2020 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp

[Opine]

13 hours ago, NC-CFD09 said:

Anyone else think Rachel W was trying to make Tori look terrible about that Bret Kavanaugh question? Like couldn’t she have just not interjected..? Or said anything other than the sassy thing she said? 

No, I don't.  I think she was doing what she had been taught to do.  Cover for her peer and give the right answer.

[MC123]

11 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

Episode 7 board 

Thank you I have just updated it. New one below: 

[vivianspoetry]

On 1/5/2021 at 10:57 AM, lemonbus230 said:

Interested to see if they edit out where Judy called Lily ugly tonight and told Lily that she throws away all her gameday photos. Judy is not the angel she pretends to portray.

Whoa! This is the first I’ve heard of this. Has Judy ever looked at her daughter? If she felt the need to toss Lily’s gameday photos, she must’ve had to burn Cassie’s photos. I don’t care about being one of the mean people on the internet in this instance. I’m pretty neutral toward K&J, but that was way, way out of line. 

[madmax84]

I wonder why Brennan, Hannah, Kat, Lily and Meredith were not even top 36 before auditions. They just decided on some information that these girls weren't going to be good this year?

Edited January 6, 2021 by madmax84

[Pau84]

1 hour ago, kalibean said:

Of all the random things for CMT to cut, I thought this footage of Taylor’s one day audition was interesting! Probably would have made the show if it was more than one vet doing it. Brennan and Hannah were trying to be team players, I suppose, I suppose, but I wonder if their outcome would have been different if they had gone that route. Tho as a student, Hannah might not be have been able to justify to TPTB? Not sure what hoops they had to jump through. 

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CJtMQOvrwmn/?igshid=1swwe72vxca78

 

All I can say is:

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others

 

[souR77]

1 hour ago, kalibean said:

Of all the random things for CMT to cut, I thought this footage of Taylor’s one day audition was interesting! Probably would have made the show if it was more than one vet doing it. Brennan and Hannah were trying to be team players, I suppose, I suppose, but I wonder if their outcome would have been different if they had gone that route. Tho as a student, Hannah might not be have been able to justify to TPTB? Not sure what hoops they had to jump through. 

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CJtMQOvrwmn/?igshid=1swwe72vxca78

 

I'm not sure either maybe they needed a reasonable excuse to do the one day audition? I would like to know too. Not sure what Brennen does or what Hannah does outside of studying for school. 

[Manc.UK.DCCfan]

I think Lily is perhaps taking a lead out of Hannah’s book, I commented on a DCC MTT post...Lily’s liked it. I’d take Lily over Marissa any day, I know Marissa is a better trained dancer but I really think she’s an ambassador risk 

[HitItHarder..BAM]

@MegzClarkie I just want to say your spreadsheet is amazing!! Tysm for making it😁

Edited January 6, 2021 by HitItHarder..BAM
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[WoofDCC]

It looks like they're cutting Hannah by Zoom.... seriously??!! 

She's not on the field in next week's preview.... and Claire is in her spot on the kickline (from what I can tell.)

Justice for Hannah.

[Manc.UK.DCCfan]

4 minutes ago, WoofDCC said:

It looks like they're cutting Hannah by Zoom.... seriously??!! 

She's not on the field in next week's preview.... and Claire is in her spot on the kickline (from what I can tell.)

Justice for Hannah.

Her, Lily & Brennan were all cut via zoom I believe? 

[KoKo]

On 12/29/2020 at 10:26 PM, ClassicPegg said:

I'm happy to see that Melissa still has her head firmly planted up Victorrhea's ass...  🙄

Ugh, the minute she said that, my eyes rolled so hard, they almost stuck in the back of my head!!     If I had been a rookie this season, it would NOT be Victoria who would intimidate me having to dance beside or around her....... shut up Melissa. 

You couldn't be MORE correct ClassicPegg!! 

[dccfan204]

I’m so confused. I just watched the preview for next week. Was that Caroline in the call-back room?!?!

[Holly85]

1 minute ago, dccfan204 said:

I’m so confused. I just watched the preview for next week. Was that Caroline in the call-back room?!?!

Yes Caroline went into the callback room last night 

[dccfan204]

Just now, Holly85 said:

Yes Caroline went into the callback room last night 

I’m shocked! She’s one of the strongest though? And a second leader?

[Holly85]

Just now, dccfan204 said:

I’m shocked! She’s one of the strongest though? And a second leader?

She was there to gauge the other dancers 

[MC123]

16 minutes ago, HitItHarder..BAM said:

@MegzClarkie I just want to say your spreadsheet is amazing!! Tysm for making it😁

@HitItHarder..BAM Thank you! Will update and post again if we see anymore! 

[dccfan204]

3 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

She was there to gauge the other dancers 

Oh oops! That makes sense 🙈 Thanks for clarifying

Edited January 6, 2021 by dccfan204

[Tinydancerxo28]

5 hours ago, realityjunkie771 said:

There are a lot of things I don’t like about this take, but I’ll stick with this: this goes beyond a child pouting because they didn’t get something they wanted. This is a woman who had something she was clearly very qualified for taken away because she could not perform perfectly at the time due to her illness. This take not only infantilizes Hannah, infantilizes women for having feelings at all, but punishes her for speaking about about how reality tv commodifies the pain and suffering of women. The hypocrisy displayed by the team behind MTT shows how openness about mental health, especially by women, is only valued when it gives a company altruism brownie points -- that's the whole idea behind My Cause My Boots. When women actually begin to show the effects of their illness, they are punished, and yet their presence in the organization in the first place is lauded as some sort of gold star. God forbid Hannah actually try to make this fact clear, knowing that people will either not understand or willfully miss the point and attack her. 

And trust me, I understand how the dance industry works. I get how television and performance work. But using “this is the way it is” as an excuse is not good enough. Sure, this is the way it is. Is it right? Is it just? Do we continue to demand perfection and still capitalize on the idea of tearing women down? This season of MTT has exploited Hannah's illness for #ratings and yet she was released from the team when her illness manifested. If we can’t step back and be critical of how the industry works, we will continue to see the same exploitation. But that’s okay because it’s just the way it is, right?

Let's stop punishing women for standing up for themselves, please.

Absolutely agree with all of this! They’ve known Hannah for two seasons now and know what she’s capable of. I think some leniency could be given when they know she’s a talented vet, has struggled with mental health issues but still showed up to training camp. IMO, most of the girls seem pick to causes that don’t carry a stigma. Kelli saying she liked her answer during media day seemed disingenuous. If Hannah ever writes a tell-all, I’d be happy to buy it.

[HitItHarder..BAM]

1 hour ago, Tinydancerxo28 said:

If Hannah ever writes a tell-all, I’d be happy to buy it.

Omg yes!! We all know grad school can be pretty expensive and maybe book sales could help defray some of that cost lol

[MrsEVH]

2 hours ago, Manc.UK.DCCfan said:

Her, Lily & Brennan were all cut via zoom I believe? 

What about Tori?

[5678Pixie]

17 minutes ago, MrsEVH said:

What about Tori?

Tori was cut by zoom.  Judy last night told Kelli she really liked Tori but as usual Judy's opinion never counts, that is why she never speaks.  It is a waste of her energy.  

I have never thought Brennan was pretty but she looked beautiful when she was in the office, love her new hair extensions.  She is just as good of a dancer as Cici plus she will never have the weight problems Cici has so why was she called in?  

What was Lisa wearing and why would she wear that?  She is so weird.  

Edited January 6, 2021 by 5678Pixie

[BunnyHop96]

8 hours ago, ByTor said:

No need to borrow, I have had extras in case such a situation arose 😂

Personally I think those abs look terrible on a woman. Clearly people disagree; my opinion doesn't make it so. Judy says Lily is "ugly." Clearly people disagree; her opinion doesn't make it so.  And while Judy may have found her unattractive...ugly?? Come on.

When ever I’m going through the DCC’s instas, Lily’s is the ONLY one that never fails to make me smile. Her mood even via pictures is just infectious and while she may not be “DCC sexy” she’s got the cute girl next door look down pat and clearly seems more relatable than many of the other DCCs. They seriously did her, along with the other girls, dirty.

[MeeMee2]

16 hours ago, KG150 said:

👀👀👀

Hannah is such a Queen. Lover her so much! 😋 

[bunny]

Honestly the DCC organization is psychotic 😂 I will never forget how Kelli got some preacher in to training camp right after poor Shaina lost a bunch of her friends in an accident, and there was this big thing where everyone was sharing stories of loss and grief and whatnot, which like, okay, fine. BUT Shaina didn’t say anything during it, completely understandably, and then went up to Kelli afterwards to explain that her grief was too new to participate but thank you for doing it etc etc. 

And maybe she really did feel that way, I dunno, but I have just never gotten over the fact that she felt like she had to go up to Kelli and explain herself when she didn’t owe an explanation to ANYONE nor was she obligated to thank Kelli at all. That scene has always read so weird to me, with poor Shaina looking like she’s under so much pressure and Kelli looking at her in this super cold, blank way. I’m sure the DCC org thought it made them look great and caring, but the way that it was shown totally jives with how toxic I picture the culture of the DCC org to be.

Anyway, Hannah is amazing as always!

[PicnicLife77]

What are everyone's hypotheses as to why Tori gets cut? I'm starting to see it with Ashlinn, but they've given no indications with Tori whatsoever. 

[HitItHarder..BAM]

36 minutes ago, abracadabra said:

What are everyone's hypotheses as to why Tori gets cut? I'm starting to see it with Ashlinn, but they've given no indications with Tori whatsoever. 

I feel like I can see the producers laying the foundation for the cut. In the last episode Kelly commented on her poor fan kick and her awkward answer to the Brett Kavanaugh question. 

Also, I don't remember who but I believe some insiders said Tori's SG solo was pretty bad.

I feel like if she fixes those 3 things next year she's a lock for the team. And from the dance classes she posts on Instagram, maybe even show group? I'm not a dancer but I enjoy watching her dance

[vanillagum]

1 hour ago, bunny said:

Honestly the DCC organization is psychotic 😂 I will never forget how Kelli got some preacher in to training camp right after poor Shaina lost a bunch of her friends in an accident, and there was this big thing where everyone was sharing stories of loss and grief and whatnot, which like, okay, fine. BUT Shaina didn’t say anything during it, completely understandably, and then went up to Kelli afterwards to explain that her grief was too new to participate but thank you for doing it etc etc. 

And maybe she really did feel that way, I dunno, but I have just never gotten over the fact that she felt like she had to go up to Kelli and explain herself when she didn’t owe an explanation to ANYONE nor was she obligated to thank Kelli at all. That scene has always read so weird to me, with poor Shaina looking like she’s under so much pressure and Kelli looking at her in this super cold, blank way. I’m sure the DCC org thought it made them look great and caring, but the way that it was shown totally jives with how toxic I picture the culture of the DCC org to be.

Anyway, Hannah is amazing as always!

that was so freaking bizarre

[NC-CFD09]

9 hours ago, ByTor said:

No need to borrow, I have had extras in case such a situation arose 😂

Personally I think those abs look terrible on a woman. Clearly people disagree; my opinion doesn't make it so. Judy says Lily is "ugly." Clearly people disagree; her opinion doesn't make it so.  And while Judy may have found her unattractive...ugly?? Come on.

Lily is adorable. Idk how Judy could dislike her big, bright smile. 

[Jessinvirginia]

6 hours ago, Manc.UK.DCCfan said:

Can I please just say, I’m sorry for your loss of your grandfather, thank you for being honest and speaking out, I’m glad you’re getting help (I really don’t mean that in any nasty way at all) and that I hope you’re okay 💙
 

also as someone who has suffered mental health issues myself, I’m so peeved at how they’re handling Hannah’s cuts, I’m not sure I can watch the latest episode.

although tbf I probably will but I know I’ll fevers wound up if I do and I’m glad team mates have stuck up for her. 

Thank you. Sincerely. 🥰❤️

[PicnicLife77]

2 hours ago, HitItHarder..BAM said:

I feel like I can see the producers laying the foundation for the cut. In the last episode Kelly commented on her poor fan kick and her awkward answer to the Brett Kavanaugh question. 

Also, I don't remember who but I believe some insiders said Tori's SG solo was pretty bad.

I feel like if she fixes those 3 things next year she's a lock for the team. And from the dance classes she posts on Instagram, maybe even show group? I'm not a dancer but I enjoy watching her dance

Oh yes, true. I had forgotten those things. She's not my favorite, but I still feel like they should've noticed fan kicks sooner (maybe even before taking her in). And at least she knew who BK was. How likely are they really to be asked something like that on the sidelines?!

I'm still hoping to see more Dani, but I doubt it. 

[FutureCPA18]

Anyone else think there could be a mass exodus next year? CMT has done so many girls dirty and their teammates (or former teammates) seem to be sticking up for each other. Seems like the girls are starting to see what's happening and realize they don't like it. 

Side note - I was surprised Kelly and Judy didn't seem to know Brennan had Covid-19. I thought they would know from social media or something.

Also lol at Kelly saying she's not panicking in the previous for next episode. That was pretty panicked to me. 

[ClassicPegg]

2 hours ago, abracadabra said:

Oh yes, true. I had forgotten those things. She's not my favorite, but I still feel like they should've noticed fan kicks sooner (maybe even before taking her in). And at least she knew who BK was. How likely are they really to be asked something like that on the sidelines?!

I'm still hoping to see more Dani, but I doubt it. 

And, how likely are they going to be asked "how the internet works" on the sidelines?!! 

Some of their questions are so ridiculous!

[DCCFan2021]

35 minutes ago, ClassicPegg said:

And, how likely are they going to be asked "how the internet works" on the sidelines?!! 

Some of their questions are so ridiculous!

And they liked her answer of "a bunch of wires and complicated things." Really?

[Busy]

Who are the 4 group leaders and the 2nds?

[GonnahearmeRoar]

I bet Lisa would’ve known the answer to how the internet works.  Lisa seems the type to be in the know of how most things work.  Should’ve saved the harder questions for the more intelligent women. 

Kat is so entertaining! I love her facials.  She brightens the room for sure. 

[ClassicPegg]

3 minutes ago, Busy said:

Who are the 4 group leaders and the 2nds?

 

[GonnahearmeRoar]

Most people don’t know how to answer that question. Just strange to throw an IT question out there.  I agree that the questions are ridiculous! 

Edited January 7, 2021 by GonnahearmeRoar

[Tuxcat]

4 minutes ago, ClassicPegg said:

 

Why didn't Rachel - 4th year yet/SG didn't get a 2nd leader position? Why did they choose four third year vets over her? I can understand picking them over Savannah.

And general question, in past years we've seen group leaders give their opinions on who should make the squad. I assumed it was for the TV show drama but does this happen in real life?

Edited January 7, 2021 by Tuxcat

[ClassicPegg]

4 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

Why didn't Rachel - 4th year yet/SG didn't get a 2nd leader position? Why did they choose four third year vets over her? I can understand picking them over Savannah.

And general question, in past years we've seen group leaders give their opinions on who should make the squad. I assumed it was for the TV show drama but does this happen in real life?

Not always, but a lot of the times, the 2nd group leaders come from the 3rd year class.  IMO, they are preparing for the next year.  Instead of picking a 4th yr who might retire at the end of the year, start "training" the 3rd yrs to be leaders... 

[Holly85]

Just now, ClassicPegg said:

Not always, but a lot of the times, the 2nd group leaders come from the 3rd year class.  IMO, they are preparing for the next year.  Instead of picking a 4th yr who might retire at the end of the year, start "training" the 3rd yrs to be leaders... 

That’s how I saw It to 

[onthebubble]

Why cut Taylor’s one day audition piece? It was more interesting then watching them count each other standing in a hallway scared of thunder 😬

[Tuxcat]

10 minutes ago, ClassicPegg said:

Not always, but a lot of the times, the 2nd group leaders come from the 3rd year class.  IMO, they are preparing for the next year.  Instead of picking a 4th yr who might retire at the end of the year, start "training" the 3rd yrs to be leaders... 

Ahh that makes sense, thanks!

[scorpio1031]

1 hour ago, onthebubble said:

Why cut Taylor’s one day audition piece? It was more interesting then watching them count each other standing in a hallway scared of thunder 😬

So they could use the tagline “we’ve been Thunderstruck” over and over🙄

[Manc.UK.DCCfan]

1 hour ago, scorpio1031 said:

So they could use the tagline “we’ve been Thunderstruck” over and over🙄

I think the show isn’t allowed to, have you ever noticed they never say thunderstruck? They just say our signature game routine and the music is never played on the show? It’s always played alongside other music, mustn’t have the rights or have to pay something for even mentioning it 

[Trixi]

24 minutes ago, Manc.UK.DCCfan said:

I think the show isn’t allowed to, have you ever noticed they never say thunderstruck? They just say our signature game routine and the music is never played on the show? It’s always played alongside other music, mustn’t have the rights or have to pay something for even mentioning it 

I thought Kelli said it when they were in the basement during the storm🤷🏼‍♀️

[Manc.UK.DCCfan]

20 minutes ago, Trixi said:

I thought Kelli said it when they were in the basement during the storm🤷🏼‍♀️

I’m not sure I’m only just watching the episode and Brennan has just been called into the office, there’s a delay on when I can watch the show here 

[DCC-UK]

12 hours ago, bunny said:

Honestly the DCC organization is psychotic 😂 I will never forget how Kelli got some preacher in to training camp right after poor Shaina lost a bunch of her friends in an accident, and there was this big thing where everyone was sharing stories of loss and grief and whatnot, which like, okay, fine. BUT Shaina didn’t say anything during it, completely understandably, and then went up to Kelli afterwards to explain that her grief was too new to participate but thank you for doing it etc etc. 

And maybe she really did feel that way, I dunno, but I have just never gotten over the fact that she felt like she had to go up to Kelli and explain herself when she didn’t owe an explanation to ANYONE nor was she obligated to thank Kelli at all. That scene has always read so weird to me, with poor Shaina looking like she’s under so much pressure and Kelli looking at her in this super cold, blank way. I’m sure the DCC org thought it made them look great and caring, but the way that it was shown totally jives with how toxic I picture the culture of the DCC org to be.

Anyway, Hannah is amazing as always!

I know this scene was meant to be uplifting but it made me feel uncomfortable. It felt like TPTB were captialising on Shaina's grief and tried to force her to open up. Her friends had literally just died, not months/years ago. Her grief was so raw and likely the first time she'd ever had to deal with death so closely. 

They keep saying they want their cheerleaders to be individual but they must be extorverted, talkative and happy all the time. I'm glad Shaina spoke out when she got cut but I always felt Kelli was rude to her. The same with Hannah's first office visit this season. Just because you've gone through something similar doesn't mean you know how someone else is feeling. Some people are just a bit more introverted, doesn't mean they can't be good ambassadors or performers! 

[DCC-UK]

5 hours ago, ClassicPegg said:

 

I'm really surprised Daphne didn't get a 2GL spot over Rachel W, considering her UCLA captaincy. 

[tdp1117]

19 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

 I fully believe that as s show group veteran she didn't just suddenly become 'not good enough.' They aired only a few "not looking herself moments" - all were with the one funky Evan Miller piece. Slow down those moments and you notice so many of the girls actually messing it up. They had just learned that dance. A few times zoomed in - it was Kat messing up next to her but the show said it was Hannah. 

Was she stressed? yes. Did her mental health get taxed? Of course! Can a global pandemic be devastating for someone with anxiety and depression? YES! But her stress was born from compassion and empathy for others safety as well. And her "disinterested" stance was likely from her 'interest' in safety. She was following protocols while others were completely abandoning them.

Even with all of this - SHE STILL DID Her JOB

She was given three show group stickers so she clearly wasn't awful. In every "board" that's been shown except the very first she has been ABOVE the top 36 line. 

Are you telling me her cut came down to a dance off in which Hannah, a three year vet,  a show group vet  (who appeared to be strong in this episode at least) - justifies this cut? A cut that occurred in one short week - during a global pandemic - during the Texas surge - in unsafe conditions for the purposes of making a TV show? 

No, because even if she was less than herself - even if that is true - you give the benefit of the doubt here to the vets. Always. They've proven themselves able to perform! The rookies still on the line (which should include Sydney in my opinion) still need "teaching" (according to Judy), still need practice, still need time - They can come back next year. They aren't as invested in this process. The benefit of the doubt should go to the vets.  

But that didn't happen because the FIX is in! They knew well before camp started who they'd cut.  

The show is USING the angle "she's mentally weak" -- which of course IS NOT THE CASE and a disservice to women who suffer, and to those who persevere. Hannah said she's proof that with the right tools, resiliency is possible. 

I might agree with you about giving a vet the benefit of the doubt except for the fact that this year training camp was their try out.  Vets with the DCC must try out every year, and vets have been cut.  This year there were no try-outs, and all vets were invited to TC.  It was clear that they would be evaluated in TC and cut if need be.  

People keep saying COVID had her stressed out, and TC was not safe.  Well then why was she even there?  If you have that much anxiety about COVID, stay home.  Ask for a chance to come back next year at solos because your anxiety can't take it.  You don't show up and then complain about it.  

Honestly they owe her nothing.  Unless the policy is a vet has a spot until she leaves once it's earned, then cutting a vet is not out of line.  It's not like she was the only vet cut.  It's just my opinion, but I'm certainly entitled to it.  

[DCC-UK]

46 minutes ago, tdp1117 said:

I might agree with you about giving a vet the benefit of the doubt except for the fact that this year training camp was their try out.  Vets with the DCC must try out every year, and vets have been cut.  This year there were no try-outs, and all vets were invited to TC.  It was clear that they would be evaluated in TC and cut if need be.  

People keep saying COVID had her stressed out, and TC was not safe.  Well then why was she even there?  If you have that much anxiety about COVID, stay home.  Ask for a chance to come back next year at solos because your anxiety can't take it.  You don't show up and then complain about it.  

Honestly they owe her nothing.  Unless the policy is a vet has a spot until she leaves once it's earned, then cutting a vet is not out of line.  It's not like she was the only vet cut.  It's just my opinion, but I'm certainly entitled to it.  

It's not necessarily about who was cut (Hannah has mixed opinions on here), it's the matter of how and why she was cut, and how they've made up a story to cover their backs.

There are two main issues here. Firstly, TC really shouldn't have taken place in any capacity this year. People should only be leaving home if it is necessary. If Covid isn't stressing you out, then you must be extremely privileged. (I don't mean you in particular, I mean in general). The problem is that people (especially the US) aren't taking it seriously enough (large gatherings still taking place, no masks in sight). In the UK, we're on lockdown 3, numbers are still rising. Half the population are adhering to the rules, the other half are simply doing what they want especially over Christmas/New Year.

Secondly, Hannah and the vets/TCCs were told that the bubble was secure, which probably eased her anxiety initally. She loves being on the team and wanted to continue so under the impression that all precautions were being taken. She's said she found escapism in dancing in her basement but it wasn't quite the same. On turning up to the 'bubble', it was clear that it wasn't as secure as they had been told. She voiced her concerns and got blacklisted and then cut for that. They have a responsibility as an organisation to make sure that they were taking all Covid precautions. 

They know of her medical history as she's been vocal about her anxiety/depression on the show before. That doesn't mean she can't go anywhere or do anything. She has been a great ambassador and stellar performer for 2 years now yet now she's no longer capable? Kelli even said her heart doesn't seem in it and she's less engaging. Probably because she doesn't feel safe, which she shared her feelings about, and now TPTB have made up some story to make her seem disinterested. Having watched the episodes, her dancing doesn't seem as powerful as before but she's still head and shoulders above a lot of the women there.