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HunterHunted
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He didn't commit these various crimes in the past couple of years. He's been pulling this shit for more than a decade. Nine license suspensions, including the last one which was a DUI. While his licen

geauxaway
geauxaway

Good grief.  This man did not rape, murder, molest, abuse or otherwise commit any horrific crime and y’all want him to basically be dead.  He served his time (and more), and is now “gone” from the Uni

HunterHunted
HunterHunted

To paraphrase a horror movie trope "The call is coming from inside the house." The people who tipped off the feds to Teresa and Joe's shenanigans are...Teresa and Joe. When your wife with the simian h

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Gigi43

Gigi43

Italy is extending lockdown to the whole country not just the north, which includes no gatherings in bars and restaurants so he may be feeling like its a new form of prison. How old is Joe ? Is he 50 yet? Here in NY they were talking elderly/seniors first but now they're starting to say "over 50" which is 15yrs younger than "senior." If over 50 and how much is seems to be spreading in Italy Joe could very well be hunkered down with a supply of wine (and toilet paper. Toilet paper seems to be the biggest hoarding item all over the world.)

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Gigi43

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7 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I guess he will call Tre in a drunken stupor and blame her for the virus and the fact that he is stuck in Italy. 

 

Gia could be echoing it. At the very least she's probably blaming the US government for sending him back to a country that's now being quarantined. She'll want to sue if he gets sick.

 

To all you wonderful fellow posters I hope y'all stay as healthy as you can and don't get caught up in a toiler paper stampede.  

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Hiyo

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Italy is extending lockdown to the whole country not just the north

Yes, they did that after I posted about just the north being in lockdown...

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Well, I guess he could be ticked off because the girls won't be able to visit on spring break.

I hope it's that and not all the potential women he could be hitting on now that he is free from Teresa.

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Gigi43

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More people die from Viagra (heart attacks and drug overdose) everyday than this Corona virus 🦠. People here are frantic because government is ridiculous with 🔒down !!!! Sorry Lock down not for me Never again !!!!! Stay safe 🌎 eat healthy, exercise, and no shaking hands . 🧼 👏! #coronavirus #staysafeoutthere #lockdownnotcool #awarenessiskey #washhands

 

 

My linking is screwed up but I HAD to quote the apparent rampant.... Viagra overdose problem. WHAT? He has another post stating that he wasn't breaking the law by going outside and doubling down on that people shouldn't be afraid. Thanks, but my lung function sucks as is, I'll chose fear that healthy people will take that for granted with themselves and come around those of us who are at higher risk now that's its in NY. At least he's in favor of hand washing. *eyeroll*

 

Meanwhile if I had to guess Joe Gorga's probably walking around NJ thinking his dick will somehow keep him safe.

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Baltimore Betty

Baltimore Betty

OMG!  Picture it, Sala Cosalina Italy 2010...I am watching an old episode where they all went to Italy and they are all eating pizza in Naples and Caroline makes a comment, "they are eating like they are going to jail," camera pans to Joe!  

On the way to Joe's future home I mean Joe's parents house he is bitching about the hotel bill non stop, the kids are bouncing off the seats and he says, "Yous all have to be civilized when we get to town," Caroline is crying laughing at Joe, nobody is fighting, the scenery is beautiful, I miss those days.

Then Danielle comes on the screen along with Danny and I turn the channel.

 

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Gigi43

Gigi43

43 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

OMG!  Picture it, Sala Cosalina Italy 2010...I am watching an old episode where they all went to Italy and they are all eating pizza in Naples and Caroline makes a comment, "they are eating like they are going to jail," camera pans to Joe!  

On the way to Joe's future home I mean Joe's parents house he is bitching about the hotel bill non stop, the kids are bouncing off the seats and he says, "Yous all have to be civilized when we get to town," Caroline is crying laughing at Joe, nobody is fighting, the scenery is beautiful, I miss those days.

Then Danielle comes on the screen along with Danny and I turn the channel.

 

 

I was watching the s2 marathon today too. The Italy trip was so nice and not a misery-fest. Caroline losing it at "let's all be civilized" is my favorite moment of hers. 

 

I saw Audriana's Christening and damn it really stands out now how there's one shot of Kathy and Melissa at a table like when you go back and see foreshadowing in Sci-fi/drama shows for future stories. Teresa probably has a fit seeing it, as they were probably trying to get in with the show back then. 

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Baltimore Betty

Baltimore Betty

2 hours ago, Gigi43 said:

 

I was watching the s2 marathon today too. The Italy trip was so nice and not a misery-fest. Caroline losing it at "let's all be civilized" is my favorite moment of hers. 

 

I saw Audriana's Christening and damn it really stands out now how there's one shot of Kathy and Melissa at a table like when you go back and see foreshadowing in Sci-fi/drama shows for future stories. Teresa probably has a fit seeing it, as they were probably trying to get in with the show back then. 

That christening was the start of the War of the Roses along with the Hair Pull, "Tick as Tieves," the Table Flip seen around the world...so many fine moments, good times.

How about those outfits Tre's girls were wearing at the family dinner  in Italy , hoop skirts and pantaloons...I wonder if the kids have see that episode these days, it is cringe worthy to look at!

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SweetieDarling

SweetieDarling

I find it interesting that the girls are so attached to and defensive of Joe. I get the impression, from their reactions, that, maybe, he's the better parent. At the one dinner (Easter?) Audrianna was getting upset and Gia remarked that she missed cooking with Joe and other activities. I got the impression he interacted with them more (when T was "at camp" vs how T was with them while he was away)Teresa is more concerned about money and appearances, tho, apparently, Juicy likes his Gucci as well. I just kept getting the impression this season, that he was a more hands on parent than she is, mostly from the girls' adoration of him and rolling their eyes at Tre.

Plus, didn't he take the girls to visit her all the time, and she barely took them to see him? From what she said, it sounded like she didn't take them to see him nearly as often.

 

 

 

 

 

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geauxaway

geauxaway

14 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

I find it interesting that the girls are so attached to and defensive of Joe. I get the impression, from their reactions, that, maybe, he's the better parent. At the one dinner (Easter?) Audrianna was getting upset and Gia remarked that she missed cooking with Joe and other activities. I got the impression he interacted with them more (when T was "at camp" vs how T was with them while he was away)Teresa is more concerned about money and appearances, tho, apparently, Juicy likes his Gucci as well. I just kept getting the impression this season, that he was a more hands on parent than she is, mostly from the girls' adoration of him and rolling their eyes at Tre.

Plus, didn't he take the girls to visit her all the time, and she barely took them to see him? From what she said, it sounded like she didn't take them to see him nearly as often.

 

 

 

 

 

I wonder if some of it is nostalgia on their part?  I have no doubt those girls love and adore their dad, but they haven’t lived with him for 4 going on 5 years.  I think it’s maybe a little bit of a case of the grass is greener and selective memory.  Which is completely understandable!  I think we all go through phases of this I’m one way or another throughout our lives.  

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Gigi43

Gigi43

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Joe has a crapton of faults, but he did go to activities with the girls, gymnastics, karate, soccer etc. Teresa was dragging Gia to auditions to be an actress and model and who knows how interested she ever really was in those things (now she likes the camera!) Joe was probably the one encouraging the non-glam activities which seem to be what they stuck with. Joe was home a lot -part of the problem of course- and Teresa's mom did a lot but in their heads they likely just remember it as Teresa going on book tours and HW promotional stuff in the years leading up to prison and Joe being home with them. I do think Tre did not take the girls to see Joe as much because she was pissed at him, which is straight up wrong. However the girls, Gia especially, do need to chill out. There will be no St. Juicy Day. 

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Gigi43

Gigi43

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I'm bored as hell, can't go out or have people over who still have to go out to necessary places, so I'm gonna speculate about Teresa vs. the Giudices. Pete telling Gia about the cheating, if true, is shitty and there's no excuse. I say if true because it was on TMZ and I don't believe Gia doesn't look for stories about her family. 

 

It's possible the Giudice's blame Teresa's spending habits for Joe's trouble, just like the Gorga's entirely blame Joe and there is blame to share. However I've long suspected Teresa keeps the kids from the Giudice family. I've seen pics of  them going away for holidays/breaks or pics of Teresa with the girls on holidays. Does she ever say they can go over to see their widowed grandma for holidays or is it all about her widowed father? I didn't spot Joe's mom at Gia's prom gathering although I could have missed her. Supposedly they were close. There's also the fact that Teresa seems to have not made a huge effort to take the kids to see Joe as much, probably from spite. 

 

There was a Bravo aftershow this season where Dolores, Teresa and Melissa basically justified the use of the C-word saying that's how Italian men are (NOPE.) Frank definitely said it to Dolores and even though Joe Gorga said once he never says that Melissa did not push Joe never said it she was on the "it's how they are" train, so he definitely did. The roasting of Juicy over the coals when Joe Gorga isn't any better and Andy now letting Teresa in the inner circle, it used to be Joe and Melissa got away with scapegoating Joe/Teresa as the bad people and now Teresa is allowed in to scapegoat Joe with her as totally the victim. The way Joe spoke to Teresa was gross. The way Joe Gorga has spoken to Teresa in the past has been  gross as is how he speaks to Melissa and definitely says worse in private. Andy's now buying into "Joe's debt" erasing her role in it. 

 

It sucks the girls have to be put through this. On the other hand Milania Giudice (I just have a feeling she's the most likely one day) and Hannah Gosselin's tell-all's in the future are ones I'm waiting for.

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BrindaWalsh

BrindaWalsh

That is so sad.  I truly believe that man was just lonely and died of a broken heart.

The Giudice family has been through a lot in recent years.  Yes, plenty as a result of their own doing, but this is a lot for anybody.  I don't even think they can come together and grieve and celebrate his life as they normally would and that makes it even harder. 

I especially feel for Audrianna.  She is only 10?  My own parents died within 3 years of each other and my oldest is Audriannas age.  One is hard enough, but three grandparents is gutwrenching as a child.  

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Mahamid Frauded Me

Mahamid Frauded Me

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I agree- I think his grandkids ( especially Tre's daughters) kept him going. He missed his wife terribly, you could see him cry everytime she was brought up in conversation. He is with her now and at peace. I can't stand Teresa, but my heart hurts for her and her family at this time.

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BrindaWalsh

BrindaWalsh

Teresa might discover, as this passes, an element of relief.  It may sound horrible, but when you are the "primary-caregiver" in the so-called-sandwich generation, as Teresa was with her father, simply due to the fact that he lived with her, there are levels of stress and anxiety that exist as a result that you don't even realize. 

It is an odd feeking.  Losing the "last" parent is awful, losing any parent is awful, but her father is now at peace.  And Tre may find some peace now as well.

 

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Gigi43

Gigi43

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57 minutes ago, BrindaWalsh said:

Teresa might discover, as this passes, an element of relief.  It may sound horrible, but when you are the "primary-caregiver" in the so-called-sandwich generation, as Teresa was with her father, simply due to the fact that he lived with her, there are levels of stress and anxiety that exist as a result that you don't even realize. 

It is an odd feeking.  Losing the "last" parent is awful, losing any parent is awful, but her father is now at peace.  And Tre may find some peace now as well.

 

 

I know her father had health problems but it seems like he was pulling a lot of weight for her, as much as she was acting put upon to Joe Gorga. Her dad was driving the girls around while she was on HW trips this season. This is going to be more on Gia's plate or Gabriella expected to do more, imo.

 

I think Teresa's parents are from where Joe Giudice is, so presumably Mr. Gorga got to return to his hometown this fall when he went with them which is a really nice thing.

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amarante

amarante

1 hour ago, BrindaWalsh said:

Teresa might discover, as this passes, an element of relief.  It may sound horrible, but when you are the "primary-caregiver" in the so-called-sandwich generation, as Teresa was with her father, simply due to the fact that he lived with her, there are levels of stress and anxiety that exist as a result that you don't even realize. 

It is an odd feeking.  Losing the "last" parent is awful, losing any parent is awful, but her father is now at peace.  And Tre may find some peace now as well.

 

My father died of old age at 99. He was essentially fine except for the last two years when he required a full time helper and was in and out of hospitals because he had congestive heart failure and it was a balance in terms of the heart and the kidneys.

I expect somewhat like Nonna he didn't have a fatal disease like cancer but his body was breaking down. He recovered from breast cancer when he was 93 - had a mastectomy.

He wasn't afraid of dying - or more accurately he wasn't afraid of being dead but he was afraid of suffering pain.

I understand what you are saying because I didn't wish that he would die but I also dreaded phone calls signaling he was back in the hospital or needed yet another "procedure" like draining the lungs because of fluid accumulation. When he finally died - relatively quickly after yet another hospitalization I was relieved because I had spent the last two years mourning the "death" of my father. My mother died suddenly after a vacation and a long plane trip when she was 80 and that death was much more difficult for me to process since it was completely unexpected since she was a relatively healthy 80 year old -not at all like Nonna who was an *old* 76

I would have to suspect he died of Covid19 complications given the timing and that he is in New Jersey. Tre's household included a lot of people with active social lives (Tre and the girls) who were much more likely to be infectious than people who had more limited social activity. Ironically seniors living by themselves or with their spouses are probably safer so long as they started self isolating a few weeks ago when it was clear what was happening. 

Tre genuinely loved her parents and so I respect the genuine grief she is feeling.

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Gigi43

Gigi43

He was in the hospital with pneumonia a few weeks ago before COVID really hit. He had heart surgery years ago because Teresa said something about him having it when Joe was screaming in is face at the Christening. My first thought was COVID though. I do hope the girls had been actually staying home with school being closed.

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heatherchandler

heatherchandler

3 hours ago, BrindaWalsh said:

Teresa might discover, as this passes, an element of relief.  It may sound horrible, but when you are the "primary-caregiver" in the so-called-sandwich generation, as Teresa was with her father, simply due to the fact that he lived with her, there are levels of stress and anxiety that exist as a result that you don't even realize. 

 

 

Teresa won’t feel relief, she had her dad watching the kids, cooking, etc up to the end.  She wasn’t his caretaker, he was hers!

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BrindaWalsh

BrindaWalsh

I meant the emotional relief that comes when you are no longer having the day to day anxiety and concerns about that 1 parent (Am I there enough?  Doing enough to help and support and just be there?  Is he/she doing enough or is he/she lonely?  Is that smile genuine?  Why does he/she still seem so lonely when we are all right here?  Am i doing enough?)  

I don't think Tre avoided that.  In my experience, it unavoidable.

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mandymax

mandymax

I missed the news of Teresa's dad passing until this morning, and while I'm not a Teresa fan at all, I immediately felt for her.  To lose two parents in just a few short years has to be unbearable.  I'm 48 years old, both of my parents are still alive, and I already dread the day I lose either one of them, let alone both.  I'm sure the girls are absolutely heartbroken, as he was a member of their household and part of their everyday lives for so long.  

I do agree with the poster who suggested Teresa may feel some sense of relief.  I've been in caretaker positions of sorts, and it's so stressful, not knowing what each day would bring.  Her father's health was failing for quite awhile, and that's a difficult cloud to live under.  And then you feel guilty for feeling relieved that that part of it is over.  It's a tough situation.  I sympathize with her on this point.

Poor Nonno.  He was so sad after his wife's passing.  I suspect he was only hanging on for Teresa and the girls.

sATL

sATL

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I just came here to pay my respects to Giacinto Gorga. 

RIP Nonno.. gosh..

This past season, you really made me laugh. I will really miss that. I still think of you every-time I go to the fridge and look at my condiments. There were a few episodes - finding out what you were cooking, was the highlight of why I tuned in.

 I know off camera you brought joy and happiness to your family. You always kept it real - sometimes in two languages.

Dear Heaven above - welcome your newest angel. 👼

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geauxaway

geauxaway

I’m emotional already and this time of year just kills me for personal loss reasons but I could NOT imagine losing a parent right now.  As it is, I don’t know when I will see my mom again because we live in different states.  My heart just breaks for Tre and her girls.  May God bless them in this most difficult time. 

Sweet-tea

Sweet-tea

Hi. I apologize if this post is in the wrong thread. I'm not sure where to direct it. I watch BH, NY, Dallas and OC but have never watched NJ. I'm very bored and antsy due to the quarantine and am thinking of trying it. Can someone recommend best seasons to start with? When did Theresa go to prison? Should I start the season leading up to that?

londonfroglet

londonfroglet

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Totally agree... I had watched casually in the past, but when I got laid off on March 16th (travel industry), apparently RHONJ (and now Atlanta) was the only thing my brain could process. I did the whole Seasons 1-9 and was crestfallen to find that Hulu wasn't offering Season 10 yet. The various family entanglements (plus Danielle I guess) are definitely worth getting to know from the beginning, so I would just start there and run with it.

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LibertarianSlut

LibertarianSlut

On 4/14/2020 at 8:39 AM, Sweet-tea said:

Hi. I apologize if this post is in the wrong thread. I'm not sure where to direct it. I watch BH, NY, Dallas and OC but have never watched NJ. I'm very bored and antsy due to the quarantine and am thinking of trying it. Can someone recommend best seasons to start with? When did Theresa go to prison? Should I start the season leading up to that?

I agree with my fellow posters that you should start at season one, if you can.  I figured since this question was posed, maybe there was a time constraint involved.  I mean, if it was up to me, during this quarantine, I would watch all Housewives franchises (including Miami!) from season one to the current day, but there is only so much time in a day unfortunately.

If you can’t start at season one, you can start at season three.  This is the season that Melissa (basically as a completely different person) comes on with Joe.

I think season seven is another good place to start.  It is post-prison Teresa, and a huge cast shakeup.  

If you really have a time crunch, you can start watching at season nine, which introduces two new women, comprises the entire current cast, and crazy Siggy is gone, who is irrelevant at this point.  

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mandymax

mandymax

I've actually started rewatching the entire NJ franchise this week, and I can't get over how completely different Teresa looks in season one.  She's actually cute and pretty and her face looks smooth and natural and attractive.  

And it's interesting now, in hindsight, to watch her count out stacks of $100 bills to pay for furniture and the girls' clothes, and to hear Caroline comment about how "carefree" Teresa is with "no stress" and "not a care in the world."

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RedInk

RedInk

17 hours ago, BrownBear2012 said:

Anyone seen Gia's nose job? OMG! 

I came to see if anyone had mentioned it! Seems as though there is only one nose-job nose. In the 70s they were all really tiny, like Sissy Spacek's; now there's this one. I think it makes her look exactly like post-rhinoplasty Naomie Olindo from SC. I don't disparage anyone for having surgery to fix something that really bothers them...just think it's a shame when people start looking like they've clone-stamped parts of their face.

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Gigi43

Gigi43

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So I came here to post something very different but saw the posts about the nose job and looked it up. Yikes. I figured it was going to happen at some point but damn she's still so young. Her nose use to stand out more when she was younger, I thought it didn't as much these days. At the rate these women get plastic surgery though of course the daughters are going to start young. Lauren was what, 22 when she had lap band? I thought she had it done in her prom pics actually but it was just hella contour then.

 

On a tragic note, apparently the federal judge whose son was killed and husband shot yesterday by someone posing as FedEx is the judge who sentence Joe and Teresa. This is something you see in movies and TV but, or maybe it's just me, don't really expect it in real life. They don't know why the gunman (now also found dead) did it but she was presiding over a case involving a bank Epstein dealt with.  

https://people.com/tv/teresa-giudice-shaken-by-news-of-judge-esther-salas-home-invasion/

 

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sATL

sATL

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I don't know if I should be happy or sad about this news... I thought the house was fully paid for.

Don't know if Tre is able to live in the same area (for the girls schools sake) for a lower price. Plus just because  Juicy is gone, doesn't mean her expensive tastes are. 

"The Real Housewives of New Jersey star, 48, is putting the former couple’s New Jersey home on the market as of Thursday, September 3, Us Weekly confirms.  The six-bedroom, five and half bath mansion located in Montville, New Jersey, spans 10,000 square feet and is where the exes raised their four daughters, Gia, 19, Gabriella, 16, Milania, 15, and Audriana, 11. The estate, listed by the No. 1 Luxury Real Estate Broker in New Jersey, Michelle Pais, features a formal living room and dining room, wine cellar and grand entryway."

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/teresa-giudice-selling-new-jersey-home-she-shared-with-joe-giudice/

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Gigi43

Gigi43

8 hours ago, sATL said:

I don't know if I should be happy or sad about this news... I thought the house was fully paid for.

Don't know if Tre is able to live in the same area (for the girls schools sake) for a lower price. Plus just because  Juicy is gone, doesn't mean her expensive tastes are. 

"The Real Housewives of New Jersey star, 48, is putting the former couple’s New Jersey home on the market as of Thursday, September 3, Us Weekly confirms.  The six-bedroom, five and half bath mansion located in Montville, New Jersey, spans 10,000 square feet and is where the exes raised their four daughters, Gia, 19, Gabriella, 16, Milania, 15, and Audriana, 11. The estate, listed by the No. 1 Luxury Real Estate Broker in New Jersey, Michelle Pais, features a formal living room and dining room, wine cellar and grand entryway."

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/teresa-giudice-selling-new-jersey-home-she-shared-with-joe-giudice/

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I always knew they'd have to remodel the house in order to sell it. There was an onyx bathroom I remember that hideous and way too specific. Caroline was right when she called it a catering hall when Teresa was still buying everything for it. I'd love to know what the remodel costs and if they'll end up having to take a loss in the long run. It always baffled me they didn't have to vacate that house of fraud with the arrests.

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