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I got FJ instantly. “Strife” immediately made me think “discontent” and then I doubled checked to make sure the time fit and yep it was wintertime. I thought that was really easy. 
Andy Warhol being a triple stumper in the $200 clue was stunning.

Dr. Oz seemed fine to me. I liked him better than Katie Couric. I don’t know anything about him so have no idea what problem people have with him. 🤷‍♀️ 

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I don't know anything about Dr. Oz, but I looked up his charity on one of the charity rating sites and it has a good score - just shy of 90%, with 3 (out of 4) stars.  (I already knew from past experience that Katie Couric's is highly rated.)  So maybe at least J!'s money is going to a decent charity, whatever other crap he's involved with (I haven't looked that up, I just know a lot of posters here don't like him).  He seems like he'll do fine as a guest host.

The combat boots TS surprised me; that was very much a $200 clue.  There were several others I'd have predicted someone would get (tween, Tampa Bay, Ugg), but that was a real doozy.

George Bernard Shaw as a TS didn't surprise me, but that two contestants guessed German writers - one of which wasn't even a playwright - did.

The two R&B TS didn't surprise me, either, but did bum me out a little.  (I laughed that at least two of them had duh, of course reactions when Oz revealed the Kool & the Gang answer.)

They just ignored that Oz accepted "Holy Roman Empire" (instead of "Emperor").  I know Nick corrected himself right afterward, but if Oz had ruled correctly, he wouldn't have had time to.

I only missed four in the first round (and it probably would have been three if I'd have time to get farther than "something-a-gotchi" before the contestant answered tamagotchi).

In DJ, I ran R&B, bays, and A-Y, but only got two in artists.  At least other than those three, I only had two other scattered misses.

I can't quite believe it, but I came up with FJ.  I had no idea, so I looked for clues within the clue, and when I got to the months I thought "The Something Winter?"  That didn't trigger anything in terms of a labor situation or a Shakespeare play.  But then I thought of "the winter of our discontent".  I didn't remember a labor action being called that, but I certainly didn't have any other guesses and it fit, so I went with it.

I highly doubt all that would have worked under game conditions, though.

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10 minutes ago, Bastet said:

They just ignored that Oz accepted "Holy Roman Empire" (instead of "Emperor").  I know Nick corrected himself right afterward, but if Oz had ruled correctly, he wouldn't have had time to.

I hope this level of leniency is because they have inexperienced hosts and whoever takes over permanently will be more rigorous in what they accept, and the judges will hold them to a higher standard. There have been a few things that I'm sure Alex would not have accepted, or at least asked them to be more specific. I can kind of give the temp hosts a pass because they're not used to the rhythm of the game like Alex was after 36 years, but it's not really fair to the players.

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1 hour ago, Cotypubby said:

Andy Warhol being a triple stumper in the $200 clue was stunning.

 

59 minutes ago, Bastet said:

The combat boots TS surprised me; that was very much a $200 clue.

I suspect that when the contestants jump all over the board hunting for DJs and big numbers, they get disoriented and forget that the top row of clues are the easiest and then start second guessing themselves when they seem too easy. Especially in games like this one where there are a lot of incorrect guesses. I get confused too, and I'm only watching from home.

FJ was an instaget for me, as I have a soft spot for the House of York during the wars of roses and hate Shakespeare's depiction of Richard III. Even more, it drives me crazy that the first line of that play is usually quoted out of context. People always stop at "now is the winter of our discontent" and think he's saying how terrible things are, but the full line is "now is the winter of our discontent made glorious summer by this sun of York," which really means that the dark days of fighting are behind them and the House of York has triumphed and everything is great for the kingdom now (until he decides to start his own mischief).

I like the new champion and am neutral on Dr. Oz as a host, so I'm happy to keep watching during his stint.

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5 hours ago, Cherpumple said:

 

I suspect that when the contestants jump all over the board hunting for DJs and big numbers, they get disoriented and forget that the top row of clues are the easiest and then start second guessing themselves when they seem too easy. Especially in games like this one where there are a lot of incorrect guesses. I get confused too, and I'm only watching from home.

FJ was an instaget for me, as I have a soft spot for the House of York during the wars of roses and hate Shakespeare's depiction of Richard III. Even more, it drives me crazy that the first line of that play is usually quoted out of context. People always stop at "now is the winter of our discontent" and think he's saying how terrible things are, but the full line is "now is the winter of our discontent made glorious summer by this sun of York," which really means that the dark days of fighting are behind them and the House of York has triumphed and everything is great for the kingdom now (until he decides to start his own mischief).

I like the new champion and am neutral on Dr. Oz as a host, so I'm happy to keep watching during his stint.

Yes, there were a lot of TS's. I got Shaw, tween, Ugg, 40 winks, combat boots, Escher, Tampa Bay, and Warhol. Interesting theory about board hopping. If you're going to play like James Holzhauer, you had better have his breadth of knowledge (and buzzer reflexes).

I figured FJ would be "winter of our discontent" by the reference to December and January. Every detail is in FJ for a reason! Sad that two out of three didn't even have a guess. "Toil and trouble" isn't a bad guess.

New champ is good, but I wonder how long she will last. There's been a recent pattern of people seeming like invincible juggernauts (as opposed to, say, winning by being wrong but losing the least in FJ) one day and losing the next.

I'm not an Oz fan, but I thought he was an OK host, apart from the Empire/Emperor flub.

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12 hours ago, ams1001 said:

They should have had to give the initials in Initially Yours. Only one did.

I didn't notice, because I forget the categories too often, but Mr Starling was grousing about that, and I agree - the initials should have been required.

I didn't get combat boots, because my father's low quarters (the regular uniform shoes) snatched my mind and I couldn't get to it. I hang my head in shame.

Oz was okay, a little fast - but it was his first show. I don't care for him, but he's doing okay.

I came up with "Band of Brothers" - wrong play. I smacked my head when I saw the answer.

I did get Escher, which I was inordinately proud of because I'm not that great at artists. I knew nothing about him, but I am very familiar with his art.

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I think holy roman empire may have still have been technically correct as well, depends on the wording of the question, which I don't recall. The holy roman empire ceased to exist as well as the emporer.  But yes seemed obvious they wanted emporer not empire. 

 

Dr oz performance was fine.  I just don't like the idea of him as host.  Bad enough the show promotes that worthless crap prevagen for memory. Dr oz takes over and it will become another charlatans medical paradise for ads.  

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2 hours ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

I think holy roman empire may have still have been technically correct as well, depends on the wording of the question, which I don't recall. The holy roman empire ceased to exist as well as the emporer.  But yes seemed obvious they wanted emporer not empire. 

 

Dr oz performance was fine.  I just don't like the idea of him as host.  Bad enough the show promotes that worthless crap prevagen for memory. Dr oz takes over and it will become another charlatans medical paradise for ads.  

FWIW--
Category was simply History.
Clue was "This imperial title, which had been around for quite a while, ended when Francis II abdicated it in 1806."
Question response (from https://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6976) was:

  • (Nick: What is Holy Roman Empire?)
    (Mehmet: Yes.)
    (Nick: Empire, excuse me.)

Hopefully the judges viewed this as a Beginner Guest Host Gaffe rather than new policy, but I suppose when there is eventually a new permanent host, there will be at least some minor adjustments. I guess Ken Jennings would be the most likely to follow most closely in Alex's footsteps.

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6 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

FWIW--
Catagory was simply History.
Clue was "This imperial title, which had been around for quite a while, ended when Francis II abdicated it in 1806."
Question response (from https://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6976) was:

  • (Nick: What is Holy Roman Empire?)
    (Mehmet: Yes.)
    (Nick: Empire, excuse me.)

Hopefully the judges viewed this as a Beginner Guest Host Gaffe rather than new policy, but I suppose when there is eventually a new permanent host, there will be at least some minor adjustments. I guess Ken Jennings would be the most likely to follow most closely in Alex's footsteps.

Yeah really should have been emperor

 

The other one that bugged me, hinton instead of SE hinton.  When the category specifically refers to initials in the name, I think you should have to say the initials. 

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2 minutes ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

Yeah really should have been emperor

 

The other one that bugged me, hinton instead of SE hinton.  When the category specifically refers to initials in the name, I think you should have to say the initials. 

I agree on the empire emperor thing.  However, I will say this.  Dr Oz ruled him correct and then he corrected himself.  Had he not, the judges may very well have done a correction later as they sometimes do when the host rules something correct and it is not.  They do seem to be very lax about the rules lately though.

And it wasn't just SE Hinton. I don't think they gave the initials of any of them.  Why bother having the category as initially yours if they're not going tor require the initials.  Just silly.  It's one thing if the categories as Harry and you just answer Truman.  But this was ridiculous.  As a contestant I wouldn't have dared to just give the last name with the initials and if I were host I would have said "we need the initials."  I think that would be acceptable instead of a full out wrong ruling.  But, no, you just need the initials.  I'm being a cranky old lady today.

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I said prepubescent instead of tween. Thoughts please on whether or not that would be acceptable. I also got Uggs (sorry @Browncoat I love mine), combat boots (we have a family joke about them), Escher, Tampa Bay and Andy Warhol. Yet again I didn’t come up with FJ. 

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8 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

I said prepubescent instead of tween. Thoughts please on whether or not that would be acceptable. I also got Uggs (sorry @Browncoat I love mine), combat boots (we have a family joke about them), Escher, Tampa Bay and Andy Warhol. Yet again I didn’t come up with FJ. 

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We use this word to describe a boy or girl of 11 or 12; Tolkien used it to mean a Hobbit not yet an adult

They were looking for the word Tolkien used, so it had to be tween.

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41 minutes ago, Katy M said:

And it wasn't just SE Hinton. I don't think they gave the initials of any of them.  Why bother having the category as initially yours if they're not going tor require the initials.  Just silly.  It's one thing if the categories as Harry and you just answer Truman.  But this was ridiculous.  As a contestant I wouldn't have dared to just give the last name with the initials and if I were host I would have said "we need the initials."  I think that would be acceptable instead of a full out wrong ruling.  But, no, you just need the initials.  I'm being a cranky old lady today.

I think there are two different issues here.  Sometimes when they reveal the categories, the host adds a comment, like, "remember, here we need both words" or something similar.  Was there a comment like that here (like, "you need to include the initials in your response")?  I sure didn't notice it.  So, first, should they have done that?  As several people have said, that would make more sense.  But, assuming they didn't, I think they were correct in accepting the responses from players who were following the "standard" rule that last name only is acceptable unless there are multiple possible people that it could be.

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Only three ts's for me, Ugg, Bay of Fundy, and Andy Warhol.

For FJ I said "toil and trouble" - that fit pretty well even if it turned out to be wrong.

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34 minutes ago, SoMuchTV said:

I think there are two different issues here.  Sometimes when they reveal the categories, the host adds a comment, like, "remember, here we need both words" or something similar.  Was there a comment like that here (like, "you need to include the initials in your response")?  I sure didn't notice it.  So, first, should they have done that?  As several people have said, that would make more sense.  But, assuming they didn't, I think they were correct in accepting the responses from players who were following the "standard" rule that last name only is acceptable unless there are multiple possible people that it could be.

Technically yes if they don't specify it's still a correct answer. 

But on something like that why even bother with the category if you don't ask for the initials in the answer?  

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3 hours ago, Clanstarling said:

I did get Escher, which I was inordinately proud of because I'm not that great at artists. I knew nothing about him, but I am very familiar with his art.

I should have gotten Escher because my brother is an artist (or was; I don't know if he still draws or anything, but he majored in art in college) and he was into Escher for a while when we were younger.

2 hours ago, Katy M said:

And it wasn't just SE Hinton. I don't think they gave the initials of any of them.  

David gave the initials for BB King, but no one gave initials on the other four questions.

56 minutes ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

Technically yes if they don't specify it's still a correct answer. 

But on something like that why even bother with the category if you don't ask for the initials in the answer?  

Agreed; since they didn't specify from the start that initials were required, then the answers as given should be acceptable. But I still think they should have required it and had a note at the beginning of the round.

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21 hours ago, 853fisher said:

No joy in Final for me.  I couldn't shake some variation on "toil and trouble," even though I knew Macbeth wasn't one of the history plays.  I had never heard that term used for labor strife and just don't think I would've gotten there in 100 years.

I knew it right away.  I once used the line in a comment to a friend about a group of underdressed college students in January: "Yo chickies, this ain't the summer of love.  Now is the winter of our discontent".  I was very proud of myself for that.

It's the first line of Richard III: "Now is the winter of our discontent / Made glorious summer by this sun of York".

20 hours ago, Katy M said:

I got the ts of Ugg, 40 winks, mimicry, Kool and the Gang and Andy Warhol (Andy Warhol is always the answer when they ask for a pop artist.  Always.)

I didn't get 40 winks, but did get the rest, although I said "mimicking" instead of "mimicry".

20 hours ago, Browncoat said:

I can't believe they all missed Tampa Bay.

Me neither.  Maybe they thought it was too obvious to be correct?

18 hours ago, Cotypubby said:

I don’t know anything about him so have no idea what problem people have with him.

He was a respected heart specialist who turned into a shady snake oil salesman when he got his tv show.  He's recommended some potentially dangerous things, and I believe has actually been sued at least once over the crap he touts.  He wasn't terrible as host, but he's an awful person.  I tuned in last night to see if I could stand him hosting, but I don't think I'll be back until he's gone.  If I had closed captioning on my tv, I'd maybe try watching without the sound but I guess I'll just have to check j-archive instead.

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11 hours ago, GreekGeek said:

I figured FJ would be "winter of our discontent" by the reference to December and January. Every detail is in FJ for a reason! Sad that two out of three didn't even have a guess.

I was impressed that the one contestant's guess, while wrong, was at least a fantastic first line: "O, for a muse of fire that would ascend the brightest heaven of invention!"  line 1, act I of Henry V.  (My absolute favorite Shakespeare movie is Kenneth Branagh's version of this play with Derek Jacobi as the Chorus.)

 

6 hours ago, SoMuchTV said:

But, assuming they didn't, I think they were correct in accepting the responses from players who were following the "standard" rule that last name only is acceptable unless there are multiple possible people that it could be.

Like all those Carsons who could've been explorers in the American West who inspired the name of the capital city of Nevada?

7 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

Were there more than usual TSs? That might indicate the host needs to work on their hosting skills if they want to continue to host.

I don't think there's a correlation between the skills of the host and the number of triple stumpers.  There've been some true dud games when Alex was alive, too.

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1 hour ago, shapeshifter said:

Were there more than usual TSs? That might indicate the host needs to work on their hosting skills if they want to continue to host.

How would the host's skills help contestants come up with answers -- do you mean by helping ease their nerves, encouraging them, etc.?  Alex is arguably the best there's ever been, and there were plenty of games with numerous TS during his run.

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1 hour ago, proserpina65 said:

I was impressed that the one contestant's guess, while wrong, was at least a fantastic first line: "O, for a muse of fire that would ascend the brightest heaven of invention!"  line 1, act I of Henry V.  (My absolute favorite Shakespeare movie is Kenneth Branagh's version of this play with Derek Jacobi as the Chorus.)

 

Like all those Carsons who could've been explorers in the American West who inspired the name of the capital city of Nevada?

I don't think there's a correlation between the skills of the host and the number of triple stumpers.  There've been some true dud games when Alex was alive, too.

You’re right, I forgot the one player did come up with a decent guess even though it was incorrect.

And you’re also correct that there is no correlation between the TS’s and the host, who has no idea until the last minute what the board will be. What loyal viewer can forget the time all three players sat in silence throughout a football category?

ETA: in case you forgot or missed it: 

 

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49 minutes ago, GreekGeek said:

And you’re also correct that there is no correlation between the TS’s and the host, who has no idea until the last minute what the board will be. What loyal viewer can forget the time all three players sat in silence throughout a football category?

I'm sure I saw that game and I still didn't get any of them.

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I can't believe I got FJ right!  I was delighted.  I am sure Olympic host cities are among the things some contestants study.  I enjoy learning about the games but only casually.  Those dates must have seeped into my brain somehow.

I thought "Dorothea Dix worked to help people with this condition" was a tricky question because it seemed to want a specific condition rather than mental illness generally.  The first thing I thought of was a general term Dix probably used herself but which is no longer considered respectful.  I probably would've just kept quiet on that one.

Amal certainly earned his victory, but his violent buzzing and swaying were driving me up the wall, and those things rarely bother me.  I can't blame him for deliberating either, but he took so darn long on most questions!  Urgh.

I liked Kathryn, but she fell apart.  Yesterday's interview was a bit awkward, as she seemed taken aback for some reason by Oz's comment that NYC was a long way from home for her.  Today's was worse, as in response to his cliche about Mrs. Oz, she mumbled to the back of his head that she and her husband were happy with their marriage too.  I felt for her.

I've played Pokemon games on and off for years, but rarely heard the creatures' names spoken.  Have I been pronouncing "Ponyta" wrong in my head all along?  And Dr. Oz was the one to set me straight?  How strange life is! 😉

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Whoo-hoo! Shout out to @Bastet, who "appeared" on Jeopardy! today! And I was pleased to learn the origin of your name.

 

ETA: $2,000 clue in Crass Warfare: Legend says the Battle of Pelusium ended badly for this army, freaked out by their cat goddess Bastet painted on their foes' shields

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Gah, the new champ was so slow! I was hoping he wouldn't win just because he was driving me nuts.

I got two DDs and the TS of Saluki and Poland, and I said schizophrenia, which is a mental illness…. ??? (Agree with @853fisher that the wording seemed to be asking for a specific condition, not a general category.)

I ran Brand Mascots and Nurses, and missed only one each in Space-y Sayings, Lyrics, Border Towns (that was the DD I missed), and Six Letter Words.

And no FJ. I feel like that one was really hard. But then I don't pay that much attention to the Olympics, except to watch a few sports when they're on.

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No idea for FJ tonight.  I guessed some random number that was divisible by four.  Oh well!

I was rooting for middle woman tonight.  Amal was awfully slow at responding and picking the next clue.  And there was the buzzer action and swaying, too.  

I only got the TS of saluki and schuss.

Shout out to @Bastet!

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i said 24.  I knew the second was 1984, but didn't know the first.  I can't believe the former champ didn't read the question, or actually thought identifying the city of angels would be a FJ.

I got the ts of mental illness and Poland.

I got the entire categoriy of brand and partial of books right and the entire category of pony wrong.

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4 minutes ago, M. Darcy said:

I was close - I said 50 years.

So did I.  Glad to see I'm in good company.  Do we get partial credit for being closer than the contestants?

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Amal said on Reddit that the pauses were because he reread the clue every time.  Again, I can't blame him, but it didn't make for exciting viewing as the game ground to a halt every time he rang in.

Remember when we would watch game shows and have to form our own conclusions about what they must have been thinking without any opportunity to hear from the contestants themselves?  Weird! 😉

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I instantly got TSs of Mental Illness and Van Gogh.
I also instantly sang "Hey Jude" but was so busy mentally patting myself on the back that I missed the opportunity to belt out "Memories."

 

13 minutes ago, 853fisher said:

Amal said on Reddit that the pauses were because he reread the clue every time.  Again, I can't blame him, but it didn't make for exciting viewing as the game ground to a halt every time he rang in.

I figured Amal's pauses were the secret to his success --which I appreciate-- but which also are very annoying. For that reason I hope he doesn't become a 5-time champion, but even more, I hope his technique isn't emulated the way James Holzhauer's selection stratedgies have been.  However, if through some inexplicable sequence of events I wound up on Jeopardy, I would probably only do even moderately well if I used Amal's technique.

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Yikes; in the first round, I only ran two categories, and I also entirely blew two categories - I didn't get a single clue in Christian glossary (no surprise) or prancing pony.  I missed one each in the others.

Thank goodness for the Bastet clue, as until then I'd only come up with one other in that warfare category.  DJ wasn't any better for me than the first round; the only category I ran was border towns.

Not my game, although I did get FJ; I knew the games been here in L.A. in 1984 and some time in the '30s, realized it couldn't have been '36 because those were the Hitler Olympics, so knew it had to be '32.

I was a little distracted tonight, but I think the only TS that surprised me was Poland.  Kathryn's boneheaded failure to actually read the clue in FJ was far more mind boggling.  I know there have been clues that seem a bit too easy for FJ, but she seriously thought all she had to do was name the city nicknamed the City of Angels?!

 

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I got FJ. I knew 1984, wasn't as sure about the first year.  But 1936 was berlin and knew it was before this, somehow 1932 stuck with me.  I knew it was the 20s or 30s so that left 20, 24, 28 or 32.  25 percent chance.  

 

Champs slow play was annoying regardless of the reason. 

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I didn’t mind the pauses so much but what the hell was Amal doing with his buzzer!? I’ve never seen a contestant do that before. At first I thought he was making the cross symbol whenever he rang in. 

I actually got FJ! I knew the second was 1984 and managed to remember 1932 and get the math in right before the time ran out.

Though Dr Oz didn’t bother me yesterday, he was starting to be annoying today, with his “Yes, name” when the contestant would ring in. Don’t say “yes” before they answer!

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I never knew anything about Dr. Oz, don't watch his show or follow him.  He's o.k., obviously when you are not accustomed to doing this there will be some mistakes. I don't think most of the guest hosts are really being considered for a permanent gig,  so I can stand pretty much anyone for a  short time....except Austin.

 

I agree about the initials category....it was so annoying to me especially since I got them all right! 

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9 hours ago, Cotypubby said:

Though Dr Oz didn’t bother me yesterday, he was starting to be annoying today, with his “Yes, name” when the contestant would ring in. Don’t say “yes” before they answer!

YES! 😉

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Annoyances aside I did pretty well. I got all three DDs and ran Nurses, the places to have a drink, as well as the TSs of mental illness, Saluki (shout out to @saber5055), Poland, Van Gogh, and guessed 50 for FJ. A few things annoyed me, but I am trying to shut my mind off about them. 

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An average game for me.  I got the ts's of mental illness, saluki (although I thought it was a Borzoi at first), schuss. Noted the shoutout to @Bastet!

New champs slowness and swaying are annoying. Dr. Oz is not doing a very good job.

For FJ, I said 60 years, so in the right ball park but still out in left field.

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20 hours ago, 853fisher said:

I can't believe I got FJ right!  I was delighted.  I am sure Olympic host cities are among the things some contestants study.  I enjoy learning about the games but only casually.  Those dates must have seeped into my brain somehow.

I should've gotten it right because I love the Olympics, but I got 1984 in LA mixed up with 1980 in Moscow (hey, they were both boycotted), and then couldn't do the math quickly enough.

20 hours ago, 853fisher said:

I thought "Dorothea Dix worked to help people with this condition" was a tricky question because it seemed to want a specific condition rather than mental illness generally.

That was my thinking as well.

I managed to figure out the closed captioning on my new Directv remote, so I watched without sound.  It was very weird, but at least I didn't have to hear Dr. Oz's smarmy voice, which made it tolerable.

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I really don't even wanna SEE him, much less listen to him, but it's not fair to the contestants to boycott these two weeks.  Me not watching isn't really going to affect the ratings. If I knew by not watching, I'd hit Sony in the wallet, i would boycott.

 

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29 minutes ago, proserpina65 said:

I should've gotten it right because I love the Olympics, but I got 1984 in LA mixed up with 1980 in Moscow (hey, they were both boycotted), and then couldn't do the math quickly enough.

This was exactly what happened to me. I said 48 years instead of 52. I knew 1932 right away and then counted up to 1980 instead of 1984, with my mind confusing the two boycotted Olympics. I was very annoyed with myself for messing that one up. 😞

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I thought the contestant who answered The Nicene Creed should have been given credit for their response.  The wording of the clue was asking for something specific, (the men who created the creed) and I guess that's why it wasn't allowed.  

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16 minutes ago, Phebemarie said:

I thought the contestant who answered The Nicene Creed should have been given credit for their response.  The wording of the clue was asking for something specific, (the men who created the creed) and I guess that's why it wasn't allowed.  

The clue did not ask for the men who created the creed. Here is the clue:

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The ancient statement of faith called these men's creed begins, "I believe in God, the Father almighty"

The clue said it's called these men's creed. The wording included in the clue is that of the Apostles Creed. The beginning of the Nicene Creed uses different wording.

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21 minutes ago, Phebemarie said:

I thought the contestant who answered The Nicene Creed should have been given credit for their response.  The wording of the clue was asking for something specific, (the men who created the creed) and I guess that's why it wasn't allowed.  

I thought the ruling was correct.  The clue asked for "the ancient statement of faith called these men's creed."  Nicene refers to the First Council of Nicaea, where that Creed was officially adopted.  Even if the Apostles' Creed and the Nicene Creed referred to the same text, and in fact there are subtle but important differences between them, I don't think the clue left room to consider a response other than the Apostles.  Gee, I wish my religious formation teachers could see me now!

ETA: oops, chessiegal, jinx!  It's back to hiding from those teachers now. 😉

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I have no use for Dr Oz but he’s not bothering me much.  Except he should have insisted on initials in Monday’s game.  I HATE whistling and those who whistle, but Amal was most excellent doing Mozart.  Props to Bastet!

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"The Lent"? 

I don't understand why it takes so long to rule an obviously wrong answer wrong. Doesn't he have the answers in front of him? I said on Monday that he wasn't a terrible game show host, but my opinion is declining as we go on.

Only category I ran was Plants. Missed only one each in The Problem Is, Beyond Me, Essays, Kings & Queens and Oscars. And missed all but one in Nebula Awards and Bodies of Water.

TS: Problem of Evil and Poetry (Did none of them know Shelley was a poet? What else would he be defending? Especially in what should be the easiest clue of the category...) and 2 DDs.

Got 19/30 in each round, which is 63%, plus FJ (instaget) which brought me up to 64%. Still not my worst game of the week so far. 😕
  

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It was not a great day for closed captioning.  Whoever worked this show up thinks "Brad Berry" is a sci-fi author and also thinks a counting frame is an "abbacus."  I can hear and process better than many who use CC, but I hate when it's sloppy, because it's just not fair to those who are more reliant on it.  I did think the explanation about "back to back letters starting the word" could have been clearer and a different example word might have been better, but that doesn't excuse the CC error.

Too bad Jon couldn't quite get across the finish line.  I had no clue on FJ.  I would’ve said IKEA was not almost 80 years old, and 1943 made me think it might be helpful to consider what kind of company would have been started in the middle of WWII, but that was not germane.  I may grow to like Amal if he keeps up impressive displays of knowledge and scores, but not yet.  Honest to God, I thought he was going to fall off the dais the way he was flailing on that last DJ clue.  He did whistle well.

Speaking of which, it's not quite as cool as Bastet's moment, but it was fun to see the Rainbow Honor Walk come up since I live right there.  They're an interesting mix of local and international figures and I enjoy seeing people stop to read them, although they're murder when it rains.  One of the plaques is right outside my building, but I won't say which one, since I'm not taking visitors during COVID. 😉

I did know "Bandersnatch."  The choose-your-own-adventure gimmick was interesting but ultimately alienating: I just wanted to explore all possibilities without futzing with the pain-in-the-ass decision tree as it buffered.  I thought the clue was a little muddled.  "Brooker won a Game Writing award for the Netflix movie 'This: Bandersnatch'" would have been clearer.  As written, it seemed to suggest that there was also a separate Netflix movie by the same title as some game.  The punctuation and Oz's reading especially didn’t make it clear that “this” was the first part of the title either.  I got it, but it seemed off.

"Chicago" always makes me think of the night my parents heard about the big new musical film just coming out On Demand, but I guess not how racy it was.  On it went, and I think it dove right into “All That Jazz,” with legs, legs, legs!  Then I think I just about got a peek at a few willowy dancers in lingerie before the TV was suddenly turned off, everyone was invited to grab a book to read, and we’ve never spoken of it again.  I knew something about all this was different from “The Sound of Music,” but only when I finally rewatched that number a few years ago did I understand just what.  God love my folks!

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i said Michelin for FJ.  Why?  I had to say something.

I got the ts of poetry and Emerson.

i got the entire category of plant right and the entire category of bodies of water wrong.  

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