S04.E10: Cuts Both Ways

[Zevious Zoquis]

Just watching the scene with David and the old guy behind the green door.  David shows the guy his picture of Lana (and man he's worn that pic out!) and says she's "been my girl for 7 years."  "My girl."  What a pathetic delusional fool.  

[Lily247]

4 hours ago, sasha206 said:

I did enjoy watching Avery's embarrassment.

Does Ash have any degrees?  Any training in counseling?  Of is he just someone relatively attractive that has managed to fool women that he is some sort of relationship coach and they fall in love with his bullshit and pay him just so they can talk to him?

I am curious if Ash serves as that friend you call who will give you personalized no BS advice when you need guy help. The one who doesnt sugarcoat things, who will tell you that yes, you should wear a different outfit for tonights date, you need to do some pilates planks, dont go to his home for abdate eciphers his text messages for you, etc. 

[lilysmom]

12 hours ago, MoonMountain said:

YES!! When Ash was giving his "seminar," my husband said, "Wait...I've heard this before!" and found this video. He even used the same example of going fishing as this guy used. He didn't even try to put any of that in his own words. We figured Ash was getting all flustered because he couldn't remember the lines he memorized. LOL

I agree he was flustered and maybe that was why he had to leave to pull up the video on his phone to refresh his memory and try to "undig" the hole he had gotten into. But THEN, Avery followed him out into the hallway and he couldn't. And since the ladies were there for dating advice and not a comedy performance, it wouldn't have worked anyway.

[silverspoons]

I was so upset watching Rose say goodbye to Prince. I was yelling is there  kids club at the hotel. I looked it up and yes there is. Another strike against Ed. Why could he not have taken Prince and had him in the kids club? It offers all day activities and babysitting at night. It was nice to see how happy Rose was to go on the plane , be in the ocean, be at the hotel, it made her so happy, why not share that with Prince. Prince could have learned how to swim, surf, craft projects, watch movies, get great food, just so much fun stuff he probably rarely or never would get to do.  If he wanted to be any sort of dad to Prince he would have brought him and enrolled him in the kids club. 

[magemaud]

44 minutes ago, Zevious Zoquis said:

Just watching the scene with David and the old guy behind the green door.  David shows the guy his picture of Lana (and man he's worn that pic out!) and says she's "been my girl for 7 years."  "My girl."  What a pathetic delusional fool.

While Anatoly looks on, completely bewildered at what this idiot is saying to him in English. 

[Granny58]

3 hours ago, Spike said:

It’s that BS some spew about how the 1950s were so great.  Yeah If you were a straight white male.  Many women were dissatisfied and their husbands and their doctors got them on pills to make them docile.

true, for some.  But not only SWM liked it.  My mom was delighted to be home with children and caring for the house...and we were POOR.   I know you said "many women," not all.  Just wanted to say there are people who like that (myself included). 

On 4/23/2020 at 12:03 AM, Meowwww said:

So I’m not sure where you all are watching this.  Is it a “first look”? 
 

Re Rose and the ulcer.  It may be her teeth.  Just because they look ok on tv doesn’t mean she has a bad one.  One bad tooth can smell really bad.  I think Ed is a weird germophobe who is extra sensitive to smells.  
I am extra sensitive to smells.  The smell of one unwashed human in Walmart can send me gagging out the door.  But I think Ed is very extra in his ideas, and didn’t do any research into real life in the Philippines.  

by boss had normal looking teeth but he never flossed and it was rancid!

[Granny58]

On 4/23/2020 at 10:52 PM, gavinmac said:

I disagree. There's nothing classy about Annie. They had their joint bachelor/bachelorette party at a hooker bar complex in the notoriously seedy city of Pattaya, where she seemed overly comfortable. She refers to sex with him as "boom boom" which may sounds cute to an American audience but not if you've been to strip clubs in Thailand and had a dozen women a night come up to you saying "You boom boom me? 3000 baht." 

Normal Thai women don't call sex "boom boom." Everything about Annie screams "low class hooker" to me and I suspect to anyone who is familiar with Thailand.

Thank you.  Whenever I catch glimpses of "Pillow Talk" I am struck by how vulgar she has become.  

[Pondlass1]

Ed’s not interested in Prince, nor will he ever be.  I don’t even think he’s all that interested in Rose since she’s not his perfect queen any more. Methinks he’s going to figure a way out soon.

I’m not sure why BGL does absolute zero to improve her looks. She must have an ego the size of a house. And on top of that she’s bossy and uppity and no fun at all. And it’s not going to change if and when Usman is brought to the U.S. Hope he lives to see the green card arrive in the mail. He deserves it.

But at least their segments are amusing. The rest of it is staged and/or frustrating.  That amateurish ‘seminar’ with 7 participants for instance. I fast forward through the lesbians. The cat fishing idiots are just aggravating. The twins are sad. 

Although I must admit I did perk up for the creepy Russian camping trip. What woman goes into the backwoods with two men she hardly knows, one of which has just admitted to being an ex-con. It’s like the plot of any Netflix horror movie. Thank goodness for the camera crew.

 

[Granny58]

On 4/25/2020 at 1:13 PM, magemaud said:

You mentioning that jogged my memory. Maybe he originally brought the oral care items with Prince in mind (he called the toothbrush "cute" and it looked like one of those battery powered kids toothbrushes) then when he met Rose he decided that she needed them? But no matter if he brought it for himself or Rose, who drags along a whole litre of mouthwash on a trip? 

We haven't seen him giving Prince any of the gifts he brought for him or nuking the microwave popcorn, but I guess Ed did use one of the condoms. 

 

Well, you can't fly with that size mouthwash so he definitely bought it there.  

[blubld43]

I'm rewatching the scene where Usmans mom gives her okay- is BGL holding a sheet over her head?  She looks sloppy and awful, my lord.  With all the beautiful market fabrics available, she goes to his mother semi-covered with a sheet.

Not one of these couples is remotely likable or real.

Edited April 27, 2020 by blubld43

[A-Lo]

On 4/22/2020 at 8:49 AM, Zevious Zoquis said:

Nothing says true love like talking to her likes she's 8 while you hand her the sexy underwear you bought for her...

Seriously!  Like she's never seen a bathing suit before and doesn't know which part to wear where?  So insulting.

[StatisticalOutlier]

6 hours ago, poeticlicensed said:

I'm not sure what gave her the idea that if she gave herself ginormous implants that go from waist to neck that men would think she is more attractive.

I'm worried about it from a practical standpoint.  When she hits menopause, where is her menopot even gonna go?  Then again, if it manages to wedge itself in there somehow, it will probably force her boobs up, like a lift but without surgery, which would seem like a win, except she's the last person who needs higher boobs.

[Granny58]

2 hours ago, AZChristian said:

I'd give him a 7 if he didn't have those weird eyes.  As is, I'd give him a 5.

his stupid pants drop him to a 2

[Granny58]

27 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

I'm worried about it from a practical standpoint.  When she hits menopause, where is her menopot even gonna go?  Then again, if it manages to wedge itself in there somehow, it will probably force her boobs up, like a lift but without surgery, which would seem like a win, except she's the last person who needs higher boobs.

Menopot?  Is that what I should be calling my belly?  Hey, as long as there is a medical term for it I'm good!

[Spike]

1 hour ago, Granny58 said:

true, for some.  But not only SWM liked it.  My mom was delighted to be home with children and caring for the house...and we were POOR.   I know you said "many women," not all.  Just wanted to say there are people who like that (myself included). 

by boss had normal looking teeth but he never flossed and it was rancid!

Yes even now being a stay at home parent is a totally valid choice.

[CloseThisAccount]

On 4/24/2020 at 7:30 PM, iwasish said:

 

Neither Rose nor Ed is a prize, but using the entItlement to love  theory,  isn’t Ed equally entitled to love. His physical ailments have most likely attributed to his quirks and idiosyncrasies. If we are to give Rose leeway to allow her to use her sex to get access to a “better” life via Ed’s horniness,  why can’t Ed be allowed the same?

Ed is not entitled to love because he is racist, misogynist, classist, cruel, selfish, dishonest, and completely uncaring about another human being.  (Sorry if someone already said this. Ed gets me so furious I couldn't wait to read through the entire thread to reply)

[Kid]

1 hour ago, silverspoons said:

I was so upset watching Rose say goodbye to Prince. I was yelling is there  kids club at the hotel. I looked it up and yes there is. Another strike against Ed. Why could he not have taken Prince and had him in the kids club? It offers all day activities and babysitting at night. It was nice to see how happy Rose was to go on the plane , be in the ocean, be at the hotel, it made her so happy, why not share that with Prince. Prince could have learned how to swim, surf, craft projects, watch movies, get great food, just so much fun stuff he probably rarely or never would get to do.  If he wanted to be any sort of dad to Prince he would have brought him and enrolled him in the kids club. 

He doesn’t care about Prince.  Or her.

[Kyanight]

2 hours ago, Spike said:

When I watched it on the app last night it was the very first scene of the three hour episode.  Before the scene where Ed and Rose leave her family home.

They also showed it on the Pillow Talk episode afterwards.

[CloseThisAccount]

19 hours ago, Lady Iris said:

I was pleasantly surprised that Darcy didn’t take Tom’s note. I was really happy for her she didn’t cave. 

I bet as soon as the cameras left she ran to the trash with a roll of tape.  The rest of her night was piecing, weeping, & taping.

[Kyanight]

1 minute ago, TakeAPinotGrigio said:

I bet as soon as the cameras left she ran to the trash with a roll of tape.  The rest of her night was piecing, weeping, & taping.

And drinking copious amounts of alcohol.  And hiccuping.  And ranting and raving.

[CaliCat]

On 4/22/2020 at 1:15 AM, magemaud said:

It was kind of chilling when David grimly said, “Whether she likes it or not, she’s going to see me tonight.” 

When you point it out it does sound chilling, but it’s hard for me to get bothered by it because 

1) Lana doesn’t exist and

2) I suspect that David is just acting and his whole story line is fake. I can’t believe anyone is really that gullible. 

If only all real stalkers could be so obsessed with non-existent people it would be a better world. 

Edited April 27, 2020 by CaliCat
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[Rt66vintage]

On 4/23/2020 at 12:04 AM, mamadrama said:

The First Look is already up. Rose specifically explains that it's a stomach ulcer causing the halitosis, not her teeth.

It probably wouldn't cost Big Egg too much for a teeth cleaning for Rose. I know plaque can cause bad breath, as will a diet heavy in garlic and other spicy seasonings. 

3 hours ago, AZChristian said:

I'd give him a 7 if he didn't have those weird eyes.  As is, I'd give him a 5.

A 5 is too generous, lol. He's about as ugly as Azan (a 2), add his flat ass in jeggings and the smarmy platitudes, I just can't see what a pretty woman like Avery sees in him. Maybe it's because he's the opposite of my blondish, matter-of-fact type. Avery will have to support him, and she doesn't trust him so that's a huge turn-off. 

3 hours ago, RealReality said:

That has to be an element of it because that whole comment about looking for "lucrative" women was weird to me.  

If you're selling a program and it's going to work than it shouldn't be out of the financial means of a normal woman.  But if you're looking for marks with an unlimited income who will pay you to talk to them and hand out with them.....it makes more sense to search out women with means to pay for that endlessly. 

Are you suggesting he's a gigolo? That's what I think is going on. He's hired by traveling working women or others who have no time for courtship. And I would include men in his clientele. The women at his program were all good looking, probably not in need of any coaching. 

IMO Darcey looked uncomfortably fat in this episode, and I need to lose 10 pounds myself. She's reality TV gold, never change, girl. Interesting that the twins aim for the same look. I wondered what would Stacy look like if she had had no cosmetic surgery & Darcey looked like she does now. And yes, I have cabin fever. 

[StatisticalOutlier]

21 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

3) I suspect that David is just acting and his whole story line is fake. I can’t believe anyone is really that gullible.

I think both he and Yolanda are acting, for that same reason.

[CloseThisAccount]

One more thing to add to my Ed hatred:  Before he & Rose left Rose's home skeevy Ed hugged Prince goodbye & said, "Maria's gonna take good care of you."  Shut the f up, Ed.  Prince knows who Maria is & what he can expect from her. It's you who's the scary, creepy, unpredictable stranger covered in mayo.  He just assumes he's in charge of every situation bc he's got more money, more whiteness, & more American-ness than them.  I'm not sure if I've mentioned this & I can be quite shy about expressing myself, but I despise motherf'ing Ed.

[RealReality]

20 minutes ago, Rt66vintage said:

It probably wouldn't cost Big Egg too much for a teeth cleaning for Rose. I know plaque can cause bad breath, as will a diet heavy in garlic and other spicy seasonings. 

A 5 is too generous, lol. He's about as ugly as Azan (a 2), add his flat ass in jeggings and the smarmy platitudes, I just can't see what a pretty woman like Avery sees in him. Maybe it's because he's the opposite of my blondish, matter-of-fact type. Avery will have to support him, and she doesn't trust him so that's a huge turn-off. 

Are you suggesting he's a gigolo? That's what I think is going on. He's hired by traveling working women or others who have no time for courtship. And I would include men in his clientele. The women at his program were all good looking, probably not in need of any coaching. 

IMO Darcey looked uncomfortably fat in this episode, and I need to lose 10 pounds myself. She's reality TV gold, never change, girl. Interesting that the twins aim for the same look. I wondered what would Stacy look like if she had had no cosmetic surgery & Darcey looked like she does now. And yes, I have cabin fever. 

I want to say gigalo, but how in the world would he maintain that while being in a serious committed relationship with Avery? 

I ALSO could see, as a previous poster suggested, that be is like a literal "escort" or "walker" (and yes, I also watched the law and order) where be just talks to lonely women and accompanies them places to be their arm candy and superficial conversation.  He seems like the type who can say all the right things.  Unless he is giving a seminar.  

52 minutes ago, Kyanight said:

And drinking copious amounts of alcohol.  And hiccuping.  And ranting and raving.

Sadly, I could see Darcy doing this off camera.  Complete with the second bottle of wine she is guzzling as she gets to work with her scotch tape.  

[RealReality]

1 hour ago, Granny58 said:

his stupid pants drop him to a 2

So, is ed in the negative?  What's the scale here?  Are we working in decimals?  Because I don't know, ash is confusing, but only 2 away from Ed?

[Takitaki]

2 hours ago, Granny58 said:

Well, you can't fly with that size mouthwash so he definitely bought it there.  

You can, if it's in your checked bag. 

[Kyanight]

3 minutes ago, Takitaki said:

You can, if it's in your checked bag. 

I don't know.....I could be wrong but I thought that the liquid has to be in small bottles and the bottles have to be in plastic bags.  The big bottle of mouth wash might be too much liquid to fly with.  (They consider anything could be an incendiary device and blow up the plane.)  We wanted to bring some nice Scotch back with us from Scotland and they made us mail it back to the U.S.

[RealReality]

5 minutes ago, Kyanight said:

I don't know.....I could be wrong but I thought that the liquid has to be in small bottles and the bottles have to be in plastic bags.  The big bottle of mouth wash might be too much liquid to fly with.  (They consider anything could be an incendiary device and blow up the plane.)  We wanted to bring some nice Scotch back with us from Scotland and they made us mail it back to the U.S.

That applies to carry ons.  And, fun fact you can carry a larger bottle of liquid in your carry on.....as long as you buy it in the airport after security screening.  

Edited April 27, 2020 by RealReality

[Kyanight]

2 minutes ago, RealReality said:

That applies to carry ons.

OH YEAH!!!  We didn't check any luggage.  Duh.

Thanks!! 😄

Edited April 27, 2020 by Kyanight

[Squee Bastard]

8 hours ago, sasha206 said:

I did enjoy watching Avery's embarrassment.

Does Ash have any degrees?  Any training in counseling?  Of is he just someone relatively attractive that has managed to fool women that he is some sort of relationship coach and they fall in love with his bullshit and pay him just so they can talk to him?

Bingo! You just nailed what Ash-hole is all about.

[RealReality]

17 minutes ago, RealReality said:

That applies to carry ons.  And, fun fact you can carry a larger bottle of liquid in your carry on.....as long as you buy it in the airport after security screening.  

Actually this might not be true.  

[Spike]

54 minutes ago, RealReality said:

I want to say gigalo, but how in the world would he maintain that while being in a serious committed relationship with Avery? 

I ALSO could see, as a previous poster suggested, that be is like a literal "escort" or "walker" (and yes, I also watched the law and order) where be just talks to lonely women and accompanies them places to be their arm candy and superficial conversation.  He seems like the type who can say all the right things.  Unless he is giving a seminar.  

Sadly, I could see Darcy doing this off camera.  Complete with the second bottle of wine she is guzzling as she gets to work with her scotch tape.  

They have professional cuddlers who spoon you for an hour.  Maybe he can do that,  And if he is the big spoon the bonus is you don't see the perpetually startled emoji eyes.

[ALittleShelfish]

6 hours ago, Spike said:

Wasn’t there some stupid book about men being from Mars and women being from Venus that was chock full of gender stereotypes and all the Oprah types swallowed whole?  And you can read a column about love languages in like two minutes.

It looks like her car’s airbag deployed and she can’t figure out how to remove it.

Yeahhhh "The Rules"!  I remember that came out when I was just out of college and my friends and I sat around and read that book, OUT LOUD, with drinks, and we just HOWLED at how insane it was.  I can see Ash using it as a reference guide, yep.  

Anyone else notice Big Ed's backpack had two patches of HIS OWN FACE on it?  How full of himself is this guy?  Aside from "full enough to fill out his neck area".  

David had such tunnel vision, driving down the Ukranian highways lined with red flags he must have assumed they were Ukranian flags, he wouldn't know a red flag if one came up and introduced itself as "Hi, My name is Red Flag, but you can call me Lana."  That dude is gonna get suckered for another 100k as soon as he lands back in the US and opens his laptop to a message from Lana.  And I am HERE for it.

[Spike]

I can't recommend Too Hot to Handle (zzzzz) but it is kinda funny the all-knowing cyber air freshener/traffic cone is named Lana.

[Mrs. Hanson]

2 hours ago, Spike said:

Yes even now being a stay at home parent is a totally valid choice.

I was a stay at home when my kids were little (born 1997 and 1999) although I worked part time in the evenings at a brokerage firm and I LOVED EVERY MINUTE OF IT!  It is the best!  You are with your kids all day!!! 

 

46 minutes ago, Kyanight said:

The big bottle of mouth wash might be too much liquid to fly with.  (They consider anything could be an incendiary device and blow up the plane.) 

I wish the already drunk and high yet still drinking people next to me a few years ago knew that.  

 

3 hours ago, Pondlass1 said:

Ed’s not interested in Prince, nor will he ever be.  I don’t even think he’s all that interested in Rose since she’s not his perfect queen any more. Methinks he’s going to figure a way out soon.

Yes to all of this.  He needs an exit strategy....quick!

[mamadrama]

5 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Has anyone else notice that flat affectation in their speech all of them have?  If Yolanda was my mother I would be a bit more emotive (is that a word?) with my pleas of trying to get her to see how Weeyumms does not exist, her two kids seem like they are bored to tears all the time.  Yolanda thinks a photo search will help her get in touch with Weeyumms?  

I think it's because they're faking it. This is one of those storylines where I think the REAL story was wrapped up in a day or two, but in TV Land they're stretching it out for production purposes. IMO everything we're seeing is just being recreated for the camera, and they're not the actors they think they are.

[Wollstonecraft]

1 hour ago, TakeAPinotGrigio said:

One more thing to add to my Ed hatred:  Before he & Rose left Rose's home skeevy Ed hugged Prince goodbye & said, "Maria's gonna take good care of you."  Shut the f up, Ed.  Prince knows who Maria is & what he can expect from her. It's you who's the scary, creepy, unpredictable stranger covered in mayo.  He just assumes he's in charge of every situation bc he's got more money, more whiteness, & more American-ness than them.  I'm not sure if I've mentioned this & I can be quite shy about expressing myself, but I despise motherf'ing Ed.

I find it remarkable that a toad-man could be so damn uppity.  

[mamadrama]

6 hours ago, blubld43 said:

I can't get over what Darcy and Stacey have done to themselves: neither of them look as though they can speak without great effort.  And why does Darcy walk around inside her own house dressed like that, as if any minute Mr. Right could show up with a ring.  

They don't look sexy, or attractive, or younger, IMO. They look like human real doll versions of themselves.

Since the ladies were already miked, I kind of assumed that Darce/Stace were dressed like that because Sharp was there filming. They may have told Darcey that they needed to do another talking head, but didn't mention that Tom was coming. 

[mamadrama]

5 hours ago, AZChristian said:

I'd give him a 7 if he didn't have those weird eyes.  As is, I'd give him a 5.

I'd give him a 7, but the weird eyes drop him to a 5 and the saggy diaper ass lowers him to a 3 for me. 

It's not even that his eyes always make him look surprised- he makes the creepiest expressions with them. The way he will sharply inhale, open them even wider, and then scans the room with his lips pursed is bizarre. I paused the screen during his "seminar" and my husband walked into the room and yelped, "Jesus Christ, what IS that?!"

[blubld43]

36 minutes ago, ALittleShelfish said:

David had such tunnel vision, driving down the Ukranian highways lined with red flags he must have assumed they were Ukranian flags, he wouldn't know a red flag if one came up and introduced itself as "Hi, My name is Red Flag, but you can call me Lana."  That dude is gonna get suckered for another 100k as soon as he lands back in the US and opens his laptop to a message from Lana.  And I am HERE for it.

He's coming off as desperate even for crumbs:  I predict the first time "Lana" invites him to chat, he'll be giddily relieved again, anything to keep the illusion.

[Granny58]

1 hour ago, RealReality said:

So, is ed in the negative?  What's the scale here?  Are we working in decimals?  Because I don't know, ash is confusing, but only 2 away from Ed?

LOL.  Yes, Ed owes points.  

[Mrs. Hanson]

19 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

The way Tom talked to Darcey at "coffee" was horrible. She blocked him so he decided to go to her house. HELLO. She clearly does not want to see your face. And then he again got upset that she wouldn't do/act the way he thought she should. I can't even imagine going to someone's house that has blocked me on other modes of communication, and then be surprised that they didn't want to see me when I showed up at their house. I would have called the police, to be honest. He seems like a total psycho. Good to get it on record.

And STILL left it on her car!!!  Darcy, I really really wanted you to take the note, go to the garbage can, rip it up and throw it away in front of him.  

[Granny58]

2 hours ago, Rt66vintage said:

It probably wouldn't cost Big Egg too much for a teeth cleaning for Rose. I know plaque can cause bad breath, as will a diet heavy in garlic and other spicy seasonings. 

A 5 is too generous, lol. He's about as ugly as Azan (a 2), add his flat ass in jeggings and the smarmy platitudes, I just can't see what a pretty woman like Avery sees in him. Maybe it's because he's the opposite of my blondish, matter-of-fact type. Avery will have to support him, and she doesn't trust him so that's a huge turn-off. 

Are you suggesting he's a gigolo? That's what I think is going on. He's hired by traveling working women or others who have no time for courtship. And I would include men in his clientele. The women at his program were all good looking, probably not in need of any coaching. 

IMO Darcey looked uncomfortably fat in this episode, and I need to lose 10 pounds myself. She's reality TV gold, never change, girl. Interesting that the twins aim for the same look. I wondered what would Stacy look like if she had had no cosmetic surgery & Darcey looked like she does now. And yes, I have cabin fever. 

sometime, years ago perhaps, on this site Darcy's and her sister's photos of when they were in their very early 20s was posted (they had been in some TV show).  They were ADORABLE!!!!  If they had aged naturally they would still probably be attractive.  Now they are caricatures. 

[MajorNelson]

5 hours ago, RealReality said:

90 day fam - do any of you have a clip of the David/Lana meeting at the door?  I cannot find it even though I scrolled through the show on the TLC app.  

Many thanks in advance. 

I'm not sure of your access, but it is in the first 5 minutes of E10 at tlc.com (have to sign in to cable service, whatever).

[Mrs. Hanson]

17 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

I'd give him a 7, but the weird eyes drop him to a 5 and the saggy diaper ass lowers him to a 3 for me. 

It's not even that his eyes always make him look surprised- he makes the creepiest expressions with them. The way he will sharply inhale, open them even wider, and then scans the room with his lips pursed is bizarre. I paused the screen during his "seminar" and my husband walked into the room and yelped, "Jesus Christ, what IS that?!"

When it was revealed that he plagiarized another person's work....he dropped to a zero for me.

[Mrs. Hanson]

On 4/25/2020 at 7:12 PM, Neurochick said:

You give someone lingerie when you're in a real relationship. 

Or you can be like me and respectfully ask that you never give me lingerie, bras, underwear or anything in that neighborhood.  

[RealReality]

6 minutes ago, MajorNelson said:

I'm not sure of your access, but it is in the first 5 minutes of E10 at tlc.com (have to sign in to cable service, whatever).

Thanks, I have the TLC app through Amazon fire stick, but I think I have to wade through the three hour full episode.  

[RealReality]

1 minute ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Or you can be like me and respectfully ask that you never give me lingerie, bras, underwear or anything in that neighborhood.  

Ive never had a man buy me lingerie.  I don't know that I'd be offended per se, but I might find it a little weird.  Every woman has her own idea of what makes her look sexy or the type of sexy that she wants to put out there.  I also know what looks best on me and what I feel sexy in.  

To me, to the degree that lingerie is for a man, then I'll just go the extra mile and buy it and wear it for him.  

But then again, I'm not sure if lingerie really works if the woman doesn't feel sexy in it.  But I'm not a man, men have box brains and women should cook dinner. 

[Spike]

2 minutes ago, RealReality said:

Ive never had a man buy me lingerie.  I don't know that I'd be offended per se, but I might find it a little weird.  Every woman has her own idea of what makes her look sexy or the type of sexy that she wants to put out there.  I also know what looks best on me and what I feel sexy in.  

To me, to the degree that lingerie is for a man, then I'll just go the extra mile and buy it and wear it for him.  

But then again, I'm not sure if lingerie really works if the woman doesn't feel sexy in it.  But I'm not a man, men have box brains and women should cook dinner. 

Doesn’t the red-blooded male just want to rip the lingerie off?