S10.E14: That's Not Amore

[jewel21]

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While a Vespa ride reminds Kyle and Dorit just how much fun they can have together, Denise calls out Lisa for betraying their friendship; a tearful Lisa joins Denise, Garcelle and Sutton to find redemption at the Vatican.

Airdate: 08/12/2020

[Straycat80]

Oh here goes Rinna with the ‘own it’ shit again. I’m so sick of this Brandi said storyline. Ugh! 

[Lady Lucy]

I hate Rinna and Teddi. "I'd like to be proven wrong." Bullshit.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

I know people here hate Teddi but her approach seems to be the most sensible. I would also proceed with caution with Denise, given how weird and squirrely she's being.

All that being said, Rinna is so ridiculously aggro here. That is also weird to me. 

ETA: And this is where Denise loses me. "No, I didn't say that and I don't know why Teddi feels like I don't like her, even though I am now admitting I have said bad things about Teddi." Clearly Denise DOESN'T like Teddi and Teddi's not dumb, she's picked  up on Denise's dislike. 

EATA: Okay, I don't like Dorit but the poor woman was just trying to get some factual clarity there, Garcelle. 

Edited August 13, 2020 by eleanorofaquitaine

[SunnyBeBe]

Well if they want to look at a proven record, then by all means let’s look at Brandi’s...she has a 100% record of being an unstable drunk, who has a record of multiple lawsuits. They crack me up. Thank goodness for Garcelle.   

[whydoievencare]

To summarize how these bitches are going after Denise at the dinner - it's akin to the question "When did you stop beating your wife?"    There will never be an answer that suits them that doesn't mean Denise is at fault (though I'm unsure what the actual transgression is).  Kyle, Rinna and Teddi are clearly in the camp that is choosing to back Brandi's stories.  And they are (Rinna especially) using the excuse that she isn't being honest and open and owning it. All the things Rinna is accusing Denise of, Rinna is the master of herself.  She's such a cunt.

Edited August 13, 2020 by whydoievencare

[TexasGal]

5 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

 

ETA: And this is where Denise loses me. "No, I didn't say that and I don't know why Teddi feels like I don't like her, even though I am now admitting I have said bad things about Teddi." Clearly Denise DOESN'T like Teddi and Teddi's not dumb, she's picked  up on Denise's dislike. 

 

Also - Brandi said Erika was cold and I agreed with her.  I agreed with everything she said.  I said worse things about Teddi than what Brandi says I said.  WTF?  And then to sit there and act like she has no clue how the rumors got started...shady.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

Just now, TexasGal said:

Also - Brandi said Erika was cold and I agreed with her.  I agreed with everything she said.  I said worse things about Teddi than what Brandi says I said.  WTF?  And then to sit there and act like she has no clue how the rumors got started...shady.

Right? Clearly Teddi has every reason to be confused about your ever-changing story, Denise. 

[Straycat80]

I have to agree with Kyle in one thing, when Rinna wants everyone to be honest, she gets defensive when people get honest with her, RE: Dancing half nude on SM and her daughters eating disorder. 
 

Going to church is not going to make these women better people either. 

Edited August 13, 2020 by Straycat80

[eleanorofaquitaine]

I'm with Denise about not really understanding Rinna's role in all of this.  Rinna really has stirred the pot in this whole situation, and while I still think Denise is being shady about whatever her relationship is with Brandi, it almost feels like Rinna has some latent anger towards Denise.

 

[TexasGal]

You guys, 2 soap opera actresses emoting over breakfast and then deciding to go to church.  I can’t.  CANNOT.  Ridiculous.

[The Ringo Kidd]

I wish that Denise would just Teddy in the face.

[Lady Lucy]

Now they're going to church?  Kill me.

[LibertarianSlut]

I don’t blame Teddi for being confused this time around.  Denise lied, contradicted herself, Dorit had to start telling Denise’s story, thus Teddi sought clarity.  I know Teddi’s annoying, and I know she has a track record for being “confused” about petty things as an attempt to harp on them, but as soon as Denise lied, it put Teddi in the right.  This is what’s so annoying about Denise’s reaction.  It makes me side with Teddi.  

It’s so interesting that now Denise is saying that Brandi said that Erika was cold and Denise agreed.  That’s what she’s saying now.  The night before, Denise looked completely baffled and acted like she had no idea how the message about Teddi could have been conveyed, because she doesn’t talk to Denise.  There are bad liars, there are horrible liars, and then there’s Denise.  

Lisa doesn’t have an ounce of compassion.  Every single thing she does is for the camera.  I’m not sure why Denise was talking to her like there’s a heart and soul in there, instead of an anorexic hamster running on a wheel, trying to get its 10,000 steps in.  

[whydoievencare]

Rinna clearly doesn't know the meaning of love if she's telling Denise that she invited her to Rome because she loves her.  That's not how anyone behaves with a loved one.  She's a nasty woman who doesn't own any of her shit.  She clearly has an axe to grind with her long time "friend".  I'm sure all the Rinna tears are a way to deflect Denise being upset with her - she'll be back to her original agenda in about two minutes.  What a phoney.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

Well, the good news for them is that the Church is much more forgiving under Pope Francis' leadership than it was previously. They can all Confess their sins, say five rosaries, and be on their way. 

[nexxie]

Teddi is smart to be cautious around this group - especially after falling for the LVP manipulation. “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”

[gatopretoNYC]

I just cannot get over this hideous white lace atrocity that is wearing Sutton. 

[Bronzedog]

Lisa was acting her ass off in that scene with Denise.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

Of all of the people on these shows, Kyle is the one who looks like she has the most genuine fun on these trips. 

[FlyingEgret]

You could see the moment Rinna knew she had "lost" the confrontation/ conversation with Denise and decided to bring on the tears and the woe-is-me angle.  Here's predicting she bursts into flames when she walks through the doors of the Vatican...

Edited August 13, 2020 by FlyingEgret

[RealHousewife]

Ugh I'm ashamed I used to like her and I know this isn't a revelation to most of you all, but Rinna is such a bitch. 

[njbchlover]

8 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

I'm with Denise about not really understanding Rinna's role in all of this.  Rinna really has stirred the pot in this whole situation, and while I still think Denise is being shady about whatever her relationship is with Brandi, it almost feels like Rinna has some latent anger towards Denise.

 

More like latent jealousy....

[eleanorofaquitaine]

Two Catholics, an Episcopalian, and a Presbyterian walks into the Vatican... 

[JD5166]

Who among us hasn’t lied their ass of about talking shit about someone?! I don’t even care what she said or did I just hate all these harpies sooooooo much, especially for breaking life into the skank beast that is Brandi Glanville. 

[VedaPierce]

There is something really wrong with Rinna. She’s not tight in the head. 

[eleanorofaquitaine]

3 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

More like latent jealousy....

Nah, I don't see it. Everyone keeps talking about how all of these ladies must be so jealous of Denise but I don't see why. She's got a crazy ex-husband and an asshole of a current husband. Sure, she wrangled a big pay day for Bravo, but other than that? There isn't much to be jealous of IMO. That being said, I do think Rinna has some unresolved anger towards Denise - maybe it's because of that pay day, maybe Rinna feels like Denise should have paid more dues or something, maybe it's because of something that happened two decades ago. But it's there and she should deal with it. 

[nexxie]

7 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

Lisa was acting her ass off in that scene with Denise.

Yeah - the narcissist caught suddenly becomes poor pitiful pile of tears.

[whydoievencare]

3 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

But it's there and she should deal with it

I think you mean, "but it's there and she should OWN IT!" 

Edited August 13, 2020 by whydoievencare

[eleanorofaquitaine]

So clearly Rinna bailed on Mass at the Vatican. 

Ugh, I hate it when I agree with Dorit, but she's right that maybe ANOTHER dinner of the Denise/Brandi go around isn't worth it for any of them. 

Edited August 13, 2020 by eleanorofaquitaine

[whydoievencare]

1 minute ago, nexxie said:

Yeah - the narcissist caught suddenly becomes poor pitiful pile of tears.

What do you think is harder?   The pile of tears, or the single tear that rolled down her cheek when Kim returned the baby gift at the reunion?

[Wicked]

I want some pasta and I want it now

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

Oh . My. God. Patsy & Edina ride in the bitch seat in Vespas. During the helmet scene w the two other ladies (who look simple and chic) they look like they are in costumes. What a couple of loons. More Americans looking loud and ostentatious and Klassless across the pond. Good lord. 

Rinna and Sutton have some skinny ass legs in those Wellies. I have never seen floppy calf Hunter wellies on anyone who wasn't anorexic . JS.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

Sutton's unabashed elitism is not cute. 

[SunnyBeBe]

Nay...no sympathy for Teddy at this point. Remind me why she detest  Denise and trust Brandi.  

[Ms Blue Jay]

God, Denise is so beautiful.

[SunnyBeBe]

Is Denise drunk in her TH?  Lol

[Legalbeagle421]

What is up with Denise in her confessional? Someone broke out the good stuff during quarantine. Yikes!

[RealHousewife]

Rinna loves Denise the way she loves Kim Richards.

[Straycat80]

If these women want to be better People and good friends to Denise they should just shut their traps, mind their own business, and Drop the nosey questions about what dumbass Brandi did or didn’t say. 

Edited August 13, 2020 by Straycat80

[pieinmyeye]

1 minute ago, Straycat80 said:

If these women want to be better People and good friends to Denise they should just shut their traps, mind there own business, and Drop the nosey questions about what dumbass Brandi did or didn’t say. 

Preach!!!

[gatopretoNYC]

Yeah! Go Denise! Tell those bitches off!

 

Wait - wtf Garcelle?

Edited August 13, 2020 by gatopretoNYC

[SunnyBeBe]

Is Teddy a singer or musician? I could get why riding her daddy’s coat tails might make sense if she did that kind of thing, but a personal coach....? What sense does that make? Do the people who are her clients even know who her father is?

[JD5166]

Oh TEDDI, you all already look bad and you look Ike an asshole in Kyle's hat.

[Pop Tart]

Lisa is no great friend for sure but I agree with her that Denise was making up the “Brandi said” stuff as she went. Didn’t believe a word she claimed that Brandi had said about them. The only honest thing she said was what she admitted she’d said about Erika and Teddi.

Teddi is right. Denise claims to be done so she can step away but then comes back with a rehearsed speech.

The other thing I can’t with Denise is how she just can’t believe how they are all about drama. That is what this show is. And then she dramatically leaves.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

Well, Denise is still living in delusional-world if she thinks that Brandi's rumor didn't need to be "brought up" because the reality is it was going to be brought up.  But she's also not wrong that there has been multiple nights of pile-ons. 

But also, Denise's speech is still all about how she wants to control their narrative, and that's why I will never warm up to her. Even if I also still think Brandi is lying (but now I also think that Denise is lying). 

[SunnyBeBe]

So, wasn’t that LR in her TH about how they all looked like a-holes last season against LVP and here they are again? What was her point? They even showed a news headline about it. Is she proud of it?

[whydoievencare]

Yes, I'm sure they don't want Denise to go - after all, who will be their punching bag when that happens?  And this is just like last year with Vanderpump - Denise says that what she's being accused of didn't happen (the Brandi shit and that she was mom-shaming them) and they are saying.....that it did?  Until Denise capitulates, they will continue to harass her (just like they did with Vanderpump). It seems that the accused will never be able be able to prove their innocence.  

Edited August 13, 2020 by whydoievencare

[nexxie]

imo Kyle shouldn’t have agreed to having Kim and Brandi over for that creepy scoop - even though producers wanted it.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

Producer intervention. I have a feeling the producers were sick of her walking out all of the time.