S32.E08: Are You a Rickshaw?/S32.E09: This is Not Payback. This is Karma

[Whimsy]

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In the first ever “Mega Leg,” teams race through Hyderabad, India where they must complete double the detours and double the road blocks and travel double the distance.

 

[mtlchick]

The Swiggy tech support's face was my face when I had to deal with people who did not LISTEN to me for 14 years.  I feel ya, dude. 

[Grizzly]

No real reason for Will and James to yield anyone. They are just miserable people.

[Browncoat]

That yield was just spiteful. 

[Lemuria]

Just now, Grizzly said:

No real reason for Will and James to yield anyone. They are just miserable people.

Especially as smart racing would be to use it against a strong team that could beat you in the finale.

[mtlchick]

6 minutes ago, Lemuria said:

Especially as smart racing would be to use it against a strong team that could beat you in the finale.

That's the problem in still being in alliance (or whatever form of it there is left) at this stage of the race.  By now you know who are the strong teams are.  Why waste it on a team that is soooo not a threat?  

[Suzysite]

I was so hoping the beards would yield stupid Will and James, but no. The blondes again.   So idiotic.

[TiredMe]

If I had to fit someone with dentures, it would be difficult not to self eliminate. I don’t know how dental hygienists do it. Props

Edited November 26, 2020 by TiredMe

[BusyOctober]

Hey, did you guys know Eswar and Aparna are coders / programmers and have ALL the technology knowledge and skills ever bestowed upon humans?  I am so glad Aparna finally told me how smart this team is (snort).

I don’t like this alliance BS one bit.  I hate how Hung and Chee just wait around to help others, then get bent out of shape when another team behaves in a competitive way.  

Haaaaattttte Will and James.  One of the worst teams ever personality wise.  I never thought I could dislike people on this show more than whiny, do-nothing, screeching Flo (season 3) or racist, ugliest American ever KKKendra(season6).  But Will and James and their self righteous smugness is pushing them into that circle of most despised racers for me.

[AuntieDiane6]

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No real reason for Will and James to yield anyone.

They "claimed" that they yielded the blondes so that Hung and Chee would have a better chance.  

[Suzysite]

Why every team in the ridiculous alliance keeps helping Will and James is beyond me.  They are consistently in first or second place, thanks to all the help they get (cheating).  Do the other teams actually want to help them win?

[Browncoat]

I am not loving this season, and it is entirely due to this stupid alliance bullshit.  I hate all the people for yielding the blondes, but mostly I hate Will and James.  They are little weasels.  

The blondes still have a great attitude though.  

[LilaFowler]

Two yields and a bad cab. The alliance really sucks and has killed the spirit of the show for me.

[mtlchick]

Bye Blondes.  If only you were well, infinitely better at this game.  

SO. OVER. ALLIANCES.  And especially Will and James.  

[Grizzly]

What was the point of the megaleg when it was predetermined the blonds would be eliminated? Wish Phil had told the 2 teams from the mine 5 who aren't in the true alliance since he seems annoyed about the alliance.

[FlyingEgret]

At least the show outsmarted the alliance at the turban challenge by allowing each man to only be used once.  James would still be there if he hadn't been told how to count the pillars...

[PaperTree]

I've had a zillion dental impressions over the last 50 years.  I always knew it was gross, but never witnessed how disgusting that was.

Cockroaches?  I hope you lose.

How about: ("They're tough competitors and come back alot" .)

[bmoore4026]

2 minutes ago, PaperTree said:

Cockroaches?  I hope you lose.

The contempt for the blondes sickened me.

[tominboston]

Maybe the blondes weren't great racers but they seem to be great people. I'm sorry to see them go.

Will and James, please go away.

 

[AuntieDiane6]

I hope the blondes get invited back for an All-Star season (if there is one).

[Lemuria]

The blondes were never going to win the race but I came to like and admire them.  They never gave up, they never turned on each other, they never got mean toward the other teams, they felt badly about yielding Leo & Alana.  I really don't like any of the remaining teams anymore.

[ByaNose]

The NFL helped but James didn’t help in return. I hate Will and James. Hate might be a strong word though.

[shura]

How did this work with the dentures exactly? They were taking imprints from people with teeth, then somehow those were turned into dentures within minutes, and then fitted to entirely different people without teeth?

I am a little confused about the Swiggy idea. The operator is the brain and the actual delivery people are the eyes and legs? How is this more efficient than having delivery people know the area they are delivering in? Is it intended for random people to sign up at a Swiggy kiosk and deliver a couple meals just like the contestants were doing?

The blondes are absolutely terrific people. I have never seen anyone with such great attitude on TAR.

[sinycalone]

I was impressed by DeAngelo and Gary's all around abilities in this leg....mental and physical.  Now they know they are on their own....and I hope they finish ahead of the 3 in the Alliance at the end.

Chee/Hung were should have changed tasks much sooner.  They were just not getting the hang of it. at all.  They did the food delivery task fairly quickly

Will  and James - please vanish from my screen.

I was not bothered by D's comment about the Blondes.....people use that expression all the time.  It was used (cockroaches)  years ago to describe Cher....in fact I think she originated it.  I think all of them really respected the blondes for their tenacity.

 

Edited November 26, 2020 by sinycalone

[chaifan]

First - Has anyone else noticed the timing of the pit stops are weird?  The teams were released from Kazakhstan between 10pm and 11:40pm.  But they all were racing for a solid day, in full daylight the previous leg.  There’s no way they finished at 10am.  So the pit stop either had to be incredibly short (a few hours) or over 24 hours.  So if they’re no longer sticking with a 12 hour pitstop, why release teams late at night for a flight that clearly wasn’t departing until the next morning?  This isn’t the first leg that I’ve noticed that the pit stop could not have been 12 hours.  So has that been completely abandoned? 

If there has ever been a team that deserved - really deserved - to be invited back to an All Stars season, it is Kaylynn and Hayley.  They have to be two of the nicest racers to ever be on this show.  They had the worst taxi luck over and over, and then to get yielded twice only because they didn't happen to be in the mine at the same time as other teams just sucks.  Not that they did anything mean, underhanded or nasty to other teams.  They just weren't in an alliance that was based solely on being in one spot at the same time.  And they just remain so positive, even when they know they're going to be eliminated.  Yeah, I know, they aren't the best racers out there, but they aren't the worst, either.  Really, TAR, give them a second chance! 

And, TAR, please put something in place that stops these stupid alliances.  Besides getting one of my favorite teams booted, it just makes for a boring race.  At least 1/2 the tasks should have a specific rule prohibiting working with other teams. 

OK, all that aside...  I loved this mega leg.  I loved having two hours of TAR.  Loved the challenges, loved the locations, loved the people.  OK, not really loving the denture task, that was a bit icky.  But I guess that's what was great about it.  Man, I hope those people were paid well for that, and I mean paid well by our standards, not India's! 

 

 

[xcrayon2215x]

Will and James are really getting on my nerves.

The blondes probably would have made it if it wasn't for being yielded twice, I liked them. I hope Gary and Deangelo win now.

[anniebird]

This could have been one of my favorite seasons if it weren't for that damn alliance nonsense. And like many of you, I hope the blondes get invited back - they were one of the most likeable teams that's ever been on TAR and they got screwed. TAR really needs to find a way to ban alliances. They only make sense on shows where you can get voted off - they make no sense when your goal is to beat EVERY other team to the pit stop.

[redfish]

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No real reason for Will and James to yield anyone. They are just miserable people.

Oh definitely. And the Beards? Did they have to grind it in and yield them? The Blondes were so stupid to get played by Will & James. They used them to yield Leo & Alana and then got screwed by them. Seriously they shouldn't have listened to them in the first place, they didn't owe Will and James anything. Sure they were a disaster a few times but at least they didn't have a meltdown or act like assholes like Will and James. I want them to lose so badly, karma can't hit them fast enough.

And for Will and James claiming to be fans of TAR they don't have the spirit of what made TAR awesome. And for a supposed TAR fan why do they resort to Survivor tactics of "Alliances" and "Real Alliances" and manipulating racers and backstabbing your alliances?  And at the same time trying to portray themselves as good guys to their alliance. Ugh I hate racers who act like phonies. I also hate when tactics from other shows are brought in to this one. It ruins the fun. Also Will and James are aware that the cameras/editors are filming them being assholes who revel in being assholes. I didn't watch TAR just to see people act like wannabe Russell Hantz from Survivor

Also I noticed the two all-male teams yielded the Blondes the only all-women team. I don't want to see too much into it... Also I don't like how Will and James implied his "Real Alliance" like it was a clique from Mean Girls. Won't the other two teams be surprised to find out that they were never part of their club and just used.

[BusyOctober]

Forgot to mention;  since the most hated, unlikeable people like Flo and Kendra have won in the past, AND  because it’s still 2020, aka ,the year of all thing horrible, i think it’s preordered that Will and James will win this season.

[ByaNose]

7 minutes ago, BusyOctober said:

Forgot to mention;  since the most hated, unlikeable people like Flo and Kendra have won in the past, AND  because it’s still 2020, aka ,the year of all thing horrible, i think it’s preordered that Will and James will win this season.

I sorta agree. I’m already bracing myself for this possibility. Ugh!

[toodywoody]

41 minutes ago, Suzysite said:

Why every team in the ridiculous alliance keeps helping Will and James is beyond me.  They are consistently in first or second place, thanks to all the help they get (cheating).  Do the other teams actually want to help them win?

Thank you. I have been saying this to myself all along. Hung and Chee and The Beards are just going to help them to the win. They were complaining about Gary and D'Angelo and it's been Will and Whine that are always receiving the help. And Gary helped Whine at the one with the turbans. 

[chaifan]

Will & James:  yeah, I'm so tired of the alliance stuff, and then pretending to be friends with everyone.  But, as much as I hate to say it, I'd be ok if they won.  Bottom line - they're good racers.  They really have deserved, mostly on their own, the wins that they've had.  (Please don't throw things at me!)

[ByaNose]

6 minutes ago, chaifan said:

Will & James:  yeah, I'm so tired of the alliance stuff, and then pretending to be friends with everyone.  But, as much as I hate to say it, I'd be ok if they won.  Bottom line - they're good racers.  They really have deserved, mostly on their own, the wins that they've had.  (Please don't throw things at me!)

Please don’t move and no ducking. LOL!!! I can’t have them win. Yes. I’m not a nice person. I just don’t like them and their Survivor game play in TAR. That’s why I can ever have nice things. 

[Quilt Fairy]

Why did the producers place two yields in the mega-leg?   What did they think would happen? 

[sinycalone]

2 minutes ago, Quilt Fairy said:

Why did the producers place two yields in the mega-leg?   What did they think would happen? 

There was one in each leg....and all had to be used by episode 9

[me5671]

1 hour ago, Suzysite said:

I was so hoping the beards would yield stupid Will and James, but no. The blondes again.   So idiotic.

I hate the big alliance.  I guess I'm rooting for Eswar and Aparna because they're the least horrible of those left, but man the big alliance sucked all the fun and suspense out of the season thus far.  Will and James are especially awful.

[ByaNose]

9 minutes ago, Quilt Fairy said:

Why did the producers place two yields in the mega-leg?   What did they think would happen? 

That really screwed the blondes. Especially, back to back. They should have been spread out more since they want them gone by Episode 9. Also, no one else wanted to use them earlier which I don’t think TPTB didn’t think would happen.

[sinycalone]

A wise use of the yield in early episodes would have created some drama...without the alliance nonsense.

[dgpolo]

2 minutes ago, sinycalone said:

A wise use of the yield in early episodes would have created some drama...without the alliance nonsense.

Teams aren't trying to create drama, they are trying to win.

I don't find this alliance to be any worse than the one the Globetrotters were in on one of their seasons where people were just giving them answers with nothing expected in return. I find the hate filled posts here much more off putting than anything happening on the show.

It's a reality competition, teams are trying to win any way they can, nobody has quit a task, no one has tried to hit a teammate, no one has been rude to the locals.

I find I'm liking this season but I may need to shut off alerts.

[A.Ham]

So I only watched the first hour, not sure if I will continue. At this rate I want the footballers to win. And at the beginning of the season, my picks were either the footballers or Hung & Chee-but my appreciation of Hung & Chee started to evaporate with the Sauerkraut episode, and it has not gotten better since...

I’d hate to watch the smaller “alliance” (ugh) go after the footballers so I think I will just check back in at the end of the season to see who wins and avoid the aggravation of watching any of those three pairs win.

[mertensia]

Will/James All Gary and DeAngelo do is take!

Gary: shows them how to do the turban challenge.

Shut UP.

 

[buttersister]

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James would still be there if he hadn't been told how to count the pillars...

If only!

[sinycalone]

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Teams aren't trying to create drama, they are trying to win.

Drama was the wrong word....I should have said the use of the yield would have been a cleverer use of a Race tool...rather than an alliance.

Oh, and DeAngelo gave Will some very helpful tips when they were making the cellos.  

 

Edited November 26, 2020 by sinycalone

[katalizt]

1 hour ago, shura said:

How did this work with the dentures exactly? They were taking imprints from people with teeth, then somehow those were turned into dentures within minutes, and then fitted to entirely different people without teeth?

I am a little confused about the Swiggy idea. The operator is the brain and the actual delivery people are the eyes and legs? How is this more efficient than having delivery people know the area they are delivering in? Is it intended for random people to sign up at a Swiggy kiosk and deliver a couple meals just like the contestants were doing?

The blondes are absolutely terrific people. I have never seen anyone with such great attitude on TAR.

The dentures were not made on the spot. They made the mold, once it was approved, they were given a pre-made set of dentures to polish.

And as for the food delivery I assume the setup was just for the task and the real delivery people know where they're going.

[Lantern7]

I'm getting a bit annoyed.

I still think this is a good show. I don't see how loopholes could be closed to prevent future cases of what happened tonight. And maybe that wouldn't have happened if the Blondes were good at racing. Basically, they were the safety net of the other five teams. As long as they were behind, the "Mine Five" (still a better nickname than any alliance from Big Brother) had room to breathe. I didn't see it as bullying. I didn't think that two Racers referring to them as "roaches" was cruel. But Racers swapping answers with each other is against the spirit of the game.

Mega Leg was pretty epic. I still think the finale for TAR8 could have been considered the first Mega Leg, but I'll allow it. We didn't get too many teams getting wrecked by India, but the tasks were interesting. It's just a pity that the Blondes couldn't rally from behind. Also sucks that Will & James are veering into the Ugly Behavior lane. I mean, I'm sure they're nice guys, but they're harder to take every with passing week. On Facebook, someone said that we shouldn't sleep on them. I responded that I couldn't sleep because of the noise of Will & James patting themselves on the back.

I think the hourglass Yields can work, but this wasn't the best season for them. On some level, the constant Yielding of the Blondes was probably the right thing to do. If one of the "Mine Five" teams (#eyeroll) had Yielded the other, that would have been considered "shots fired," even though twenty minutes of waiting couldn't possible make a difference. Also, while watching and posting on a TAR group on Facebook, I figured that a U-Turn could be in the future. With that said? The double Yielding was a punk-ass move. And yet, the Blondes were approaching Andrew/Dan levels of haplessness. Did you see the Swiggy operator facepalm twice trying to guide them over the phone?

Anyone curious how the people for the dental Detour were chosen? And sticking fingers in or near a stranger's mouth is SO 2018. Looking back, there should have been a disclaimer.

[Giuseppe]

2 hours ago, redfish said:

And for Will and James claiming to be fans of TAR they don't have the spirit of what made TAR awesome. And for a supposed TAR fan why do they resort to Survivor tactics of "Alliances" and "Real Alliances" and manipulating racers and backstabbing your alliances?

Also, how can they be such big fans and not know what a rickshaw is? When has this show gone to India and NOT used a rickshaw as a means of transport? I know that's petty, but whatever, lol.

The denture task almost seemed like a callback to another season - one that Margie and Luke were on I think - where they also had to fit dentures to customers. But if I remember correctly, they had to choose from several pairs and try them on different customers until they found a match. That task was disgusting, too.

Fully on board with the blondes getting a second chance on another season.

Edited November 26, 2020 by Giuseppe

[NYCFree]

1 hour ago, dgpolo said:

Teams aren't trying to create drama, they are trying to win.

I don't find this alliance to be any worse than the one the Globetrotters were in on one of their seasons where people were just giving them answers with nothing expected in return. I find the hate filled posts here much more off putting than anything happening on the show.

It's a reality competition, teams are trying to win any way they can, nobody has quit a task, no one has tried to hit a teammate, no one has been rude to the locals.

I find I'm liking this season but I may need to shut off alerts.

One of the things that has made TAR special to me is the lack of attacking other competitors. It’s rare in the world of American Competitive Reality programming. It is one of the key features of Survivor and Big Brother. In the past, it’s been mostly teams just competing against one another, with skill and luck involved. Will and James seem to have spearheaded a new version of TAR, with alliances actively helping each other (to their own detriment) and, even worse, picking another team for them to target. Whether it reflects reality, or is just editing, Will and James seem to be the team most focused on changing TAR to Big Brother/Survivor while traveling. They are even using Big Brother terminology such as “blood on our hands.”

They also seem super pleased with themselves, and the glory of the alliances. That part may be in my own head.

I was thinking that one thing the producers could do is to either outright ban teams helping each other (the way one partner can’t help the other on a one person task), or implement a rule that if you share information, you must stay until the team you gave information to has completed the task.

[Vermicious Knid]

Being software engineers does not even help with binary! I like Eswar and Aparna but if the blondes hadn't been so hapless they would be out.

[ByaNose]

7 minutes ago, Vermicious Knid said:

Being software engineers does not even help with binary! I like Eswar and Aparna but if the blondes hadn't been so hapless they would be out.

The blondes had a triple whammy tonight. Cab issues and two Yields. I do wonder if only one yield (or none at all) had been used where would they have placed?! They weren’t seen with any other teams so it’s hard to tell. It sounds like they got majorly lost due to the cab driver but I would be curious if they could have over come just that with no yields. I know......we’ll never know. 

[Fukui San]

3 hours ago, shura said:

How did this work with the dentures exactly? They were taking imprints from people with teeth, then somehow those were turned into dentures within minutes, and then fitted to entirely different people without teeth?

I am a little confused about the Swiggy idea. The operator is the brain and the actual delivery people are the eyes and legs? How is this more efficient than having delivery people know the area they are delivering in? Is it intended for random people to sign up at a Swiggy kiosk and deliver a couple meals just like the contestants were doing?

The blondes are absolutely terrific people. I have never seen anyone with such great attitude on TAR.

I think the dentures task was set up like a cooking show. You do the prep step, then you reach down and pull out the already cooked dish from the oven.

I think the Swiggy idea is like Uber for food delivery. Randos sign up and do the delivering, with the added benefit of the recipient being tracked so that food can be delivered wherever they move.

Both of those are guesses.

Idea for a future season: Have the end of the Yield section of the race be a non-elimination. Racers who have survived Yields get their time Yielded back as a bonus in a future leg. In this case the Blondes would receive a 60 minute credit they can activate when needed. Perhaps they activate it and every other team has to stay still for 60 minutes.

Oh yes, and we now have really, really, really, really confirmed that being a software engineer has no applications beyond engineering software.