S10.E14: That's Not Amore

[ancslove]

I think Teddi's issue with Denise really is that she thinks Denise dislikes her, and Brandi confirmed that.  And honestly, from Denise's own words, she seems to be correct.  But Denise won't actually come out and say it to her face.  And that's Denise's big problem - she can be visibly fuming, but will insist to everyone in front of her that she's fine and there's no problem.  Andy Cohen really needs to throw Bethenny at her.  

Denise's timeline re: Brandi is confusing, and probably shifty, but I think that they were probably both gossiping and bitching about the other women, and regardless of whoever said things first, Denise basically agreed with everything Brandi then told Kyle and Teddi.  If she had just said "Hey, I was upset after Santa Barbara and vented things I was feeling in the moment, but that I don't really mean," it's possible the outcome would have been a bit different.  But she initially acted like she'd never even think that Erika can be cold and she doesn't like Teddi, and where could this possibly be coming from?  

I can't quite get a handle on Garcelle.  In her interviews, she says she's cheering Denise on for standing up for herself.  But in the moment, she won't look at Denise, and then she rushes outside, thus breaking Denise's rhythm and putting everyone else even more on edge.  Plus, she has a thing for getting very intrusively personal with people she just doesn't know that well, and I find that off-putting.  I go back to her confrontation with Kyle, saying that Kyle glances over her and stays very superficial.  And honestly, I can't blame Kyle for wanting to stay on the surface, and not talk in depth about her finances and body issues.

[Pop Tart]

4 minutes ago, Thumper said:

23 minutes ago, Pop Tart said:

That was weird.  I wonder if, as someone mentioned upthread, Denise is someone who doesn’t think well on her feet and needs time to plan her response/argument.  I know I’m like that if attacked!

I get it if Denise had to think about how to respond. But she presents her prepared remarks, reigniting the topic, and then is upset when the others respond. It’s then that she just has to leave because they won’t let it go? If she hadn’t restarted things I doubt any of them would have brought it up.

And in fact she was the one who brought Brandi up at their second night’s dinner when she told them all the things Brandi had supposedly said about them. She starts things up, totally her right, but then says she’s under attack when they respond .

[PhilMarlowe2]

1 hour ago, LibertarianSlut said:

It’s so interesting that now Denise is saying that Brandi said that Erika was cold and Denise agreed.  That’s what she’s saying now.  The night before, Denise looked completely baffled and acted like she had no idea how the message about Teddi could have been conveyed, because she doesn’t talk to Denise.  There are bad liars, there are horrible liars, and then there’s Denise.  

Seriously. And it's so confusing because you'd think that someone who is so intent on controlling the narrative would be a way better liar at this point. Maybe she's just better at shutting things down in her real life, such that Denise never has to lie on the spot. 

[SunnyBeBe]

If a group of my so  called friends targeted me, called me a liar to my face, sided with a known liar whack-a-doodle and tried to ruin my trip to Rome, I’d let them have it when the spirit hit me. And if I caught them off guard....all the better. The mean girls don’t get to call the shots when it’s my hurt feelings at stake. But, that’s just how I would approach it.  I’m not as nice as Denise. Lol

[Callaphera]

7 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I can’t imagine what Kyle would do without this show.  She really seems to crave being this big celebrity on RHOBH.  I think it might really crush her. 

I'm all right with that.

[The Ringo Kidd]

 Satan Andy played that game of “When did Kyle cry” where she has to guess from a photo when she was weeping.

I was curious about why he didn’t show her crocodile tears when she outed her sister for being an alcoholic?

Kyle is all about outing people’s personal secrets to serve her ends. She just used her minion Teddy to do it this time.

[Rahul]

1 hour ago, Straycat80 said:

If these women want to be better People and good friends to Denise they should just shut their traps, mind their own business, and Drop the nosey questions about what dumbass Brandi did or didn’t say. 

In what world would you characterize the relationships between these women as "friendship?" If I didn't know better and was just tuning in for the first time, I would think this was a reality competition comprised of antagonistic teams trying to decimate and obliterate one another.

Never in my life do I want a friend like these BH women.

[Rahul]

1 hour ago, Bronzedog said:

I wish the universe would punch Rinna in the face.

It will. Karma is a bitch and she's coming for Rinna!

1 hour ago, ParadoxLost said:

Showing the producer wrangling Denise back to dinner was so strange.  I'm sure it happens all the time but I can't remember the last time I saw something like that air.

Honestly I kind of thought that its was a bit like snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. for Denise.

I really wish Denise had the conviction to walk away from these women and not return after producer intervention. The coven (minus Garcelle) is a highly toxic bunch.

[Adgirl]

1 hour ago, Bronzedog said:

wish the universe would punch Rinna in the face.

Hasn't it?

 

[UsernameFatigue]

11 hours ago, Pop Tart said:

I get it if Denise had to think about how to respond. But she presents her prepared remarks, reigniting the topic, and then is upset when the others respond. It’s then that she just has to leave because they won’t let it go? If she hadn’t restarted things I doubt any of them would have brought it up.

And in fact she was the one who brought Brandi up at their second night’s dinner when she told them all the things Brandi had supposedly said about them. She starts things up, totally her right, but then says she’s under attack when they respond .

It seems to me that every time the women get together, Denise contradicts what she has said previously. In this episode she said that Brandi is the one who said all the negative things about the women. But as Teddi pointed out, why did Denise not say the night before that it was Brandi who said those things? Instead she just denied saying them herself. Would that not be a normal reaction? Unless of course Denise is lying though her teeth. Which I think she is. There were several times that Teddi called Denise on her BS and inconsistencies, and for that I give Teddi a standing O. 

I don't think I have ever seen footage of a producer intervening during a shoot? As others have said, we know it happens, but to have it shown? Bravo must really be tired of Denise's antics. As am I. And this is coming from someone who actually liked Denise last season. 

 

Edited August 13, 2020 by UsernameFatigue

[SunnyBeBe]

Just now, Rahul said:

It will. Karma is a bitch and she's coming for Rinna!

I really wish Denise had the conviction to walk away from these women and not return after producer intervention. The coven (minus Garcelle) is a highly toxic bunch.

Me too, but I guess she didn’t want to get in trouble for breach of contract. She’s already, obviously on the ship list. 

[Axie]

2 minutes ago, Adgirl said:

Hasn't it?

 

Oh.  Is that what happened to her lips?  A big old case of karma lips?

[ShawnaLanne]

39 minutes ago, ancslove said:

I think Teddi's issue with Denise really is that she thinks Denise dislikes her, and Brandi confirmed that.  And honestly, from Denise's own words, she seems to be correct.  But Denise won't actually come out and say it to her face.  And that's Denise's big problem - she can be visibly fuming, but will insist to everyone in front of her that she's fine and there's no problem.  Andy Cohen really needs to throw Bethenny at her.  

Denise's timeline re: Brandi is confusing, and probably shifty, but I think that they were probably both gossiping and bitching about the other women, and regardless of whoever said things first, Denise basically agreed with everything Brandi then told Kyle and Teddi.  If she had just said "Hey, I was upset after Santa Barbara and vented things I was feeling in the moment, but that I don't really mean," it's possible the outcome would have been a bit different.  But she initially acted like she'd never even think that Erika can be cold and she doesn't like Teddi, and where could this possibly be coming from?  

I can't quite get a handle on Garcelle.  In her interviews, she says she's cheering Denise on for standing up for herself.  But in the moment, she won't look at Denise, and then she rushes outside, thus breaking Denise's rhythm and putting everyone else even more on edge.  Plus, she has a thing for getting very intrusively personal with people she just doesn't know that well, and I find that off-putting.  I go back to her confrontation with Kyle, saying that Kyle glances over her and stays very superficial.  And honestly, I can't blame Kyle for wanting to stay on the surface, and not talk in depth about her finances and body issues.

That is me. I need time to think out, or preferably write out, a response to even know what I'm feeling and I don't like confrontation until I've internalized my thoughts, so I'll make nice in the moment. 

[SunnyBeBe]

I wish that another network would give Bravo some real competition. You know, a few series about and by women that isn’t toxic BS. Get some authentic, interesting women who have more to say and do than spread evil. It shouldn’t be that difficult....well, after covid is under control. 

[Callaphera]

Honestly, if I were Denise, I'd be changing my story at every meal just for shits and giggles, to see how much these women are going to tie themselves up in knots to try and prove their points. You might as well have some fun with it. Sure, they would never trust anything she would say ever again but it's not like they believe anything she says now. 

[SunnyBeBe]

1 minute ago, Callaphera said:

Honestly, if I were Denise, I'd be changing my story at every meal just for shits and giggles, to see how much these women are going to tie themselves up in knots to try and prove their points. You might as well have some fun with it. Sure, they would never trust anything she would say ever again but it's not like they believe anything she says now. 

Yeah, because we know how they all hate liars!   Next thing you know there’re going to hook’um up to a polygraph machine! Lol

[Lady of nod]

2 hours ago, whydoievencare said:

Rinna clearly doesn't know the meaning of love if she's telling Denise that she invited her to Rome because she loves her.  That's not how anyone behaves with a loved one.  She's a nasty woman who doesn't own any of her shit.  She clearly has an axe to grind with her long time "friend".  I'm sure all the Rinna tears are a way to deflect Denise being upset with her - she'll be back to her original agenda in about two minutes.  What a phoney.

Rhinna and Kyle are the queens of deflecting. Anything to avoid talking about their own family messes. Thet are both horrible people. Teddy is just plain fucking boring and annoying and so happy to be Vile Kyle' backup. and Erika IS cold as ice, why are they debating that? 

I had a supervisor at a job once who talked trash about everyone  to everyone. Nobody really took her seriously and wouldn't agree or disagree. But she would then turn it around as if we were the ones spewing the venom. Is it possible that's what Brandi does?

Brandi is a desperate fame whore who will say anything for screen time. I really don't care if Denise slept with Brandi or not. Why should they?  And if she did why should she tell them? Is this suitable dinner conversation? 

The only enjoyable part of tonight's epi was the last few minutes. I thought thank God they're done with this. Silly me, cause next week she's back with Kyle and Teddy glued to her every word. Ugh. Enough already.

[marymary]

Ugh Denise is ruining this show for me. I know that’s an unpopular opinion, but i can’t stand her. I think she’s  inauthentic, manipulative, and a liar. 

I used to love coming to read the forums after a new episode, but now it’s full of people treating Denise like her shit doesn’t stink, while being cruel about anyone they feel has wronged Denise. I really hope she isn’t back next season. 

[The Ringo Kidd]

I hope that if Denise comes back next season she refuses to film with Kyle, Teddy, Rinna and Erika.

I don’t know if that is possible but hope that it is.

 

[Kiss my mutt]

2 hours ago, VedaPierce said:

There is something really wrong with Rinna. She’s not tight in the head. 

Starvation will do that you!

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, PhilMarlowe2 said:

Seriously. And it's so confusing because you'd think that someone who is so intent on controlling the narrative would be a way better liar at this point. Maybe she's just better at shutting things down in her real life, such that Denise never has to lie on the spot. 

I honestly think that with Denise, shutting down or walking away from any type of confrontation is a defense mechanism, possibly something she perfected during her marriage to Charlie Sheen.  As is possibly addressing that same confrontational issue at a later time, when more "sober" heads may have prevailed.  

Denise may automatically go to this type of behavior when she feels threatened or hurt, both of which she's been feeling throughout this entire trip.  She may not even realize that she's doing it, it's just a natural reaction at this point.  

I'm not a huge fan of Denise's, but she did not deserve to be treated, night after night, to interrogations about what she may or may not have done with or said to Brandi.  The women (particularly, Kyle, Teddi and Rinna) are just looking for validation for their cattiness and gossipy behaviors.  They want Denise to fall on ground, beating herself, screaming "Oh, please forgive me for talking about you behind your backs!!!  Forgive me for doing the same thing you all have been doing to me!!!  Forgive me for challenging that sleazy, desperate, drunk and disgusting fame-whoring woman that you all hated up until she had some good dirt to spill."

I am disgusted with all of this, and so disappointed with the direction that this, and all the other housewife franchises, have taken.  It's no longer just about a bunch of rich women, seeing how they live and interact....now, if there isn't constant drama (whether fabricated or producer-driven), the show is nothing.  The women are constantly trying to bring more and more drama to secure their "spot" for the next season.  I've been a faithful fan of the housewife franchises since they began, but they are really starting to lose me at this point.  Especially when seeing this last bit of "drama" will have serious ramifications and after effects on an entire family for quite some time. 

Edited August 13, 2020 by njbchlover

[suomi]

40 minutes ago, PhilMarlowe2 said:

Seriously. And it's so confusing because you'd think that someone who is so intent on controlling the narrative would be a way better liar at this point. Maybe she's just better at shutting things down in her real life, such that Denise never has to lie on the spot. 

People who lie a lot get good at it, and they think quickly. Practice makes perfect. I am more inclined to believe someone who stumbles and fumbles, and needs time to gather their thoughts.

[njbchlover]

15 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Yeah, because we know how they all hate liars!   Next thing you know there’re going to hook’um up to a polygraph machine! Lol

That was already done by Lisa Vanderpump last season, and they still didn't believe her!!  

[Lady of nod]

26 minutes ago, ShawnaLanne said:

That is me. I need time to think out, or preferably write out, a response to even know what I'm feeling and I don't like confrontation until I've internalized my thoughts, so I'll make nice in the moment. 

I agree. If I walked into a dinner with my coworkers and they all came at me with the garbage they're attacking Denise with, I'd be speechless and confused too. Too bad her good friend Rhinna, or any of these bitches didn't give her a heads up. Or Gid forbid, not bring it up at all. 

[njbchlover]

6 minutes ago, suomi said:

People who lie a lot get good at it, and they think quickly. Practice makes perfect. I am more inclined to believe someone who stumbles and fumbles, and needs time to gather their thoughts.

Gee....this sounds exactly like, ummm - I don't know - Brandi Glanville??  

 

[Marley]

Oh my god Teddi needs to shut the fuck up.

Rinna needs to shut the fuck up too. Maybe Rinna needs to own it. Her garbage daughters and her pathetic fake marriage.

I honestly hate Teddi she’s such garbage.

Why are they so obsessed with Brandi and thinking she’s a truth teller. Brandi is complete trash.

Rinna is garbage and she is 100% the cause of her daughters issues.

Recast this garbage!

[hoodooznoodooz]

"What I can say, Garcelle, is I am so proud of her for coming out the way that she has in a public forum. And talking about it. Am I going to stop dancing around in my underwear and swimsuits and posting it on Instagram? No, of course not."

[ParadoxLost]

10 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I am disgusted with all of this, and so disappointed with the direction that this, and all the other housewife franchises, have taken.  It's no longer just about a bunch of rich women, seeing how they live and interact....now, 

Every once in a while I like to toss out into the universe that this mythical nirvana of HW shows that was about seeing how rich women lived and interacted and was less icky than it is now never existed.  It most especially never existed on RHoBH.  They've gotten better at the reality TV game but they aren't anymore vile than they used to be.

Before season two one of the husband's committed suicide.  And the show wasn't the only issue in his life, but the toxicity of it wasn't a non issue.

And then there is Kyle vs Kim and Kyle vs Camille and the Dinner from hell and the original grifter, Taylor.

Its almost reassuring that this cesspool seems a little more fake than it used to be.

 

[princelina]

3 hours ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

I know people here hate Teddi but her approach seems to be the most sensible. I would also proceed with caution with Denise, given how weird and squirrely she's being. 

I would too - what I would NOT do is present Denise with a bunch of accusations and then sanctimoniously announce that I was taking the cautious high road.

3 hours ago, nexxie said:

Teddi is smart to be cautious around this group - especially after falling for the LVP manipulation. “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”

Since she seems to be doing the bidding of Kyle, Brandi and Rinna - I'd say shame on her 😄 

3 hours ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

Sutton's unabashed elitism is not cute. 

But SHE thinks it's adorable 🙄

3 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

If these women want to be better People and good friends to Denise they should just shut their traps, mind their own business, and Drop the nosey questions about what dumbass Brandi did or didn’t say. 

 

2 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

As smart as these ladies are, why don’t they understand that it’s much more fun to talk about someone behind their back? It is. Behind their back is more relaxed. You can do it without pissing someone off, without seeing them react poorly, without them getting in your face, attacking you or seeking retribution.  Saying negative things to someone’s face is highly overrated.......lol.   (Kidding..sorta)

Yes!  I've always found it's best to let someone vent about another who annoyed them and then go back and have fun with "the group" - honesty about everything is the easiest way to ruin everyone's day! (Or trip to Rome 😄 )

 

2 hours ago, njbchlover said:

She looks like the friggin' Wicked Witch of the West!!  

 

2 hours ago, Thumper said:

I like Teddi.  (I never really followed how she got blamed for everything in the LVP gang-up  last year.). She reminded me of Father Guido Sarducci (SNL)  in that hat, though!  

Haha these are great!  I thought that maybe while the others were getting glammed up she had joined the mafia 😄 

1 hour ago, Pop Tart said:

I get it if Denise had to think about how to respond. But she presents her prepared remarks, reigniting the topic, and then is upset when the others respond. It’s then that she just has to leave because they won’t let it go? If she hadn’t restarted things I doubt any of them would have brought it up.

😂🤣😂🤣😂 You're adorable 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[mbaywife123]

Let's just talk about it all:

Kyle, YOU are a total deflector so that people won't focus on your stoned and checked out cheating husband.

Rinna, your husband has moved to Canada and your spawn are total entitled twats!

Erika, you could freeze ice on your ass and what about your hubbys legal problems?

Dorit, you are like the the neighbors dog who shits in my yard but attempts to put a glam spin on it. No PK this season hmmm...

Teddi, you are BORING and are like yesterday's stale leftovers from a fast food resturant reheated in the microwave, just yuck.

Denise, all I have to say to you is call them out and Fuck them over, including 51 minds, but good!

Garcelle, nice lady not cut out for this bullshit.

Sutton, same reply as for Garcelle, although pretentious she is what we watch for on RHWBH, excess shopping porn & housing porn (housing & home life unable to show per her ex).

By the way Blabby Sadville is getting dragged on her a Twitter. 

 

 

[Aim123]

2 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Kyle saying "But it's like waking up on a Sunday, in Las Vegas, you know what I mean?"

Am I supposed to be able to relate to that?

Unfortunately, I knew exactly what she was talking about 😂

[Marley]

Also I fucking loved Denise going off on them. She spoke nothing but the truth. They are a bunch of fucking mean girl bitches. Fuck the stupid producer tho.

Ugh Teddi is such a loser.

Hey bitches you are a bunch of mean girl bullies fucking realize it.

Ugh more trash Brandi next week. Gross.

[ParadoxLost]

26 minutes ago, suomi said:

People who lie a lot get good at it, and they think quickly. Practice makes perfect. I am more inclined to believe someone who stumbles and fumbles, and needs time to gather their thoughts.

What confuses we about Denise is that she spends a day thinking about what she has to say and then contradicts herself without realizing or acknowledging that she contradicts herself.  I half wonder sometimes if they reshoot a lot and she's so used to being an actress that she gives them multiple options expecting that they will pick a consistent through line in editing. And then they don't and we wonder why she 's flip flopping without giving any clues that she is aware of it.

I don't really understand why Denise hasn't gone on the offensive in one of these dinners without sliding back into something like I'm not calling you that name, I'm telling you how I'm feeling.  What Teddi has done (and Kyle although she got Teddi to do the dirtywork) is pretty terrible even if its true.  It should be fairly easy to come back at her.  I mean Teddi kind of deserves Denise coming back and saying, I don't like you and yes I said some things behind your back about the reasons I don't like you...but look at what you just did, you came after me and my marriage on Brandi Glanville's word..  I wasn't wrong about you and I think if you take a look at yourself and accountability for your actions you'll come to realize I'm not wrong and you have some things to work on.

[suomi]

Just finished watching in my time zone. How fucking convenient that the coven took a quick vote and decided to put it ALL behind them as soon as they realized that Denise clearly had decided to kick some ass. The bitches got to present their side and clutch their pearls numerous times over recent episodes so of course they are not the ones looking for satisfaction or closure.

But, on WWHL Vyle and Teddi Who are continuing to present their case... and Denise is nowhere around. Fuck off, show. 

[ShawnaLanne]

1 hour ago, njbchlover said:

Gee....this sounds exactly like, ummm - I don't know - Brandi Glanville??  

 

Brandi had plenty of time in this planned attack to prepare. She's also changed up her story. Even if I did believe they had sex, and it's not out of the realm of possibility, I absolutely do not believe Brandi's story surrounding it

IMO there is a huge underpinning of tittering homophobia in their response, and that alone makes me despise them. 

[suomi]

I think production/that producer knew the coven was going to propose a truce and Denise blew that when she said she wanted her car brought around. That's why he stepped in and brought her back. Her first instinct, that she was facing a Who Me stonewall, was correct. She should have stayed with Plan A and burned them bitches to the ground. I don't think confrontation comes easily to her because this isn't the first time she second-guessed herself and missed an opportunity. 

[ivygirl]

Not a big fan of Erika but I do appreciate her eating habits. I love a fancy dinner but I also appreciate the Kids Meal on occasion. 🤣

[VedaPierce]

11 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

I don’t blame Teddi for being confused this time around.  Denise lied, contradicted herself, Dorit had to start telling Denise’s story, thus Teddi sought clarity.  I know Teddi’s annoying, and I know she has a track record for being “confused” about petty things as an attempt to harp on them, but as soon as Denise lied, it put Teddi in the right.  This is what’s so annoying about Denise’s reaction.  It makes me side with Teddi.  

It’s so interesting that now Denise is saying that Brandi said that Erika was cold and Denise agreed.  That’s what she’s saying now.  The night before, Denise looked completely baffled and acted like she had no idea how the message about Teddi could have been conveyed, because she doesn’t talk to Denise.  There are bad liars, there are horrible liars, and then there’s Denise.  

Lisa doesn’t have an ounce of compassion.  Every single thing she does is for the camera.  I’m not sure why Denise was talking to her like there’s a heart and soul in there, instead of an anorexic hamster running on a wheel, trying to get its 10,000 steps in.  

If I was trash-talking someone and then got confronted about it on camera, by 6 people staring at me around a dinner table, and the source was the town drunk, there’s a good chance I would lie too. Especially about such stupid things like Erika being a cold bitch and Teddi being a talentless hack who got where she is because of her dad. There are lies and there are lies. Does my ass look fat in those white leggings? No darling, you look fabulous. Did I overcook your hamburger on the grill, which I made for you after rushing home from work? No my love, I love it this way, pass the ketchup. I see now that Denise probably lied about some aspect of this ‘storyline’, and I don’t care at this point. It’s just not important to me or as disgusting as being ambushed in a foreign country by these petty losers who have their noses out of joint because Denise called them out on talking about threesomes in front of her minor daughters. I’m sure Brandi’s retelling is full of holes and inaccuracies too. It’s a disgusting thing that she did, earn someone’s trust then run to betray them for NO. REASON. AT. ALL. Feh.

My dad is as kind and gentle and wise as can be. And he taught me at an early age: If they are interrogating you, deny, deny, deny. Never admit to anything. Chances are, they have no proof.

I say this with tongue in cheek a little, and he was also basing it on the time he was interrogated by the KGB (!) ... (however so true when I see what I see of the world today).

Edited August 13, 2020 by VedaPierce

[Mr. Miner]

If somebody is going to get punched in the face, my vote is for twat poser Dorit. I've hated her since her first season.

[psychoticstate]

Thank you, Denise, for pointing out the obvious (at least to most people.)  Kyle says (paraphrasing) "something is out there.  We have to address it."  Denise;  "No, we don't!"  Exactly.  When that "something" was rumors of Mauricio's cheating, did we have to address it, Kyle?  Did you feel that way, Kyle, when the oh-so-honest Brandi Glanville was accusing Kim of doing meth in the bathroom during Game Night?  

No, not everything has to be addressed.  These women say they don't care whether Denise hooked up with Brandi or not and then in the next breath, they're pushing Denise to come clean, admit everything.  Seriously, just stop.  

Garcelle is 100% right.  Why are they choosing to believe Brandi, based on her words only, but not believe Denise, based on  her words?  Whether what Brandi said about hooking up is true or not, it has ZERO to do with these women.  The only thing that concerns them is what Denise may have said about them but as the old saying goes, it's none of my business what anyone says about me.  So again, let it go!  

I'm ashamed that I used to like Rinna.  She is such an ugly "friend."  She knows Denise, someone who has supposedly been her friend for 20 years, is going to be attacked with the Brandi stories and she sits back, rubs her hands with glee and waits for it to happen.  She jumps all over Denise for not "owning it," and then gets pissed for Denise to put a story or rumor out there that Brandi has potentially hooked up with her or Kyle.  Isn't that EXACTLY what these dumb women have been doing for the last 2 or so episodes with regard to the Denise-Brandi stories/rumors?   They are putting something out there that is a rumor - but of course it doesn't bother them if it's not about them.  Bitches. 

Teddi is full of shit when she says she hopes Denise proves her wrong.  No, she's already got her mind made up.  I'll let you in on something, Teddi.  Denise doesn't like you because you're a shit stirrer.  

Never thought I would like Dorito but I actually like Dorito this season.  Sure, she's still pretentious but at least she seems sincere in the whole "we don't care if Denise hooked up with Brandi."  I don't think she does.  And she does seem to be trying to keep the waters calm.

OF COURSE next week Brandi is back and OF COURSE it will be so the assholes can get more "clarity" on the situation with Denise.  Honestly, this is why Kyle is "too busy" to work on Teddi's baby shower or anything else.  It's not because she's so busy filming movies or tv, it's not because she's so busy with her husband, it's because she's poking around in other people's business.  

[Bossa Nova]

10 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

Is this where Denise stops filming the show? I can’t blame her really, she doesn’t need this show. Garcelle should go with her, she doesn’t fit in and doesn’t need this show either. And take along Sutton too, she doesn’t fit in with the mean girls either. They really need to recast this group. 

Agreed.

I keep thinking as I watch the group scenes at dinner, then trying to keep track of the paired off scenes with two, oh there are two, ...oh and where are the other two.

There are too goddamn many cast members. WTF ! 8 is too many. 

If the producers need 7 plus 8 (Sutton) to keep the show interesting, then the existing cast just isnt interesting. 

Shave off: Sutton of course, Teddi, Erika, even the likable Garcelle. I know we all hate Rinna, but there are core organic relationships between Rinna, Denise, Kyle. As for Dorit ? Dont know. 

Edited August 13, 2020 by Bossa Nova

[tranquilidade]

The thing I don't get is this.  The group wants Denise to admit she doesn't like them but when she expresses any criticism at all about how they act or what they do they become very offended.  How is making her admit to talking about them behind their backs going to clear the air when they show they can't take the truth?  

 

I also found Rinna's apology a soap opera scene of her own devising and watching her flip again to :Let's not call each other names...proved it for me.  Her friendship is as fake as her lips.

[tranquilidade]

11 hours ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

Nah, I don't see it. Everyone keeps talking about how all of these ladies must be so jealous of Denise but I don't see why. She's got a crazy ex-husband and an asshole of a current husband. Sure, she wrangled a big pay day for Bravo, but other than that? There isn't much to be jealous of IMO. That being said, I do think Rinna has some unresolved anger towards Denise - maybe it's because of that pay day, maybe Rinna feels like Denise should have paid more dues or something, maybe it's because of something that happened two decades ago. But it's there and she should deal with it. 

I think they are jealous but as you point out and by the nature of jealousy itself it is not rational.  Denise has an attentive husband right now who stands by her side and even fights for her, something none of them have.  Denise still gets work and they all want that for themselves and even though most of them are getting it they are very insecure about their futures in this area.   These two things alone could trigger jealousy.  Jealousy is often based on a person's perception of what another person's life is like and that perception is rarely an accurate one and more of a fantasy in the jealous person's head.  For example, people look at social media and think that a person's life is reflected in their pictures and postings when in fact that stuff is only a tiny and very filtered and often contrived fraction of a person's real world. Jealous people create the whole scenario in their heads, and often the subject of their jealousy has no idea this is happening. It makes any real friendship impossible because it drives passive aggressive behavior and fuels anger but honestly you don't have to have anything much at all for a person to be jealous of you. 

[Gini67]

So just like puppy gate last year I have to say I’m a smart woman but this has gotten so convoluted I’m not even sure what the issue is.... Are they really sitting around every dinner table in Rome demanding that Denise confess that she had an affair with Brandi? Is that what they think they r deserving of when demanding “the truth”? ... I don’t even like Denise but do all of u demand your friends to tell every  explicit detail of their sex life or else they’re keeping something from you? 
PS I decided last night I also don’t like Sutton...

[Ohiopirate02]

14 minutes ago, Bossa Nova said:

Agreed.

I keep thinking as I watch the group scenes at dinner, then trying to keep track of the paired off scenes with two, oh there are two, ...oh and where are the other two.

There are too goddamn many cast members. WTF ! 8 is too many. 

If the producers need 7 plus 8 (Sutton) to keep the show interesting, then the existing cast just isnt interesting. 

Shave off: Sutton of course, Teddi, Erika, even the likable Garcelle. I know we all hate Rinna, but there are core organic relationships between Rinna, Denise, Kyle. As for Dorit ? Dont know. 

The producers need 8 women because the core group of housewives are not willing to share their lives anymore.  I feel like I have been saying this for weeks, but with all of the lawsuits against the husbands Erika, Dorit and Kyle have really stiffled any organic drama from the group.  They want to tiptoe around these issues and do not have the brainpower necessary to spin any elaborate falsehoods.  So they decided to attack Denise early on about Brandi in order to deflect.  Then it just snowballed from there and these last few episodes have been pretty boring.  How many dinners has it been now where multiple housewives have attacked Denise?  I truly have lost count.  The women have given production so little in the way of entertaining content that we are all stuck watching the same thing over and over and over again.  What has Dorit done this season?  Teddi has been nonexistent besides her retreat and being Kyle's attack dog.  Erika had the women over to her house once and has been in the background ever since.  She also has not brought the fashion this year.  Rinna has been the shit-stirrer extrordinaire all season and has done barely anything else.  All they have is attacking Denise.  

[VedaPierce]

So this whole thing with Brandi breaking girl code and spilling secrets just never made sense to me. I don’t believe the cheater’s guilt excuse that Brandi concocted for one minute. So just now, I’m listening to Heather McDonald’s Juicy Scoop podcast and her theory is money related. Apparently before COVID hit, Brandi, Kim and Denise we’re set to do a live show called “Blonde and Blonder”, where they were to be onstage and take questions from the audience. Then Denise pulled out. Brandi was so upset because obviously Denise would be the main draw. This could’ve made a lot of money and kept Brandi in Jack Daniels and tampons for life. Makes total sense to me as to why now Brandi’s gonna be that bitch. She’s bitter and angry and it’s a tiny bit understandable. If she was upfront. It wouldn’t make me hate her any less, but I could understand the motivation better. 

Edited August 13, 2020 by VedaPierce

[VedaPierce]

12 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Is Teddy a singer or musician? I could get why riding her daddy’s coat tails might make sense if she did that kind of thing, but a personal coach....? What sense does that make? Do the people who are her clients even know who her father is?

It definitely opened doors for her. She wouldn’t be on this show without her pedigree. And she gets suckers, I mean clients for her business through the show. 

Edited August 13, 2020 by VedaPierce

[OdinO.]

11 hours ago, Legalbeagle421 said:

I do too! You are not alone. 

Me too. She seems really normal.

[TV Diva Queen]

I felt like I was watching Young and Restless when Rinna and Denise were alone talking and was waiting to hear Nadia's Theme to start playing and for Eileen to pop in.  It was so fake!  

Also, Erika's story about having sex in a hospital was weird.  The way she said "I had a private room honey" implied it was because she was rich, but when in fact, it was probably because no one was in the bed next to her. why she frontin' like that when we know she comes from humble beginnings?  

 

[Ms Blue Jay]

8 hours ago, Aim123 said:

Unfortunately, I knew exactly what she was talking about 😂

I guess it's like the movie "The Hangover".