S08.E20: Unfriended

[Haute Messe]

3 hours ago, Sun-Bun said:

Brittany is definitely the ultimate Kentucky basic bitch stereotype; amusingly enough, every time she’s onscreen and my husband happens to walk by the TV, he always asks without fail, “What’s that hayseed doing on there? She doesn’t fit in at all!” Like he *still* can’t believe she somehow got cast on this show despite being a smalltown thick hick—all the cheesy shit she wears, the god awful home decor, the dark spraytan and that trashy AF wedding castle venue didn’t help her cause.

I do love it that Brit’s finally being exposed onscreen for who she really is and is no longer able to play that selfless little Southern sweetheart card. She’s just as bitchy and manipulative as the rest of them. 

Speaking of bitchy, I cannot fathom how Katie still hasn’t figured out how to appropriately dress to suit her figure; she’s stuffed like sausage into that pink dress in her talking head. It’s very nice to see gals featured on this show who are above a size 4, but it’s sad when they attempt to dress like they wear a size 2.

I’m now beyond ambivalent over the Witches of WeHo drama; you play with dogs long enough, you’re gonna get fleas, Kristen. Just roll on and let Basic & Blob enjoy their own miserable company; go enjoy your new home, your new man and your little T-shirt empire.

Never thought I’d see the day that I’m over Basic & Bowtie, but I’m over Stassi, her ball-ridden fiancé, and her endless bougie attempts to act above the rest of this crew. Ditto LaLa the worthless cumguzzler and her Fred Flintstone fiancée; surely they have to realize they’re *only* valued by this sad bunch for comped dinners/PJ trips.

Justice for Scheana! I still don’t like her at all, but I don’t like to hear about a show deliberately trying to edit a cast member into someone they’re really not in real life either. Let’s see her real life triumphs shown just as much as her costars’; it’s not funny/clever to shade her anymore, show. 

The less I discuss the newbies, the better; what a bunch of pathetic thirst traps. Their dehydrated antics are so pointless. And yes, it’s creepy AF how they all look like each other. Typical Hollywood Basics.

I still like the Tom’s(I acknowledge that they’re simpering pussies, but at least they’ve made something of themselves), and I’m in shock that Amazing Ariana has grown on me. Even DJ James & Dimwit Raquel finally won me over(and I still snicker over him calling Brit “a hillbilly” in a fake southern accent at one reunion).

This was the lamest VR finale ever, btw. Hope you can join Vicki G in the “my show” weed garden, Jax. 

 

And it was the grand finale for me. I have no interest in watching another season of this with the current bunch and even moreso if they add that horrendous LV Scheana clone. One of her is more than enough. And the rest of the newbies all suck. I was a defender of LVP in the RHOBH takedown, but her overabundant presence on this show has completely changed my view of her. 

Jax is a very bitter and unhappy person. He might benefit from off screen therapy and rehab, and maybe some prescription meds if a diagnosis warrants it.

I don't know anything about the big bad edit Scheana apparently received, but will do some digging before I say anything else about her, but my feeling is that she has provided them with plenty of material to work with.

I am completely over those shrieking witches Katie and Stassi. I don't think we have been shown any justification for the beastly level of treatment Kristen has received from them.  

It has become tiresome to have nothing funny to snark about which is why this show is dead to me - after the reunion, of course.

[psychoticstate]

I think this was the worst VR season ever.  It was deadly dull.  The newbies suck.  I could not care less about them if I tried.    The only people I do care about -- James and Kristen -- basically had cameos for most of the season.  I'd rather watch James continue his journey with sobriety (go, James!) and Kristen work on her t-shirt empire and her new house than anything else.  

The show has become so far afield of what it started out being.  I really dislike or am indifferent to the "main players."    I'm probably done with the show altogether. 

[JenE4]

This should absolutely be the series finale. I’m saying this as someone who has always been a huge fan of this show—though that fanaticism has significantly waned this season barely above nil. Although I watched, I didn’t care enough to come post here much this year. The storylines/relationships have ALL wrapped up, and there’s really nowhere to go from here. That ending was really spot-on as a series finale. Jax is right that it’s his friendships that made this show popular. Not just HIM of course—but the relationships amongst the core group of Jax, Stassi, Sandoval, Kristin, Katie, Schwartz (even though he was a “friend of” for years), and Scheana. ANYONE else who joined later I still don’t really care about or consider them the stars of the show. I sure as hell wouldn’t have tuned in all these years if it was just Lisa and a random group of SURvers, like “the new cast” we got this year. Jax and “his friends” ARE the show! The friendships, the fights—and especially the cheating scandals, coverups, investigations, and confessions. The gang is far past that point in life, and I really don’t give a damn about whether Dana will choose Max or Brett—or “choose herself.” The original friend group did have that It Factor that made us tune in all these years to watch the drama of their friendships unfold. Sorry, Lisa, I’m not going to tune in to see you or whomever else you happen to dredge up amongst your various business ventures—despite you putting a bunch of contenders in a room and the two nobodies starting a fight out of nowhere to “prove” their dramatic abilities for the show. I admit to even tearing up a few times during this show. Okay, maybe being locked up for 2 months is getting to me. But it was enough of an “emotional closing” for me that I think it would be a huge mistake to continue on with this show. I got choked up with James really having seemingly “changed,” and Katie and Randall both acknowledging that and physically and emotionally embracing him. The sad endings to both the male and female “core three” friendships. The Toms expanding their business enterprise. Stassi and Lala joining the ranks of married homeowners. Scheana being her same old self whooping it up on someone’s shoulders. (Everyone else has grown but Scheana and Jax are still their same old selves.) And, the piece de resistance: Lisa’s dramatic speech to Jax while flashing to representative cast members while a “demented carousel version” of the theme song played underneath. That’s a perfect ending right there. The show WAS about the friendships. The friendships are over. That’s a wrap, folks.

[sandwoman]

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That’s a perfect ending right there. The show WAS about the friendships. The friendships are over. That’s a wrap, folks.

ITA. Also watching the after show videos on Bravo's website, Sandoval seemed just OVER Jax absolutely, completely, and I don't blame him one bit. The fire and fun of this show was that these were real genuine messy relationships. It's over. That part of their life is over. People outgrow messy friends. At this point, there's nothing but wash-and-repeat of the same conflicts: Jax is a narcissistic, roid-head who is insanely jealous of Sandoval for reasons he doesn't understand, Kristen is a toxic person that Stassi and Katie (not exactly non-toxic themselves) can't stand to listen to whine anymore. if not for the show, Jax and Kristen would have been long out of these people's lives. I feel like we all have friends from our 20s that we would Never spend time with now. They are those friends. Time to let it, and the show, go. 

[AnnieBananie]

Jax will ruin all his relationships, except with Brittany, who, bless her Southern little heart, will stay with him to the bitter end, because she thinks she can fix him. 

With regards to Scheana, this was published on Jezebel today, and I think it makes a number of good points. 

[MVFrostsMyPie]

4 hours ago, Ubiquitous said:

 but what the fuck was LaLa wearing?  

Which outfit are you referring to? All of them, right?

[tvfanatic13]

12 hours ago, FancyNancy said:

She was referring to Stassi as “Regina George” and it kind of fits lol.

Jax doesn’t have shit! They are so right in their assessments that Jax is spiraling because he likes to be the center of attention and he’s not anymore. Brit wants to garner respect for her husband, but doesn’t think he should respect anyone.

The only thing that would’ve made that scene with the Bitch(es)of Weho better was if Kristen had offered to buy them out. 
 

I really don’t want to wait 2 weeks for this virtual reunion. 

The reunion is not for 2 weeks? Bummer. I just can’t quit this show. 
I can’t believe that they aired that huge fourth wall break. But I am so glad they did. 
I feel bad for Kristen. I am guessing that she won’t be back next season. But damn that girl has some legggggssssss. 
 

[albarino]

9 hours ago, Sun-Bun said:

I do love it that Brit’s finally being exposed onscreen for who she really is and is no longer able to play that selfless little Southern sweetheart card. She’s just as bitchy and manipulative as the rest of them. 

Speaking of bitchy, I cannot fathom how Katie still hasn’t figured out how to appropriately dress to suit her figure; she’s stuffed like sausage into that pink dress in her talking head. It’s very nice to see gals featured on this show who are above a size 4, but it’s sad when they attempt to dress like they wear a size 2.

I’m now beyond ambivalent over the Witches of WeHo drama; you play with dogs long enough, you’re gonna get fleas, Kristen. Just roll on and let Basic & Blob enjoy their own miserable company; go enjoy your new home, your new man and your little T-shirt empire.

Never thought I’d see the day that I’m over Basic & Bowtie, but I’m over Stassi, her ball-ridden fiancé, and her endless bougie attempts to act above the rest of this crew. Ditto LaLa the worthless cumguzzler and her Fred Flintstone fiancée; surely they have to realize they’re *only* valued by this sad bunch for comped dinners/PJ trips.

^^^^^This.  Thank you.

[StardustMemories]

On 5/19/2020 at 10:27 PM, chewycandy said:

Raquel gushing over her boyfriend was the cutest. And James did look amazing at that moment—handsome and confident. Glad that his mom is sober as well. He was the best part of the season for me. 

I'm surprised yours is the only comment mentioning this.  I thought it was the most endearing part of the episode.   I have always found Raquel a bit vapid, but she seemed very genuine in her emotions and compliments to James.  And he did look great, to begin with, but even more so after she boosted his confidence.  If he can stay on the wagon, he is the only person on this show (aside from Lisa and Ken) who has a real career ahead of him after the show ends.

[ErikaAlyson]

I actually thought this was the best episode of the season lol. Jax really seems to hate Sandoval. Brittany was very protective of Jax in this episode. Danica seems to have behavioral mental problems lol,she’s always angry. Max really seems to have feelings for Dayna lol.

[Mazzy]

 

On 5/19/2020 at 10:02 PM, Thumper said:

Yeah, I thought the same thing about the toothbrush argument.  Ewwww, don’t put your toothbrush in a drawer!  It needs to air out.

I keep my toothbrush in a drawer and think it's weird and gross to leave your toothbrush just chillin' out with the poop air in your bathroom. That's disgusting. You are literally washing your mouth with your own poo!! Cover up the toothbrush and get it out of the open air of the bathroom. So gross!
 

On 5/19/2020 at 10:17 PM, Kiki777 said:

Lamest ending ever.  Are we supposed to be on pins and needles waiting to see next season if they’re friends again?

I have to agree. I didn't realize it even was the finale until reading the comments here.
 

On 5/19/2020 at 10:29 PM, ParadoxLost said:

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't ask Kristen to come back.  This season made it clear that if she gets cut out by Katie and Stassi, no one is going to really include her in anything.

Agreed. Kristin doesn't have a roll if not included in the friend group.

 

On 5/19/2020 at 10:35 PM, LibertarianSlut said:

Even though I really don’t like Dayna, I loved the way she finally confronted Max.  She said all the right things.  And, oh ok, Max, like we really believe you “hired” her! 

This is something I really wanted to address. I read every comment and no one mentioned the reality of that moment. I realize that because of this show nothing will likely happen addressing THIS incident, but Max just may, at some point in the future when he is no longer young and on TV, find himself learning a hard lesson about sexual harassment. He has thrown that "I hired you" line in Dayna's face a few times during PERSONAL conversations about their relationship that have zero to do with their working relationship. Max needs to learn to keep these things separate. Constantly bringing up his status as her superior during discussions about their previous sexual relationship comes off, to me, like he's basically telling her he can fire her whenever he wants because her actions bother him personally, not professionally. That's textbook sexual harassment!! He needs to get his shit together!

 

And Jax - Jax clearly has a drug problem. It might be a combo of coke and roids, or who knows what, but you aren't constantly sweaty unless you are high or coming down. I agree that Jax got married to pull attention and that he had no actual interest in being married. Jax has been looking for ways to remain relevant since the TomTom announcement, and he has ragged on that en devour every chance he possibly can. He even tried to get the Toms to turn on Lisa in the beginning. I also agree that he will knock Brittany up as his next effort - if he can still get it up by then.

 

Edited May 21, 2020 by Mazzy

[Kiki777]

As much as I can’t stand Katie, she looked super pretty in that scene at Lala’s (Rand’s) house.  Light makeup and her hair just simply blown out.  But if she can look that good, why does she keep messing it up with bad hairstyles and ill-fitting clothes?

I hope Kristin comes back, I don’t want the witches to ‘win’ in icing her out of the show completely.  She is still friendly with Scheana and Ariana I think.  And it would be nice to see James make an amends with her, he did treat her like crap.

God help me but I’ve really come to like Sandoval.  He is a hard worker and a good friend.  Same for James if he can stay sober.

[tvfanatic13]

I was at Bravocon and seem to recall that when the cast was asked who caused the most trouble over the season (or something of that nature) they unanimously said Tom S. Having watched the whole season I don’t see that at all. I would say Jax. Maybe I just misread the whole season 🤷‍♀️

[geauxaway]

Jax is the worst and for a minute there I thought he was going to get physical against Lisa.   Brittany is working overtime to try so smooth things over with everyone he is pissing off and it’s pathetic to watch.  Especially remember he’s my husband you need to be respectful of that.  Um, no.

What was on Rand’s head at the Tom Tom party?  Does he wear a hair piece?  The front and back did not match.  I’ve never noticed before but it was bad.  And he always looks so schlubby.  Black U neck shirt and black jeans.  Why?

Jax calling himself handicapped.  BYE BOY.  
 

Edited May 21, 2020 by geauxaway

[Mr. Miner]

20 hours ago, Sun-Bun said:

I still like the Tom’s(I acknowledge that they’re simpering pussies,

I don't like the Toms and if they open another bar, Two Simpering Pussies would be a great name for it.

[mytmo]

I loved the house that Beau and Stassi looked at.  I loved the character and wished I had $2 mill to buy that.  Hated the grass on the driveway though.  I spend way too much time killing grass in the cracks to appreciate that look.

I'm afraid though this show may have just played out.  Nothing compelling about the new crew to bring viewers back each week and the regulars create and believe their own hype.

Bye Chucklefucks.  Not sure I will miss you.  I would however watch a special "Where Are They Now" edition in a couple of years.

[Carolina Girl]

31 minutes ago, mytmo said:

I loved the house that Beau and Stassi looked at.  I loved the character and wished I had $2 mill to buy that.  Hated the grass on the driveway though.  I spend way too much time killing grass in the cracks to appreciate that look.

I'm afraid though this show may have just played out.  Nothing compelling about the new crew to bring viewers back each week and the regulars create and believe their own hype.

Bye Chucklefucks.  Not sure I will miss you.  I would however watch a special "Where Are They Now" edition in a couple of years.

Did they even BEGIN filming a new season before the shutdown?  If not, maybe this is a good time for Bravo to size up their older shows and make some serious decisions about continuing.  If they want to re-tool VPR for a Vegas setting with a new, younger and less-encumbered cast, that might prove interesting.  But I can't see tuning in for a Season in Suburbia with these guys.  

I think the only shows I never wander from are the two Million Dollar Listing shows - gotta love me some real estate porn.  

[FancyNancy]

17 hours ago, tvfanatic13 said:

The reunion is not for 2 weeks? Bummer. I just can’t quit this show. 
I can’t believe that they aired that huge fourth wall break. But I am so glad they did. 
I feel bad for Kristen. I am guessing that she won’t be back next season. But damn that girl has some legggggssssss. 
 

Yep. What was the 4th wall break? I must have missed it.

[gingerella]

Even though I bailed on this shitshow years ago, I've been COVID-watching (this bitch has taken away all my TV rules!) and I gotta agree with you all here, let this be THE End. But you know it wont be right? Because Liza doesn't have Real Ho's anymore, so she has to have something on tellie. And you can actually see Jaxass laying the groundwork for his next season's arc - I'm mentally ill! I'm handicapped! I have anger issues! I hate being married (for 4 weeks!)! - it was alllll soooo obvious that he's trying to go overboard to get his story line front and center next season. These chucklefucks annoy the hell out of me - getting paid good money to act like assholes for a few weeks a year? Fuck them all.

Jax is like the douchiest brofuck on the planet. So disgusting, that the ONLY reason I can fathom that BritBrit wants to be married to him is because it ties her to this shit show, and her Z-List fame. She's just as famewhorish as all of them, even more so because she makes excuses for that useless excuseless mess known as her husband.

Katie, Jesus H. Christ, look in a goddamned mirror and either dress for the body you have OR lose the chunk. For someone who makes a living on the more vacuous aspects of appearance, how can she not see how awful she looks on camera?!? I'm not petite and I know when I look terrible in something.

Stassi and Beau, eh, I don't care. She'll make his life a living hell, and he'll become a stay-at-home dad because it's easier than having a real job. Just.Dont.Care.

Scheana, soooo depressing and just plain old dumb.

This show needs to never come back again. Which means it totally will...

[ParadoxLost]

3 hours ago, FancyNancy said:

Yep. What was the 4th wall break? I must have missed it.

When Jax told LvP "this is my television show" and she started disabusing him of that notion at the TomTom party.

[HotSauceAndMoire]

On 5/20/2020 at 8:43 AM, LibertarianSlut said:

I couldn’t care less if Jax was cut from the show, but from an objective perspective, I think he is more attractive than either of the Toms or Brax.  Those four are not as masculine looking and the camera doesn’t love them. I think if the show is looking to bring in women who are 40+ to watch the show, Jax has—OMG, I can’t believe I am going to write this—sex appeal that the others don’t have.  Again, this is all upon first glance and not knowing his personality!  

Speaking as a 40+ woman, I find Jax utterly repulsive in all his masculine-looking hideousness. And that's just his physical impediment. All the others have been adequately addressed.

[HotSauceAndMoire]

This show's not going to last too much longer. I sincerely wonder how Jax and Brittany will support themselves after it's over. How do people like that make a living? I'm seriously asking.

[MVFrostsMyPie]

13 hours ago, Mazzy said:

 

 

On 5/19/2020 at 7:02 PM, Thumper said:

Yeah, I thought the same thing about the toothbrush argument.  Ewwww, don’t put your toothbrush in a drawer!  It needs to air out.

I keep my toothbrush in a drawer and think it's weird and gross to leave your toothbrush just chillin' out with the poop air in your bathroom. That's disgusting. You are literally washing your mouth with your own poo!! Cover up the toothbrush and get it out of the open air of the bathroom. So gross!

 

I keep my toothbrush out, but I also always close the toilet lid before flushing. And keep it closed until I gots to go. 

[albarino]

Because I"m bored, I googled VDP Rules news and there are several sites suggesting this franchise be refocused.  They don't like the new people and they don't like the old.  The ending music sounded like a finale to me.  Please, please, please, no Stassi marriage.  We really don't care.  Really.  YOU made us sit through the Jax/Brit crap (and Katie/Tom).  We've done our penance.  Enough.

I watch a lot of Bravo but I think I can be done with this show.  None of these folks are admirable and if this goes by the wayside, I'm good.  Stassi will be in People magazine for a couple of years and then she is a footnote in history until her divorce.  And not a good mention.  Same with the other completely entitled asses and their divorces.

[MVFrostsMyPie]

I mean, I'd be okay with another season if we get to watch Stassi crying and feeling sorry for herself that her Italian wedding dreams may be up in the air, and if they do occur, like at least half the guest list probably wouldn't bother flying out there, even if it is in October (heck, would production even bother traveling internationally just to film Princess Stassi and Boring Beau?) Or Lala not being able to milk the newlywed deal since her wedding's postponed (I'm assuming she's probably giving extra BJs to Randy to make sure he doesn't get cold feet about tying the knot).

Otherwise, if there is another season it won't be till at least 2021. I mean, is it even VPR if there is no Pride episode because there is no Pride this year? 

Edited May 22, 2020 by MVFrostsMyPie

[JessicaJones18]

On 5/20/2020 at 6:33 PM, MVFrostsMyPie said:

Which outfit are you referring to? All of them, right?

Seriously, Lala has been dressed this entire season like she’s backstage at a drag queen revue, while Rand looks like he rolled out of bed to give the dog a bath. 

[Thumper]

Stassi wedding in Italy?  Oh yes, because we all want to spend our money and vacation time going to a wedding.  (Realize Bravo probably paying and it is off due to Corona, but this attitude really annoys me.). It’s like saying 1) you don’t love me enough to come to my wedding, or 2) I don’t really want you to come to my wedding.  It’s not like they live ther or one of them is from there, either.

[Callaphera]

40 minutes ago, Thumper said:

Stassi wedding in Italy?  Oh yes, because we all want to spend our money and vacation time going to a wedding.  (Realize Bravo probably paying and it is off due to Corona, but this attitude really annoys me.). It’s like saying 1) you don’t love me enough to come to my wedding, or 2) I don’t really want you to come to my wedding.  It’s not like they live ther or one of them is from there, either.

Bravo doesn't pay for the weddings on the show. The network, the production companies, and the people getting married have all said that. But by televising the whole ordeal, Stassi would get steep discounts and/or freebies in exchange for the publicity of the vendors and locations, although I imagine it would be less for international vendors. That's why Jax and Brittany had a Hooters branded after-party at their wedding reception. They didn't have to pay for it (or if they did, it was a pittance) but Hooters figured that the advertising via the show and social media posts from the people attending was worth it. Same as the blow up about the Tito's vodka that people weren't supposed to pay for - Jax didn't pay for it, it was advertising. And that's why everyone scoffed when Jax was bleating about the $100K he put out for the wedding. I'm sure it cost $100K but he didn't pay that much. 

I'm fully expecting Stassi's wedding to have a Hidden Valley ranch dressing branded after-party. And for her to continually brag about how much her basic AF wedding is costing, knowing that she's only paying a fraction of that cost. 

[glowbug]

I don't think I can stomach another VPR wedding. I'm pretty sure Stassi and Beau chose to have a fall wedding because they wanted their wedding to be the season finale (which I find really pathetic) and the shenanigans leading up to it to be the entire season. Jax and Brittany's wedding wasn't the season finale because they had it so early in the summer. They were both too stupid to time it right. 

VPR usually films from the beginning of the summer into the fall. I doubt they will be able to film until late summer if at all given how strict the social distancing measures are in California, particularly because this show is unfortunately tied to the restaurant/bar industry of all things. It's also expected there is going to be resurgence of COVID-19 in the fall so it's likely places that have already opened up will have to increase social distancing again when that happens and travel will be restricted. Not a good thing if someone has a wedding planned, particularly in a harder hit area like Italy, which will surely be more cautious than other places given their experience before. 

If I were a network, I'd want to put off filming a reality show, which relies heavily on continuity, until at least late fall, if not 2021, to make sure that production won't get shut down in the middle of filming, and I don't think I'd want to gamble on international filming in the middle of an unpredictable pandemic either.  I think scripted shows lend themselves better to filming interruptions because they can just pick up where the left off whereas the lives of reality show casts, which are the storyline, continue to go on when production is shut down. Scripted shows may have shortened seasons due to shut downs, which can negatively affect storylines (see the writers' strike in 2007/2008) but it's easier to account for a significant time gap if it needs to be accounted for at all. 

[Marley]

The reason why Stassi was going to have her wedding in Italy is because Beau was born there and he has family there. Apparently it’s still happening which seems a bit stupid but who knows.

[Thumper]

2 hours ago, Marley said:

The reason why Stassi was going to have her wedding in Italy is because Beau was born there and he has family there. Apparently it’s still happening which seems a bit stupid but who knows.

Ah, okay — thanks.

[ParadoxLost]

19 hours ago, glowbug said:

If I were a network, I'd want to put off filming a reality show, which relies heavily on continuity, until at least late fall, if not 2021, to make sure that production won't get shut down in the middle of filming, and I don't think I'd want to gamble on international filming in the middle of an unpredictable pandemic either.  I think scripted shows lend themselves better to filming interruptions because they can just pick up where the left off whereas the lives of reality show casts, which are the storyline, continue to go on when production is shut down. 

I think the possibility of filming shutting down is a secondary issue with reality shows.  They can always do some abbreviated thing and then wrap it up wherever they have to with a zoom reunion.  The reunions are months after filming already and it doesn't make them any less of a shit show.

The bigger problem is social distancing.  A scripted show can write it in or not. If they don't then they can do some kind of disclaimer or media that they did social distance but used camera angels and other movie/tv magic to hide it.

Reality is supposed to be reality even though its not really.  How can they do a VdP Rules or a Real Housewives if they are social distancing.  The shows rely too much on bickering and fighting up close and personal.

The only shows that might work are the ones set in isolated locations.  Basically, test everyone and quarantine them someplace for the duration of filming and shows like Survivor would work.

Can you imagine what VdP Rules would be like if they dropped them on an island for twenty episodes, especially with Kristen unraveling just about every time she travels.  LvP can open a little island bar called the Thunderdome.

 

[FancyNancy]

On 5/21/2020 at 3:44 PM, ParadoxLost said:

When Jax told LvP "this is my television show" and she started disabusing him of that notion at the TomTom party.

Oh ok. 

[Mazzy]

On 5/21/2020 at 5:21 PM, HotSauceAndMoire said:

Speaking as a 40+ woman, I find Jax utterly repulsive in all his masculine-looking hideousness. And that's just his physical impediment. All the others have been adequately addressed.

Same, 40+, same, I have always found him utterly repugnant. And worse, not only is he unattractive, he's stupid. I hate stupid people.

 

On 5/21/2020 at 5:33 PM, HotSauceAndMoire said:

This show's not going to last too much longer. I sincerely wonder how Jax and Brittany will support themselves after it's over. How do people like that make a living? I'm seriously asking.

Disability? It's the southern way.
 

On 5/21/2020 at 5:40 PM, MVFrostsMyPie said:

I keep my toothbrush out, but I also always close the toilet lid before flushing. And keep it closed until I gots to go. 

Ew. Every time that water splashes infinitesimal droplets of water, so light that they float on air, rise up, and some make it out of that bowl and settle on all the things. Puke.

[MVFrostsMyPie]

2 hours ago, Mazzy said:

 

Ew. Every time that water splashes infinitesimal droplets of water, so light that they float on air, rise up, and some make it out of that bowl and settle on all the things. Puke.

How big of a splash are your dumps making?! My toothbrush is at least 5-6 feet away. I think I'll live. I think I've inhaled more fecal matter on public transit and walking to work in SF.

Also: 

"Even though the thought of a post-flush tornado raining bacteria all over your bathroom might make you want to stuff your toothbrush in the nearest bathroom drawer, that's actually not at all what the ADA recommends. The best way to store your toothbrush, according to another meta-analysis, is upright, in a toothbrush holder, uncovered so it can air-dry.

That means, ultimately, that the best way to keep the toilet particles off your toothbrush and where it belongs is to close the lid on your toilet each time you flush."

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/is-your-toothbrush-covered-in-poop-heres-how-to-thoroughly-clean-it/ 

Edited May 23, 2020 by MVFrostsMyPie

[MVFrostsMyPie]

10 hours ago, Marley said:

The reason why Stassi was going to have her wedding in Italy is because Beau was born there and he has family there. Apparently it’s still happening which seems a bit stupid but who knows.

Plus it beats Ver-sails, Kentucky. 

[SarahPrtr]

On 5/20/2020 at 11:22 AM, chenoa333 said:

James Kennedy's comment "my mom and I's relationship".

Who knew "I's" was a word? Or did "I's" not hear him correctly?

 

Yep, I have been griping about that for several seasons.  It was mostly Katie who used to say that.  She would say "Tom and I's relationship." and I had a rant in several of the posts on here saying "WTF is I's????!!!!!!!  It's MY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

On 5/20/2020 at 11:36 AM, LibertarianSlut said:

That cupping or whatever kind of shit that was that Tom got on his face and Ariana got on her thass was something I never need to see again.  At least they have the decency to blur out some of the naughty bits when they do bikini waxing.  

I was not a fan of Randall and Lala’s house in Bel-Air from the outside.  No greenery in sight.  Putting a toothbrush in a drawer is a huge breeding ground for bacteria; what is she talking about?  

Brittany’s half-plaid, half-denim shirt at Lala’s house was—to borrow a word from Sandoval—literally the ugliest thing I’ve ever seen.  

LS, I LIVE for your posts!!! They always make me laugh so much! 

 

I constantly hear people wanting separate space from their partners and not getting used to having their spouse's things everywhere, but I've always liked it.  My husband is into cricket, and he has a bat & ball signed by a famous Aussie cricket player and even though I never got into it, I liked seeing the memorabilia in the livingroom, because it's his stuff.

 

[SarahPrtr]

On 5/20/2020 at 12:29 PM, ParadoxLost said:

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't ask Kristen to come back.  This season made it clear that if she gets cut out by Katie and Stassi, no one is going to really include her in anything. They've picked a side.  And I think Katie and Stassi are a lot like LvP.  They are going to require a mea culpa and groveling to let her back in and if Kristen wouldn't kiss LvP's ass, I don't think she'll be begging Katie and Stassi to forgive her.

A lot of what Kristen did this season reminds me of the things she did back in season 3.

 

On 5/20/2020 at 12:35 PM, LibertarianSlut said:

I did kind of love Scheana and Karrah together.  I wish they would have cast Karrah instead of either Max or Brett for the show.  Since Max and Brett are basically the same person to me, casting them both seems redundant.  

Ariana pwned Jax during their conversation.  Good for her.  And yes Jax, it was “Brittany” who was so upset!  Is “Brittany” the name of one of your other personalities?  I know this makes me a bad person, and I don’t care, but I just finished re-watching last season, and Jax got this amazing post-dad’s death, engaged to Brittany changed man edit that he didn’t deserve, and I am living for his downfall. 

OMG, Jax is still talking about his wedding!!!  That’s all he has to hang his hat on.  Poor Jaxie.  He and his 36 year old BFF are “on a break.” 

Ah, so Lisa finally opines that she thinks she’s the one who made the show a success.  I humbly beg to differ.  She derails the show more than anyone else who has come before or since.  James and his drunken destructive rants were more palatable to me than Lisa.  At least James’s rants were real.  Everything Lisa brings to the table here is contrived.  

 

Actually, wanting bad things to happen to a mother-effing shitty person makes you normal!  I want shit to happen to Jax as well.  Too bad that he's going to spin it to make himself look like a victim.  I don't give a shit if his father died.  Why would anyone???

 

I would have loved Karrah-type of character more if it were a man who was in drag, dressed as Sheana.  I would have found that to be rather satisfying.

 

OH! And they can't POSSIBLY cancel the show without having Stassi's wedding!!!  She would be seeeeeething!!!!!  Even worse, if effing JAX got a wedding, and Stassi didn't, she would bury herself.

[Cheezwiz]

2 hours ago, SarahPrtr said:

OH! And they can't POSSIBLY cancel the show without having Stassi's wedding!!!  She would be seeeeeething!!!!!  Even worse, if effing JAX got a wedding, and Stassi didn't, she would bury herself.

No, the show will not end until they've subjected us to at least a year's worth of Stassi's bridezilla antics. There's no way she'd go for some low-key off camera wedding in the time of Covid. If you thought her birthdays were bad...

Jax will undoubtably be back pretending he has mental health issues, because he's hung around for this long so why not milk it a little longer? It was fun seeing Lisa hand him his ass in the finale, but she's also enabled him for the entire run of the show, so it didn't exactly ring true. 

I'm hoping James' attempt at sobriety is genuine. It was hard for me to root for him at all after seeing such vile, misogynistic behavior and language, but he seems to be responding to the positive feedback. Despite her not being the brightest bulb, I was surprised at how much I liked Raquel (or perhaps the edit she was given). I hope James improves his treatment of her, because it was looking abusive. I haven't watched for many seasons - could anyone give me a quick rundown on his family background? I know he initially got on the show as  a friend of the un-golden child Max. His Mom is also now in recovery from alcoholism? It sounded like she's American, not British? I understand he is also related to George Michael somehow? Is that on his Dad's side? His parents split up? What's his deal? When I was last watching the show years ago, he had started shagging & mooching off of Kristen, and I've missed everything in between.

After glancing through photos from prior seasons, it appears that Scheana has only gotten more ridiculous as time has worn on. She actually looked cute and semi-normal before she went all Ariana Grande. 

The new people suck and I don't care about any of them. Most of the old people suck too - especially Lala/Lauren from Utah. Pun intended.

 

[SarahPrtr]

3 hours ago, Cheezwiz said:

No, the show will not end until they've subjected us to at least a year's worth of Stassi's bridezilla antics. There's no way she'd go for some low-key off camera wedding in the time of Covid.  

My brain is weird, so when I read that, the thought in my head was "Love in the time of Corona", instead of cholera.

[Mazzy]

13 hours ago, MVFrostsMyPie said:

How big of a splash are your dumps making?! My toothbrush is at least 5-6 feet away. I think I'll live. I think I've inhaled more fecal matter on public transit and walking to work in SF.

Also: 

"Even though the thought of a post-flush tornado raining bacteria all over your bathroom might make you want to stuff your toothbrush in the nearest bathroom drawer, that's actually not at all what the ADA recommends. The best way to store your toothbrush, according to another meta-analysis, is upright, in a toothbrush holder, uncovered so it can air-dry.

That means, ultimately, that the best way to keep the toilet particles off your toothbrush and where it belongs is to close the lid on your toilet each time you flush."

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/is-your-toothbrush-covered-in-poop-heres-how-to-thoroughly-clean-it/ 

I like cnet for tech stuff but I will stick with science for how light water droplets are and how they suspend in air and eventually fall.

Also, I mean, it's nothing to get mad over. If you like to use your toothbrush out in the open then do so. It's like you're mad at me for your poop mist. LOL

 

Edited May 23, 2020 by Mazzy

[Mazzy]

I am binge-ing the After Show clips on Youtube and watching these, I can't wait for the reunion show. It didn't feel like much happened this year, AND like many of you I wasn't a fan of the new people during the season, but now I actually like some of them. And one I particularly hated was that new brunette girl who is super confident in herself and young and basically takes a constant stance of "look at these boys falling all over me" and to the women she's like "okay old person". lol But now, those same personality traits, I kind of love about her because I think she puts some situations/people in their place - not to their faces but during this after show - so I think she will be a real asset at the reunion to cut through some BS.

She calls out Lala about being up in James' business and ragging on Raquel ("what is she 30, and engaged? Like why does she even care...?"). She calls Stassi and Katie hypocrits for ragging on Raquel about her puppy party. I think her presence boosts Raquel's confidence, and although I also thought Raquel was annoying and an airhead, I like her more now too.

So I feel like the feisty young one might cause the old crowd to be called out and then be able to make them feel 3 inches tall when she responds with some condescending "aren't you like 30?" LOLOL (and I'm over 40, but I work in a University and younger people DEFINITELY throw that shade often because there is really nothing we can say back - "well... you're young!" hee hee okay. lol)

Edited May 23, 2020 by Mazzy

[Cheezwiz]

25 minutes ago, Mazzy said:

I work in a University and younger people DEFINITELY throw that shade often because there is really nothing we can say back - "well... you're young!" hee hee okay. lol

I work in an educational setting with young people too - if anyone comes at me with that line, I respond with "yeah, I'm old, and you will be one day too and it will happen far, far faster than you think". They might not think much of  it in the moment, but they will later on, 'cause it's true!

[Diane Mars]

On 5/21/2020 at 11:33 PM, HotSauceAndMoire said:

This show's not going to last too much longer. I sincerely wonder how Jax and Brittany will support themselves after it's over. How do people like that make a living? I'm seriously asking.

mowing the lawn ?

[Ubiquitous]

19 hours ago, Mazzy said:

Ew. Every time that water splashes infinitesimal droplets of water, so light that they float on air, rise up, and some make it out of that bowl and settle on all the things. Puke.

Don't people rinse their toothbrushes before they use them? Of course, I'm not sure why LaLa was being so picky about what she puts in her mouth.

[albarino]

1 hour ago, Ubiquitous said:

Of course, I'm not sure why LaLa was being so picky about what she puts in her mouth.

^^^So much this.  YOU won the internet today.

[geauxaway]

I’m still wondering why no one is flipping out about Jax claiming he is handicapped.  FUCK THAT 

Also.  I’ve never in 42 years thought about where my tooth brush goes to sleep.  FFS.  I finally got myself a fancy one last year.  It’s on a charger next to my sink.  My toilet is in like a little toilet closet many steps away.  Good GAWD.  Is it really that big of a deal????  I can’t sleep tonight knowing I may have pooped in the same room as my toothbrush.  I mean unless y’all hold your breath until your a mile away you are breathing in your poop air???  Right???  🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️   It’s OK.  We will live 

Edited May 24, 2020 by geauxaway

[SarahPrtr]

Stupid, stupid dumbass Brittany saying "I'm married to him, so y'all gotta have respect for him." Biiiitch, NO.  That's not how respect works, and if anything, that lowers the level of respect people had for YOU.  Nobody needs to respect your POS husband, because umm... he's a POS!!!

[geauxaway]

23 minutes ago, SarahPrtr said:

Stupid, stupid dumbass Brittany saying "I'm married to him, so y'all gotta have respect for him." Biiiitch, NO.  That's not how respect works, and if anything, that lowers the level of respect people had for YOU.  Nobody needs to respect your POS husband, because umm... he's a POS!!!

That right there.  I think Katie even gave her a “oh ok sure uh huh” look when she spouted that nonsense in her hyuck hyuck shaky voice. Even she (Brittany) knows it’s a bunch of bull shit.  The whole episode was her playing damage control for her coked up husband.  What a sad and pathetic life for hers.  Hope it’s worth that paycheck, girl. 

[LibertarianSlut]

22 hours ago, Cheezwiz said:

hope James improves his treatment of her, because it was looking abusive. I haven't watched for many seasons - could anyone give me a quick rundown on his family background? I know he initially got on the show as  a friend of the un-golden child Max. His Mom is also now in recovery from alcoholism? It sounded like she's American, not British? I understand he is also related to George Michael somehow? Is that on his Dad's side? His parents split up? What's his deal? When I was last watching the show years ago, he had started shagging & mooching off of Kristen, and I've missed everything in between.

You have most of it down already.  I don’t know why James’s mom is American.  She was a model, so maybe that’s how she met his dad.  I know James grew up in the UK.  James’s dad was on George Michael’s payroll at one time, as a manager, I think, and James seems to think of him like a godfather.  His parents split up last season (season 7).  We never really got a good grasp as to why.  I can read between the lines and assume it’s because his father was a an alcoholic and his mom was an alcoholic bitch.  

Last season, the deal was that James was supporting his entire family—his parents and teenaged brothers.  Jacqueline would cry to Lisa that Lisa was James’s mother figure and she’d ask for his job back, and then she asked her for a job for her other son, and he seemed to work out just fine (and James was crying).  When James’s brother graduated from high school, the whole family + Raquel went out to an expensive dinner, and James picked up the check, and it felt very expected, even though his dad, at the very least, was drinking, but he didn’t even make a gesture to get the tip or something.  So James, who is trying to get sober his damned self, had to subsidize his father’s alcohol consumption.  Wonderful.  James also gave his brother a check for $5,000 at that dinner.  

After it was revealed that James was giving his family hundreds of dollars like every few days, James, fresh off a therapy session, called his mom and said he had two boundaries:  she can’t talk about “dad” anymore (apparently Jacqueline was called James to complain to him about his own father) and he needed to know where his money was going. 

That is when Jacqueline flipped out on James in front of Raquel (she also tried to do it in front of Tom and Ariana, but they ducked out) that she spent all kinds of money on him his whole life and he owed her to pay it back now.  That’s where the now-infamous “you took your first steps at fucking Tiffany’s” line came from.  Another part of her guilt trip was to report to anyone who would listen—James or Lisa—about her sobriety and how many days she had.  It was all so disturbing. 

I dunno, writing it out like that doesn’t make it seem so bad, but it was ugly, to me.  James was really struggling.  He had no steady job outside of the show, no one wanted to be his friend at that point, and when it turned out his parents had been shaking him down (and apparently belittling each other to him), it took such a nasty turn.  

What was also nasty was that, when this came up at the reunion, everyone attacked James, wondering why they got no camera time for helping out their families (as if this is James’s problem how their stories got edited) and Katie even went at some point, all sarcastically, “so your parents got divorced.  Aw!”  It was really gross.  

This is why I’ve been rooting for James this season.  In addition to having to face his own substance abuse demons at 26, he was saddled with awful parents (his brothers seem fine though).  That is why, as soon as I saw Jacqueline back at James’s home with her damned shoes on the couch, I was just filled with utter disgust.  I didn’t want to hear about her cancer or how long she’s been sober.  I just never want to see her again in any capacity, because she is an awful, completely selfish person for placing James in the middle like that and getting Exorcist-ugly as soon as she thought she might be losing her meal ticket or if her son asserted his needs not to hear his parents disrespect each other.  

Even Kristen said at the last reunion that she feels horrible for James having the shitty parents that he does, and Kristen has not had a sympathetic word for James since they’ve broken up.  It all makes me sad.  I hope James can extricate himself and move on from his parents.  They’re beyond redemption at this point IMO.  At the very least, let them both be sober for five years and hand him a giant check that equals all the money he was guilted into giving them, plus interest, and we can see where it would go from there.  Knowing James’s family situation not only explains to me why he is so fucked up, it makes me wonder how he is not more fucked up.