  Well, Jeana does, but she's no longer on the show (hey, Shane got his real estate license, saw that on her FB page).

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Thanks, Lablover!  :)  Gosh, Jeanna & her charming brood are a distant memory, eh?

They need to come back and escort Tamra out of OC.

 

For all you OC folks-correct me if I am wrong, isn't where Tamra lives Landera Ranch and Newport Coast miles away from each other?  I found it odd that people around town were saying Shannon was crazy.  It seemed very suspicious to me and I am hoping it is something Tamra and snotty Heather answer to at the Reunion.

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And let's not forget that Ladera Ranch (where Tamra/Eddie and Slut Fitness are located) is NOT a gated shi shi community like the one Vicki lives in (Coto de Caza).

Ladera Ranch is just another cookie cutter "all homes look the same" community that is not considered the land of the rich and the home of the elite. It's just another

Spanish style condo/home community that looks exactly like a thousand other places in South Orange county.

I'm a bit behind on watching these episodes but I am getting a vibe from Tamra's creepy son's girlfriend (can't remember her name) that she might be doing these uncomfortable  appearances on TV so she can hopefully get her own reality show. If you're an honest, down to earth person who is truly just in love with this man, you would opt to NOT be on any episodes of your future mother-in-law's reality tv show. 

Lablover: where to you live? Are you anywhere close to Orange County CA? I'm putting my vote in for YOU to be the next REAL housewife of the OC!

Lots of great posters on here with such dry, sarcastic wit. I love reading all of your posts, but hate the format here at PT. New here, but not leaving any time soon.

One last question "DO YOU DO ANAL?" lol

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I don't think Tamra and Eddie will make it past another year. Eddie seems like he isn't into all of the fake b.s. that goes on with the RHOC

show. And Tamra is obviously 100% crazy.

I wish him the best in finding a woman that is real...unlike Tamra. And when he meets that woman, he will want to have children with her.

He knows Tamra is NOT the woman he wants to be the mother of his children.

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I figured with Gretchen and Alexis gone that maybe Tamra wouldn't be quite as mean spirited especially with the addition of Shannon.  However, when I saw that Lizzie was joining, I knew it would be a matter of time before Tamra would try to bully Lizzie.  Though I think Lizzie is different that she isn't as dumb as Gretchen nor as naive as Alexis was.

 

I always wondered if the show wanted to toss Tamra but wanted to wait to see how the new housewives


I figured with Gretchen and Alexis gone that maybe Tamra wouldn't be quite as mean spirited especially with the addition of Shannon.  However, when I saw that Lizzie was joining, I knew it would be a matter of time before Tamra would try to bully Lizzie.  Though I think Lizzie is different that she isn't as dumb as Gretchen nor as naive as Alexis was.

 

I always wondered if the show wanted to toss Tamra but wanted to wait to see how the new housewives fared.  It seems as if Shannon has taken off due to actually being somewhat real and honest (imagine that... someone coming on to show their life.. not hawk a product).. and Lizzie is slowly taking off (thought sadly I have a feeling she'll be a one season wonder like Lydia was.. probably for the best).

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According to Tamra from seasons past, she doesn't eat in the summer. She has to be so miserable. Hungry, hated, botched face and custody battle. Thank gawd Eddie has a tiny weenie or she would really be in a world of hurt.

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I hope that the "Tamra meltdown" we have been lead to believe will be oh so dramatic will be more so than the "leg toss seen 'round the world."

 

I think it would be amazing if it ended the same way.

 

With Tamra making an absolute blithering fool of herself....and everyone in the restaurant standing around laughing at her, just like they did with Aviva.

 

(Yes, I have my one-way first-class ticket to hell already bought and paid for.)

 

 

Of course Tamra is not fired. Not to say that she won't be, but there is zero chance Bravo would make this decision and let it out in any fashion prior to the season finale and the reunion. Zero.

 

MotorCityMama, you're pissing on my delusional singing of Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead, LOL!   (J/K, I love ya!)

 

Maybe you're right.  But I'm hoping, if nothing else, Tamra grossly was in breach of her Bravo contract when she released confidential information about another Bravo employee.  Surely there must be something to that effect buried within that War and Peace sized contract all Bravo participants sign.

 

I would think if they really want to unload that clam there has to be an enforceable clause in that contract.  

 

I mean, what would be next for Tasmanian Tamra?  

 

Offering her fans a free pre-programmed GPS monitor leading straight to her least favorite housewife's front door?  

 

Hopefully there's some legal reason after that stunt Tamra pulled that they're "forced" to let her out of her contract.  

 

*fingers/toes/eyes crossed*

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I have only started watching this season but I get the feeling that Eddie is authentic in saying he doesn't want kids. No matter who the woman is.

I think that Eddie is authentic in not wanting children with Tamra. When they were in Spain a season or two ago, he was asking her about having kids as he wanted to have one or two, and she gave a talking head that said she needed another kid like she needed a hole in the head, but she had to "reel him in" as though he were a fish, so during the scene she demurred and pretended that she would be interested in having more kids. 

 

I'm sure that after having seen that episode, and watching Tamra's "mothering skills" with Ryan and her kids with Simon, Eddie realized that kids with Tamra just would not be a good idea. So, I think if he had met and married someone else, kids would still be on the table. But, he chose Tamra and wisely decided that having children with her would not work. In fact, he probably realized that his marriage had a much better shot at surviving if the two of them did not procreate. 

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And let's not forget that Ladera Ranch (where Tamra/Eddie and Slut Fitness are located) is NOT a gated shi shi community like the one Vicki lives in (Coto de Caza).

Ladera Ranch is just another cookie cutter "all homes look the same" community that is not considered the land of the rich and the home of the elite. It's just another

Spanish style condo/home community that looks exactly like a thousand other places in South Orange county.

I'm a bit behind on watching these episodes but I am getting a vibe from Tamra's creepy son's girlfriend (can't remember her name) that she might be doing these uncomfortable  appearances on TV so she can hopefully get her own reality show. If you're an honest, down to earth person who is truly just in love with this man, you would opt to NOT be on any episodes of your future mother-in-law's reality tv show. 

Lablover: where to you live? Are you anywhere close to Orange County CA? I'm putting my vote in for YOU to be the next REAL housewife of the OC!

Lots of great posters on here with such dry, sarcastic wit. I love reading all of your posts, but hate the format here at PT. New here, but not leaving any time soon.

One last question "DO YOU DO ANAL?" lol

 

Mr. Lablover and I didn't try that tonight.  Had a great time though ;)  I live in Rancho Santa Margarita, outside the precious gates.  Imagine walking into to the grocery store, with your grocery list in your hands, and there is Cut doing demonstrations on the dirty sidewalk while you are grabbing a shopping cart. 

 

We didn't do anal tonight.  Psshst, having a 16 year old daughter sucks when you don't live in a 13k square foot home.  We don't have a secret bat man cave secret door to a tea room.  I couldn't make the dolphin sound anyways.  I fucking throw punches.   Freaks.  {Uh, maybe he likes the punches}  :)

 

I absolutely hate those girls who brag about sex.  Freaks.  To a certain friend: you literally were wiping his drool off his mouth and he couldn't make it to the couch and then you talk about your sex.  Ick.  Freaks.  I'm sure Eddie is always thinking about how much air is in his tires for the morning before he bangs.  Freaks.

 

I'm so romantic.

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I wish him the best in finding a woman that is real...unlike Tamra. I wish him the best in finding a woman that is real...unlike Tamra. And when he meets that woman, he will want to have children with her..

If he in fact wants kids I suspect he wouldn't have married a woman who's starting menopause. On the other hand, I'm guessing that Tam's Bravo salary is going  a long way toward paying their various bills and propping up a failing business (which was obviously started as a plot device).

 

Just saying...

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Mr. Lablover and I didn't try that tonight.  Had a great time though ;)  I live in Rancho Santa Margarita, outside the precious gates.  Imagine walking into to the grocery store, with your grocery list in your hands, and there is Cut doing demonstrations on the dirty sidewalk while you are grabbing a shopping cart. 

 

We didn't do anal tonight.  Psshst, having a 16 year old daughter sucks when you don't live in a 13k square foot home.  We don't have a secret bat man cave secret door to a tea room.  I couldn't make the dolphin sound anyways.  I fucking throw punches.   Freaks.  {Uh, maybe he likes the punches}  :)

 

I absolutely hate those girls who brag about sex.  Freaks.  To a certain friend: you literally were wiping his drool off his mouth and he couldn't make it to the couch and then you talk about your sex.  Ick.  Freaks.  I'm sure Eddie is always thinking about how much air is in his tires for the morning before he bangs.  Freaks.

 

I'm so romantic.

Who knew Eddie thought at all?

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Oh, no. I just had a TERRIBLE thought--"Tamballs--'Lookin' for Redemption/Searchin' for Salvation'" next season. Oh, God.

A "Trucker with Tits" vile, disgusting, trailer trash Tamballs, I can take.

A 'plying a woman with alcohol and siccing your gross, rapey-eyed spawn on her' Tamballs, I can take.

A nasty, up the arse-taking BEARD Tamballs, I can take.

An "I've had a disadvantaged, beleaguered past, and 'when you know better, you do better'" Redemption trope Tamballs, I CANNOT take. <smh>

I thought they did that last season, with her teen suicide story and metaphorically throwing her mother, who was sitting in the audience, at some lame womyn's conference, under the bus?

My two weeks in Texas has made me fall behind, but I caught the part where she got upset about her creepy son getting married to a woman who looks like her (wow, so much psychological stuff there!) that he met on instagdam that month.

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Oh, no. I just had a TERRIBLE thought--"Tamballs--'Lookin' for Redemption/Searchin' for Salvation'" next season. Oh, God.

A "Trucker with Tits" vile, disgusting, trailer trash Tamballs, I can take.

A 'plying a woman with alcohol and siccing your gross, rapey-eyed spawn on her' Tamballs, I can take.

A nasty, up the arse-taking BEARD Tamballs, I can take.

An "I've had a disadvantaged, beleaguered past, and 'when you know better, you do better'" Redemption trope Tamballs, I CANNOT take. <smh>

 

I am going with health scare either herself or a family member. I really hope they don't attempt to rehab her. Those attempts are always so damn transparent.

 

Tamra does have family material next year what with Rapey Ryan knocking up his mother figure fiancee which he is engaged to after a 2 month instagram hook-up and being a step dad to 3 girls. We would get the intro to their NRA loving lifestyle up in the boondocks of CA. 

 

Backdoor Tamra ain't going nowhere. She isn't a fan fave but never underestimate the worth of a damn good villain. I think there is a lot of love to hate with Tamra as opposed to with unpopular HWs like Jill or Aviva where people just hate them and want them off their screen. Plus also as has been mentioned, she is a damn good Bravo employee and doesn't give production any headaches unlike demanding ass Jill and Aviva who refuses to travel. 

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So Tams is NOT fired now?  Ugh, stop toying with me, tabloids!  It's really, really mean!  I haven't been this happy & excited since Gretchie poo & Slade got the boot.  Um, oh yeah, I forgot, she says they left on their own (suppressing giggles).

 

Maybe she didn't get fired cuz they need someone there to cause conflict, so maybe the idiot producers & Bravo are convinced they need her.  Ugh.  Keep in mind, they may have been upset with Brandi for revealing salaries, but they didn't fire her cuz of it.  Drats.  This sucks big time.

I think the show would go flat if Tamra weren't on it.

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I think the show would go flat if Tamra weren't on it.

It might.  How many times is Tamra going to do something to make Vicki look bad, lie about someone before it is entirely unrealistic that anyone would befriend Tamra?

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I'm in MV and I have a girlfriend in RSM. All you have to do is say the word and we'll dig our yoga pants out of the bottom drawer (or make a quick run to Kohl's) and join you. Lol!

 

Add me to the list.  I'm in RSM and I would drag myself to Cut in order to glare at Tamra in person.

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I think the show would go flat if Tamra weren't on it.

 

I don't agree. 

 

A pot stirrer can easily be sought out, even a villainess can be found.  I think Heather and Terry would be an excellent replacement for that role especially Mr. Dubrow :)

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Add me to the list.  I'm in RSM and I would drag myself to Cut in order to glare at Tamra in person.

 

I went to her first soft, soft, SOFT opening.  Isn't her location shitty?  Her youngest son, Spencer, couldn't have looked more tortured sitting in the lobby.  Dang, RoidRyan has changed since then - for the worse.  Lose the creepy beard dude. 

 

I'm always finding Tamra.  In front of Pavilions doing a demo...at RSM city hall at those community concerts with her tent set up.  I get to glare at her all the time.  Next time, we have to meet so we can glare and snark together.

 

I'd take a flat show any day if they fired Tamra.   Miss Terry could fix that right up if he didn't botch it.

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I went to her first soft, soft, SOFT opening.  Isn't her location shitty?  Her youngest son, Spencer, couldn't have looked more tortured sitting in the lobby.  Dang, RoidRyan has changed since then - for the worse.  Lose the creepy beard dude. 

 

I'm always finding Tamra.  In front of Pavilions doing a demo...at RSM city hall at those community concerts with her tent set up.  I get to glare at her all the time.  Next time, we have to meet so we can glare and snark together.

 

I'd take a flat show any day if they fired Tamra.   Miss Terry could fix that right up if he didn't botch it.

 

Yes, the location is really awful.  They really needed a place like where OrangeTheory is - - in the Pavilion's shopping center.  Of course they also need to be open in the mornings before people go to work or after hours, when people get home.

 

Somehow I have missed seeing Tamra in person, anywhere around RSM or Ladera.  Don't know how I have gotten so lucky.  I haven't seen Vicki whoo-hooing over town either. 

 

Definitely let me know the next time you are gearing up for glaring.  We can make it a group event.  Double points if we can make Tamra run away crying.

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I'm watching the entire ep in which creepy Ryan tells Tamra he's marrying his surrogate mother and have an idea for Tamra's redemption/fix arc: Tamra learns how to cry so she doesn't look like she's dabbing her eyes while passing an impacted turd.

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I agree, that Eddie did want children at one time.

After seeing Tamra showcase her mothering skills, he quickly changed his mind.

Being a step father to 3/4 children is a lot for some people. Having Tamra as the mother of these children is I'm sure, a hell of a wake up call. Thinking about what will happen to your own children, made the decision easy.

That didn't stop him from marring her. I guess, that Bravo paycheck was too good to walk away from.

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So, I hate HATE this bitch, but I have a theory (I'm a psychologist but this is totally arm chair psychology, since I only know what I see on tv and internet):

Tamra said last year that she started having sex at 14, right? That's really freaking young and, clearly, this woman (then girl) has always been looking for some sort of validation from anyone, but definitely men. Something sexual either happened to her at some point or she was really missing something significant, because the degree of sexual acting out and intense anger (over everything & anything) is extreme.

Remember back in season 4 or 5, when she confronted her father about the trauma of her parents' divorce at the tender age of 25 (the lovely scene w them sitting in folding chairs with their backs to some water while they faced a busy road)? In that episode, her cousin was weirdly sexually inappropriate w Ryan. I wouldn't be surprised if something weird went down in that trashy family.

No matter what, I still hate her.

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So, I hate HATE this bitch, but I have a theory (I'm a psychologist but this is totally arm chair psychology, since I only know what I see on tv and internet):

Tamra said last year that she started having sex at 14, right? That's really freaking young and, clearly, this woman (then girl) has always been looking for some sort of validation from anyone, but definitely men. Something sexual either happened to her at some point or she was really missing something significant, because the degree of sexual acting out and intense anger (over everything & anything) is extreme.

Remember back in season 4 or 5, when she confronted her father about the trauma of her parents' divorce at the tender age of 25 (the lovely scene w them sitting in folding chairs with their backs to some water while they faced a busy road)? In that episode, her cousin was weirdly sexually inappropriate w Ryan. I wouldn't be surprised if something weird went down in that trashy family..

That's not the only sexually inappropriate behavior between her and Ryan. I recall a scene in her first season on this show involving Ryan finding one of her thong underwesr in his room and doing something at their neighborhood birthday party that pissed Simon off. I remember my parents, who don't watch this show happened to see those scenes in passing and commented on it.
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I wouldn't be surprised at all if you were correct, DeeplyShallow. She definitely has boundary issues. But yea, that's no excuse. Explanation maybe, but no excuse for shitty behavior. Plenty of people who were sexually abused do not act like a vile shrew. 

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That's not the only sexually inappropriate behavior between her and Ryan. I recall a scene in her first season on this show involving Ryan finding one of her thong underwesr in his room and doing something at their neighborhood birthday party that pissed Simon off. I remember my parents, who don't watch this show happened to see those scenes in passing and commented on it.

I missed that. What did that creep do?

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DeeplyShallow, I remember that episode well and it bothering me (dare I say it) MORE than the "Naked Wasted" episode. 

 

Tamra and her family were having dinner at some dumpy place near where her father lived.  Ryan was sitting next to Tamra's cousin who was at least 20 years his senior.  She asked if he'd like to see the tattoo of a mouse she had on her hip.  He said okay, then when she moved her pants to show him, Ryan said "I can't see anything" to which she replied "oh, the puss must have eaten it."

 

Now that's a highly inappropriate conversation to have with anyone unless you are about to jump their bones - but to say something like that to your younger cousin?  Yeah, there was some serious trauma in that family. 

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DeeplyShallow, I remember that episode well and it bothering me (dare I say it) MORE than the "Naked Wasted" episode.

Tamra and her family were having dinner at some dumpy place near where her father lived. Ryan was sitting next to Tamra's cousin who was at least 20 years his senior. She asked if he'd like to see the tattoo of a mouse she had on her hip. He said okay, then when she moved her pants to show him, Ryan said "I can't see anything" to which she replied "oh, the puss must have eaten it."

Now that's a highly inappropriate conversation to have with anyone unless you are about to jump their bones - but to say something like that to your younger cousin? Yeah, there was some serious trauma in that family.

I remembered that very well too because I threw up a bit in my mouth. I also remember Tamara talking about a very young Ryan (5 or 6 I think) being very agressive with her friends (stripper friends if I remember correctly). He would sneak between their legs to look up their dresses and try to grab at them or something. Tamara laughed it off, but I remember thinking that it was behavior that would trouble me if my child was doing it. Something is really off in that family.

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Yeah, that scene made me ill as well.

I missed that. What did that creep do?

I wish I could remember but I think I'm conflating it with Tamra standing over a water fountain at a water park. I think there was some bumping and grinding or something like a lap dance... I just remember thinking "how odd" and Simon getting pissed about them behaving that way with children around.

Now that I am thinking about it, Simon seemed to be competing with Ryan for Tamra's affections and was not happy about the situation.

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