S07.E07: May Be The Last Time

[Izeinwinter]

Okay, at this point, I think we have to consider that Jason is a goddarn incubus. Hoyt's sweetheart likes him enough to follow him on a trip from one of the only safe places on earth into... well, basically, hell-on-earth, and she is still showing interest? Nobody is that hot. It's goddarn farie glamour. Which in turn implies that the only women he ever slept with who can be considered to have been in their right minds at the time are Jessica and Violet. Erh.. So, Jessica. 

 

The doctor suddenly having urgent buisness elsewhere when she learned Sookies Bloodline was hilarious. 

Theory: Nial's bloodline has a twisted version of the universal fairy telepathy. The reason every human in bon-temps is so stupid is that every time she reads their minds, she makes them ever so slightly dumber. She is, basically, a walking disaster area. 

 

Violet put the frighteners on Adilyn to get Jessica to show up., and that is also why she was playing them so gently up until that point - appears a vampire cant use the blood bond to find someone who is calm. That house is just hilarious, tough.

Edited August 4, 2014 by Izeinwinter

[roctavia]

He returned to them and exposed himself -- as a vampire, hee hee -- and freaked Caroline the hell out. Lorena had to glamour her to forget the whole thing, and scolded Bill for thinking he could still be part of their human world. I could swear we already knew that Caroline lived to old age. We do know that his daughter Sarah grew up and married (her daughter married into the Bellefleur clan) and Bill visited her when she was on her death bed.

 

Bill in S4 does say something about Caroline being part of the arbor society and a giving member of the community for like 50 years or something, so I think she lived out her normal life.

[Morrigan2575]

He returned to them and exposed himself -- as a vampire, hee hee -- and freaked Caroline the hell out. Lorena had to glamour her to forget the whole thing, and scolded Bill for thinking he could still be part of their human world. I could swear we already knew that Caroline lived to old age. We do know that his daughter Sarah grew up and married (her daughter married into the Bellefleur clan) and Bill visited her when she was on her death bed.

Thanks for the explanation, I don't know why I had it in my head that they killed his human family...maybe I'm getting confused with Angel?  LOL

[Primetimer]

True Blood takes another solid step toward the finish line. Now if only everyone would realize their path to happiness starts with ending Sookie!

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[missmarple]

I'm sad to see the show go out this way -stuffed with filler and flashbacks.  I barely watched this episode or the previous one and have no intention of re-watching either of them later.  What I will miss are the forums, boards and live chats -"the community," that grew around the show. This is  a great forum and will miss everyone posting.

I won't say goodbye yet but -only three episodes left?  The goodbyes are coming sooner than I'd like.

[sjohnson]

Bridget being supernatural would strengthen the resemblance to Hoyt/Jessica/Jason. 

It could mean she has nefarious motives instead of just wanting to get Jason into the middle of a group hug.

Ryan Kwanten sold Hallucination Jason as an evil harbinger of guilt, death and torment I thought.

Edited August 4, 2014 by sjohnson

[valandsend]

In Arlene's dream, Keith said he is 515 years old, and then confirmed that as his exact age when he actually did visit her at the bar. So I guess that means there's more going on in these dreams than what's in the human's head -- there must be some telepathic link with the vampire.

 

The nice thing about all these guest cameos is that the ending won't feel rushed when it finally comes. At least I hope it doesn't.

 

And I know it makes for a good visual, but could Bill and Sookie have at least turned down the lights a little?

[marceline]

Ah Sookie. Once a danger whore, always a danger whore.

 

This season seems determined to highlight the big problem that has plagued this show from the beginning: too damn many stories playing at once. What was the point of showing Lettie Mae and Lafayette? Why did we waste all this time with Wade/Adalyn even going so far as to send Andy and Holly on an out of state road trip? I'm guessing that's so the only person who can save Adalyn is Jessica. And who gives a fuck about Bill's human life? At least Hoyt, is having a reasonable response to losing someone he loved. Sookie's lost her man and her "best friend" within days and all she can think about is boning. I guess she and Jason aren't really so different after all.

[ChlcGirl]

Am I the only one disappointed with the lack of character deaths in the last two episodes?!?

Come on True Blood!! Kill some more characters off!!

[DollEyes]

This episode was, for the most part, as Sookie said when she learned she was fae, "fucking lame." Of course, 90% of the lameness was Sookie and Bill-related. It's hard to believe that someone as awesome as Niall could have a descendant who's, well, Sookie. Niall's telling Sookie that Bill was wrong for her was great. The only things that would have been better would have been Niall's refusing to help Sookie and if Niall asked Sookie where all her concern about saving a man she loved was when it came to Alcide. Re the Bill flashback of the week, I don't give a shit about the Courtship of William Compton, Human. It bores and annoys me, just like Bill and Sookie do, separately and together. I also did not want nor need to see Sookie and Bill fucking again. Every time Anna Paquin and Stephen Moyer do a sex sscene it's creepy and pornographic and so not in a good way. I saw more love between Andy and Holly at the lake house than I do between Sookie and Bill. Speaking of Andy and Holly, my heart goes out to them. Adalin and Wade shouldn't have run away nor trusted Violet, but they're the victims. Other characters have done just as bad or worse than violet, but that doesn't make her less evil (which she's not) nor that she should get away with it, which she shouldn't. Andy and Holly have been through enough Hell already without losing Adalin and Wade on top of it. The way I see it, Adalin and Wade's being captured by Violet isn't their fault. The real guilty parties are Violet and, to a lesser extent, Jason and Jessica.

 

  Ever since S1, Jason's thinking with his dick has gotten him in trouble. It's gotten him arrested, framed for murder (IIRC), cost him his best friend and nearly gotten himself killed. Now it looks like Jason's about to betray Hoyt all over gain with Hoyt's new girlfriend Bridget, just like he betrayed Violet with Jessica, as if Violet wouldn't even suspect it, much less find out. If Violet hadn't heard Jason and Jess herself, then chances are she would've glamoured it out of Jason anyway. I don't blame Jason for being scared of Violet; however, I do blame him for tempting fate without even considering the consequences, namely the repercussions of pissing off a centuries-old, sociopathic, brother-fucking vamp. Unfortunately, Adalin and Wade learned about Violet the hard way, but it was Jason and Jessica who knew about Violet's crazy all along, but were too horny to care. Whatever Adalin and Wade are going through, I blame Violet, Jason and Jessica, not Adalin and Wade.

 

  Leave it to Sarah to find a new way to hurt her sister. First, Sarah backed Hep V, which made Amber sick, then gave her the cure which lead to Amber's protecting her and Eric's foolishly True Death-ing her because of it. Contrary to Sarah's opinion, she's not a "good" person because if she was, Amber wouldn't have gotten sick in the first place nor would she be on Eric and Gus Jr.'s shit list. Not only did Dream Jason, Steve and Yoga Guy know how bad Sarah is, deep down she knows it too. BTW, Sarah, since you're no Kelly Taylor, you don't get to "choose [yourself]."

 

 

Since everyone and their brother is coming back (which I do enjoy), I better get Russell digging out of a concrete block and killing everyone.

 

  Since Eric gave Russell the True Death a couple of seasons ago, that won't happen unless it's a dream sequence.

 

  If I saw a couple of crazies digging up my front yard without my permission, I wouldn't call my mama, I'd call the cops.

 

If I were Sam, I'd run from Bon Temps like Dr. Ludwig (hi, Doc!) runs from faes.

 

 

And I'm really rooting for [Violet] to kill those dumb kids. Sorry Andy but they are really really really dumb.

 

  If dumbness was a crime in Bon Temps then most of the people in general and Jason and Sookie in particular should have died years ago.

Edited August 4, 2014 by DollEyes

[TiffanyNichelle]

Jason not being able to control himself because Hoyt's girlfriend is pretty felt really ridiculous. Hoyt left town because Jason slept with his last girlfriend and now he's trying to do it again? Jason should be better than this. Get it together!

 

GhostJason haunting and taunting Sarah was creepy. He had a real nasty edge that we haven't seen from Jason since season one.

 

It was nice to see Niall and Dr. Ludwig again.

 

If Violet had a house that nice nearby, why was she staying at Jason's? And I'm really rooting for her to kill those dumb kids. Sorry Andy but they are really really really dumb.

Edited August 4, 2014 by TiffanyNichelle

[catrox14]

IMO, Ryan Kwanten owned this episode.  He has long been IMO the best actor on the show and this episode gave him a chance to really show his acting skills.  I loved all the different forms of Jason he played.  That was the only worthwhile part of this stupid episode.  Gods, shut up SOOKEH! So tired of her and Bill.

[annlaw78]

 

The way I see it, Adalin and Wade's being captured by Violet isn't their fault. The real guilty parties are Violet and, to a lesser extent, Jason and Jessica.

Yeah, Adilyn and Wade are big dumbies, but given that the entire adult population of Bon Temps is running around without a care at night (hey, Mayor Sam, maybe you want to think about a curfew during these uncertain, dangerous times of hungry, Tru Blood-less vampires?), and Violet has been presented as a "friendly" vampire.  Plus, both of them are probably too young (Adilyn certainly is) to recall a time in which vampires were not out-of-the-coffin and presented as upstanding community members (I can't recall if the show's various time jumps have eventually gotten it back up to "real time," or if the span of the show is a compressed 2-3 years). 

 

I can't even really fathom how this would be Jason and Jessica's fault, as Violet's plan is so convoluted, it took me awhile to even connect the dots as to why her response to Jason's cheating on her/breaking up would be to go after Andy's daughter.  Does Violet even really know how wracked with guilt Jessica is over killing Andy's other daughter's, or does she just think Adilyn and Jessica are pals?  This elaborate, Dr. Evilish plot of Violet is strained, to say the least. 

 

 

If Violet had a house that nice nearby, why was she staying at Jason's? And I'm really rooting for her to kill those dumb kids. Sorry Andy but they are really really really dumb.

Seriously.  And spoiled.  What, the backseat of the truck isn't good enough for you two to snog in?  It's your bed at home WITH YOUR PARENTS IN THE NEXT ROOM, or some sketchy vampire's Mansion of Iniquity?   Kids these days!

Edited August 4, 2014 by annlaw78

[Chicken Wing]

Yeah, I'm totally at a loss as to what Violet's grand psycho plan is supposed to be for. Is she going to hurt Adilyn and set up Jessica for it? I thought that at first, but in the previews I think we see Jessica tied up as well, so it would be hard to make that story work if people realize that Jessica was in danger also. Did she just need to bring Jessica running so she could torture her and kill her? Surely there were easier ways to come face to face with Jessica, like maybe going to her house and knocking on the door?

[calliope1975]

  Since Eric gave Russell the True Death a couple of seasons ago, that won't happen unless it's a dream sequence. 

 

Oh yeah. Shows you how much I remember. I had to go look up Russell's death since I've apparently blocked out everything after S3. Okay, dream sequence then. Or flashback. I'm good with either.

[roctavia]

Jason not being able to control himself because Hoyt's girlfriend is pretty felt really ridiculous. Hoyt left town because Jason slept with his last girlfriend and now he's trying to do it again? Jason should be better than this. Get it together!

 

GhostJason haunting and taunting Sarah was creepy. He had a real nasty edge that we haven't seen from Jason since season one.

 

It was nice to see Niall and Dr. Ludwig again.

 

If Violet had a house that nice nearby, why was she staying at Jason's? And I'm really rooting for her to kill those dumb kids. Sorry Andy but they are really really really dumb.

 

I actually don't think Jason is losing it over Hoyt's girlfriend more than he just thinks she's attractive... But I think his guilt over what happened with Jessica is making him super paranoid and magnifying her attractiveness. Like he is so determined to be good to Hoyt that his subconscious is sabotaging him thanks to his guilt... like he's afraid he's going to hurt Hoyt all over again and he can't stop it. I don't think anything is actually going to come of it- since I think Jason is better than that.

 

I do wonder how far away Violet's house is... and yes, why is she staying in Jason's crappy basement when she's got a crazy mansion? Surely she could have talked Jason into playing with some of her toys. I don't want Adilyn and Wade to die...yes they are stupid, but that's not surprising. Violet is still the bad guy here, and I've been waiting for her to die all season.... please please please can that happen soon?

 

As to Violet's plan... she is all about the old school betrayal/payback. So Adilyn gave her a great opportunity to lure Jessica onto her turf, which makes it easier to tie her up and torture her. Violet doesn't know Bill is sick, and though she is older than him, showing up at his house to snatch Jessica isn't necessarily a good idea. This gives her more time. She doesn't just want to Kill jessica/Jason...she wants them to suffer.

[Chicken Wing]

I have no idea what kind of cruel tricks this show has left up its sleeve before the final credit, but by golly I don't want anything to happen to either Adilyn or Wade. I care nothing about these two, really, but I can't stand the idea of Andy losing his last daughter because you know he will never recover from that, and Wade is just too sweet and harmless to die just for being attached to Violet's bait. Let them live, please, mmkay?

[terrymct]

She said she had no "natural" predators. The fae probably don't qualify as natural.

 

Or Dr Ludwig could have been trying to avoid the s$%t storm of stupid that accompanies the royal fairy family wherever they go in space or time.

[valandsend]

I do wonder how far away Violet's house is... and yes, why is she staying in Jason's crappy basement when she's got a crazy mansion?

I figured the mansion was somewhere else in Louisiana ... too far away for Jason to commute to his job every day. That leads to the question, why didn't she sell it and buy a better house in Bontemps for them? There was probably a discussion between the two of them in the six months that we didn't get to see.

 

The recap has the spelling of Sarah's new name as "Newmie" -- or is that supposed to be a joke? I've been hearing it as "Noomi" ... which I just realized sounds like "New Me" (duh).

[roctavia]

I figured the mansion was somewhere else in Louisiana ... too far away for Jason to commute to his job every day. That leads to the question, why didn't she sell it and buy a better house in Bontemps for them? There was probably a discussion between the two of them in the six months that we didn't get to see.

 

The recap has the spelling of Sarah's new name as "Newmie" -- or is that supposed to be a joke? I've been hearing it as "Noomi" ... which I just realized sounds like "New Me" (duh).

 

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Violet never told Jason about it... though I suppose we might find out next week if he knows where to go to find Violet if Jessica goes to him for help...

 

The captioning has Noomi spelled Noomi... but I think the recap was being clever ;)

[CletusMusashi]

I'd been hearing it as "Numi," as in "New Me." In fact, she's been getting so much screen time that lately, whenever she appears, I've been greeting her with a Seinfeldesque "Hello... Numi."

Back to the question of Bitch Manor: How does she keep the place tidy without a Renfield or Alfred? A house that size doesn't just dust itself, you know. Seems kind of OOC that during the weird Jason-hazing arc at the beginning of the season she passed up an opportunity to stick him into a French maid outfit and get some housework done.

Edited August 4, 2014 by CletusMusashi

[pandora spocks]

Adilyn was wise to pass on using Violet's dildo collection.  Who knows where those things have been or in what orifices they've been used?!

[CletusMusashi]

They should call it the Bubonic Plug.

[phoenix780]

I thought Violet's plan was pretty simple...until she went to the house (though I guess the home turf advantage is a good one).  I'm curious why she doesn't even seem to want to drink Adilyn at all, even a little bit.  

 

There is something...nice, I suppose, if they all beat the vampire concentration camp and probably Hep-V but their little group is shattered by...Jason cheating on Violet and breaking her heart or whatever.  Especially since they've been together, what, 6 months, and only had sex for the first time a day ago.

Edited August 4, 2014 by phoenix780

[bookrat]

Why isn't Bill being arrested for the murder of the lawyer?

[Chicken Wing]

I'm still trying to figure out why he was never charged for murdering the damn governor.

[roctavia]

Why isn't Bill being arrested for the murder of the lawyer?

 

Nobody knows he was there- he gathered his papers before he left, when he was just going to leave... until she kept talking and pissed him off. There was no sign in... or any sort of record that he was there.... Plus who knows if there are even any authorities available to investigate or who would even bother since she was working with a ton of infected vampires... 

 

Nobody was trying to arrest the roving bands of infected vamps...

 

And it's True Blood... the main vampires can kill mean people and get away with it.

Edited August 4, 2014 by Jjrmt

[fastiller]

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Edited August 4, 2014 by fastiller

[annlaw78]

 

Nobody knows he was there- he gathered his papers before he left, when he was just going to leave... until she kept talking and pissed him off. There was no sign in... or any sort of record that he was there.... Plus who knows if there are even any authorities available to investigate or who would even bother since she was working with a ton of infected vampires...

Not sure how he beat a hasty and anonymous exit, given it was daylight, but oh well.  You're right, don't overthink it.

 

I'm still scratching my head why he didn't hit up Portia Belleflour for legal help (and re-glamour her).  Or just add Jessica's name to all his accounts and titles. 

[roctavia]

Not sure how he beat a hasty and anonymous exit, given it was daylight, but oh well.  You're right, don't overthink it.

 

I'm still scratching my head why he didn't hit up Portia Belleflour for legal help (and re-glamour her).  Or just add Jessica's name to all his accounts and titles. 

 

I'd think that Bill didn't want people to know that he was infected, at least not in the town...  But yes, simply putting Jessica on the accounts/deeds not tied to his death in anyway would be the simplest.

 

But really, this was all plot device, the writer pretty much admitted that. Bill just telling Jessica that he was infected was boring, so getting him out of the house so she could overhear and tell Sookie was far more dramatic. Plus it's true blood it gave them a chance to parallel other rights struggles when it comes to partners etc. (The writer took example from her own life and difficulties she's had with her partner navigating the legal system as a gay couple) and also the chance to have a gruesome death.

[SourK]

Violet's plan is boring. Why did she wait before showing them her true colors? It just felt like filler.

 

I think, because the sun was about to come up, she let them chill out all day so that Jessica couldn't sense where they were, and then she waited to scare them until she was rested. Her plan still seems dumb for other reasons, though, so it's not like I'm defending her.

 

My favorite part was that, even though it was the middle of the day when Niall told Sookie that Bill's condition couldn't be changed, she just had to wait until the middle of the night to head over to Bill's.

 

And change her clothes! I understand needing a minute to yourself to process the situation and decide what you want to do, but it does seem like she hung around for a really long time before deciding that she urgently needed to be with Bill.

 

Not sure how he beat a hasty and anonymous exit, given it was daylight, but oh well.  You're right, don't overthink it.

 

I forgot about this last week, but wasn't there also some dialogue about how he would have to take their special taxi service if he left in the middle of the day, because he wouldn't be able to drive his own car?

[annlaw78]

 

I forgot about this last week, but wasn't there also some dialogue about how he would have to take their special taxi service if he left in the middle of the day, because he wouldn't be able to drive his own car?

Yes, and for an extra fee, Anubis would drive his car back home for him.  So there was that option, though presumably he'd have to ID himself to Anubis to get his car back... which would be problematic fleeing a murder scene.

[Critic]

"Arlene is Hep-V positive! Did we know that?"

Yes - it was established when Eric fed from the Anubis Air flight attendant a few episodes back that once a Hep-V vamp feeds from a human, that human is Hep-V positive. (Not entirely sure how that works, since it's a one-way exchange of fluids, but...I'm not a vampire medical doctor.) And since Arlene offered herself up for the Hep-V Schoolteacher Vamp at Fangtasia...there you go.

[roctavia]

Yes, and for an extra fee, Anubis would drive his car back home for him.  So there was that option, though presumably he'd have to ID himself to Anubis to get his car back... which would be problematic fleeing a murder scene.

 

He arrived home at dark... maybe the wait was longer than 5-7 hours... and the sun went down early ;)

[Chicken Wing]

And since Arlene offered herself up for the Hep-V Schoolteacher Vamp at Fangtasia...there you go.

 

And if that didn't do it, having the entire nest almost draining her to death near the end undoubtedly did the trick. I assume Holly is Positive now, too.

[AlwaysWatching]

For some reason, I have not been bothered all that much with the Bill flashbacks. Since the first of this season, I've been thinking these flashbacks have had to have a reason other than Bill history. I think Bill is going to die the true death and be reunited with Caroline-his only true love. Ahhhhh. Just guessing and realizing that would be a great ending for Bill. Eric? He must live, or, uh, not die the true death. I don't know if I expect any kind of happy ending for the show, I just hope there is a decent ending.

It does appear that they are trying to give every past character some screen time. Sookie, I suppose, is the end game, but not with a lover. Just Sookie, Jason, Lafayette, Jessica, Sam and all the Bellefluers left to go on existing in Bon Temps. Or, maybe the town will be disappeared. heh I have no idea. But, I've been a fan from the start and a fan to the end - regardless of how they choose to end it all.

[perseophonedreams]

This is how I see the Niall and Sookie connection.  Niall showed Sookie the memory of Bill waiting for his daughter's birth to show her that no matter what Sookie did, she would never be the love of Bill's life.  I think that the reason why Bill has been having so many flashbacks is because Caroline is his true love.  Caroline isn't amazingly beautiful, yet to Bill she's beyond comely.  I think this is one of the bits of evidence to show the emotional link between Bill and Caroline.  If Bill is flashing back to his first wife after all these years, there is definitely not room for Sookie in his life.  I think Bill loves Sookie, but like how Sookie loved Alcide.  Bill is Sookie's first love but Sookie is Bill's replacement love.

 

Anyhow, I think that Sookie realized this which is why she rushed over to Bill and made love to him, she wants to believe that she's his one and only, but it's not true - she'll never have Bill's whole heart.

 

I, too, was upset at Jason's uncontrollable lust for Hoyt's girlfriend.  Not because she is Hoyt's girlfriend, but because I thought he supposedly loved Jessica.  Hoyt's girlfriend and his interaction with her was really weird.  

[roctavia]

This is how I see the Niall and Sookie connection.  Niall showed Sookie the memory of Bill waiting for his daughter's birth to show her that no matter what Sookie did, she would never be the love of Bill's life.  I think that the reason why Bill has been having so many flashbacks is because Caroline is his true love.  Caroline isn't amazingly beautiful, yet to Bill she's beyond comely.  I think this is one of the bits of evidence to show the emotional link between Bill and Caroline.  If Bill is flashing back to his first wife after all these years, there is definitely not room for Sookie in his life.  I think Bill loves Sookie, but like how Sookie loved Alcide.  Bill is Sookie's first love but Sookie is Bill's replacement love.

 

Anyhow, I think that Sookie realized this which is why she rushed over to Bill and made love to him, she wants to believe that she's his one and only, but it's not true - she'll never have Bill's whole heart.

 

I, too, was upset at Jason's uncontrollable lust for Hoyt's girlfriend.  Not because she is Hoyt's girlfriend, but because I thought he supposedly loved Jessica.  Hoyt's girlfriend and his interaction with her was really weird.  

 

 

I don't think love runs out... and while Caroline was the love of Bill's human life, his past life (I mean, if you loved the person you were with and thought you were heading off to war and might die, of course they are the love of your life.. Bill couldn't foresee that he'd be turned vampire and live many lifetimes) I think he meant it in S4 when he told Sookie she was the love of his life.

 

What I took away from all the flashbacks is a couple of things- one that when Bill loves someone, he loves completely... which holds true for both Sookie and Caroline. Loving one doesn't undo the love of the other.

 

There is also just Bill reliving his past before he dies, sort of that life flashing thing... but also there are parallels between his courtship with Sookie and Caroline. He was told he had to marry Caroline sight unseen and agreed prior to meeting her-for his father, to do the right thing even if initially it wasn't what he wanted (luckily their arranged marriage was a love match)... while it's not exactly the same, he was sent by the queen to meet Sookie... to do a job, but instead fell in love with her... so both relationships weren't organic in how they started. But even when he met Caroline, they sat down to talk and all eyes were on them... just like when Bill and Sookie sat in Merlotte's together in S1 "Every person in this bar is staring at us" very similar...

 

Maybe Sookie is Caroline reincarnated or something...

 

As for Sookie seeing the birth of Sarah, I think the main point was still to bring up the miracle aspect of things, the miracle of life and death and love and birth... it will tie in to whatever happens with the cure and the finale ( I hope!)  Having a baby with someone doesn't mean you love them and only them.

Edited August 5, 2014 by Jjrmt

[CletusMusashi]

But really, this was all plot device, the writer pretty much admitted that. Bill just telling Jessica that he was infected was boring, so getting him out of the house so she could overhear and tell Sookie was far more dramatic. 

So... the writers actually don't want Bill's scenes to be boring? Okay, I am now officially confused.

[Blakeston]

She said she had no "natural" predators. The fae probably don't qualify as natural.

 

I think it's pretty disingenuous to boast "I go wherever I please, because I have no natural predators" if you know that you have supernatural predators, and you're terrified of them.

 

Unless she thought that the fairy royalty had all died out?

 

As for Sookie seeing the birth of Sarah, I think the main point was still to bring up the miracle aspect of things, the miracle of life and death and love and birth... it will tie in to whatever happens with the cure and the finale ( I hope!)  Having a baby with someone doesn't mean you love them and only them.

 

There are lots of ways to bring up the miracle thing, though, without showing Bill's wife giving birth.

 

I took it that Niall was saying, "There's no miracle that can save Bill, but I want you to know that miracles are real, and here's proof of them." But wouldn't it make more sense to show Sookie her own birth? Or Bill's birth, for that matter?

 

I think the writers must have had a reason to focus specifically on Bill's happy family there. Maybe because he'll have the chance to have another kid? Maybe because Caroline is still out there as a vampire, and they want to show us as much of her as possible before bringing her back? Maybe to emphasize that Bill was more moral as a human than as a vampire?

[pootlus]

I also did not want nor need to see Sookie and Bill fucking again. Every time Anna Paquin and Stephen Moyer do a sex sscene it's creepy and pornographic and so not in a good way.

God yes. Seeing the two of them together like that makes me deeply uncomfortable. They should have nixed Sookie/Bill (or at least the explicit sex scenes) the moment those two hooked up in real life IMO.

I saw more love between Andy and Holly at the lake house than I do between Sookie and Bill. Speaking of Andy and Holly, my heart goes out to them. Adalin and Wade shouldn't have run away nor trusted Violet, but they're the victims. Other characters have done just as bad or worse than violet, but that doesn't make her less evil (which she's not) nor that she should get away with it, which she shouldn't. Andy and Holly have been through enough Hell already without losing Adalin and Wade on top of it. The way I see it, Adalin and Wade's being captured by Violet isn't their fault. The real guilty parties are Violet and, to a lesser extent, Jason and Jessica.

Agreed - love Andy/Holly and even though Wade/Adylin are dumb they don't deserve to get hurt. And even though Violet is a psycho bitch and I want her to die, I'm impressed by how the actress can flip from friendly, naughty older sister vibe to violent psychopath in a heartbeat, so kudos.

Judging from the promo for next week it looks as if her plan succeeds as

Jess goes to rescue Adylin and is captured by Violet.

Andy's so going to open a can of whoop-ass on Violet, I can't wait. Hopefully Holly gets to use her magic.

 

Ever since S1, Jason's thinking with his dick has gotten him in trouble. It's gotten him arrested, framed for murder (IIRC), cost him his best friend and nearly gotten himself killed. Now it looks like Jason's about to betray Hoyt all over gain with Hoyt's new girlfriend Bridget, just like he betrayed Violet with Jessica, as if Violet wouldn't even suspect it, much less find out.

Jason's sudden and apparently irresistible attraction to Bridget is bizarre and, much like the Bill flashbacks, I do not see the point. There are three episodes left, we do not have time for yet another "Jason's dick gets him into trouble" subplot!

If I saw a couple of crazies digging up my front yard without my permission, I wouldn't call my mama, I'd call the cops.

The girl was pretty young, I don't have a problem with her yelling for Mom first.

 

If I were Sam, I'd run from Bon Temps like Dr. Ludwig (hi, Doc!) runs from faes.

Yes, if he had a modicum of sense, but then as you so rightly go on to say:

 

If dumbness was a crime in Bon Temps then most of the people in general and Jason and Sookie in particular should have died years ago.

I did like the scene with Sam and Arlene though.

This episode had not nearly enough Eric and Pam.

[patchwork]

Bill meeting the true death wont make his flashbacks any less boring but they would serve a purpose. His last act before joining Caroline could be to turn Sookie (years later and vampire!Sookie is still my preferred TB ending).

 

It was nice to see Niall and Dr. Ludwig again but enough with the filler episodes!

[DrSparkles]

I also did not want nor need to see Sookie and Bill fucking again. Every time Anna Paquin and Stephen Moyer do a sex sscene it's creepy and pornographic and so not in a good way.

Yes x1000.

[roctavia]

God yes. Seeing the two of them together like that makes me deeply uncomfortable. They should have nixed Sookie/Bill (or at least the explicit sex scenes) the moment those two hooked up in real life IMO.

 

 

The sex scenes don't bother me.... they are still acting and it is the characters doing it, not the actors (if that makes sense). And though this probably doesn't matter to some, since you might wish we never had a Bill/Sookie sex scene ever in the show... but they've been together since the pilot.... so.... yeah would made for a difficult first season if they didn't have any sex scenes.

 

I do think this one had some different undertones, since Bill is dying, but I liked the call back to S1 and their first time together.   At least hepV is just weird veins, which could easily be thought of as something like a tattoo instead of weird sores or falling off bits like rotting Pam.

[Mei]

Maybe I'm being Captain Obvious right now but I'm just remembering that Sookie brought up the fact that she has the power to take out a vampire, but it would be a one time thing. Anyone think she going to use her one time hit on Violet?

 

Or maybe she'll mercy-kill Bill? Lol.

You might be onto something though, as far as them bringing that up...

[paramitch]

This episode cemented for me that I actually like this season. Yes, there are moments of awkwardness, and lord save us from the especially awkward over the top sex scenes that manage to be explicit yet unsexy and simply make me wonder about the awwwwwkward filming mechanics.

 

I realized this week that I still care about our core crew. I care about Sookie and Bill, and Eric and Pam. I care about Arlene and was moved by her admission of her unhappiness. I care about Jason and Sam and Floyd and Jessica and Bill and Andy and all the others.

 

I realize the show can be clunky but it still works for me. I actually like the way it's returned to basics, to bringing our core group on the show together. I'm interested to see where it goes.

Edited August 5, 2014 by paramitch

[Mattipoo]

I am so over this pointless and boring season. Only saving grace of the episode for me was Dr. Ludwig and her giant black Hummer.

Edited August 5, 2014 by Mattipoo

[DollEyes]

 

God yes. Seeing [Anna Paquin & Stephen Moyer]  together like that makes me deeply uncomfortable. They should have nixed Sookie/Bill (or at least the explicit sex scenes) the moment those two hooked up in real life IMO.

 

  ITA. When I see those scenes, I don't just see the characters, I see the actors and it makes me feel like I'm watching a sex tape that I don't want to see.

 

 

The girl was pretty young, I don't have a problem with her calling for Mom first.

 

  I don't either TBH, but I find LM & Lala's just showing up and digging up someone's front yard without permission too batshit crazy for me, even by Bon Temps standards.

 

  Re Violet's plan, my problem with it is that it's not just punishing Jason and Jessica, the ones who wronged Violet, it's punishing Andy, Holly, Adalin and Wade, who don't even know what Jason and Jessica did to Violet, much less have anything to do with it.

Edited August 5, 2014 by DollEyes

[Blakeston]

All across the internet, I've seen comments from a lot of people who are angry at Jason for being attracted to Hoyt's girlfriend.

 

I can certainly understand the reaction of "Ugh, this is probably going to be a stupid plotline." But I'm not sure I understand why people think Jason is an ass for being aroused. Unless I missed something, he hasn't acted on that arousal.

 

I mean, this is Jason Stackhouse. He's going to get horny any time he sees a hot young woman. I don't think he can turn off those feelings just because the woman is an inappropriate sex partner. And he was clearly angry at himself for having those urges. I'm not going to be angry at the character just for being aroused.

Edited August 5, 2014 by Blakeston

[monakane]

Speaking of undying love, I think the whole Bill flashback endgame is that Caroline is an infected vampire and is going to come back to Bon Temps.

 

I think Bill is remembering his past life because he is going to choose death to be reunited with his family.  I think Caroline may also be a ghost.  I actually find the flashbacks to Bill's former life the most interesting part of the episode.  I still hate Sookie.