S10.E14: That's Not Amore

[Straycat80]

Is this where Denise stops filming the show? I can’t blame her really, she doesn’t need this show. Garcelle should go with her, she doesn’t fit in and doesn’t need this show either. And take along Sutton too, she doesn’t fit in with the mean girls either. They really need to recast this group. 

[SunnyBeBe]

So the male producer wrangles her back to the table....damn....they ALL have lost their freakin minds!!! I swear...I really am done with this show.  What BS. 

[Straycat80]

So after all that drama and big speech by Denise and the walk out...a producer tells Denise to go back and nothing. They are all friends and talking about sex and stuff. I’m hate watching this show at this point. 

[eleanorofaquitaine]

Oh great, it looks like Brandi is back next week to remind me that she is a crude lying liar who lies. 

[Wicked]

I like Teddi, just putting it out there...

[The Ringo Kidd]

I wish that Denise would just punch Rinna in the face.

[LibertarianSlut]

I’d much rather hear about Tom’s daughter—who is Erika’s age—cooking Thanksgiving dinner for the Girardis, the religions that informed their upbringings, and even Harry Hamlin having a damn baby out of wedlock.  I feel like this is what has been missing from the show.  I’m not entirely enthusiastic about watching them ride Vespas in the rain in Rome, the fashion capital of the world (someone ought to inform New York, Paris and Milan that they’ve been bested, as per Dorit).  

If I wanted to be reminded of Rome, I’d watch the Travel Channel.  I think they get a lot of Housewives vacations wrong on these shows.  I like them to have to be in one place so that drama can happen.  I’m not looking to have a vicarious cultural experience here.  Dorit can stop speaking Italian anytime now.  

I thought it was really interesting how much Kyle and Dorit clammed up when Lisa came to them and told them she was wrong and she made peace with Denise.  They were sort of acting like Rinna switched the playbook on them.  Things that make you go hmm...

Erika’s 1960s mod look slayed.  The hair and makeup were gorgeous.  And she didn’t hold up the group with her glam.  Dorit, take note.  

As soon as Dorit said “Bucco de Peppo,” and “baby shower,” I said, gee, I wonder if that’s going to be the finale...guess it’s not though.  

Denise looked like an asshole to me lecturing the table.  If Aaron told her not to come, and it was the worst vacation of her life, she shouldn’t have come.  Last episode she confided in Garcelle that she tried to get a flight out but couldn’t.  So...what was stopping her from saying “Bravo, Bravo, Bravo,” getting a car and going on her own trip to the Amalfi Coast?  No one was holding her prisoner.  She chose to come to that dinner, have a tantrum, take her toys and almost go home.  

Denise’s reactions‘ timing are always off.  She doesn’t defend herself—or go on the offense—when she should, and when things are peaceful, she goes on the attack.  She’s guilty of everything she accuses the group of, and then she doesn’t let them get in a word edgewise.  I don’t get her.  I really think it’s time to exit stage left.  This isn’t the group for her.  Sort of like Leah on RHNYC.

”You can’t come in here and make a big speech like that and then not hear anyone else’s opinion.”  Preach, producer.  I wish they hadn’t kissed her ass when she came back though.  It’s like rewarding a toddler for crying.  They could have had a perfectly good time without her.  

Sex in a hospital, on a table, on a commercial flight...in Avignon...that’s fun, like the camping trip last year.  Why can’t we get more of that?  Although I felt uneasy after Denise’s return.  Like someone or something was going to snap if everything didn’t go swimmingly.  I fear for this franchise if something doesn’t change with Denise.  It’s too toxic.  Watching this, I feel way too much like a kid whose parents are fighting and I’m wondering if they’re going to get a divorce. ☹️

 

[njbchlover]

  On 8/13/2020 at 1:27 AM, eleanorofaquitaine said:

Two Catholics, an Episcopalian, and a Presbyterian walks into the Vatican... 

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And after that, the Vatican has been closed!!!  

[Guest]

Dorit is diabolical,  She hates Teddi enough to use her baby shower to promote her Buca di Beppo room and get whatever pay she's negotiated for the in show advertising.

I'm starting to think this restaurant is a Bravo advertiser rather than a Dorit side deal just because of the rest of the casts' willingness to humor it.

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[The Ringo Kidd]

I wish Denise would just punch Brandi in the face.

[Bronzedog]

  On 8/13/2020 at 2:03 AM, The Ringo Kidd said:

I wish that Denise would just punch Rinna in the face.

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I wish the universe would punch Rinna in the face.

[chewycandy]

Denise looks reptilian in her talking head. Kyle and Teddi, please go get lost together on a Vespa. Garcelle, you’re my queen. 

[Pop Tart]

  On 8/13/2020 at 2:03 AM, Wicked said:

 

I like Teddi, just putting it out there...

 

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Me too.

[Legalbeagle421]

  On 8/13/2020 at 2:03 AM, Wicked said:

I like Teddi, just putting it out there...

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I do too! You are not alone. 

[njbchlover]

  On 8/13/2020 at 1:31 AM, eleanorofaquitaine said:

Nah, I don't see it. Everyone keeps talking about how all of these ladies must be so jealous of Denise but I don't see why. She's got a crazy ex-husband and an asshole of a current husband. Sure, she wrangled a big pay day for Bravo, but other than that? There isn't much to be jealous of IMO. That being said, I do think Rinna has some unresolved anger towards Denise - maybe it's because of that pay day, maybe Rinna feels like Denise should have paid more dues or something, maybe it's because of something that happened two decades ago. But it's there and she should deal with it. 

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I think Rinna is not jealous of Denise's personal life, but she is jealous of Denise's professional career as well as her rumored contract with RHOBH.  

I also do agree with you that there is some unresolved anger for some reason towards Denise, maybe because of her contract.  

[Callaphera]

The husband, during the Rinna cryfest: "And the Daytime Emmy goes to..."
Me: "Oh, no. I don't think Rinna ever won that."
The husband: "I can see why."

I'm so looking forward to next week when Brandi is there, trying to play the victim again - said no one, ever. 

[Guest]

Showing the producer wrangling Denise back to dinner was so strange.  I'm sure it happens all the time but I can't remember the last time I saw something like that air.

Honestly I kind of thought that its was a bit like snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. for Denise.

They are mean girls.  The reason they played nice after Denise came back instead of continuing to fight is because they knew for that night that she got them.  They'll regroup when they get home.

Edited August 13, 2020 by ParadoxLost

[SunnyBeBe]

As smart as these ladies are, why don’t they understand that it’s much more fun to talk about someone behind their back? It is. Behind their back is more relaxed. You can do it without pissing someone off, without seeing them react poorly, without them getting in your face, attacking you or seeking retribution.  Saying negative things to someone’s face is highly overrated.......lol.   (Kidding..sorta)

[Thumper]

I do not believe Rinna  feels the need to “fix things.”  I think she’s a major pot stirrer.  

[njbchlover]

  On 8/13/2020 at 1:48 AM, JD5166 said:

Oh TEDDI, you all already look bad and you look Ike an asshole in Kyle's hat.

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She looks like the friggin' Wicked Witch of the West!!  

Teddi is such a "fashion don't"!!!  (Does anyone remember that from "Glamour" magazine?)

[Choco9]

Teddi is the most boring housewives of all time.  Period.  That hat also was an abomination.

I still don’t give a fuck if Denise is covering up the Brandi thing.  It’s none of their business anyway and THANK GOD she finally just came out and called them mean girls.  They are disgusting.  And this whole thing was orchestrated by Kyle, Kim, Brandi, Teddi... it’s so obvious and gross.  Denise is the target, they are so transparent you can see through them.

Watching Teddi and Kyle in WWHL and wow, they are so pathetic.  
 

 

 

 

 

[njbchlover]

  On 8/13/2020 at 1:53 AM, SunnyBeBe said:

So, wasn’t that LR in her TH about how they all looked like a-holes last season against LVP and here they are again? What was her point? They even showed a news headline about it. Is she proud of it?

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Not for nothing, but Rinna complaining about being "labeled" as mean girls last season?  Guess what, Rinna - fucking "own it" - YOU ALL WERE MEAN GIRLS!!!! 

[Callaphera]

  On 8/13/2020 at 2:20 AM, njbchlover said:

Not for nothing, but Rinna complaining about being "labeled" as mean girls last season?  Guess what, Rinna - fucking "own it" - YOU ALL WERE MEAN GIRLS!!!! 

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This feels offensive to the Regina Georges of the world. Like, they don't deserve to have Rinna dragging them down. They're far better than that.

[esco1822]

Why does Teddi have such a problem with Denise taking some time to think about the beating she took from the women before she says how she feels? Not everyone is good with confrontation, I actually appreciate when people take some time to be thoughtful about their feelings and words instead of spewing them out like verbal diarrhea. 

[SunnyBeBe]

  On 8/13/2020 at 2:14 AM, ParadoxLost said:

Showing the producer wrangling Denise back to dinner was so strange.  I'm sure it happens all the time but I can't remember the last time I saw something like that air.

Honestly I kind of thought that its was a bit like snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. for Denise.

They are mean girls.  The reason they played nice after Denise came back instead of continuing to fight is because they knew for that night that she got them.  They'll regroup when they get home.

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So much for the claims that the show isn’t staged.  I thought it was supposed to be how they really are.  What a crock.  No one who detest a show as much as I do should watch it. Lol. The only reason I am watching this season is covid, but, it’s so bad, that even that reason can’t justify it.  

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

Squeaky Fromme Mellencamp lost whatever chill she had with this pregnancy.  She is way different. 

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[Kiki777]

Ew Brandi is so crude.  She’s like the female version of Aviva’s dad on RHONY.

[Thumper]

I like Teddi.  (I never really followed how she got blamed for everything in the LVP gang-up  last year.). She reminded me of Father Guido Sarducci (SNL)  in that hat, though!  
 

Not so crazy about her tonight, though.

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[MBJ]

Kyle saying "But it's like waking up on a Sunday, in Las Vegas, you know what I mean?"

Am I supposed to be able to relate to that?

[esco1822]

Can we talk about why Brandi is even invited to Teddi’s shower? Teddi has been very clear that she does not know her well and they are not friends. So much producer manipulation!!

[goofygirl]

It's DEFINITELY ABOUT THE $$$$$ for Rinna.  Hell, the woman shilled for adult diapers on teevee for cryin' out loud!  She's so pissed off Denise strolled in and got more money than she did!  Just like she was steaming over LVP and VanderPump Dogs or whatever.  SHE thinks those two spoiled brat children of hers deserve their own show! Their own clothing line! Their own doorman! At their own apartment! On the first floor!  It's gotta be expen$ive to have to keep the brats in the lifestyle to which they are accustomed.  Not to mention.... $$$$$$ for Harry's canadian hideaway!

Teddi is just a simpleton.  She seems dumber and dumber every time she opens her mouth.  Maybe it's the pregnancy brain. Who knows.

Thank goodness for Garcelle.

[Rahul]

Lisa Rinna is phonier than her fake lips. Why can’t Denise see through her crocodile tears? That’s been Rinna’s modus operandi when she gets called out for being a piece of shit.

I’m not a violent person but I had an overwhelming urge to give Rinna a swift kick to the face. Her behavior towards her “friend” Denise was the worst of the bunch. Totally unacceptable. Rinna is long overdue for a reckoning and I hope she gets it.

[Thumper]

I’d leave too (Garcelle and Denise) around those women.  They will.not.let.it.go.  Exhausting.

 

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[The Ringo Kidd]

I wish Denise would just punch Vile Richards in her lying, crying face.

[Legalbeagle421]

  On 8/13/2020 at 2:31 AM, Ms Blue Jay said:

Kyle saying "But it's like waking up on a Sunday, in Las Vegas, you know what I mean?"

Am I supposed to be able to relate to that?

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I was literally thinking to myself, "what does that even mean?" 🤔

[Callaphera]

  On 8/13/2020 at 2:37 AM, Legalbeagle421 said:

I was literally thinking to myself, "what does that even mean?" 🤔

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Hung over, broke, and morally bankrupt. I think she was only aiming for the first one but I think the third one might apply, too. 

[MBJ]

Teddi looks so dumb in her hat and she reminds me of this infamous Wendy Williams GIF

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[Jel]

Welp, it's official: I LOATHE KYLE RICHARDS. 

(Teddi's not important enough to hate)

[Pop Tart]

  On 8/13/2020 at 2:35 AM, Thumper said:

leave too (Garcelle and Denise) around those women too.  They will.not.let.it.go.  Exhausting.

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But that’s what I don’t get. They weren’t the ones who brought it up again at that last dinner. Denise did with her big speech. Garcelle was even dismayed when Denise started in. That was what began things all over again.

Fine if Denise wants to talk about it more, but then she turns around and plays the victim because the others won’t let it go. Lost me there. 

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[MBJ]

  On 8/13/2020 at 2:14 AM, ParadoxLost said:

Showing the producer wrangling Denise back to dinner was so strange.  I'm sure it happens all the time but I can't remember the last time I saw something like that air.

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Extremely, extremely weird.  The housewives have to take orders like that?  Fuck that.  What if Denise said No?  

  On 8/13/2020 at 2:22 AM, esco1822 said:

Why does Teddi have such a problem with Denise taking some time to think about the beating she took from the women before she says how she feels? 

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Maybe because Teddi is the stupidest person alive?

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[dbell1]

Fuck Teddi and her stupid hat. 

[RealHousewife]

What they want from Denise is "Yes I cheated on my husband with Brandi. She's a sweet, naive girl, and I took advantage of her vulnerability. The negative things Brandi's said and infidelity rumors about your marriages throughout the years are all untrue. Brandi may say things for shock value, exaggerate and even lie about other people, but pertaining to me, Brandi couldn't possibly be a liar. I'm also a trash talker. You all never say an unkind word about anybody. You just speak your truth! I know all the confrontations and aggression at every party I attend is because you are all just truth seekers. After all, you're such honest, noble people. The multiple lawsuits must all be frivolous. The way you and your husbands all maintain your lifestyles must be through sheer hard work. The rumors about your marriages must have no merit. Let's not talk about your husbands or anything that hurts your lives. Because I married Charlie Sheen, my kids and their young friends don't deserve respect. No one should dare joke about your husband cheating around your kids, that's just wrong. I'm the only one who was married to Charlie Sheen, so feel free to talk as though my kids have heard it all, if they haven't already done it all. And because we can't talk about all the gossip pertaining to your marriages and livelihoods, because your families didn't sign up for this, I guess we must go after anything in my life because it's what I signed up for with Housewives. Aaron and our children just aren't as important as drama for the show or your marriages and children. I'm not sure exactly why, but I bet it makes perfect sense."

What they deserve from Denise is "Fuck off."

[ShawnaLanne]

  On 8/13/2020 at 1:11 AM, whydoievencare said:

To summarize how these bitches are going after Denise at the dinner - it's akin to the question "When did you stop beating your wife?"    There will never be an answer that suits them that doesn't mean Denise is at fault (though I'm unsure what the actual transgression is).  Kyle, Rinna and Teddi are clearly in the camp that is choosing to back Brandi's stories.  And they are (Rinna especially) using the excuse that she isn't being honest and open and owning it. All the things Rinna is accusing Denise of, Rinna is the master of herself.  She's such a cunt.

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I think the issue is Kyle thinks she's HBIC and that Denise is supposed to worship at the alter of Kyle. Typical high school click crud.

[SunnyBeBe]

  On 8/13/2020 at 2:55 AM, RealHousewife said:

What they want from Denise is "Yes I cheated on my husband with Brandi. She's a sweet, naive girl, and I took advantage of her vulnerability. The negative things Brandi's said and infidelity rumors about your marriages throughout the years are all untrue. Brandi may say things for shock value, exaggerate and even lie about other people, but pertaining to me, Brandi couldn't possibly be a liar. I'm also a trash talker. You all never say an unkind word about anybody. You just speak your truth! I know all the confrontations and aggression at every party I attend is because you are all just truth seekers. After all, you're such honest, noble people. The multiple lawsuits must all be frivolous. The way you and your husbands all maintain your lifestyles must be through sheer hard work. The rumors about your marriages must have no merit. Let's not talk about your husbands or anything that hurts your lives. Because I married Charlie Sheen, my kids and their young friends don't deserve respect. No one should dare joke about your husband cheating around your kids, that's just wrong. I'm the only one who was married to Charlie Sheen, so feel free to talk as though my kids have heard it all, if they haven't already done it all. And because we can't talk about all the gossip pertaining to your marriages and livelihoods, because your families didn't sign up for this, I guess we must go after anything in my life because it's what I signed up for with Housewives. Aaron and our children just aren't as important as drama for the show or your marriages and children. I'm not sure exactly why, but I bet it makes perfect sense."

What they deserve from Denise is "Fuck off."

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Omg. I wish Denise could have gotten this speech before the season wrapped up!

[Guest]

  On 8/13/2020 at 2:22 AM, SunnyBeBe said:

So much for the claims that the show isn’t staged.  I thought it was supposed to be how they really are.  What a crock.  No one who detest a show as much as I do should watch it. Lol. The only reason I am watching this season is covid, but, it’s so bad, that even that reason can’t justify it.  

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I know what you mean,  I can't recall the last time I watched a Bravo show without wondering if I was contributing to the downfall of humanity,  They are all so awful.  But there is so little else to watch.

[Thumper]

  On 8/13/2020 at 2:42 AM, Pop Tart said:

But that’s what I don’t get. They weren’t the ones who brought it up again at that last dinner. Denise did with her big speech. Garcelle was even dismayed when Denise started in. That was what began things all over again.

Fine if Denise wants to talk about it more, but then she turns around and plays the victim because the others won’t let it go. Lost me there. 

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That was weird.  I wonder if, as someone mentioned upthread, Denise is someone who doesn’t think well on her feet and needs time to plan her response/argument.  I know I’m like that if attacked!

[SunnyBeBe]

  On 8/13/2020 at 3:01 AM, Thumper said:

That was weird.  I wonder if, as someone mentioned upthread, Denise is someone who doesn’t think well on her feet and needs time to plan her response/argument.  I know I’m like that if attacked!

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It takes most people some time to recall the details of conversations that happened weekS, months or years ago.  I think that’s perfectly normal. And, if Denise did lie to cover up something private.....I don’t fault her at all. 

[tabloidlover]

Teddy and Kyle need to get the hell out and off this show.  I realized tonight that I just feel rage while watching the disaster that the show has become.

[Ladybugnine]

  On 8/13/2020 at 3:06 AM, tabloidlover said:

Teddy and Kyle need to get the hell out and off this show.  I realized tonight that I just feel rage while watching the disaster that the show has become.

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Teddy and Kyle?!? Really?

[SunnyBeBe]

I can’t imagine what Kyle would do without this show.  She really seems to crave being this big celebrity on RHOBH.  I think it might really crush her.